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Evo 4g rooted before Incredible?

This is the word on the 4G forum here on XDA! Hope this soon leads to the incredible root but for now ill just be jealous.
Link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/
P.S. Thanks to anyone working on incredible root.

i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."

Darn that really sucks

mejdam said:
i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
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Boo!
When I read the news on engadget, I had the warm and fuzzies. Same android build. Same sense. CDMA radio. Rooted! What a downer!
How can we get an INC into these guys hands? I'd be willing to donate some cash if it helps.

Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA

1wayjonny said:
Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Lol not like it would hurt, that **** already full of spam and beggers haha

it was somthing in the bootloader that found that the incredible does not have. But rest assured that its bieng worked on and im sure we will have root.

nah, it wasn't the bootloader

looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
edit: after looking on the website it seems as if they have done deeper work than i assumed. I believe there may be similarities in what they did and what we need. He mentions that he used his linux background and knowldge of hacking bootloaders. maybe something is in store for us unlucky incredible users

nope it has been stated that it will not work for us. And it looks like my bootloader theroy is wrong..... mmmmm i wonder what it could be.

are you judging by this little footnote? "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible." - taken from grack.com . If they did anything to the bootloader i would assume an exploit can be derrived from this method. we dont need to use their entire method. From what i hear their bootloader is a higher version than ours which should make it more difficult to crack. If they ever release how they did it Im sure we can find some hope to help us.

1wayjonny said:
Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Knowledge is power and not sure what was up your rear when posting but any bit of information on semi similar phones never hurt anyone. Seeing how this isn't a post about an accessory app theme maybe could go into general but this is more of developmental news then general.

Well, I at least feel better knowing others are going through the same "pain" I am faced with. I'll donate my time and resources (I still don't have the Incredible thx to it being sold out everywhere... maybe I will try the Best Buy closest to me... although they kind of stink, they don't even carry any Apple computers while most ever other BB does) to get this fix0rz for the peeple!

Hero_Over said:
looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
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Nothing to do with test keys, no leaked images. There is no way to modify it to the incredible.

lol, I knew it was going to be rooted before, but I had some hopes it could have been used to help with the root for the Incredible. Oh well, such is life. I'm sure there are some Verizon Android developers that are still working on this....All the give me root and where's the root and other I want root spamming is not going to help with anything other than the continuous spamming of this section.
I really hate this waiting for the Unlockers/Root for any phone as it's nothing but spamming.
Just be patient and it will come. Then it's time for you to show your gratification to the developers for their hardwork that I'm sure most do in their spare time and not as their source of income...
[Insert some more I want root spam after this message]

Anybody have an update on unlocking the bootloader

I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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droidfreak02 said:
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.

We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.

ryanbg said:
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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pimpmaneaton said:
Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming

It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...

Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.

Walter.White said:
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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shangrila500 said:
Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.

Hints on lollipop release date!

I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.

ccheww said:
I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.

civiksi said:
Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...

ccheww said:
It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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I was hoping the very few minimal complaints I have with this phone will be fixed in lollipop. Camera for example. That lag!

Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!

mattlach said:
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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That's on Verizon lol it is so irritating though. I'm trying to remain optimistic because I really like the phone. People keep bashing it comparing it to rooted phones that have been debloated, greenified and tweaked.

mattlach said:
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Could not agree more
Actually, I wouldnt update to lollipop for a while anyhow in hopes of holding out for roooooot

How many phones have not been rooted? In my personal experience every phone I've ever owned has eventually gotten root.
G1 (HTC dream)
HTC mytouch slide
Thunderbolt
Galaxy s4
I know there's probably a bunch of phones that haven't been rooted but are there any phones with high demand for root that have not been rooted?
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.

Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...

STEV307204 said:
OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
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I feel the same way. Verizon is the ultimate decision maker which is why it makes sense that the Motorola rep said "waiting on Verizon to pick an advertisement" advertisements announce dates... So on so forth. Even if I have to wait it's okay because
I've got all. the. time. in. the. woorlddd. Don't you want some of ittt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1tEfPbC9c
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It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.

my2cents said:
Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html

wadamean said:
Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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they fixed it already
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ght-be-on-hold-because-of-a-serious-wifi-bug/

Restola said:
It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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That's what they're supposed to do.
coreywallen said:
Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Yeah, with JCase saying that Sunshine V3.0 can't support Motorola on 4.4.4, and the secure kernel crap that will block root on Lollipop, I think this phone will stay stock unless a Chinese middleman pops up again or something.

Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0

I pretty much left root behind when I got the Turbo. Moved to the share plan so I don't need the hotspot hack. I used TiBu a lot moving from phone to phone and ROM to ROM but I really didn't have much data that I had to have. Mostly when I was listening to back catalogs of Podcasts I would want to restore the app I was using so it kept my place. Now I have moved on to something different. And I did lose some game data but it was stupid stuff like Temple Run and Monsters Ate My Condo, nothing like an RPG or something. And really thats what root did for me. I am ready for 5.0.
I also think that the 5.0 update will have VoLTE. Maybe they got Google to roll it into 5.0 so instead of hitting each device individually with a VoLTE update, if they get 5.0 they will also get VoLTE (and it brings the Nexus 6 on VoLTE faster as well).

123421342 said:
Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
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What are you basing this on?

rlb81 said:
What are you basing this on?
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Chainfires detailed post on how root will more than likely (read; definitely) going to need a custom kernel to work. Kernel flashes need an unlocked bootloader. 5.0 comes with even more selinux restrictions which make any kind of exploitation harder. All in all, 5.0 is way more locked down and harder to unlock. Simply getting a root exploit without unlock is not likely

Verizon DEV Version for sale now!

Just confirmed purchase with 1 day delivery. I expect (hope) Tuesday!!!
GREAT NEWS!!!
PM me for link, XDA won't let me post a URL.
Received tracking info from Samsung just now!

Link for Dev Ed
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N915VMKEVZW
Mines on order as well. Been waiting for some more Note 4 Dev to come in stock (for a spare). Checked on the Edge and figured for another $100, why not?
Love my Note 4 Dev Ed, but the thought of something happening to it encouraged me to buy another as a backup. My luck, they'll finally come up with a Root exploit for the retail edition now.

so maybe root soon for Verizon devices ?

Wow! 800 bones. I would be just as happy (at this point) if we Verizon users could just get Lollipop!

Root probably but will anyone write vzw roms for such a rare device?

emtownsend said:
Wow! 800 bones. I would be just as happy (at this point) if we Verizon users could just get Lollipop!
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Well you be waiting awhile. Inside Samsung news. There not pushing any updates for a few months. Wish I still knew where I was reading this the other day. There new baby s6 getting all the attention.
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blazinandroid1 said:
Well you be waiting awhile. Inside Samsung news. There not pushing any updates for a few months. Wish I still knew where I was reading this the other day. There new baby s6 getting all the attention.
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Lol. Yup...looks like it.

Hopefully we will be next with the note 4 and s5 getting it now.

Mistake

I posted this elsewhere...
I rooted using twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.1-trltetmo.img.tar via Odin 3.07, and installing UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.16.zip from the SD .
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YAY! mine just got here today. looking for that CWM thread now lol. Sadly it doesnt come prerooted lol but it was sure nice seeing the "Developer Device" tag under my battery. at least i dont think it is already rooted, downloading SU as i type this so i'll have an answer to that in a few minutes when i try root checker. but either way im going to install CWM very soon i hope and maybe we will get a good VZW rom, heck i'd be happy just unlocking the hotspot and killing all the samsung apps at this point... that'd hold me until a suitable rom comes forward.
anywho it has been a long wait for us VZWers soooo glad we finally got this, let the apps begin! XD

NekoShinigami said:
YAY! mine just got here today. looking for that CWM thread now lol. Sadly it doesnt come prerooted lol but it was sure nice seeing the "Developer Device" tag under my battery. at least i dont think it is already rooted, downloading SU as i type this so i'll have an answer to that in a few minutes when i try root checker. but either way im going to install CWM very soon i hope and maybe we will get a good VZW rom, heck i'd be happy just unlocking the hotspot and killing all the samsung apps at this point... that'd hold me until a suitable rom comes forward.
anywho it has been a long wait for us VZWers soooo glad we finally got this, let the apps begin! XD
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How'd it go Neko? I get mine Tuesday!
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Still trying to get root. A Samsung help person told me the bootloader was locked by default and there was no unlock method. (Posted screen cap in another thread) but that doesn't make sense. Either she didn't read my text when I said I had the developer edition or she was clearly too dumb to qualify for the job she had. There would be no point in dev editions if they were exactly like the retail versions. I think @docugod was able to root using the note 4 method but I'm waiting for his reply to make sure I read him correctly.
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Hey guys I did get root. I posted exactly how...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3070197
and I am on the Dev edition...
NekoShinigami said:
Still trying to get root. A Samsung help person told me the bootloader was locked by default and there was no unlock method. (Posted screen cap in another thread) but that doesn't make sense. Either she didn't read my text when I said I had the developer edition or she was clearly too dumb to qualify for the job she had. There would be no point in dev editions if they were exactly like the retail versions. I think @docugod was able to root using the note 4 method but I'm waiting for his reply to make sure I read him correctly.
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Anyone have one of these they want to sell? Been looking everywhere.

