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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/htc-edge-could-be-the-first-quad-core-phone-2011117/
This would be cool, pure rumors though. I'm already solid on getting the Rezound anyways, but, anyone with credible knowledge know exactly how a quad core would really help a phone? And tablets?
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For what I know, no it won't do anything. Rezound on release day for me
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For what I know, no it won't do anything. Rezound on release day for me
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That's what I figured. And unfortunately, Rezound a month after release date for me
im really torn between rezound and galaxy nexus. I would probably root my rezound asap anyways. same with the galaxy nexus. I guess it comes down to the 1.5ghz processor vs 1.2ghz in the nexus. and the cameras....we shall see
but 4 cores....*droool*
quad core is to much for a phone IMO. tablet yes but phone..... there is no point. ITS A PHONE! if you needed that much power to make a call then there is something wrong with the phone. i feel dual cores are the most ever needed. maybe beef the ram up and and the dual core's speed to 2.0ghz and that should be the end of it.
Come on guys....does anyone really think there will be an 'end' to this? A year from now...if you don't have a quad core...you'll be old hat. Not that we will need it but, oh, you'll have to have it.
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quad core is to much for a phone IMO. tablet yes but phone..... there is no point. ITS A PHONE! if you needed that much power to make a call then there is something wrong with the phone. i feel dual cores are the most ever needed. maybe beef the ram up and and the dual core's speed to 2.0ghz and that should be the end of it.
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Exactly. After I get the Rezound, I'm gonna root it right away, and probably try to clock it up to around 2.0, I'll be set with this phone for the next maybe year and a half or so. Unless there's an extreme breakthrough in battery technology, I'm not getting another phone for a long time, I really don't care how many damn cores they put in it.
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Exactly. After I get the Rezound, I'm gonna root it right away, and probably try to clock it up to around 2.0, I'll be set with this phone for the next maybe year and a half or so. Unless there's an extreme breakthrough in battery technology, I'm not getting another phone for a long time, I really don't care how many damn cores they put in it.
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yeah they need to dump $$$ into R&D on the battery and making the phone last longer and not more power. soon we will only be able to run the phone for 4 hours with all the power going into it. if i wanted to use my phone as my laptop i would use my laptop. at full performance the thing only last 2 hours. i dont want my phone to be this way.
things i want to see in a phone.
longer battery. i would like18 hours of extreme use.
better camera sensors. (ie light sensors, better exposure control ect)
a 3mp front face camera. (that is more than enough)
Higher screen res
thats all i can think of. i think a 2.0 Dual core phone with 1ghz of ram maybe 2ghz one day. 2ghz rom and internal storage of 16gb.
that would make one mean phone.
The benefit of more cores is that it will save battery life while increasing performance (if done correctly) so each core should be slower but all together much more powerful and consumes much less energy.
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The benefit of more cores is that it will save battery life while increasing performance (if done correctly) so each core should be slower but all together much more powerful and consumes much less energy.
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i didnt know that. i thought it was just more power means more battery loss. thats good to know.
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The benefit of more cores is that it will save battery life while increasing performance (if done correctly) so each core should be slower but all together much more powerful and consumes much less energy.
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That makes sense. Well, I'm still gonna go with the Rezound, by the time I'm due for another phone, I'm hoping batteries will be better, and there'll be a better quantity of super amoled plus screens, for HTC, not just Samsung and Motorola, and quad cores, or maybe even something higher, will be the norm. And something like, I dunno, 1080p screens. Though, I'd still only go with a 4.3 inch screen...some screens now are getting too big. Oh, and Jelly Bean will be around by then and maybe some Sense 5.0
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That makes sense. Well, I'm still gonna go with the Rezound, by the time I'm due for another phone, I'm hoping batteries will be better, and there'll be a better quantity of super amoled plus screens, for HTC, not just Samsung and Motorola, and quad cores, or maybe even something higher, will be the norm. And something like, I dunno, 1080p screens. Though, I'd still only go with a 4.3 inch screen...some screens now are getting too big. Oh, and Jelly Bean will be around by then and maybe some Sense 5.0
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Heck the screen on the rezound is really nice! Of has some 340 ppi with its screen which is 20 more ppi than the screen on the iPhone! Now that's a good screen!
