It sooo important to me. My sgs2 does great videos, but all 100% of them look jumpy no matter how hard I try to move it smoothly. Big fail on the SGS3, but what about de nexus 4?
For me it's a deal breaker.
I hate smarthphones in general, but it's a moving camera.
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I hate smarthphones in general
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Sounds like a personal issue.
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Sounds like a personal issue.
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I just use them for the camera. I love tablets thought, I'll buy the nexus 10 as soon as it goes out and I already got the Nexus 7.
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It sooo important to me. My sgs2 does great videos, but all 100% of them look jumpy no matter how hard I try to move it smoothly. Big fail on the SGS3, but what about de nexus 4?
For me it's a deal breaker.
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If it does, none of the sample video I've seen so far has been taken with it turned on (kind of makes me seasick to watch it ). It's not a deal breaker for me, but it would be very nice if it were possible.
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If it does, none of the sample video I've seen so far has been taken with it turned on (kind of makes me seasick to watch it ). It's not a deal breaker for me, but it would be very nice if it were possible.
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Yes me too, thanks for the reponse, I wish it will come with.
Doubt it, think only the iphone 4s/5 have video stabilization, and of course the new lumia 920.
Digital image stabilization is a gimmick and rarely works well. From seeing video comparisons, it basically crops the image in order to be able to compensate for the excessive movement, so the quality suffers.
Even if the stock app doesn't have digital image stabilization I'm sure it won't be long before the market app ICS+ Camera works on 4.2 (if it doesn't already already). You can just toggle stabilization in the settings.
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Digital image stabilization is a gimmick and rarely works well. From seeing video comparisons, it basically crops the image in order to be able to compensate for the excessive movement, so the quality suffers.
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Do you know an other way to do it
But I wish I will have this choice w Google software.
I know this a technique far from being perfect yet. But last year I went travelling with my SGS2, recorded more than 200Gb in videos, recorded a LOT, but in the end, most of the videos where useless, the vibration of the walking or of my inexpert turning ruined great moments. I gotta say thought I'm pretty happy with the record quality it's a good phone, but I think it's time with all this processing power that the video get's smoothed on the fly.
Anything Android phone with this feature it's gonna be my next phone.
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What.
Why not use a dedicated digital camera then?
They do still exist ya know...
Perhaps not in this version of android, but being a Nexus phone, you may see it in Android 4.3/5.0 (Wherever they decide to go next) and you'll get it the day it comes out!
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Perhaps not in this version of android, but being a Nexus phone, you may see it in Android 4.3/5.0 (Wherever they decide to go next) and you'll get it the day it comes out!
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ICS and Jellybean (4.12) has image stabilization so I don't see why they would remove the feature. So I'm going to say "yes" it will have it.
Someone asked if there was a better way of doing image stabilization and the answer is yes. The new Nokia 920 (Windows 8 phone) has optical image stabilization (the lens itself moves to compensate for any shaking). Apparently it's fantastic.
It's the same tech that's been in camcorders and camera for years. Just coming to phones now. According to the Engadget Mobile guys LG is working on their own optical image stabilization system but it's not ready yet.
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I know this a technique far from being perfect yet. But last year I went travelling with my SGS2, recorded more than 200Gb in videos, recorded a LOT, but in the end, most of the videos where useless, the vibration of the walking or of my inexpert turning ruined great moments. I gotta say thought I'm pretty happy with the record quality it's a good phone, but I think it's time with all this processing power that the video get's smoothed on the fly.
Anything Android phone with this feature it's gonna be my next phone.
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Wow 200gb? If you were going to record that excessively, you should have used a dedicated camcorder, especially since you were traveling.
If you hate smartphones in general, and only want to use it for videos, you should get the Nokia 808.
Reopening now that people got the telephone, please let me know!
In case anyone is still looking for an answer it does not appear to support image stabilization. It is not in the options for the camera app, but I decided to go one step further and check the API.
Camera.Parameter.isVideoStabilizationSupported() on my Nexus 4 returns false. So I believe this is a definitive no.
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In case anyone is still looking for an answer it does not appear to support image stabilization. It is not in the options for the camera app, but I decided to go one step further and check the API.
Camera.Parameter.isVideoStabilizationSupported() on my Nexus 4 returns false. So I believe this is a definitive no.
