The main feature off lollipop and sony chooses to ignore it.
Let's all start the digging
That is terrible news :<
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Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .
OK the xperiablog.net report says no raw support for 3rd party cameras as yet. Can anyone confirm the same for the inbuilt camera
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mariojuniorjp said:
Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .
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Really, Samsung don't have it, LG don't have it either. Or has that changed?
sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
ogyct said:
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Isn't fixed. Source from the other lollipop thread here
ogyct said:
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Nope not fixed.
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But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?
zetrri said:
But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?
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No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php
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No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
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I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?
meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.
Would have been nice to have to play around with and to show off to my iPhone friend . In the end it all depends on your point of view. Compared to smartphone camera a few years ago the Z3c is amazing. I've made some beautiful shots with it. And compared to a "real" camera all smartphones are garbage (except maybe Nokia?).
So for me the camera is perfect. I don't want to make a photography album with my pictures I want to have a quick shooter to capture some memories. And with the auto mode and the dedicated button the Z3c is exactly what I need.
It's frustrating because the camera hardware in the phone isn't being utilized to its full potential. Yes, it's fine for the average user, but for some, and I think many on this forum share this mindset - we try to get the most out of our devices. Not tapping into our camera's full potential is like leaving our device unrooted - it's neutered.
pepeo123 said:
Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
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The main difference between the S6 and the Z3 being that the S6 is running Lollipop out of the box, where the Z3 is running Kit Kat. Implementing the Camera2 API is a lot more work than just porting the legacy firmware on Lollipop. That's why all OEMs chose to port their old firmware and stop here.
ilgreco112 said:
meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.
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Ok mystic meg
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pepeo123 said:
sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.
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S6 does bit have RAW in their official camera app. Nor do they have manual shutter speed etc in their camera app.
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adamk7 said:
I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?
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HTC use a Toshiba Sensor.
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criscodecookies said:
No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php
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the funny thing is, I tried snapchat today, and the front camera does not soften the skin.
I guess there is a way but I'm no developer so I cant check or try.
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Hello,
you can make a porting the application camera Xperia Z2 5 on a Galaxy S?
Sorry for my bad english
Tzuinholo said:
Hello,
you can make a porting the application camera Xperia Z2 5 on a Galaxy S?
Sorry for my bad english
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It most likely won't happen. System apps by oems usually rely on the framework which makes it really hard to port. Is there something u liked on the Xperia z2 camera?
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luigi311 said:
It most likely won't happen. System apps by oems usually rely on the framework which makes it really hard to port. Is there something u liked on the Xperia z2 camera?
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I understand, The timeshift video is amazing! I wish I can use it in my phone. :fingers-crossed:
Yes! same thing I want for my S5. Maybe there is an app similar to that but I did not find anything yet
I hope the xperia in porting the app, but I'd settle for an app very similar
luigi311 said:
It most likely won't happen. System apps by oems usually rely on the framework which makes it really hard to port. Is there something u liked on the Xperia z2 camera?
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Hmm how come lenovo camera and lg camera are possible?
timeshift function... could someone explain why is it that important to use? I highly doubt that anyone would be constantly using it after couple of times of shooting vids with it.
First of all is a new feature in smartphones that allows you to make beautiful and funny videos.
Second, it's good that it is a vital function, but if there why not use it?
And third, if the hardware is pretty much the same because they can not have a similar software?
I personally used it several times, although I'm not very happy with the effect it has in low light circumstances and the quality is too low in my opinion.
After searching and searching por an application to, for example do the thing I like in timeshift ( Slow down only part of a video) I found, Android Studio. Of course is not the same but I least I can do that. It will be great to have Timeshift directly, but in the meantime I'm using that. I hope you guys can check it out
hi guys,
if one of you can get hold of the z5, can you please post the result with this camera functionality test?
thxx a lot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test&hl=fr
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nocomp said:
hi guys,
if one of you can get hold of the z5, can you please post the result with this camera functionality test?
thxx a lot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test&hl=fr
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Features everything except RAW.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6LHRhWfWOxI
Brilliant!!!!
thx a lot,
i think we can survive without raw but not without the others functions
Was hoping for RAW support
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Was hoping for RAW support
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Me too... sad for us, that even with this premium flagship the software is only getting near of the modded ones that we have, made by starters in programming, instead of sony engineers.
Hope this year for real camera and not another self proclaimed one again.
I don't care for Raw support as much. Just wanted decent manual controls, ideally like the G4 has. Hopefully it does, if so I'll be back to Sony, first one since the xperia Arc.
