Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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And by then might as well wait for SD 830.
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
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You should buy one right now because if you wait 3-6 months it will be worth it to wait until the Nexus 7P is out.
I had the Nexus 6... Just sold.. The 6P is very much a better phone all around.
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Wait for the sd830. Will be better.
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I think OP is just looking for a worthy jump in processing power. Anandtech recently did a review of the Nexus 5X, the thermal issues that plague the latest generation snapdragons is pitiful. Qualcomm seems to have screwed up. The generation jump from the S4 Kraits to the SD 800 and then the SD 805 was a lot more worth upgrading for.
From the review:
"The Snapdragon 805 in the Nexus 6 keeps all four cores at their max frequency for about twelve minutes before they all throttle down to 2GHz and remain there for nearly two hours. Meanwhile, Snapdragon 808 can only keep its two A57 cores at their peak frequency for two minutes before throttling both down to 633MHz and putting the A53s up to their peak 1.44GHz. After twelve minutes the A57s are just shut off entirely, and you're left with a cluster of 4 A53 cores at 1.44GHz."
"It's disappointing that this year's Qualcomm silicon means that the performance improvement over a two year old Nexus 5 is not very large. Our past published data shows that the behavior of the Snapdragon 810 SoC in the Nexus 6P will almost certainly behave in the same manner, and in that case you'll actually be looking at an overall regression compared to the Nexus 6 when your workload spans any longer than a minute or two.
On the one hand, I think it would have been better for Google to wait until Snapdragon 820 launched so it could be utilized...
I can certainly forgive the issue when the device costs $379, but I don't think it would be as easy to pass if it's also true of the 6P, and overall I'm most disappointed about the relative lack of improvement over the original Nexus 5 despite the two year gap between the two."
Honestly, I have seen some early benchmarks of the snapdragon 820, Qualcomm has ditched the Big.Little architecture and gone back to a balanced quad core design with its kyro cores. While the results are significantly better than the SD 810, IMO it is still going to be the generation which will be playing catch-up to the Samsung Exynos.. compared to the Exynos 7420 in the current galaxy devices, the SD 820 is better in single core performance but still lags behind in multi-core because of the shift in architecture..Also the gains in power consumption and efficiency are largely because of the lesser cores. The next gen Exynos 8890 should again be able to outperform the SD 820, but I guess Qualcomm is going to readjust itself on the right path with the SD 820. So maybe the jump after the SD 820 will be even more favorable, only time will tell. For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
HWell the question was because the sd820 will be used in 2 months from now and the sd830 (if thats the model by then) itll be used in 1 year and 2 months, but i quest the only people that answered my question are 12 year old kids being sarcastic. I would be happy if someone with knowledge could answer my question instead of funny people
P.S. Thank you very much guru_urug
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
LTU seems to have a future in improving availability of data/voice connection. I think 3x3 carrier aggregation is not in service on any of the cellular service providers, and I haven't read a thing about when it will be implemented. I think the 6p has mimo 2x2 WiFi and 2x2 carrier aggregation. I've been using a 6p for about 2 weeks now, and it seems like the radios and microphones work better than my previous phone (Nexus 6).
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i have the 6p almost 2 weeks now,was concerned about 810 processor but believe me this is the smoothest, most consistent running device i have ever owned, google is smart to release phones after summer,we dont start out with overheatingl,,lol im curious when the hot weather comes back how theses phuckers will handle the heat,,buy the phone and have a blast..steve
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
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Woah woah woah! I thought they were scrapping the 840 to rush the 900a series into production. Wtf. Why am I the last to know these things!!!!!?
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In all seriousness though... Look at the performance differences between 800, 805, etc... If approx 20% performance increases (on paper) are that critical to you, then wait.
If you want the smoothest android experience on the planet, get the 6P.
Simple enough.