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How about isImageStabilizationSupported(), if this function exists at all? IS doesn't seem working on my Nexus 4.
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Just to start a discussion.
everyone knows N1 is capable of doing video recording on 720p.
I am just wondering, why google does not officially release such capability? Or do you think they just want user to root it and do whatever they want? Desire has it anyway.
I am so looking forward to an official 720p, if it ever happens.
Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
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Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
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Because of the lens?
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Because of the lens?
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ok, that too. ;-)
it does a really nice job @ 800xwhatever, but 720p is just too much. it starts having artifacts if there is any motion at all, and any panning/tilting turns the picture terrible. just what i've experienced.
using the latest CM6 nightly i have yet to come across any issues with it, i actually like it, but yea compare it to a real HD camera (not the Evo) but a handheld camera the 720p is crap
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using the latest CM6 nightly i have yet to come across any issues with it, i actually like it, but yea compare it to a real HD camera (not the Evo) but a handheld camera the 720p is crap
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
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Well rooted N1s and desires are able to do it. Better than what HTC gave in the official froyo update too.
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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I don't think it's the sensor. I think it has to do with how fast the phone can take data from that sensor and do something with it. It can't keep up with the camera flooding it with data at 24 FPS at 720p.
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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megapixel sensor size doesn't equate to the quality of a camera.
The hardware in the iphone4 is better than that of the nexus one.
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megapixel sensor size doesn't equate to the quality of a camera.
The hardware in the iphone4 is better than that of the nexus one.
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Yeah I knew that. I didn't know if the iPhone's hardware was better. I didn't think it was.
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It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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Aka, see Google Nexus One.
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It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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A bit better (and closer to the truth) explanation would be:
Google have X engineering "horsepower" that can only do Y stuff in a given amount of time. They can:
1) Spend more time upgrading their DEVELOPER phone capabilities (which was never intended to be anything but developer phone) for the sake of the VERY FEW customers that bought this phone while it was in commercial stage (Nexus owners are a tiny percentage of Android device owners),
2) Spend more time enhancing Android system for ALL the current and future customers of ALL phone manufacturers.
Guess which one they would prefer? Not a hard guess, right?
Yes, unfortunately, it's not the one you would prefer.
The same goes for "why not improved graphics driver", "why not improved N support", etc.
I 2nd that.I think that Google engineers are more into improving android os as a whole.
OP,didn't you notice how many updates and radios the desire has compared to ours?
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The iphone4 does 720p and movement really, really well, i was shocked, and admittedly a little jealous. When it is said that the Iphone4's "hardware" is better, is it that the I4's hardware has better quality, or does it just have better specs? In other words, the I4 doesnt have a full ghz processor right? But is it just much better quality? I dont really know what im talking about im just very interested in 720/HD recording on smartphones, definitely a prerequisite going forward...thanks
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The iphone4 does 720p and movement really, really well, i was shocked, and admittedly a little jealous. When it is said that the Iphone4's "hardware" is better, is it that the I4's hardware has better quality, or does it just have better specs? In other words, the I4 doesnt have a full ghz processor right? But is it just much better quality? I dont really know what im talking about im just very interested in 720/HD recording on smartphones, definitely a prerequisite going forward...thanks
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yeah, even when I tested the iPhone 2G camera that has 2MP sensor, it's photo quality was alot better than my Nexus. just the resolution is bigger in Nexus. and iPhone 4 has a Apple A4 1 GHZ processor, that equals almost the same CPU on Nexus but with different GPU on iPhone (PowerVR SGX). it just does it really really well.
The CPU and its main frequency has exactly nothing to do w/ video encoding, most probably. Encoding/decoding in small-scale devices is usually implemented by separate subsystems (packaged with the CPU - that's why they call it SoC).
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The CPU and its main frequency has exactly nothing to do w/ video encoding, most probably. Encoding/decoding in small-scale devices is usually implemented by separate subsystems (packaged with the CPU - that's why they call it SoC).
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i see, so Apple spent a good deal of efforts to specifically make the camera so good...It wasnt just that they made the phone well, and in turn that solid hardware allowed for good camera quality.
I dont even use the N1 video recorder very often but for some reason I really want better capabilities, maybe if I did have much higher fps and resolution I would use it a lot. Currently the fps are really poor, any movement is a blur regardless of the amount of light. And of course 480 is quite dated. But the phone is otherwise top notch, and the 5mp camera is really solid and i use it a lot, under varied conditions.
