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EVO's camera is garbage

Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice

I like pics i take with it

magicalan said:
not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice
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It's the software that comes with it I've tried other camera software like camera pro it snaps fast like really fast. Just that the software needs to be updated for the HTC EVO. Far as stock camera video its the software encoding sucks. The hardware is great just finding the right software or somebody develops one. Seems as if all the devs are busy rooting and tweaking the roms that HTC and Google should of done before even releasing software. Then maybe the devs can focus on making apps for us. Maybe somebody will soon develop better camera and video app that really take advantage of this great camera.
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AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you focusing the camera? Press and hold on the screen in the area you want to focus and it will focus and snap the picture. The pictures are pretty good (not DSLR quality or anything, but much better than most/all phones).

AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
2. Yes, the video quality does suck ass, but its been made a whole lot better here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808. My evo is recording at 13 mbps in h.264, and the results are fantastic. We shouldn't have to be doing this, but at least its working.

It's a phone.
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Agreed. The camera sucks.. I think it's 8 in dog megapixels.

Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back

amirborna said:
Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back
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Very true. Tons of megapixels really only help when you want to get huge prints. The two most important parts of a camera in my opinion are the image sensor and the lens, neither of which are going to be that great on any phone camera. I think the pictures the Evo takes are pretty good for a phone.

The evo camera isn't amazing... but if you need quality pictures, DON'T RELY ON YOUR PHONE. It's a ****ing phone! Get yourself a point and shoot or a DSLR.

Guys guys think about it phone cameras has came a long way from back in the early days. Soon these cameras will take the place of point and shoot. If you want better get DSLR. I have seen some great
Photos around the forum. The camera in this EVO are capable of taking great photos plus EVO has the processor to handle it more than what a point and shoot has. Soon cell phones will be getting dual cores. But until then it is this whack stock software that is processing the photos. Take the iPhone 5mp camera making the EVO picture look bad because they have a great camera software. Only if somebody can write a better camera app if I could code that would of been the first app I would of made. That and a better video conferencing app.
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Mecha2142 said:
Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
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As someone who has owned and used both the iPhone 4 and the Evo (returned my iP4 for the Evo), I can confidently say that the iP4's camera does indeed destroy the one on the Evo. I love my Evo and wouldn't switch back if you paid me, but the cameras aren't even in the same league.
The Evo takes photos which are on-par with the smartphones we've all seen and used over the last few years. They're okay. You can put the pics up on your website, etc., but I wouldn't rely on the Evo for anything particularly important. The iP4's camera, on the other hand, is just amazing. It can hold its own against any of the typical $200 - $300 non-DSLR cameras on the market and, therefore, can effectively be your everyday, walking around camera.
The best summary I can give is that the Evo's camera is a good to okay camera -- for a cell phone. The iP4's camera is a very good camera -- period.

AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you judging the fuzzy picture at first glance? By that I mean preview after your shot or in gallery? Because sometimes the picture if you don't zoom in it can look really fuzzy and then when you zoom in a title bit it corrects the picture quality and be very clear. Also download them to your pc and see how they actually turn out. You might be surprised. I am an avid amateur photographer so I use DSLR to shoot pictures. In good light the camera and software combo isn't bad. It has horrible low light capability but then again its a phone camera. And as many people said a few tweak here and there with the software and it will make a big difference. I know when they tweaked the HTC HD2 phone I had it made a world of difference. I know it will happen on this phone too. We have to let some get past the linpacks and quadrant scores for a little while before cameras become the hot topic
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the pictures aren't the greatest but i have gotten some really good ones. I attached a few. People need to quit complaining though, it's a damn phone and the quality isn't half bad, if we can make it better then so be it but it's good as it is. These are from when i took my lil sisters to the zoo we were at the butterfly garden. I didn't edit these at all and they look even better on my phone

Its inferior to other devices so actually we should complain. Sure you can get nice shots but its anything but automatic.

I don't think it's that bad. Took this picture a month ago.

I agree on both sides here...the camera is pretty decent, but I do believe software improvements can and should be made.
Hasn't it been posted here that the camera manufacturer is the same as the ip4's?