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Z5 doesn't support:
Manual White Balance
RAW support
http://static.xperiablog.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Xperia-Z5-Manual-Camera-Settings-640x437.png
punkmonkey1984 said:
I don't care for Raw support as much. Just wanted decent manual controls, ideally like the G4 has. Hopefully it does, if so I'll be back to Sony, first one since the xperia Arc.
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geduxaz said:
Z5 doesn't support:
Manual White Balance
RAW support
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Full crash, manual camera, we cant do anything need maj plz
A lot function of this app crashes on Z5. They'll have to update it. Also, I couldn't find any manual shutter speed?
I tried this app last week, shutter mode doesn't really do anything. Also, it fc alot, uninstalled
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Hi,
I have one question:
Is any option to have the camera application from sony? I mean this same like xperia z3?
I think we have to wait until development of roms comes then maybe someone port xperia camera app to a aosp rom or something.
I have a xperia ultra with HybridRom on it and Uncle Lucifer(the developer of the rom) ported camera app to the rom.
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wilu85 said:
Hi,
I have one question:
Is any option to have the camera application from sony? I mean this same like xperia z3?
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Yes, buy a Z3!
the sony camera app is build and copyright by sony! there is no legal way to get this app without buying the sony phones.
The sensor is pretty good, but the software is pretty bad. The sensor is also capable of filming slow motion @ 120fps, but the slomo feature is definitely not filming at 120 - hope there's an alternative to use this feature correctly
I know a lot of you have been waiting for a better Camera UI.
Finally in the latest Android 6 Beta, there is a new camera UI, which they will be improving on!
Superior Auto still only has an 8MP option Hopefully they will improve upon that.
The UI is the same as the Z5 Camera, with a few improvements to suit the Z3C (Improvements / downgrades )
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Finally in the latest Android 6 Beta, there is a new camera UI, which they will be improving on!
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Are you talking about the MM beta that came out in early March and made its way to XDA around March 13th?
varxx said:
Are you talking about the MM beta that came out in early March and made its way to XDA around March 13th?
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Yes, sorry forgot to mention this is the Marshmallow Sony Concept ^^
Just new UI, no API2
can someone port it to stock lollipop?
So it's just a change of interface, or there is also a performance upgrade to the camera?
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So it's just a change of interface, or there is also a performance upgrade to the camera?
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They said that they will focus on improving the Camera from now on. Hopefully they are fixing the bad Image Processing
BloodEdge said:
Just new UI, no API2
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What is the API2 ? and what are the improvements on the current API on z3c?
arakhan said:
What is the API2 ? and what are the improvements on the current API on z3c?
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the most important thing... manual controls, ALL OF THEM
nzzane said:
I know a lot of you have been waiting for a better Camera UI.
Finally in the latest Android 6 Beta, there is a new camera UI, which they will be improving on!
Superior Auto still only has an 8MP option Hopefully they will improve upon that.
The UI is the same as the Z5 Camera, with a few improvements to suit the Z3C (Improvements / downgrades )
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I seriously doubt they will change that, but there are mods, which does what you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...z1-z4-z5-camera-1-0-unlocked-20-23mp-t3335412
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-xperia-camera-unlocked-t3071161
Crazy Guy said:
They said that they will focus on improving the Camera from now on. Hopefully they are fixing the bad Image Processing
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Well from what I have seen Sonys image processing is not that bad at all, it is quite the opposite, check this thread and you will see what I mean:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/camera-picture-samples-unlock-t2898606
With that being said, there are camera mods available which will use the camera processing libraries from the Z5 on Z3 Compact as well, but I wouldn't expect Sony to improve the camera quality on a phone which is over 1 years old, that seems very unlikely in my opinon....
But you can flash these camera-mods by yourself, I haven't tried these myself, so I can't tell if it's how it's working (not sure about if works with Marsmallow either);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...-xperia-z5-premium-camera-libs-files-t3260819
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after this update (MMB29M.Z1.3555) i cannot record video. it says:
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Cannot record video. Recording or function connected with recording could be used by another app.
Any idea how to solve this issue?
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after this update (MMB29M.Z1.3555) i cannot record video. it says:
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Cannot record video. Recording or function connected with recording could be used by another app.
Any idea how to solve this issue?
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I have the same issue. A workaround that will allow you to record video is to disable Google Now 'Ok Google' detection on any screen.
alibabzo said:
I have the same issue. A workaround that will allow you to record video is to disable Google Now 'Ok Google' detection on any screen.
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thank you! it works
I know some devs have succesfully ported pixel camera for nexus devices to allow HDR+. Is it possible to do the same for the LGV20 so that we can also expirience that HDR+ software?