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Some info on Nvidia's Tegra 3
http://m.ign.com/articles/2011/11/08/nvidia-unleashes-the-quad-core-tegra-3-processor
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Some info on Nvidia's Tegra 3
http://m.ign.com/articles/2011/11/08/nvidia-unleashes-the-quad-core-tegra-3-processor
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yeah for a tablet it would be good but for a phone. idk i dont play video games on my phone. screen is to small and it hurts my neck. XD
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yeah for a tablet it would be good but for a phone. idk i dont play video games on my phone. screen is to small and it hurts my neck. XD
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I would hope that the power saving features would carry over pretty well. Btw I got that file to install last night. Hit me up on gtalk, ill tell you what happened
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anyone considering the Rezound read this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htcs-likely-rezounding-disappointment/
I have the Inc for another year, no complaints about that... miui is keeping me happy, Hopefully Google will be pushing out some of their own hardware by then, delivering super polished devices, dual/quad/octo whatever... also, they discovered something about nanotube technology and battery life/ charging...
http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=23278.php
that strip she is holding is the batt... I donno if this will help us, but i dont care if my battery dies in 2 hours as long as it can charge in 30 seconds... also, imagine the size of the phone?
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anyone considering the Rezound read this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htcs-likely-rezounding-disappointment/
I have the Inc for another year, no complaints about that... miui is keeping me happy, Hopefully Google will be pushing out some of their own hardware by then, delivering super polished devices, dual/quad/octo whatever... also, they discovered something about nanotube technology and battery life/ charging...
http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=23278.php
that strip she is holding is the batt... I donno if this will help us, but i dont care if my battery dies in 2 hours as long as it can charge in 30 seconds... also, imagine the size of the phone?
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As sweet as the Rezound is spec wise if the bootloader is locked with no way to unlock and achieve S-off then it will be the Nexus for me. Regardless I plan in waiting at least a month or 2 or longer to see what happens with each and where the devs go.
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I made a thread about this earlier, about locked bootloaders.... Somebody basically said "its HTC so it will be unlocked".... Apparently not. It will be a gnex for me as well if the HTC is locked down
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i didnt know that. i thought it was just more power means more battery loss. thats good to know.
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yeah that's the theory anyway, since this will be one of the first 4-core phones it could totally suck horrible battery life.
I'm loving a lot of the phones that are coming out, but my INC hasn't failed me yet- and there's nothing pushing me to get anything else besides pure neediness. A few more months and I will see
maybe something tragic will happen to my INC and I'll get one of these badassery phones.
Looks like a sweet phone. Quad-core may be worth waiting for. Battery life is going to be the question though.
I've been following this phone for a while, and while I think it'll be the best flagship out this cycle for me, I'm still not too happy with the fact that it's an 801 processor trying to push a 1440p screen.
I'm still split between waiting out about a year for the G4 while using the Moto G or just taking the plunge and getting this phone. Hopefully an 810 processor (or 808 at the worst) should be able to handle the screen without battery/heat/staggering issues.
For people who've used this phone for a while, if you could return your G3 for a full refund and wait for the G4 with a Moto G, would you?
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I've been following this phone for a while, and while I think it'll be the best flagship out this cycle for me, I'm still not too happy with the fact that it's an 801 processor trying to push a 1440p screen.
I'm still split between waiting out about a year for the G4 while using the Moto G or just taking the plunge and getting this phone. Hopefully an 810 processor (or 808 at the worst) should be able to handle the screen without battery/heat/staggering issues.
If you could return your G3 for a full refund and wait for the G4 with a Moto G, would you?
