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4.1.A.0.562's camera performance

they didn't give us the botton to switch the iso
how can they treated us like this
i just had have high expectation on them,now i'm so disappointed
and how's everyone's thought of the new camera apk
the size of those photos really improved,but i just can't distinguish the 2.3.4 & 4.0.3 's photos which has the better resolution

ISO switch is either not implemented in camera driver or the sensor simply doesn't support manual ISO switching.

Do you mean that the sensor itself doesn't have the ability to be changed its iso by user?

Correct.

The camera performance is better after the ICS update, though the JPEG compression is still aggressive and that's never something good. I mean, zoom in after you have snapped one picture and the loss of details is horrible.
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Ive had a few phones sony phones now and as far as i know you could neva have changed the ISO level, my xperia pro doesn't and my x10 mini pro didn't ether, i didn't even know it was possible on a phone, out of a matter of interest what phones support this?

manual ISO setting
Hello,
I think with the App CameraFV-5 you will be able to change ISO-settings manual.
But i don´t regognize any diffenerent in the Pictures.
Best Peter

Macro is also removed, isn't it?
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Flo95 said:
Macro is also removed, isn't it?
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yes,they removed the micro focus selection but it will appear in auto mode when you get close to something , it does not so bother me at all

cbek said:
Ive had a few phones sony phones now and as far as i know you could neva have changed the ISO level, my xperia pro doesn't and my x10 mini pro didn't ether, i didn't even know it was possible on a phone, out of a matter of interest what phones support this?
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Xperia S have this feature !!
So i thought the ICS update would give us the ISO selection

charlesfu4 said:
Xperia S have this feature !!
So i thought the ICS update would give us the ISO selection
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Of course Xperia S has a totally different camera hardware-wise and it is an entirely different story firmware-wise...

charlesfu4 said:
Xperia S have this feature !!
So i thought the ICS update would give us the ISO selection
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The Exmor R sensor is improved and newer on the Xperia S, that's why it supports the manual ISO-feature, specially camera driver softwarewise, compared to the Arc S.
It sucks though that the macro mode is removed, Arc S macro setting is one piece of fantastic eyegasm on real close-up shots!
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how about video recording ?
I noticed they are so laggy, already you can find some tests on youtube made by an italian forum boy.
it's a bug i think, ram management isn't releted to video recording, and in ics the system could be slower, but the cpu is the same and the gpu also
so, why not smooth video ?

I had high hopes that ICS will improve the camera, these reports are a big dissapointment.

dani31 said:
I had high hopes that ICS will improve the camera, these reports are a big dissapointment.
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Then we're 2 about that. The improvement is there, but not at the level that I (and many others) hoped for..
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charlesfu4 said:
yes,they removed the micro focus selection but it will appear in auto mode when you get close to something , it does not so bother me at all
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Yeah, but I use normal mode and chose the stuff like macro on my own, that's impossible now
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The camera performance is not good on my Arc. I'm hoping it's because I'm using Arc S software on my Arc but the ISO seems to be locked on crazy high.
Looking back at pictures taken on 2.3 seems to be most commonly between 80 and 160. On ICS it's defaulting to the region of 320 with the lowest I've managed to get it being 160 (and that was using night scenery mode) and sometimes going up to ISO-800 taking a normal picture indoors in descent lighting! Something dodgey is going on here.
Someone needs to somehow come up with a fix to sort out it's mental auto-ISO settings.

Flo95 said:
Yeah, but I use normal mode and chose the stuff like macro on my own, that's impossible now
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Me too,it sucks that they removed a good feature..why did they anyways?

maRRRco89 said:
how about video recording ?
I noticed they are so laggy, already you can find some tests on youtube made by an italian forum boy.
it's a bug i think, ram management isn't releted to video recording, and in ics the system could be slower, but the cpu is the same and the gpu also
so, why not smooth video ?
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I didn't notice this flaw until you mentioned it
Truely,when I was recording the car's movement,I could easily find it moved not so smooth just like there's a traffic jam
And I was surprised to know that the frame is only 26fps

Hope Sony rectifies these issues and fix them in upcoming ICS update for Xperia arc

[Q] Xperia z2 camera on Samsung Galaxy S 5

Hello,
you can make a porting the application camera Xperia Z2 5 on a Galaxy S?
Sorry for my bad english