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If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
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Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
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For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
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That's exactly it. People are convinced that they need bigger (well, smaller!) and better chipsets, but my Snapdragon 800 Nexus 5 still performs brilliantly. The performance on games is just fine, and there's no lagging. I do think a big problem is a consumer sees something stuttering and puts it down to the CPU. Crikey, my Galaxy Tab S stutters (thanks TouchWiz) but it's an octo-core tablet. It's NOT too slow because of some UI glitches!
It's also why you can pick up a Snapdragon 400 or 410 device, or even Snapdragon 200, and get a perfectly good user experience - let down only when you go for the most graphic intensive games, which I suspect most people aren't even doing. Even I now play relatively few games, and many are far more of the casual gamer type ones anyway.
My concern with my 6P is battery life, more so than the throttling issues, so that's what I'm hoping is improved on SD820 over and above everything else. (I should add that I've purchased a 6P already)
Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
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I own a nexus 6 at the moment, i love nexus devices, i had a nexus 5 before the 6 and a 4 before that. My concern is about some problems i saw on other devices like htc and lg (flex 2). I know ofc that they say sd810 on oneplus and n6p is an other version (which i believe is just for the media) and ofc i know that nexus devices are much faster than other phones with same specs, but those problems with overheating etc are bugging me, thats the reasson i ask.
Related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ
Next match up
SGS2 vs laptop.
I crown it Samsung Galaxy S Jizz.
At least the other phones don't self combust
Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
DocRambone said:
Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
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Thats what I was kind of getting at!
tameracingdriver said:
At least the other phones don't self combust
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ok that made me laugh
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Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
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what are you running on it causing it to die in 1/2 day?
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what are you running on it causing it to die in 1/2 day?
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A samsung stock rom.
At least the other phones wifi works properly
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ
Next match up
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I crown it Samsung Galaxy S Jizz.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
1) First bad graphics choice. mali400 is much weaker than Power VR543 (so chances are this time iphone will have better graphics especially since it's software will be build specifically for it). If they go for mali t604 next year it will be roughly 20 times more powerfull (5 times mali400 core to core)
2) No 3D (not completely necessary at the moment since software needs to be optimized for it first, but certainly not future-proof).
3) Same cheap plastic iphone-like design (least make it something different for once, i like optimus 3D design for instance)
4) To take advantage of multicore and it's improved battery life u need Ice cream Sandwich (in ur face) which wouldn't be out now till Christmas and last time i checked Samsung doesn't have good update history and by THAT time u will hearing about quad-core phones being released shortly (just google- already a bunch of rumors about it). What gives the S2 speed at the moment is 1.2 GHz vs 1ghz from the last and EXT4 and other optimization of gingerbread with better drivers
Via twitter back a few month ago samsung was also considering about quad-core and 3d in their next phone, but i also found this topic about Eldar Murtazin which still exists: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...iPhone-5-both-slated-for-fall-release_id18446
As u see it also has some very interesting info about new screen technology and direction that Samsung is heading to, although i highly doubt about 6 month release table (it will most probably be carrier specific, aka galaxy S2 captivate with 4.5 inch screen, 2GHz dual-core, 4g etc for AT&T like Samsung infuse 4G, for Christmas), it certainly gives u an idea that this phone will be outdated within just few month. So whether u like it or not (or ignore my comment), just see for urself next year when u wasted money!
I certainly wouldn't spend 700 dollars on unlocked phone when a better one will be out in 6-10 month
NOW, many of u might say to me that this is either just rumors or that u can't catch up to technology, but this actually quite false.
First of all many of these rumors are originated from information leaked during prototype testing phases.
Second technology moves in steps.
For instance, while we will see quad-core phones next year (and no doubt about it, Sony NGP (not phone) will be first portable quad-core coming out by end of this year already), we will NOT see 8 core phones any time soon since cortex a9 only supports up to 4 cores and cortex a15 only up to 2 in a phone. Also how many laptops have 8 core CPU- most have stopped at 2 or 4.
we already witnessed how mega-pixel race has ended in 2009 since no phones since then went for 16mp or more. In fact Samsung galaxy s went back to 5 after developing 8mp camera phones (innov8 and i8910 HD) for 2 years.