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As mentioned by someone else, the screen resolution hardly impacts performance, the 801 chip can handle a 4k screen pretty easily, the problem lies with optimisations, the G2 was the same when it came out, but software updates made it the phone we know for speed today.
, I personally have no heating issues on software 10H, lag does exist but its just a few frame rates, its as fast as any other 801 at opening apps. The moto G is a nice phone, your best bet is holding out until LG fix issues with a software update.
I have both a Verizon prepaid MotoG and just recently a Verizon LG G3. Both are very nice phones. I use the G3 though.
Yup.. on initial my firmware 10b alot of people were quick to judge the capability of the 801 due to the micro-stutters.
Right now I'm on 10j and all seems well. You'll be surprised how well the 801 handles the 1440p display.
And for your question.. personally, no. The G4 will bring in more unknown issues and satisfaction will never be there. If budget is an issue, then wait and save up. If not, I rather just get the latest and greatest right now.
I sense alot of people are eagerly waiting for a 805 device but the fact is it's aint leaps better. The nVidia K1 is a better beast. So I'm sensing if the G4 may not be alot better than the G3 depending on the chip they use. And if they go beyond 5.5", I'm totally out. Smartphone technology seemed to be saturated at this moment.
One can always wait for the next greatest product. We don't know anything about the G4 so how can anyone advise you to wait for it - or not?
When do you think the g4 will come out? That seems like a long wait..
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I think that issues you mention is software maturity problem. Mostly solved in 10j firmware. It play games smoothly so i dont see any problem with 801 on 1440p, maybe in benchmark but i dont play bench.
Im not gonna trade G3 with any other phone at the moment.
If Xiaomi Redmi 1s arrived earlier in my country, I'd bought it first then wait for Nexus 6...
But I'm satisfied with my G3 now.
The phone (G3) is great but if you feel no reason to upgrade, I'd say wait.
There's always going to be something better around the corner.
If anything, wait until you're so intrigued by a phone that you don't have to ask yourself that question and you'll just go along and buy it.
New Tegras on the way, those should be nice.
So the G4 won't have any issues? Once any flagship device drops you can be assured that there will be issues associated with that device.
i wouldnt have the moto g in the first place..i would have gotten the n5 instead
I would, rite the way. I regret buying this phone and i am thinking about selling it and going back to my nexus 4 and wait for the next nexus.
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I would, rite the way. I regret buying this phone and i am thinking about selling it and going back to my nexus 4 and wait for the next nexus.
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Really? I've got the nexus 4 now and have had it since it came out and I'm looking for an upgrade. I want a bigger screen, better battery and camera.
Why do you regret the purchase?
My nexus 4 is in mint condition, rooted bit stock and never overclocked. This one is only a few months old as I did a warranty replacement. Let me know if you are interested in selling and swapping.
The problem with waiting for new models is that there are always new models coming out. It is a tough call especially when not knowing about certain models and what they will offer.
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Really? I've got the nexus 4 now and have had it since it came out and I'm looking for an upgrade. I want a bigger screen, better battery and camera.
Why do you regret the purchase?
My nexus 4 is in mint condition, rooted bit stock and never overclocked. This one is only a few months old as I did a warranty replacement. Let me know if you are interested in selling and swapping.
The problem with waiting for new models is that there are always new models coming out. It is a tough call especially when not knowing about certain models and what they will offer.
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I have my nexus 4 that's why I'm thinking about switching back but thanks for the offer only thing I would miss is the big screen and the camera but overall the nexus 4 feels snappier than my G3 a lot of times...
My nexus4 developed the same dead area in the center of the touchscreen that most of them do eventually. I still have it, but my Nexus5 and now my G3 are a lot more fun. I also have a MotoG and it fits really nicely in my hand - the G3 is really just a bit too big for complete comfort, particularly with any kind of case on it (necessary).
That little MotoG is really a remarkable device.
Thanks, still love my nexus 4 but really getting itchy for something new.