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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
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I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.

Cicatrize said:
I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.
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Exactly. I would have to say that's one of the reasons for the "megapixels aren't everything" argument. It's just a description of how many pixels the sensor can produce like you said.
If you have a bigger sensor (which is difficult in a cellphone camera obviously) like in a DSLR, you get bigger pixels. I freakin' love my new Canon Rebel T2i I just bought last week!

[Q] A Suggestion!?

Well I'm not a developer myself, but I was thinking that someone should make a (app/rom/ ADD A FEATURE) where there is zero shutter lag technology like the mt 4g slide. Idk if its possible, but its just a suggestion.
What do you think?

You can do that in your camera settings on gingerbread ROM's. It doesnt focus or anything, just takes an instant picture, still decent quality though.

lowandbehold said:
You can do that in your camera settings on gingerbread ROM's. It doesnt focus or anything, just takes an instant picture, still decent quality though.
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Sorry OP thats a feature of the MT4GS's camera and I think the Senation has instant to. Like the above poster said take off the focus for a similar experience, it's still won't be as fast or nice looking though. Considering HTC has stepped their game up in the camera department.

Nexus 4, does the camera have video stabilization?

It sooo important to me. My sgs2 does great videos, but all 100% of them look jumpy no matter how hard I try to move it smoothly. Big fail on the SGS3, but what about de nexus 4?
For me it's a deal breaker.
I hate smarthphones in general, but it's a moving camera.

orate.cl said:
I hate smarthphones in general
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Sounds like a personal issue.

ingenious247 said:
Sounds like a personal issue.
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I just use them for the camera. I love tablets thought, I'll buy the nexus 10 as soon as it goes out and I already got the Nexus 7.

orate.cl said:
It sooo important to me. My sgs2 does great videos, but all 100% of them look jumpy no matter how hard I try to move it smoothly. Big fail on the SGS3, but what about de nexus 4?
For me it's a deal breaker.
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If it does, none of the sample video I've seen so far has been taken with it turned on (kind of makes me seasick to watch it ). It's not a deal breaker for me, but it would be very nice if it were possible.

wmm said:
If it does, none of the sample video I've seen so far has been taken with it turned on (kind of makes me seasick to watch it ). It's not a deal breaker for me, but it would be very nice if it were possible.
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Yes me too, thanks for the reponse, I wish it will come with.

Doubt it, think only the iphone 4s/5 have video stabilization, and of course the new lumia 920.

Digital image stabilization is a gimmick and rarely works well. From seeing video comparisons, it basically crops the image in order to be able to compensate for the excessive movement, so the quality suffers.

Even if the stock app doesn't have digital image stabilization I'm sure it won't be long before the market app ICS+ Camera works on 4.2 (if it doesn't already already). You can just toggle stabilization in the settings.
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geoff5093 said:
Digital image stabilization is a gimmick and rarely works well. From seeing video comparisons, it basically crops the image in order to be able to compensate for the excessive movement, so the quality suffers.
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Do you know an other way to do it
But I wish I will have this choice w Google software.

I know this a technique far from being perfect yet. But last year I went travelling with my SGS2, recorded more than 200Gb in videos, recorded a LOT, but in the end, most of the videos where useless, the vibration of the walking or of my inexpert turning ruined great moments. I gotta say thought I'm pretty happy with the record quality it's a good phone, but I think it's time with all this processing power that the video get's smoothed on the fly.
Anything Android phone with this feature it's gonna be my next phone.

orate.cl said:
I just use them for the camera.
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What.
Why not use a dedicated digital camera then?
They do still exist ya know...