Screens wouldn't go larger than 4.3 inch (otherwise wouldn't be portable), and 1080p video recording is as high as it can get, so in those things S2 maxes out already on what is possible. Also it's 1GB ram should hopefully be enough to run multiple apps this time although not as many as symbian. But it isn't perfect by any means.
Still if Samsung continue to push forward like in S2, their next phone will be maxed out in just about everything that the software will require.
After that it will mostly be smaller cpu architectural changes and while CPU may stay at 4, gpu can go up to 16 cores, however how much would u really need??
this is what i mean by software cause no developer will be willing to develop crysis 2 for phones and sell it for 10 bucks. power 543 is needed for Sony NGP more than anything else. (i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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I feel for you mate, I had that phone for a while, good hardware at the time but symbian kind of made it suck.
Even now theres not much available for it and many of the high end games run pretty badly, I give it to my sister so I still play around with it now and again.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
1) First bad graphics choice. mali400 is much weaker than Power VR543 (so chances are this time iphone will have better graphics especially since it's software will be build specifically for it). If they go for mali t604 next year it will be roughly 20 times more powerfull (5 times mali400 core to core)
2) No 3D (not completely necessary at the moment since software needs to be optimized for it first, but certainly not future-proof).
3) Same cheap plastic iphone-like design (least make it something different for once, i like optimus 3D design for instance)
4) To take advantage of multicore and it's improved battery life u need Ice cream Sandwich (in ur face) which wouldn't be out now till Christmas and last time i checked Samsung doesn't have good update history and by THAT time u will hearing about quad-core phones being released shortly (just google- already a bunch of rumors about it). What gives the S2 speed at the moment is 1.2 GHz vs 1ghz from the last and EXT4 and other optimization of gingerbread with better drivers
Via twitter back a few month ago samsung was also considering about quad-core and 3d in their next phone, but i also found this topic about Eldar Murtazin which still exists: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...iPhone-5-both-slated-for-fall-release_id18446
As u see it also has some very interesting info about new screen technology and direction that Samsung is heading to, although i highly doubt about 6 month release table (it will most probably be carrier specific, aka galaxy S2 captivate with 4.5 inch screen, 2GHz dual-core, 4g etc for AT&T like Samsung infuse 4G, for Christmas), it certainly gives u an idea that this phone will be outdated within just few month. So whether u like it or not (or ignore my comment), just see for urself next year when u wasted money!
I certainly wouldn't spend 700 dollars on unlocked phone when a better one will be out in 6-10 month
NOW, many of u might say to me that this is either just rumors or that u can't catch up to technology, but this actually quite false.
First of all many of these rumors are originated from information leaked during prototype testing phases.
Second technology moves in steps.
For instance, while we will see quad-core phones next year (and no doubt about it, Sony NGP (not phone) will be first portable quad-core coming out by end of this year already), we will NOT see 8 core phones any time soon since cortex a9 only supports up to 4 cores and cortex a15 only up to 2 in a phone. Also how many laptops have 8 core CPU- most have stopped at 2 or 4.
we already witnessed how mega-pixel race has ended in 2009 since no phones since then went for 16mp or more. In fact Samsung galaxy s went back to 5 after developing 8mp camera phones (innov8 and i8910 HD) for 2 years.
Screens wouldn't go larger than 4.3 inch (otherwise wouldn't be portable), and 1080p video recording is as high as it can get, so in those things S2 maxes out already on what is possible. Also it's 1GB ram should hopefully be enough to run multiple apps this time although not as many as symbian. But it isn't perfect by any means.
Still if Samsung continue to push forward like in S2, their next phone will be maxed out in just about everything that the software will require.
After that it will mostly be smaller cpu architectural changes and while CPU may stay at 4, gpu can go up to 16 cores, however how much would u really need??
this is what i mean by software cause no developer will be willing to develop crysis 2 for phones and sell it for 10 bucks. power 543 is needed for Sony NGP more than anything else. (i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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I'll just have to buy that phone when it comes out then, it's only money bro.