Is your main reason for not wanting the lg g3 just the lag? I'm hoping that stuff will be fixed with updates..
I may end up waiting for the note 4.. Not sure yet but really looking for a larger screen now.
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Thanks, still love my nexus 4 but really getting itchy for something new.
Is your main reason for not wanting the lg g3 just the lag? I'm hoping that stuff will be fixed with updates..
I may end up waiting for the note 4.. Not sure yet but really looking for a larger screen now.
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Well, basically yes, the phone is not fluid, and I also started to have the shutdown/reboot bug. All of these I believe to be a hardware issue, and I think LG should recall and replace all these units. It's not nice having a meltdown on a phone. I also think is behind with software, Sony devices are already on 4.4.4 while we are on 4.4.2 (at least me). Also the UI is fugly and unoptimized imo, after having Sony and Nexus devices, I would say Song's UI is the sexiest, if I can't get that, I'd go aosp. But I do like how sexy the phone looks like, I like the camera but the options are limited - there I think again, Sony leads the way -, and I like the remote control. The screen would be awesome if it wouldn't be the reason of the overheating - with the other hardware elements together of course.
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Then just get a Note 4.
The 801 has more than enough balls for the qhd display. I can play games smoothly with my cpu and gpu downclocked.
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This is a thing that has puzzled me a bit, so first I'll present my own point of view and then I'd really like to hear what you guys think.
You can see pictures of the G4 here http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-leaks-in-all-of-its-glory_id68166
My G2 has served me really well, and honestly it doesn't have to be replaced. It's still very fast and gets the job done. However, after 1 ½ year it gets old - it has never been the most interesting phone design-wise and with the new phones having a much more attractive design you get tempted. Add to that, that the battery isn't what it used to be either. What made me buy it back then, was it's absolutely fantastic internals at an affordable price. And I don't regret purchasing it.
The LG G4 looks great - especially in leather - and the fact that it has MicroSD support and a removable battery means that I won't run short of storage (especially when flashing and keeping backups on the phone) and wiping internal storage is no longer a headache. The camera is supposed to be brilliant, but we'll have to see how it works out in real life. The screen looks promising - rumors say it's using 'Quantum Dot' display which results in better color accuracy and is more battery efficient. All good so far!
But according to the latest rumors, this thing comes with a Snapdragon 808. And mildly put, it doesn't look too well. Sure LG didn't have many options - either go with the overheating 810 or put in a worse 808. Not only is the 808 worse than the 810, it's also worse than the 805 in terms of GPU capabilities and power. It's not much but last year most people considered a Snapdragon 805 the absolute minimum requirement for a phone with a QHD display. We all saw how the LG G3 performed with its QHD display - it wasn't bad, but by no means impressive.
I think that LG should've sticked to the 810 and disable two of the four A57 cores on a kernel level. I'm sure a 4+2 setup is plenty processing power, but the Adreno 430 GPU outperforms the Adreno 418 (found in the Snapdragon 808) by a huge margin. In addition to that, Snapdragon 810 supports DDR4 RAM.
I'm torn, and thinking to wait for the Samsung Note 5 and hope it won't come with a UHD display. What are your thoughts?
The Lg g2 had been my best ✆ for three years. It was gorgeous, it was very fast, it lasted all day.
I wasn't impressed with the G3 but I think the G4 has my name written on it. They've had some time to play with the configuration, I'm sure it will be excellent.
They're going to have to crank up the design next year though. Just saying.
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eh i will skip G4 becouse i bought my G2 one year ago and i still need to stay with it for 12 months, but i will probably buy G5 or other 2016 flagship phone
As lg phones are locked down, I'm not gonna buy it. The g2 is great and is still the greatest phone they made. But as a flashaholic and someone who likes modding their phone, an unlocked bootloader is very important to me. I only bought the g2 because it was such great value. It turned out to be such a powerful and fun little beast though with a great community as well. It was lightening in a bottle. But my criteria is a bit more strict now. I'll be sticking with the 1+ for a while
No need. I see no advantage to upgrading because my G2 can do everything I need it to. When I get another phone it'll be a nexus or the Asus Zenphone 2, whichever has the larger community.