Tzuinholo said:
Hello,
you can make a porting the application camera Xperia Z2 5 on a Galaxy S?
Sorry for my bad english
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It most likely won't happen. System apps by oems usually rely on the framework which makes it really hard to port. Is there something u liked on the Xperia z2 camera?
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luigi311 said:
It most likely won't happen. System apps by oems usually rely on the framework which makes it really hard to port. Is there something u liked on the Xperia z2 camera?
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I understand, The timeshift video is amazing! I wish I can use it in my phone. :fingers-crossed:

Yes! same thing I want for my S5. Maybe there is an app similar to that but I did not find anything yet

I hope the xperia in porting the app, but I'd settle for an app very similar

luigi311 said:
It most likely won't happen. System apps by oems usually rely on the framework which makes it really hard to port. Is there something u liked on the Xperia z2 camera?
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Hmm how come lenovo camera and lg camera are possible?

timeshift function... could someone explain why is it that important to use? I highly doubt that anyone would be constantly using it after couple of times of shooting vids with it.

First of all is a new feature in smartphones that allows you to make beautiful and funny videos.
Second, it's good that it is a vital function, but if there why not use it?
And third, if the hardware is pretty much the same because they can not have a similar software?
I personally used it several times, although I'm not very happy with the effect it has in low light circumstances and the quality is too low in my opinion.

After searching and searching por an application to, for example do the thing I like in timeshift ( Slow down only part of a video) I found, Android Studio. Of course is not the same but I least I can do that. It will be great to have Timeshift directly, but in the meantime I'm using that. I hope you guys can check it out

Camera quality

Hi everyone, I've been reading around a bit about the Z2 camera and I'm finding some very conflicting opinions. GSMarena did a camera shootout not too long ago for which I'm pretty sure the Z2 came last or at least did horribly. (http://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout-review-1104.php) What makes this interesting is that DXOmark (http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Sony-...ed-model-takes-first-place-in-Mobile-rankings) did a review on the Z2 camera and it scored quite highly. Am I missing something here? I don't think the stills are amazing to be honest and I mostly use superior auto. Is superior auto just garbage?

Camera has been improved with the new 4.4.4 Android update.Second of all,yes - Superior Auto is complete crap to be honest.The real deal is shooting in Manual Mode.So you need to play with the camera options abit to achieve the shot you want to see.Apart of that i don't beleave that the scores from dxomark are true.Sony has a crappy software (we all know that),so if u have time to shoot something - do it on manual. You will be surprised with the results.Use superior when u need to take a fast shot only.

effective said:
Camera has been improved with the new 4.4.4 Android update.Second of all,yes - Superior Auto is complete crap to be honest.The real deal is shooting in Manual Mode.So you need to play with the camera options abit to achieve the shot you want to see.Apart of that i don't beleave that the scores from dxomark are true.Sony has a crappy software (we all know that),so if u have time to shoot something - do it on manual. You will be surprised with the results.Use superior when u need to take a fast shot only.
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Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.

mimahitna said:
Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.
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Well you can try by yourself and decide which one fits you the best..Personaly i use the stock app using Manual mode.Other good apps are Camera 51 , ProCapture camera , LGcamera. Try them and decide. Cheers :highfive:

effective said:
Well you can try by yourself and decide which one fits you the best..Personaly i use the stock app using Manual mode.Other good apps are Camera 51 , ProCapture camera , LGcamera. Try them and decide. Cheers :highfive:
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Thanks man.

I have to admit this the Z2 is horrible under use of Superiour Auto however manual mode with correct settings, this camera will eat others
I recomend using the stock camera

Envious_Data said:
I have to admit this the Z2 is horrible under use of Superiour Auto however manual mode with correct settings, this camera will eat others
I recomend using the stock camera
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Hi.
Where i can find a guide like that?
Because i try to use my camera with superior auto and the taken pics doesn't look good.

avercros said:
Hi.
Where i can find a guide like that?
Because i try to use my camera with superior auto and the taken pics doesn't look good.
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I dont know of any guides
Try googling words you dont know such as:
Exposure
ISO
Metering
White balance
Anything else you dont understand
I usualy like to use these settings:
ISO400(always)
Metering: Spot or multi
2MP size
Apropriate exposure and white balance
Flash i try to keep off

Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
Just see.
My opinion: currently Z2 Camera is amazing, in Manual Mode.
Recommended.
See more on my Flickr, here is the example:
Luzern bridge by doministry, on Flickr

mimahitna said:
Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.
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Sony only pretends to allow other apps to take control of for example ISO (FV-5 Camera comes up in my mind in particular), but doesn't do so. The onyl camera, which really can use manual settings like ISO from user is crappy Sony Camera app unfortunately. We should all pray for Sony not screwing up 5.0 update with all it' new camera APIs being open.