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I know some devs have succesfully ported pixel camera for nexus devices to allow HDR+. Is it possible to do the same for the LGV20 so that we can also expirience that HDR+ software?
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So this question really irked me, in a good way of course. Whilst studying for my history exam, I was thinking that HDR+ is essentially software based. The Pixel's camera's specs are kinda mediocre aside from the 1.55um sensor—only f2.0 aperture and no OIS; the best part about the camera is the software to back it all up. So, I looked around to see if you could potentially port the camera app itself, which might have the correct algorithm for HDR+. I came across a dev who made the app Camera NX, which in essence is a port.
So here is a brief overview of the app.
And here he explains how the HDR+ has zero shutter lag.
What really got my attention is the following quote:
This mod is just an update to Chow's Camera NX app, which itself is a port of the Pixel's stock camera app and libraries. What that all boils down to is that you don't even need to be rooted to get Zero Shutter Lag with HDR+ mode right now.
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Anyways, since I do not own an LG V20 (I hope to soon, once my Note 4 contract expires), you'll have to do most of the testing and report back, if that's alright. Nonetheless, I hope this was helpful!
Thanks for the reply. I did come across that apk and installed it. It does work as a camera but unfortunatly there is no HDR+ present. There is exposure setting and whitebalance toggles. The other problem i notice is that the slow motion seems worse quality then what is found on the stock app. By all means i am no expert bit if any one else has feedback or have tested this themselves and see improovements or HDR+ present let us all know.
Unfortunately I haven't found Google Camera to work on the V20;it works good on the note 5 though...weird. Stinks because there is no option to make photo-spheres with the V20 .
scrap that. I just downloaded the latest from xda...no problems!
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Unfortunately I haven't found Google Camera to work on the V20;it works good on the note 5 though...weird. Stinks because there is no option to make photo-spheres with the V20 .
scrap that. I just downloaded the latest from xda...no problems!
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Where did you get it?
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https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.google.android.GoogleCameraMOD
Thats the link I used, I just realised it was a modified version of Google Camera from the new Pixels!
Kudos to Mishaal Rahman!
Photo spheres come out fantastic with the V20!
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https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.google.android.GoogleCameraMOD
Thats the link I used, I just realised it was a modified version of Google Camera from the new Pixels!
Kudos to Mishaal Rahman!
Photo spheres come out fantastic with the V20!
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Unfortunately with that app there's still no HDR+, and no UHD video recording.
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Unfortunately with that app there's still no HDR+, and no UHD video recording.
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Yes,
No HDR+
HwaA18 said:
the best part about the camera is the software to back it all up. So, I looked around to see if you could potentially port the camera app itself, which might have the correct algorithm for HDR+. I came across a dev who made the app Camera NX, which in essence is a port. !
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actually the hexagon dsp on the snapdragon 820/821 does the heavy lifting for hdr+ which works different between the pixels and the 5x/6p. the latter ones only can do software hdr+. there was an interesting post on reddit about this. currently also searching for a modified google camera app as camera nx is only modified for the nexus phones. the lg g5 and v20 are very much capable of what the pixel does.
It probably isn't as simple as that. But have you tried changing the build.prop to identify the phone as a pixel?
I can't try myself as I don't have root access.
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qualifyordie said:
Unfortunately I haven't found Google Camera to work on the V20;it works good on the note 5 though...weird. Stinks because there is no option to make photo-spheres with the V20 .
scrap that. I just downloaded the latest from xda...no problems!
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You can easily ,ake photo-spheres installing and using Google's Street View app
I tried in a recent trip to Mexico and I was amazed by the quality.
kbrn said:
You can easily ,ake photo-spheres installing and using Google's Street View app
I tried in a recent trip to Mexico and I was amazed by the quality.
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Photo sphere works on the regular Google camera app available on the play store, you don't need a modded version to use that feature
KUSOsan said:
Photo sphere works on the regular Google camera app available on the play store, you don't need a modded version to use that feature
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Except Google camera app is not available in the store with stock LG V20 software.
Does anyone know if it's possible to use the pixel camera mod with the wide angle lens? I'm not sure how you would put the ability to switch from regular to wide in the app but is there any way to have it default to the wide angle lens instead of the regular one?
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Does anyone know if it's possible to use the pixel camera mod with the wide angle lens? I'm not sure how you would put the ability to switch from regular to wide in the app but is there any way to have it default to the wide angle lens instead of the regular one?
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There are reports of the app using the wide lens and for others it uses the regular narrow one. For me on my h918 it uses the regular narrow lens. There is no button for switching like on the stock LG camera so as of right now I'm not aware of any way to switch between them.
I've found nice GCam mode suitable for V20