Perhaps not in this version of android, but being a Nexus phone, you may see it in Android 4.3/5.0 (Wherever they decide to go next) and you'll get it the day it comes out!

kcls said:
Perhaps not in this version of android, but being a Nexus phone, you may see it in Android 4.3/5.0 (Wherever they decide to go next) and you'll get it the day it comes out!
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ICS and Jellybean (4.12) has image stabilization so I don't see why they would remove the feature. So I'm going to say "yes" it will have it.
Someone asked if there was a better way of doing image stabilization and the answer is yes. The new Nokia 920 (Windows 8 phone) has optical image stabilization (the lens itself moves to compensate for any shaking). Apparently it's fantastic.
It's the same tech that's been in camcorders and camera for years. Just coming to phones now. According to the Engadget Mobile guys LG is working on their own optical image stabilization system but it's not ready yet.
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orate.cl said:
I know this a technique far from being perfect yet. But last year I went travelling with my SGS2, recorded more than 200Gb in videos, recorded a LOT, but in the end, most of the videos where useless, the vibration of the walking or of my inexpert turning ruined great moments. I gotta say thought I'm pretty happy with the record quality it's a good phone, but I think it's time with all this processing power that the video get's smoothed on the fly.
Anything Android phone with this feature it's gonna be my next phone.
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Wow 200gb? If you were going to record that excessively, you should have used a dedicated camcorder, especially since you were traveling.

If you hate smartphones in general, and only want to use it for videos, you should get the Nokia 808.

Reopening now that people got the telephone, please let me know!

In case anyone is still looking for an answer it does not appear to support image stabilization. It is not in the options for the camera app, but I decided to go one step further and check the API.
Camera.Parameter.isVideoStabilizationSupported() on my Nexus 4 returns false. So I believe this is a definitive no.

zielin said:
In case anyone is still looking for an answer it does not appear to support image stabilization. It is not in the options for the camera app, but I decided to go one step further and check the API.
Camera.Parameter.isVideoStabilizationSupported() on my Nexus 4 returns false. So I believe this is a definitive no.
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How about isImageStabilizationSupported(), if this function exists at all? IS doesn't seem working on my Nexus 4.

[LINK] Megapixel Myth: This 46" Print from the HTC One looks awesome!

Article, Androidcentral.com
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-megapixel-myth-46-print-htc-one-camera-looks-awesome

Impressive, just something else that justifies me spending $900 :-$
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13 Megapixels vs the benefits of the Ultra Pixel technology? I'll go with Ultra Pixel thank you.
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Wow, that's awesome v
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What was the title of that Sammy fanboy thread 'is this all the HTC One camera can do?'
Looks good enough to me.
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The only question i have is how did he manage to have a 5.5MB picture?

grigdush said:
The only question i have is how did he manage to have a 5.5MB picture?
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Because its a panorama image

Its a nice scene, but thats what the camera excels at, scenes. If you want to use the camera to capture the details of an event its not so good.

rovex said:
Its a nice scene, but thats what the camera excels at, scenes. If you want to use the camera to capture the details of an event its not so good.
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If the "event" is indoors or some other area that is dimly lit, the HTC is probably gonna do a better job than other higher pixel'd phone cams

Maybe, that's not always true either. It's useless at sporting events unless you just want to capture the atmosphere rather than actual action.

rovex said:
Maybe, that's not always true either. It's useless at sporting events unless you just want to capture the atmosphere rather than actual action.
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Not sure I'd be using a phone to document a sporting event...
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Thousands do..

rovex said:
Thousands do..
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Thousands also use digital zoom, it doesn't make it right.

Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.

rovex said:
Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Agree with you on this 100%

rovex said:
Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Good for you?
It has gotten a perfect picture the first time, every time for me. I am so glad that I no longer have to worry about turning on lights in my normally dark house. Maybe your phone needs a usermod? I don't need the 13mp to text a picture or post something to facebook. If I'm taking a photo I care about I'll use a real camera.

Very nice.
Oh how I can't wait for another "this camera sucks because it's not like my iPhone" thread to start rolling.
In all seriousness, this camera has consistently produced images of quality from a phone. I've printed some of them already in 4x6 and 5x7. They looked fabulous. That's damn good enough for me. :good:

I dont really take pictures in my house, I take them when out and about. Its just not got the resolution to be able to resolve objects more than 50ft away in any detail. As I said it takes nice 'scenes', but for example, at a zoo its useless, because animal invariably aren't close to you. Its useless at motor sport events because it cant resolve the cars unless you are very close to them. I took a few shot at a recent event with the One, and a few with the Nexus 10 as a comparison, and it was the N10 that gave me the best single shot!
It does work as a social media camera, which is I suppose what HTC said all along, but lets not be fanboys here, it has big limitations. Most of the shots on this site that are showing off its abilities are macros, which are nice, but frankly any phone can do that, and I was taking better ones with my N95!