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Either this or I just may break down and grab a Note 5 or S6 Edge after they iron the initial kinks out.
We'll see... G3 is a good phone and would rank higher if the G2 didn't exist but wasn't great enough to make me sell My G2.
With that said...let the games begin
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With the G2 being a beast phone there's really not enough to convince me why I should upgrade to the G4 besides the Camera, Removable Battery and Expandable Storage. I live perfectly fine without a Removable Battery and Expandable Storage and the G2 has 32GB of Internal Memory and a 3000mAh battery.. so why bother? There's more chance of me getting a 1+ if I was going to upgrade. I have yet to experience a world with an unlocked bootloader.
Yay for capitalism!
Any like @siggey said,
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This will more than likely happen.
G2 is great with me, but looking for better camera with G4.
FullHD is enough, 2k is not really necessary. More important thing is the battery life - which many people said that 2k display on G3 made the battery worse.
I think like the OP. I have a vs980 but I'm seriously thinking about jumping to T-Mobile. I thought I read last year that LG was going to allow unlocked bootloaders going forward with the G3. Given the fact that the G4 has a Snapdragon processor, an external SD card slot and removable batteries I'm thinking there is a lot of potential for a large dev community (especially since the S6 doesn't offer these things). We'll see.
No. I went back to the g2 from the g3 because I didn't like the size. I would get a g4 mini iff it was 5-5.2 and had a high end processor. As it stands now, the s6 and s6 edge look like more suitable replacements
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I'm not going to use LG anymore, LG does not satisfy me.
Having owned a few Android devices, I am getting a feeling that the best way to get android experience is to buy a Nexus device. The hardware and the price are only a part of the equation, although we know Nexus devices normally have a great price-performance relation. What makes Nexus so cool is having less pre-installed bloat or custumizations and it's pretty much guaranteed that for the next three years or so you will be the first in the line to get the android updates. Case in point is the stock ROM situation with the current G2. It gives you a glimpse of what it will be like to use the G4 18 months from now. Even though Lollipop 5.1 has come and gone, and the Nexus devices are now running the latest revision of Android 6.0.x, the G2 is still on 5.0.x. Another great example is my Samsung Galaxy Tab S tablet that I bought only a year ago. (This was Samsung's flagship tablet in 2014). Same story here. Still using 5.0, and I imagine Marshmallow is something like six months away and it will be the final update from Samsung. On the other hand, the ancient Nexus 7 is still getting Marshmallow updates.
Been thinking about getting the new Nexus 6P yesterday had the money in my pocket and walked out without it..
Think i prefer my Shamu to be honest...
Anyone else upgraded what did you think i was thinking slightly slimmer would be better but i'm not so sure now...
I actually feel that it is a step backwards. Yeah sure, its a "64bit" and can fix up the disk encryption performance problems, but overall, the SD810 is actually WEAKER than the 805. I *certainly* wouldn't spend any money to switch over, especially going from a premium brand like Motorola (and yes, it is still a premium brand) to a bottom rung like Huawei.
Now if everybody had gotten their a**es in gear and made this an SD820, then I would really be in a situation of regretting having purchased the 805 and not just holding onto the 8260A for a few more months. I will not buy a new phone every year -- 2 year min lifespan for me.
Just wondering, where did you go to look at one in person? I'm not really looking for a new phone, but I'd like to go take a look at both of the new phones just to see what they're like.
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Just wondering, where did you go to look at one in person? I'm not really looking for a new phone, but I'd like to go take a look at both of the new phones just to see what they're like.
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Carphone Warehouse have them in...
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Just wondering, where did you go to look at one in person? I'm not really looking for a new phone, but I'd like to go take a look at both of the new phones just to see what they're like.