I imagine the internal memory vs. whatever SD card a normal consumer would get might also play a part. The Android devices that do have 720p officially all have internal memory ( >1GB ), right? So the manufacturers can control the quality of memory used. I would think that Google/HTC would get lots more complaints from the general population who got bargain basement cards from the back of a truck and expected everything to perform flawlessly. I also agree with above points about the hardware and subsystems. So many variables. But that's also why I like the Android platform. You have a choice (and not just 16GB vs. 32GB locked to one carrier with a contract).
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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IF I remember correctly, Charansingh said the Iphone achieved 720p by duplicating the image thereby increasing fps to achieve 720p...or something like that. The amount of available light controls the phones ability to reach higher fps. I've gotten 26fps outdoors in bright light. The N1 is set to a max of 30fps, but will only do 1/2 of that indoors. fwiw
Hey guys, quick question for nexus one users. Do you guys consider taking 720p video important? I know you could do the 720p hack, but the quality is so-so with alot of stuttering. Do you guys find vid recording a selling point or just a perk thats not really necessary.
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Hey guys, quick question for nexus one users. Do you guys consider taking 720p video important? I know you could do the 720p hack, but the quality is so-so with alot of stuttering. Do you guys find vid recording a selling point or just a perk thats not really necessary.
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Yes i use it and love it. i find the micro stuttering is from a slow sd card. It wasn't a selling point for me since its not a stock feature
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Hey guys, quick question for nexus one users. Do you guys consider taking 720p video important? I know you could do the 720p hack, but the quality is so-so with alot of stuttering. Do you guys find vid recording a selling point or just a perk thats not really necessary.
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if you turn off auto focus, it's pretty good. i call 720p a good selling point, and from now on a must have for a phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Qwfkvup3Y
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if you turn off auto focus, it's pretty good. i call 720p a good selling point, and from now on a must have for a phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Qwfkvup3Y
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*lol, like the vid!
I'd trade 720p for better quality pictures, so no, it's not that important to me, but nice to have nevertheless.
forgot to put in the reason why im asking.
i love the vanilla UI and i LOVE (you have no idea) the Nexus One styling. This is the phone i wanted for a really long time. But the thing is, the nexus one is lacking in apps (one in particular that i play everyday, bejewled blitz) and its lacking in the HD recording department (and touch to focus). Im trying to decide if those two things are worth going back to the iphone. The ironic thing is, i dont even take videos on the iphone. i think its the fact that its nice to have.
being stuck in the middle blows.
CM6 video has touch to focus and continuous auto-focus in video.
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CM6 video has touch to focus and continuous auto-focus in video.
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does it rival the iphone 4's vid quality or is it a bit more stutter-y?
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does it rival the iphone 4's vid quality or is it a bit more stutter-y?
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You're comparing a year old phone with a few months old phone...not working, compare it with the 3Gs!
I don't have an iPhone 4 but I'm pretty sure the iPhone has better video/picture quality than the Nexus
It's not that important to me now, but may be in the near future...
It is not as good as the iPhone 4's but the Nexus One is an older, less powerful phone. The video quality is adequate.
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if you turn off auto focus, it's pretty good. i call 720p a good selling point, and from now on a must have for a phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Qwfkvup3Y
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Wow thats really good quality video. Not really a pic/video person but glad my n1 will take quality video.
thanks for the replies guys. i guess i'll use the nexus one as a primary phone and carry the iphone if i go places i need to record videos.
i would just like some mod that can enable the auto focus when im recording something
not really important but always good to have.. loving cm6.1rc1
I've used the video capabilities exactly one time.
Don't think that 720p would do anything for me.
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i would just like some mod that can enable the auto focus when im recording something
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I can do that in CM6 ... if I understand you right. I'm able to change focus method in the middle of the recording.
I agree with some of the posts here.
I don't care about the 720p recording but it's good to have it but I'd also definetly trade it for better quality on my photos
Yeah bcpk I don't use cm I'm on geo's Rom
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Yeah bcpk I don't use cm I'm on geo's Rom
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If you use enom's rom you can install the htc cam which has 720p
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hi..i m currently using the native camera app to capture videos...video quality is very good...but the audio is crap...i was recording a live concert...not exactly a concert though...live music performance...the video turned out very good but the audio really sucked...
since the phones mic is the only source...i would like to know if there is an app that can record good quality videos with decent sound...?