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I'll just have to buy that phone when it comes out then, it's only money bro.
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Lmao awesome answer. I think he's one of these people who never buys any tech cos he keeping thinking a newer one will be just around the corner.
On the point of updates though, who brought the first GB to the market?
Facts: the Galaxy S II is the fastest and most powerful hand-held device ever
, and (this includes the iPhone 5) it is the only portable device in the world than can play 1080p MKV and flash videos as smooth as butter for which the screen size and technology is ideal.
I personally think quad-cores in a cell phone is overkill, anyway. I mean, at present, the Galaxy S II perfectly does the above and multi-tasks and launches apps instantly - how much more can a quad core processor improve on that? Not much as its so fast to begin with. Plus, factoring in the fact that with dual-core even, battery drainage is a problem, i shudder to think how long the battery would last of a quad-core chip, especially if it had a fast GPU.
And on the subject of the GPU, the SGSII isn't targeted at hardcore gamers anyway - it'll do its job if its able to play most big title commercial and casual games well, and it's relative power would ensure future mainstream titles such as NFS would be playable at a smooth framerate- this is it's target audience. Simply put, if gaming is your first priority then this device isn't for you.
A real hardcore gaming phone will be the next iteration of the Xperia Play - with an nvidia chipset and PS2 game emulation and all that jazz - designed specifically for gamers. Just cannot play serious games without a joypad.
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3D is a waste of space, time and money
the sgs2 is much faster than my sgs1 yet both have ext4 and my sgs1* runs at 1.3Ghz.
not bothering to reply to the rest which are pretty much dumb assertions. phones get updated every 6-10 month since 5 years (except the iPhone). Get over it already.
This phone its so fast.. Forget what these videos have say, once you get the phone and see for your self you'll appreciate it more. Sometimes I can't believe this device that its so light and slim is this fast and I actually do think its more comparable to a laptop Than any phone out at the moment. It loads iplayer videos faster than my ps3 and just as fast as my pc. Way faster than my iphone 4 or my brothers desire hd.. way faster.
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So if it's "midstop in a right direction," what in your considered opinion is the phone we should all be getting assuming we want/need a phone in the next few months? This will be Samsung's flagship on the U.S. carriers for nine months to a year and it hasn't even launched their yet. As fast as technology moves I'm sure the SGS2 will evolve and that there will be an SGS3, but it's not going to be in the next six to nine months. As someone said earlier, if we all wait for the utopian phone we'll die with a TouchPro in our hands.
Don't judge me because i still use a touch pro!
so coming from an atrix (which is definitely underrated once blur is taken care of through TB) would it be worth the 200 or so extra? Im seeing very mixed reviews about this phone as well
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so coming from an atrix (which is definitely underrated once blur is taken care of through TB) would it be worth the 200 or so extra? Im seeing very mixed reviews about this phone as well
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Well worth it tbh. Came from my atrix, havent regreted it for a second. The atrix isnt in the same league
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i have been toying with the idea and while i can still get $500+ for the atrix. Nice to hear it from an x atrix user. I just dont know what the best way to get this phone to Canada is.
Well just read an article and specs on the new HTC One X coming to at&t and man I have to say I'm impressed. Ice cream sandwich and sense 4.0. This phone looks awesome may be holding my upgrade for this one Check it out
http://google.com/gwt/x?u=http://ww...&ei=Ji9MT9fKEYfExQKL2414&wsc=bf&ct=pg1&whp=30
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I'm for it.
But, the cons about these devices that are being talked about is no MicroSD storage and no removeable battery. Though, despite this change from previous phones, this is the future.
I already have all my music on google music, photos totally on picasa, contacts entered into in gmail, news feeds, calendar, etc... its all online. With no MicroSD spot, this pushes other phone users to put their data online so that it is always synced and safe from being lost.
The catch is, to access this data, you will have more data usage. So phone makers get to make thinner phones by leaving out the microsd and battery while the carriers benefit from us using data, accruing overage fees.