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Please note that he's from UK.... so any answer he gives won't actually help you, being from the US.
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Please note that he's from UK.... so any answer he gives won't actually help you, being from the US.
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ah i didn't notice sorry yeah UK launch day was yesterday...
The 6P looks like a really nice phone, but there are 5 things stopping me from buying one:
- Smaller screen (I'm the type of guy that could carry a 7 inch tablet as a phone and not whine)
- Snapdragon 810 (pure trash)
- Made by Huawei (never heard of them before)
- My Nexus 6 gets the best reception of any phone I've ever owned and I don't want to lose that
- I just bought a Nexus 6 in June and another July (went swimming with my first one :crying: ) and can't justify spending another $650 on the 6P
I'll wait for the 2016, or possibly even the 2017 Nexus phones.
I find my nexus 6 a little too wide so was considering the new one because its slightly narrower it was a tad difficult to hold properly because the only one carphone warehouse had was attached to the security tag/cord which was attached to the back of it...
Struggling to justify the cost to drop a few mm in width...
if you are into phonography, the 6p camera is much better.
im not too surprised to read that you decided not to get it , i would buy another Nexus 6 over a Nexus 6p, if i had the money !
i am dealing with a screen defect, and when i get my hands on some money and sell this baby, i will order another Nexus 6 and hope to receive it with a non-defect screen as this phone is very gorgeous ( Yes i have been whining quite alot about my screen issue XD ) but oh well, good that you didnt get it in the end imo the Nexus 6 is already a top notch phone.
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The 6P looks like a really nice phone, but there are 5 things stopping me from buying one:
- Smaller screen (I'm the type of guy that could carry a 7 inch tablet as a phone and not whine)
- Snapdragon 810 (pure trash)
- Made by Huawei (never heard of them before)
- My Nexus 6 gets the best reception of any phone I've ever owned and I don't want to lose that
- I just bought a Nexus 6 in June and another July (went swimming with my first one :crying: ) and can't justify spending another $650 on the 6P
I'll wait for the 2016, or possibly even the 2017 Nexus phones.
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What's wrong with the 810, i have an m9 and an lg g flex 2. I play hours of 3d games like contest of champions, clash and psx emulator, and It doesnt either explode or cause third degree burns. It gets pretty much as hot as my nexus 6 which is 805.
I'm hoping Best Buy has them at some point to go look at them. The Nexus 6 is great, but it's nice to see what is replacing it.
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What's wrong with the 810, i have an m9 and an lg g flex 2. I play hours of 3d games like contest of champions, clash and psx emulator, and It doesnt either explode or cause third degree burns. It gets pretty much as hot as my nexus 6 which is 805.
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Everything I've read says it throttles very aggressively, sometimes for no obvious reason, causing lag and other performance issues. I've seen other people say it overheats just browsing the web. Of course these are just random people on the internet and you can't believe what they say.
I played with an M9 at the Verizon store the other day when I was helping my friend pick out a new phone and it got very hot very fast and began to stutter and lag. Granted it was plugged in and was running whatever demo stuff they load onto it, so that could have been the cause.
My Nexus 6 never gets hot, or even warm, with my use. I'm sure the 6P would be fine with stock Android and no bloat, but I still don't want an 810 powered device.
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The 6P looks like a really nice phone, but there are 5 things stopping me from buying one:
- Smaller screen (I'm the type of guy that could carry a 7 inch tablet as a phone and not whine)
- Snapdragon 810 (pure trash)
- Made by Huawei (never heard of them before)
- My Nexus 6 gets the best reception of any phone I've ever owned and I don't want to lose that
- I just bought a Nexus 6 in June and another July (went swimming with my first one :crying: ) and can't justify spending another $650 on the 6P
I'll wait for the 2016, or possibly even the 2017 Nexus phones.