Anyone?

Root (DROID)

Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?

ThisIsAGoodUsername said:
Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?
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Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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ThisIsAGoodUsername said:
Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?
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Not at all at the moment.

PiousInquisitor said:
Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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He was just asking a basic question. Did you really have to reply so meanly to him?

With it being a Verizon Droid brand, there's a good chance the answer is never. Probably not a lot of developers with the phone and Big Red is pretty serious about locking it down, hence the answers.

PiousInquisitor said:
Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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Actually I have looked. I have seen several sources that claim rooting this latest VZW Droid phone is trivially easy. They even post instructions on how to do it.
Now, I wasn't at first going to believe those sources, because they have some odd errors, like 1/2 way thru their instructions they start to refer to the Mot Z Force Droid as being a Samsung phone.
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.

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However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.
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Quite the opposite. If there isn't a root method on this forum, then there isn't one that works.
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WaltA said:
Actually I have looked. I have seen several sources that claim rooting this latest VZW Droid phone is trivially easy. They even post instructions on how to do it.
Now, I wasn't at first going to believe those sources, because they have some odd errors, like 1/2 way thru their instructions they start to refer to the Mot Z Force Droid as being a Samsung phone.
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.
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I've seen several sources claiming root for NON-VZW Moto Z phones (i.e.: Bootloader unlocked), I've seen none valid for VZW Droid (i.e.: Locked down like fort Knox)... Guess we have different search engines.
Wrote to Moto, no intention of unlocking it either. So unless someone finds an exploit/backdoor/Universal unlock key, you're SOL.

The current issue is that taking an update will destroy your chances of getting root. Take 0 updates until an exploit is found that will allow us root. Dirtycow/quadrooter are the only linux exploits that we might be able to get to work. Its just a matter of who. I know Jcase (https://twitter.com/jcase?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) has posted in a couple places about compiling dirtycow and even has an "Android Hacking" basics kinda PDF floating around. He has done a lot in the community (SunShine) he doesn't deserve the hate being thrown at him for not developing a root method for this one device.

daifunai said:
He was just asking a basic question. Did you really have to reply so meanly to him?
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It's the trend nowadays.
Instead of helping he posts what he did.
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Sirshark10 said:
Take 0 updates until an exploit is found that will allow us root.
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Oh. Well now I regret taking all those updates. I still doubt we'll get root on this device tho. I can only hope. It seems XDA forums has gone quiet and essentially given up on trying to root this phone, but I hope I'm wrong about that.

MOARStuff said:
Oh. Well now I regret taking all those updates. I still doubt we'll get root on this device tho. I can only hope. It seems XDA forums has gone quiet and essentially given up on trying to root this phone, but I hope I'm wrong about that.
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pretty much true

I wish that some developer would even try working on this. I myself have thought of many things and will probably create a separate post for root soon since I have a couple ideas which I feel MIGHT MAYBE work, but I need the XDA community to pitch in and help me think of a method. Like I said, I have a rough idea but it needs refining, which I can hopefully get from the community.

Moto z force jailbreak
So what you guys are saying it's inpossable to jail brake our phone? So I should just go out and get a new phone if I want to jail break it?

I was aware the when I bought my phone used that the Droid version probably wouldn't see root anytime soon but I bought it anyway because I did research online and felt the phone had good enough specs and the UI looked good and had cool features so I personally don't even need or miss having root on this phone. My reasons for rooting phones has ALWAYS been for performance tweaks with occasional UI adjustments.
My last phone was an Acend XT (H611) which before having the bootloader unlocked and flashing a debloated and tweaked stock rom it was an utter POS. I paid $50 for that Ascent XT and I liked it but performance and UI wise it doesn't even compare to the Moto Z Force. So I personally don't even miss having root.
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Alex222339 said:
So what you guys are saying it's inpossable to jail brake our phone? So I should just go out and get a new phone if I want to jail break it?
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Yeah need bootloader unlocked and Verizon won't let Lenovo Unlock our Droid version.
I am more concerned about when we will get another update for Oreo because it has problems sometimes.... I have to restart my phone once a week because the fingerprint scanner or chop for flashlight stop working or some other random bug pops up.

Damn Verizon, thets how they killed the turbo 2