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I dont really take pictures in my house, I take them when out and about. Its just not got the resolution to be able to resolve objects more than 50ft away in any detail. As I said it takes nice 'scenes', but for example, at a zoo its useless, because animal invariably aren't close to you. Its useless at motor sport events because it cant resolve the cars unless you are very close to them. I took a few shot at a recent event with the One, and a few with the Nexus 10 as a comparison, and it was the N10 that gave me the best single shot!
It does work as a social media camera, which is I suppose what HTC said all along, but lets not be fanboys here, it has big limitations. Most of the shots on this site that are showing off its abilities are macros, which are nice, but frankly any phone can do that, and I was taking better ones with my N95!
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I assure you I'm not being a fanboy.
Not the best but what I use to take real pictures. You know, like ones at the zoo. Maybe you should pick something like this up if you want to shoot events.
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T2i-Processor-3-0-inch-18-55mm/dp/B0035FZJHQ

Like most people I just want a simple point and shoot device, i dont care enough or need a $600 camera. However I do want one that takes pictures that are worthwhile having.
I wouldn't mind it only being as good as an average phone for these type of shots, but the fact that its worse than a tablet, or even an old phone is inexcusable. The fact is pretty much every 8MP camera phone takes better shots in these situations.

g3 camera has very littles camera modes and options

got the g3 yesterday and i have the g2, looking at the g3 camera ui and settings and options. there are very little to none, the g2 camera had more options and modes. i feel like they didnt even try for the camera. theres only 4 modes, dual, panorama, magic focus, and auto... if u count that.
what happen to all the other shooting modes like night, beauty shot, shot & clear, they didnt even add filters.
i hate when companys make a upgraded product but they remove other features from the last.

StreetkillnHD said:
got the g3 yesterday and i have the g2, looking at the g3 camera ui and settings and options. there are very little to none, the g2 camera had more options and modes. i feel like they didnt even try for the camera. theres only 4 modes, dual, panorama, magic focus, and auto... if u count that.
what happen to all the other shooting modes like night, beauty shot, shot & clear, they didnt even add filters.
i hate when companys make a upgraded product but they remove other features from the last.
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Sorry... But have you been under a rock? This was a well-known "feature" about the camera. Pretty much EVERY review mentions it.

Slash8915 said:
Sorry... But have you been under a rock? This was a well-known "feature" about the camera. Pretty much EVERY review mentions it.
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i did not look at much reviews, just seen a few unboxing. the camera isnt really a problem just dont get why they wouldnt add them features.
ill probably end up using a 3rd party camera app if really needed.

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i did not look at much reviews, just seen a few unboxing. the camera isnt really a problem just dont get why they wouldnt add them features.
ill probably end up using a 3rd party camera app if really needed.
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Yeah, that's what most people seem to be doing that want more manual features. Google camera seems to be a popular one.

Slash8915 said:
Yeah, that's what most people seem to be doing that want more manual features. Google camera seems to be a popular one.
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The best app by far which has access to all manual controls is 'A Better Camera'.
Google Camera is fine but like the G3's default camera app has little in the way of control.

StreetkillnHD said:
got the g3 yesterday and i have the g2, looking at the g3 camera ui and settings and options. there are very little to none, the g2 camera had more options and modes. i feel like they didnt even try for the camera. theres only 4 modes, dual, panorama, magic focus, and auto... if u count that.
what happen to all the other shooting modes like night, beauty shot, shot & clear, they didnt even add filters.
i hate when companys make a upgraded product but they remove other features from the last.
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So what is exactly your complain about? Are you aware that when LG device rings home and sends statistics of its usage then LG engineers could look into it and see what is the most used features of their product. And they can clearly see that very minority of people do make shots with dual camera, filters and all other fancy settings, instead most people just POINT and SHOOT. So why bother. Why spend precious engineers' stuff time to optimize features that will sit in the corner forever unused when LG needs to update ROMs for old devices and programmers are in need?
And for those who needs more tweaks and filters in camera settings there already plenty of 3rd party camera apps in GPlay