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Everything I've read says it throttles very aggressively, sometimes for no obvious reason, causing lag and other performance issues. I've seen other people say it overheats just browsing the web. Of course these are just random people on the internet and you can't believe what they say.
I played with an M9 at the Verizon store the other day when I was helping my friend pick out a new phone and it got very hot very fast and began to stutter and lag. Granted it was plugged in and was running whatever demo stuff they load onto it, so that could have been the cause.
My Nexus 6 never gets hot, or even warm, with my use. I'm sure the 6P would be fine with stock Android and no bloat, but I still don't want an 810 powered device.
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Have you even read actual xda forums for the m9? There's about a billion roms and the ones who post about throttling are usually non-owners like you that believe these things even when they don't actually own the phone. Everybody has the right to choose, but I feel bad for you for making decisions based on awful information.
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Have you even read actual xda forums for the m9? There's about a billion roms and the ones who post about throttling are usually non-owners like you that believe these things even when they don't actually own the phone. Everybody has the right to choose, but I feel bad for you for making decisions based on awful information.
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I don't own an M9, so why would I read the M9 forums? The 810 isn't the only reason I'm not buying one. The main reasons are:
- I've bought 2 Nexus 6's this year so another new phone is not in my budget
- I've never heard of Hauwei so I'm a little reluctant to drop $500+ on a phone from a company I've never heard of before
Just because you have never heard of them ..... They are the 4th largest phone manufacturer in the world ahead of lg etc
Most have never heard of companies like xiaomi or one plus
Either ....
Doesn't mean they don't make quality tech
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/29/samsung-worlds-biggest-smartphone-manufacturer
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Lol©
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
Here's the deal guys...
The shamu is an amazing phone
The nexus 6p is an amazing phone
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doitright said:
I actually feel that it is a step backwards. Yeah sure, its a "64bit" and can fix up the disk encryption performance problems, but overall, the SD810 is actually WEAKER than the 805. I *certainly* wouldn't spend any money to switch over, especially going from a premium brand like Motorola (and yes, it is still a premium brand) to a bottom rung like Huawei.
Now if everybody had gotten their a**es in gear and made this an SD820, then I would really be in a situation of regretting having purchased the 805 and not just holding onto the 8260A for a few more months. I will not buy a new phone every year -- 2 year min lifespan for me.
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Times have changed. Huawei and other chinese makers are anything but noname companies. However,I wouldnt buy a Nexus 6p. The design is just horrible.
I think the 6p is better than the Nexus 6 in any way imaginable. Its a total upgrade across the board and according to all the reviews pouring in, the S810 performs wonderfully on the new nexus.
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
HitNrun_ said:
Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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kave2 said:
You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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And by then might as well wait for SD 830.
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
HitNrun_ said:
Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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You should buy one right now because if you wait 3-6 months it will be worth it to wait until the Nexus 7P is out.
I had the Nexus 6... Just sold.. The 6P is very much a better phone all around.
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HitNrun_ said:
Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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Wait for the sd830. Will be better.
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I think OP is just looking for a worthy jump in processing power. Anandtech recently did a review of the Nexus 5X, the thermal issues that plague the latest generation snapdragons is pitiful. Qualcomm seems to have screwed up. The generation jump from the S4 Kraits to the SD 800 and then the SD 805 was a lot more worth upgrading for.
From the review:
"The Snapdragon 805 in the Nexus 6 keeps all four cores at their max frequency for about twelve minutes before they all throttle down to 2GHz and remain there for nearly two hours. Meanwhile, Snapdragon 808 can only keep its two A57 cores at their peak frequency for two minutes before throttling both down to 633MHz and putting the A53s up to their peak 1.44GHz. After twelve minutes the A57s are just shut off entirely, and you're left with a cluster of 4 A53 cores at 1.44GHz."
"It's disappointing that this year's Qualcomm silicon means that the performance improvement over a two year old Nexus 5 is not very large. Our past published data shows that the behavior of the Snapdragon 810 SoC in the Nexus 6P will almost certainly behave in the same manner, and in that case you'll actually be looking at an overall regression compared to the Nexus 6 when your workload spans any longer than a minute or two.