I have unlimited data/voice with sprint $90/month.
But, HTC One series aren't coming to sprint.
I have 3gb/30$ with ATT +$10/1gb extra.
So, streaming from netflix, or a movie on HTC Watch is like... gonna rack up the data usage.
no SD and no second battery will be a killer for me I think.
I was excited about this at first - but now :S
Yea saw the non removable battey but it's 1800 mAh capacity at least and since it has 32gb internal memory I am not to concerned about the lack of the sd card slot. Using a 16gb now and have over 6gb free so that's not a deal breaker for me. I would think with an 1800 mAh battery you could go a whole day without a charge but if the battery goes bad your kinda screwed.
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Yea saw the non removable battey but it's 1800 mAh capacity at least and since it has 32gb internal memory I am not to concerned about the lack of the sd card slot. Using a 16gb now and have over 6gb free so that's not a deal breaker for me. I would think with an 1800 mAh battery you could go a whole day without a charge but if the battery goes bad your kinda screwed.
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great points - i do usually carry a second battery for my little aria when travelling - like to watch movies on the plane and sitting in airport layovers
[yes i watch movies on that little phone ].
this goes pretty much like an iPhone .......
No removable battery is lame! One x look great though. I can't wait till 2013, when there's a phone with 3.75" screen (small phone like aria) with quad core! That would be my dream phone. One day.....
the international version has quad core, which kind of disappoints me...
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the international version has quad core, which kind of disappoints me...
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Yeah. It's because Tegra 3 doesn't support LTE yet. They have to use a Qualcomm CPU instead.
That said, I'm a little skeptical of whether you would really notice significant benefits jumping from 2 to 4 cores for most of the things you'd do on a phone. Really the only thing I can think of where it would be a noticeable difference is with playing games on the phone. (And of course, some games are exclusive to Tegra.) Anything else (day to day usage) would tend to work better with fewer but faster cores, IMO.
If you want a LTE phone with a non-Qualcomm CPU, you'll have to wait until at least second half of 2012 it looks like.
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Yeah. It's because Tegra 3 doesn't support LTE yet. They have to use a Qualcomm CPU instead.
That said, I'm a little skeptical of whether you would really notice significant benefits jumping from 2 to 4 cores for most of the things you'd do on a phone. Really the only thing I can think of where it would be a noticeable difference is with playing games on the phone. (And of course, some games are exclusive to Tegra.) Anything else (day to day usage) would tend to work better with fewer but faster cores, IMO.
If you want a LTE phone with a non-Qualcomm CPU, you'll have to wait until at least second half of 2012 it looks like.
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I don't think many people would notice a difference YET either, however with time, the phone will show its age....4 cores=far more future-proof
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I don't think many people would notice a difference YET either, however with time, the phone will show its age....4 cores=far more future-proof
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I don't really think so. You can only have one application in the foreground at once on an Android phone, so you could argue that having two 1.5GHz cores (One XL) would be preferable to having four 1.2GHz cores (One X). It depends ultimately on what you are doing on the phone. Also keep in mind that more cores means more power consumption.
In my opinion the biggest downside of the One XL is the GPU. The Adreno 225 is a bit old compared to Tegra 3. If anything that is the thing that will make the One XL less future proof than the One X.
My sgs2 skyrocket has 2 1.5s and eats a battery quick.... Like 6-8 hours of usage quick. My guess is 4 cores would make the phone quite unusable in day to day activity. You would need to have a charger everywhere you go, and a place to plug it. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a "portable phone" lol.
my ATRIX 2 rarely wakes the second core as it's not usually needed.for most things my wife's inspire performs about as good.
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Which is why I have pre-ordered the International version. I do not need LTE. And the 3G is AT&T ready.
I'm a bit torn on the One X vs the One XL. I'm a current AT&T subscriber.. contract up in June.
On the one hand, in Las Vegas we actually have AT&T's LTE network. On the other hand, 16GB isn't really that much and with no sdcard slot I'm a bit worried about that (I take lots of photos).