Or is there anyway i can remove noise from the recordings using a software on the pc...any convertor that will convert the video to a format which will output the audio better.
P.S the audio is real bad...just not acceptable...its very hazzy and full of noise
Note : settings used were...720p..mpeg4 codec.
Please HELP !!
I second the OPs inquiry...
The answer, as always, is CM. Video and audio quality is superior in CM.
2.3 fixes this via a new ACC codec. CM7, which is very much alpha, is the best choice. Whether that's worth flashing just for that fix is up to you.
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Award Tour said:
2.3 fixes this via a new ACC codec. CM7, which is very much alpha, is the best choice. Whether that's worth flashing just for that fix is up to you.
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Don't do this yet, though. The camcorder is still not working on CM7.
i hv no time to flash CM or 2.3 right now...was looking for a quick fix...some app/codec or tweak that will enable me to record better audio...or i don mind if theres a software for the pc which will rectify the recordings later...i need to do 3 hrs of live recording tomm...and sound is very vital !
i too would love better audio
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Don't do this yet, though. The camcorder is still not working on CM7.
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My video camera is working fine for me....
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i hv no time to flash CM or 2.3 right now...was looking for a quick fix...some app/codec or tweak that will enable me to record better audio...or i don mind if theres a software for the pc which will rectify the recordings later...i need to do 3 hrs of live recording tomm...and sound is very vital !
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If it is so vital and you don't have time to flash a ROM, then march yourself to Best Buy or your nearest electronics store and buy a camcorder. Relying on a "phone" to record "vital" video and audio is not the way to go.
^^ camcorder is out of budget...already spent a lot on d evo..so need to wait a while to get a good camcorder...
[offtopic]do camcorders record audio better..or do u need to buy some production mic to get better audio on video recordings in scenerios like music concerts..? Are there some ports on the camcorder to feed in the audio thru cables etc ?
yes, the video quality is pretty bad even at the max settings. i've never been happy with it.
if you got it less than a month ago, and the video is THAT important to you, you should return the phone and get an even exchange for the Samsung Epic.
The video recording on the Epic is amazing. Even better than the iPhone 4. My wife has it and i'm totally jealous of her video quality, which rivals our flip camcorder.
Besides that, the Evo is a much better phone in almost every way.
but if you're specifically looking for an amazing camcorder and not much else, go get yourself an Epic.
i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?
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i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?
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The point that you are missing is you are trying to use a phone as a replacement for a camcorder.
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i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?
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MP means very little outside of how many pixels at maximum the photo can be made of. With EVO vs Epic video recording its a non issue since both record at the same size -720p- and no larger. Outside of MP, the Epic's sensor is just better; it may capture less pixels at its maximum but the pixels that it does capture will be of higher quality. A lot of people have said that the Epic takes better photos than the iPhone 4; and we just had a long thread where it was found out that the reason why the iPhone 4 shoots better than the EVO is because it does indeed have a better sensor. That's likely the same reason why the SGS/Epic are better too.
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MP means very little outside of how many pixels at maximum the photo can be made of. With EVO vs Epic video recording its a non issue since both record at the same size -720p- and no larger. Outside of MP, the Epic's sensor is just better; it may capture less pixels at its maximum but the pixels that it does capture will be of higher quality. A lot of people have said that the Epic takes better photos than the iPhone 4; and we just had a long thread where it was found out that the reason why the iPhone 4 shoots better than the EVO is because it does indeed have a better sensor. That's likely the same reason why the SGS/Epic are better too.
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Exactly.
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.
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Exactly.
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.
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which is why i want a Galaxy S phone on Sprint but no slideout keyboard...Epic without keyboard. Come on Sprint!
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HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.
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If this is the case, I wish HTC would buy their camera sensors from Samsung...
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If this is the case, I wish HTC would buy their camera sensors from Samsung...
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Has very little to do with what he said. The iPhone and EVO use sensors from the same company. The difference is in product direction. Apple aims for quality, HTC aims for numbers. People expect Apple products to be easy and to work good; most of them don't have a clue what a mega pixel is or does. HTC doesn't have the same product positioning as Apple so they rely on marketing numbers to persuade people (3 more MP then the iPhone 4!!!). At least that's my view.