So it seems to be unanimous that superior auto is crap, I'll start using manual then from now on
Thanks guys!

No raw support lollipop> Sony's nailed there coffin:(

The main feature off lollipop and sony chooses to ignore it.
Let's all start the digging

That is terrible news :<
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Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .

OK the xperiablog.net report says no raw support for 3rd party cameras as yet. Can anyone confirm the same for the inbuilt camera
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mariojuniorjp said:
Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .
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+1

Really, Samsung don't have it, LG don't have it either. Or has that changed?

sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.

Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?

ogyct said:
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Isn't fixed. Source from the other lollipop thread here

ogyct said:
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Nope not fixed.
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But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?

zetrri said:
But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?
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No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php

criscodecookies said:
No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
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I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?

meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.

Would have been nice to have to play around with and to show off to my iPhone friend . In the end it all depends on your point of view. Compared to smartphone camera a few years ago the Z3c is amazing. I've made some beautiful shots with it. And compared to a "real" camera all smartphones are garbage (except maybe Nokia?).
So for me the camera is perfect. I don't want to make a photography album with my pictures I want to have a quick shooter to capture some memories. And with the auto mode and the dedicated button the Z3c is exactly what I need.

It's frustrating because the camera hardware in the phone isn't being utilized to its full potential. Yes, it's fine for the average user, but for some, and I think many on this forum share this mindset - we try to get the most out of our devices. Not tapping into our camera's full potential is like leaving our device unrooted - it's neutered.

pepeo123 said:
Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
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The main difference between the S6 and the Z3 being that the S6 is running Lollipop out of the box, where the Z3 is running Kit Kat. Implementing the Camera2 API is a lot more work than just porting the legacy firmware on Lollipop. That's why all OEMs chose to port their old firmware and stop here.

ilgreco112 said:
meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.
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Ok mystic meg
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pepeo123 said:
sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.
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S6 does bit have RAW in their official camera app. Nor do they have manual shutter speed etc in their camera app.
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adamk7 said:
I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?
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HTC use a Toshiba Sensor.
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criscodecookies said:
No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php
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the funny thing is, I tried snapchat today, and the front camera does not soften the skin.
I guess there is a way but I'm no developer so I cant check or try.

Z5 premium photos quality

Anyone wanna share some photos taken with the Z5 premium?

I want to buy it but the camera seems so bad.

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Anyone wanna share some photos taken with the Z5 premium?
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There you go

Thanks

Anyone else?

Some random pictures.

A little disappointed with the camera. The Nexus 6P is so much better. The Z5 Premium camera isn't really much better then the Z1 camera, at least when it comes to photo processing, still much noise in darker photos etc.

Thanks

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There you go
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Is it possible to use third party cameras? Are they limited?

Could you restate your question? please.

Castlevania said:
Could you restate your question? please.
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I mean, can we use apps other than the one that with the phone to take photos?

EMJI79 said:
I mean, can we use apps other than the one that with the phone to take photos?
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You can, sometimes it said just 8 mpx.

New app
Did the Xperia Z5 premium get (or will get) the new Camera app from Xperia XZ? This should boost a little bit the quality of some shots, with the shutter speed 1s.
I'm still considering buying the Z5 but not sure if Sony will update the above mentioned app....

zielak891 said:
Did the Xperia Z5 premium get (or will get) the new Camera app from Xperia XZ? This should boost a little bit the quality of some shots, with the shutter speed 1s.
I'm still considering buying the Z5 but not sure if Sony will update the above mentioned app....
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I think they might not. Some users sometimes get the app working on other older models

The new camera app is only for 7.0+ android os. We may get it in Dec when we receive 7.1 update.