Do we really think AT&T will be 2 months behind the One X launch on 4/5/2012?
tried The search before i posted is the HTC One X only coming to AT&T network in April or all networks?
thanks
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tried The search before i posted is the HTC One X only coming to AT&T network in April or all networks?
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As far as I know att will be the only us carrier that will offer the phone.
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Well damn. After getting the Note, it seems like that desire for the SGS3, HTC One X, or whatever new swanky phone with quad cores dies down when I see the lack of a S-pen on these devices. If the Note didn't exist, and if I still owned that awesome SGS2, I would have sold it to get the next powerful device like the HTC One X.
But noooo, now the only thing I look for is the availability of a S-Pen or similar device, and a screen as big as the Note. If it doesn't come with either, I can't seem to get myself to care about it. Anyone else stuck in this strange trap?
I agree with you 100%
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
i hate my note
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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Note 2 of course
Very true!
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I love being trapped, saves me a lot of timing keeping up with all the news about newer and faster devices and having to decide which one to buy next and when. Now i just have to wait for the note2. No hurry btw, love the note a it is.
Now let's just hope no other manufacturer come out with this screen size and making my life complicated again
Sige
The Galaxy Note needs better screen drivers. The rendering of near-black pixels is awful and the S-pen is not as responsive as other devices. But I would not trade it for any other device right now.
The mobile devices are following the steps of the PCs with the MHz race, which lead to CPUs disipating 120W and needing huge and noise fans. I no longer consider the CPU / GPU / 4G radio when examining a new device.
Like in the PC world, it's OK if you're into gaming and want to load the newest games on your device, but for 90% of the people, they won't see the difference between a dual-core and quad-core. (Recently the boys from Gizmodo gave a few Ipad 2 to reviewers saying that they were Ipad 3, and they provided feedback as such).
But a quad-core CPU, multi-core GPU, has it's impact on battery, weight and running temperature. The same that happened on PCs. It stopped making sense once the CPU was dissipating 120 W.
The same for 4G / LTE / Whatever are now talking about that's 1 Gbps. What sense does make a 50 Mps connection when you're limited to 1 or 2 GB a MONTH?
At 50 Mps you can only use the connection 3 MINUTES before reaching your data cap. This is not serious people, this is just marketing buzz for people that's technically illiterate and cannot make the most simple calculations.
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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Only one I know of, some low end company.
I think everyone else was waiting to see how well the note did before jumping to bigger screens. It makes sense given the number of bad reviews the note gets.
I think now that they hit the 5 million mark, we're going to see a lot more larger phones. I'm not convinced there is a large market for the stylus though.
The only phone that meets my requirements is the Note. I liked the S2, but the Note is a much more versatile device. I'm a photographer, and the Note is a truly photographer-friendly device. My next phone will be a Note 2, and I'm in no hurry for that.
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Tegra 3 it's not a quad-core CPU, it has 5 cores. The fifth core is active when the phone is "sleeping" or with low demanding tasks, in order to save energy. Early reports indicate that One X's battery behaviour is quite good, but none official review is out yet, so it's premature to judge it (unless, of course, you're a samsung fanboy).
I'm going to get a HTC One X in the next 2 weeks, but that doesn't diminuish my urge to get a Galaxy Note. IMO, Note can't be compared to any other phone, it's on a league of it's own. If the biiiig size isn't a problem for you or the issues with the screen, get a Note. It'll do everything One X or SGIII do, only in a BIGGER way!
I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
htc one out in the wild ...hmmm..not that impressed
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/03/htc-one-s-for-t-mobile-caught-on-camera/
Just the other day when i was driving in the mud in the forest with my atv, A stick pierced my plastic shield that covers the braking cylinder. I took up my note, Took a picture and sketched on the image how the plastic was attached and what size it was. Sent the picture in like 2 minutes. Got an email back from the workshop that they have cut out that part in metal and was ready to be picked up.
So on my way home from the ATV run i picked up the piece just a couple of hours later and it fits perfectly.