On the one hand, I think it would have been better for Google to wait until Snapdragon 820 launched so it could be utilized...
I can certainly forgive the issue when the device costs $379, but I don't think it would be as easy to pass if it's also true of the 6P, and overall I'm most disappointed about the relative lack of improvement over the original Nexus 5 despite the two year gap between the two."
Honestly, I have seen some early benchmarks of the snapdragon 820, Qualcomm has ditched the Big.Little architecture and gone back to a balanced quad core design with its kyro cores. While the results are significantly better than the SD 810, IMO it is still going to be the generation which will be playing catch-up to the Samsung Exynos.. compared to the Exynos 7420 in the current galaxy devices, the SD 820 is better in single core performance but still lags behind in multi-core because of the shift in architecture..Also the gains in power consumption and efficiency are largely because of the lesser cores. The next gen Exynos 8890 should again be able to outperform the SD 820, but I guess Qualcomm is going to readjust itself on the right path with the SD 820. So maybe the jump after the SD 820 will be even more favorable, only time will tell. For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
HWell the question was because the sd820 will be used in 2 months from now and the sd830 (if thats the model by then) itll be used in 1 year and 2 months, but i quest the only people that answered my question are 12 year old kids being sarcastic. I would be happy if someone with knowledge could answer my question instead of funny people
P.S. Thank you very much guru_urug
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
LTU seems to have a future in improving availability of data/voice connection. I think 3x3 carrier aggregation is not in service on any of the cellular service providers, and I haven't read a thing about when it will be implemented. I think the 6p has mimo 2x2 WiFi and 2x2 carrier aggregation. I've been using a 6p for about 2 weeks now, and it seems like the radios and microphones work better than my previous phone (Nexus 6).
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i have the 6p almost 2 weeks now,was concerned about 810 processor but believe me this is the smoothest, most consistent running device i have ever owned, google is smart to release phones after summer,we dont start out with overheatingl,,lol im curious when the hot weather comes back how theses phuckers will handle the heat,,buy the phone and have a blast..steve
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
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Woah woah woah! I thought they were scrapping the 840 to rush the 900a series into production. Wtf. Why am I the last to know these things!!!!!?
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In all seriousness though... Look at the performance differences between 800, 805, etc... If approx 20% performance increases (on paper) are that critical to you, then wait.
If you want the smoothest android experience on the planet, get the 6P.
Simple enough.
ShaunWinSC said:
If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
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Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
david31262 said:
Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
guru_urug said:
For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
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That's exactly it. People are convinced that they need bigger (well, smaller!) and better chipsets, but my Snapdragon 800 Nexus 5 still performs brilliantly. The performance on games is just fine, and there's no lagging. I do think a big problem is a consumer sees something stuttering and puts it down to the CPU. Crikey, my Galaxy Tab S stutters (thanks TouchWiz) but it's an octo-core tablet. It's NOT too slow because of some UI glitches!
It's also why you can pick up a Snapdragon 400 or 410 device, or even Snapdragon 200, and get a perfectly good user experience - let down only when you go for the most graphic intensive games, which I suspect most people aren't even doing. Even I now play relatively few games, and many are far more of the casual gamer type ones anyway.
My concern with my 6P is battery life, more so than the throttling issues, so that's what I'm hoping is improved on SD820 over and above everything else. (I should add that I've purchased a 6P already)
Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
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I own a nexus 6 at the moment, i love nexus devices, i had a nexus 5 before the 6 and a 4 before that. My concern is about some problems i saw on other devices like htc and lg (flex 2). I know ofc that they say sd810 on oneplus and n6p is an other version (which i believe is just for the media) and ofc i know that nexus devices are much faster than other phones with same specs, but those problems with overheating etc are bugging me, thats the reasson i ask.