StreetkillnHD said:
got the g3 yesterday and i have the g2, looking at the g3 camera ui and settings and options. there are very little to none, the g2 camera had more options and modes. i feel like they didnt even try for the camera. theres only 4 modes, dual, panorama, magic focus, and auto... if u count that.
what happen to all the other shooting modes like night, beauty shot, shot & clear, they didnt even add filters.
i hate when companys make a upgraded product but they remove other features from the last.
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As mentioned above, there are a myriad of different third party camera apps for those that want something more in depth. I'm glad LG spent more time on things like ergonomics and the skin rather than the camera.
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AhsanU said:
As mentioned above, there are a myriad of different third party camera apps for those that want something more in depth. I'm glad LG spent more time on things like ergonomics and the skin rather than the camera.
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I love how minimal the camera app is it truly is point and shoot which is what a phone camera should be, if you want to go deeper than that a phone camera is not what you're looking for

LG wanted to go minimal on this whole device, the whole new UI reflects minimal and that includes the camera.

sloseph said:
I love how minimal the camera app is it truly is point and shoot which is what a phone camera should be, if you want to go deeper than that a phone camera is not what you're looking for
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Honestly, I can understand the OP's disappointment. You won't find shooting modes like the ones he listed on a DSLR camera, but you'll find it in a regular 'ole point and shoot. And since these were available in the previous version, one might expect to find it in the new version.
But again, this is the beauty of android. Download a camera application that has what you want! There are very few limitations, which is why most of us love android powered devices.
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AhsanU said:
Honestly, I can understand the OP's disappointment. You won't find shooting modes like the ones he listed on a DSLR camera, but you'll find it in a regular 'ole point and shoot. And since these were available in the previous version, one might expect to find it in the new version.
But again, this is the beauty of android. Download a camera application that has what you want! There are very few limitations, which is why most of us love android powered devices.
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its not really a disappointment as i said its not a problem nor does it bother me.
i just dont get why they wouldn't add them features back.
but any who the phone is really nice i love it its a great upgrade from there last device.
and i love how att didn't remove the theme editor this time lol

StreetkillnHD said:
its not really a disappointment as i said its not a problem nor does it bother me.
i just dont get why they wouldn't add them features back.
but any who the phone is really nice i love it its a great upgrade from there last device.
and i love how att didn't remove the theme editor this time lol
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The whole reason why there is no more night mode, I think, is because there was "intelligent Auto" mode in G2 and now its gone, too. But now IA is THE default mode of camera instead of optional while being in G2, so the camera sets itself to HDR, or night mode when appropriate based on the measured exposures and lighting conditions and dynamic range of frame
Beauty shot is probably included in frontal camera in auto mode,too.

Didn't you do any research before getting the phone ? Because the simple . Camera ui shouldn't be a surprise at this point
LG G3

Love the minimal everything on this phone. It also takes the best pictures and videos of any phone.
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should have tried it before buying it..thats like buying a car without test driving it

The g2 took horrible low light shots.... The filters are well worth the trade for this camera
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I also agree that the camera is too basic, in a good way. However, manual exposure compensation needs to be available in every camera app.

twoeleven99 said:
Didn't you do any research before getting the phone ? Because the simple . Camera ui shouldn't be a surprise at this point
LG G3
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not much just loved the g2 because of its ui and where the buttons are placed. its much better ui then the sluggish touch wiz on galaxy phones.

Somehow my touch to shoot has been turned off, i have to hit the shutter button now. Anyone know how to get it back to where i just touch the screen so it will focus and shoot?
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My bad, should have searched. Answer is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/sh...amera: Tap to focus and snap no longer works

LG made this camera for idiots who only point and take photo
Samsung so far has the best camera software, other brands should learn from the master how to do good camera app.