That is the first time i really feelt how awesome the S pen function really was.
Now i might not have needed that part so fast, but it sure was sweet having it done so fast while driving in the woods and with such ease!
Before i even bought this phone i was like wtf do i need a stylus for, Its so Xperia X1 and that phone sucked. But i find it useful atleast a couple days a week!
Feel the same - although for me it's the screen size that keeps me from other devices. Never smaller than 5,3".
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I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
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I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
Yep, i need the Spen cause i'm an illustrator. All other phones are just phones.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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What!?!
I beg your pardon?
For all I know (I. e. Experience) HTC is well known for their tiny batteries on every device currently! And if specs don't change, even new devices too!
For me battery size and performance is a must and after the Note (screen size and SPen aside) I don't see any device capable of getting me through an entire day on a single charge with heavy use.
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after galaxy S III realized I will post my phone on ebay right away.
Like I always do.
Moandal said:
I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
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I know, isn't it ironic that the "it's too big for daily use" argument is put forth mostly by people who have never used it daily?
I dont care about the 4g. My only concern in performance, overheating and application/customization support.
Which processor i should go for. Also I have heard Snapdragon 800 has a huge difference in terms of performance should i wait for that
I am not a heavy gamer(actually i mostly play 2D games) but smoothness in daily tasks and multitasking is really important for me in a smartphone.
Thanks for your answers.
Wait 10 years for the i980000, I hear that's the one to get
But seriously... just buy the phone you want now. If you always wait for the better phone you will be waiting forever, this technology moves fast, and the i9500 and i9505 are both very good phones.
If you want the most custom ROM support go for the i9505.
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I dont care about the 4g. My only concern in performance, overheating and application/customization support.
Which processor i should go for. Also I have heard Snapdragon 800 has a huge difference in terms of performance should i wait for that
I am not a heavy gamer(actually i mostly play 2D games) but smoothness in daily tasks and multitasking is really important for me in a smartphone.
Thanks for your answers.
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Get one that meet your needs. Go try it out in stores or from friends. If current S4 / GF / Wife suit what u need, then grab / treasure it.
No ending to get the best faster phones / biggest boobs.. Be contented and u will always be happy!!:good:
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Get one that meet your needs. Go try it out in stores or from friends. If current S4 / GF / Wife suit what u need, then grab / treasure it.
No ending to get the best faster phones / biggest boobs.. Be contented and u will always be happy!!:good:
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but guys Snapdragon 600 and 800 difference is sooo huge. I am tempted to get my hands on the 800 instead of 600 and think will regret if I buy i9505 instead of waiting for couple of months for the 9506.
BTW how is the battery life and the heating issues going on? are they fully resolved.
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but guys Snapdragon 600 and 800 difference is sooo huge. I am tempted to get my hands on the 800 instead of 600 and think will regret if I buy i9505 instead of waiting for couple of months for the 9506.
BTW how is the battery life and the heating issues going on? are they fully resolved.
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By the time you've waited for the i9506, the i9507 might be out soon, and by the time that comes out the next flagships will only be a few months away. Its exactly the same with PC hardware, if you wait for a new release you pay more and by that time the new releases won't be far off.
If you want a phone now, the i9505 is an excellent phone, if you can wait then go for it.
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I dont care about the 4g. My only concern in performance, overheating and application/customization support.
Which processor i should go for. Also I have heard Snapdragon 800 has a huge difference in terms of performance should i wait for that
I am not a heavy gamer(actually i mostly play 2D games) but smoothness in daily tasks and multitasking is really important for me in a smartphone.
Thanks for your answers.
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Well if you wait for i9506 it means less battery life by increasing performance... And all the apps and the os itself just don't stop there when it comes to performance.
In the end a smartphone should just be capable of doing daily usages without any performance issues but it'd be seem unlikely a.t.m.
The lighter the better and bigger the screen the better while keeping dimensions to acceptable level.
I certainly think the technology is there and it'll add to the cost to produce in current terms.
Or they'd rather bring out something extra ordinary and affordable by everyone's budget.
That's something for thought.
One of the coolest feature of S4 would be the use of S Band
http://www.expansys.com.au/samsung-..._productfeed&gclid=CJ-QscrZxbgCFc1bpQodElMADA
and
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s4-heart-rate-monitor-p38709.htm
thanks for the answers guys
"Android Beat reports that the Snapdragon 800 includes improvements to
battery life. Under the same strain, devices equipped with the new processor
will last 25% longer than Snapdragon 600 devices before needing to be
charged. ... Aside from improvements to battery life, Geek expects that devices will run much cooler under strain, reporting that playing games for thirty minutes had no impact on temperature. They also point out that their Snapdragon 800 test device loads large apps lightning fast. In addition, the Snapdragon 800 raises mobile computing performance enough to allow a new level of gaming on mobile devices."
-cpscentral.com (cpscentral. com/us-samsung-gt-i9506-release-draws-near)
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I would also consider the lg g2. Also a beast phone
Me Gusta!
Android phones are popping out like everyday just stick with the one you like and enjoy it. It don't no matter what you get there's always gonna be something better in the weeks to come. The pace these phones are popping out is insane. I'll stick with the s4 or the note 3 and keep it moving.
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The Oneplus Two might be getting some competition!
The name of said device is... the HTC Hima!
http://bgr.com/2014/12/04/htc-hima-release-date-and-specs/
Specs:
5-inch Full HD display
Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 SoC containing a 2.0GHz quad-core processor and a 1.5GHz quad-core processor
3GB of RAM
20.7-megapixel camera
13-megapixel or UltraPixel front-facing camera
VoLTE/CA/LTE Cat. 6 support
2,840 mAh battery
Android 5.0 Lollipop with HTC Sense 7.0 on top.
These guts would probably get some impressive power out of a 4k device. The fact that they're in a 1080p device....it's going to be setting some serious records in the benchmarks, I can tell you that. It's about time someone realized that 4k is pointless for a screen that size.
That being said, why am I posting this here? Let me explain...As of December 2014, the Oneplus One is the hottest recent device on xda. The device really isn't even released yet, yet countless developers have already adopted it. Check for yourself; nothing else has the amount of xda developers, roms, and kernels the OPO has right now. That, in of itself, is its killer feature. You know, along with the excellent specs. It's a very nice, device, and I'm very happy with it.
THAT being said, is a device as freakishly powerful as the HTC Hima something that would make you forget your OPO? Would it even get your attention? Discuss!
What about one plus two? I'm sure they will make it comparable to other phones of that era. I myself would stick with something like opo or opt I guess (one plus two lol) or nexus for the ease and flexibility of root and customization
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But at what cost?
HTC and their small battery size
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HTC and their small battery size
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Meaning what? I get 5+ hours of SOT on my M8 with its puny 2600mah battery!
Sense is very well optimized and so is the GPE version.
Is it? That battery on this this is one thing I'm worried about. On top of, you know, everything else they could possibly screw up.
All this mystery makes me excited to see what Oneplus and HTC do with their upcoming devices. And... how much each will cost. :fingers-crossed:
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What about one plus two? I'm sure they will make it comparable to other phones of that era. I myself would stick with something like opo or opt I guess (one plus two lol) or nexus for the ease and flexibility of root and customization
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New tagline: Opt in for a One plus Two!
I'm intrigued. I would love to go back to HTC but their ultra pixel crap has been putting me off since the M7. I loved my One X that was a fine device and Sense is a really nice UI. HTC do produce good phones so let's see what this beast fruits too.
ill buy this htc instantly if the specs are true.
No thanks, will wait for 815 or 820 or 810 version without heating problems.
I won't ever EVER buy any mobile device over 1080p until it established in the desktop / media area. If you watch a 1080p movie on a screen with different pixel scaling then you get blur because the pixels have the wrong format to display a single 1080p pixel. Beside of that 1080p is really enough atm on mobiles. And lower res means less hardware usage.