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The answer, as always, is CM. Video and audio quality is superior in CM.
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Is this really true? I always though that whenever i recorded or took pics with a CM rom it look a little bit better pics or shot better vids than any sense rom just did not know it was ture, or is it? What makes it better?
Article, Androidcentral.com
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-megapixel-myth-46-print-htc-one-camera-looks-awesome
Impressive, just something else that justifies me spending $900 :-$
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13 Megapixels vs the benefits of the Ultra Pixel technology? I'll go with Ultra Pixel thank you.
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Wow, that's awesome v
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What was the title of that Sammy fanboy thread 'is this all the HTC One camera can do?'
Looks good enough to me.
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The only question i have is how did he manage to have a 5.5MB picture?
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The only question i have is how did he manage to have a 5.5MB picture?
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Because its a panorama image
Its a nice scene, but thats what the camera excels at, scenes. If you want to use the camera to capture the details of an event its not so good.
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Its a nice scene, but thats what the camera excels at, scenes. If you want to use the camera to capture the details of an event its not so good.
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If the "event" is indoors or some other area that is dimly lit, the HTC is probably gonna do a better job than other higher pixel'd phone cams
Maybe, that's not always true either. It's useless at sporting events unless you just want to capture the atmosphere rather than actual action.
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Maybe, that's not always true either. It's useless at sporting events unless you just want to capture the atmosphere rather than actual action.
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Not sure I'd be using a phone to document a sporting event...
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Thousands do..
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Thousands do..
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Thousands also use digital zoom, it doesn't make it right.
Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Agree with you on this 100%
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Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Good for you?
It has gotten a perfect picture the first time, every time for me. I am so glad that I no longer have to worry about turning on lights in my normally dark house. Maybe your phone needs a usermod? I don't need the 13mp to text a picture or post something to facebook. If I'm taking a photo I care about I'll use a real camera.
Very nice.
Oh how I can't wait for another "this camera sucks because it's not like my iPhone" thread to start rolling.
In all seriousness, this camera has consistently produced images of quality from a phone. I've printed some of them already in 4x6 and 5x7. They looked fabulous. That's damn good enough for me. :good:
I dont really take pictures in my house, I take them when out and about. Its just not got the resolution to be able to resolve objects more than 50ft away in any detail. As I said it takes nice 'scenes', but for example, at a zoo its useless, because animal invariably aren't close to you. Its useless at motor sport events because it cant resolve the cars unless you are very close to them. I took a few shot at a recent event with the One, and a few with the Nexus 10 as a comparison, and it was the N10 that gave me the best single shot!
It does work as a social media camera, which is I suppose what HTC said all along, but lets not be fanboys here, it has big limitations. Most of the shots on this site that are showing off its abilities are macros, which are nice, but frankly any phone can do that, and I was taking better ones with my N95!
rovex said:
I dont really take pictures in my house, I take them when out and about. Its just not got the resolution to be able to resolve objects more than 50ft away in any detail. As I said it takes nice 'scenes', but for example, at a zoo its useless, because animal invariably aren't close to you. Its useless at motor sport events because it cant resolve the cars unless you are very close to them. I took a few shot at a recent event with the One, and a few with the Nexus 10 as a comparison, and it was the N10 that gave me the best single shot!
It does work as a social media camera, which is I suppose what HTC said all along, but lets not be fanboys here, it has big limitations. Most of the shots on this site that are showing off its abilities are macros, which are nice, but frankly any phone can do that, and I was taking better ones with my N95!
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I assure you I'm not being a fanboy.
Not the best but what I use to take real pictures. You know, like ones at the zoo. Maybe you should pick something like this up if you want to shoot events.
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T2i-Processor-3-0-inch-18-55mm/dp/B0035FZJHQ
Like most people I just want a simple point and shoot device, i dont care enough or need a $600 camera. However I do want one that takes pictures that are worthwhile having.
I wouldn't mind it only being as good as an average phone for these type of shots, but the fact that its worse than a tablet, or even an old phone is inexcusable. The fact is pretty much every 8MP camera phone takes better shots in these situations.
Why is it so hard for google to fix the camera app and the camera quality issues that plague android? I was expecting them to fix it with the 5.1 update , but no luck, if you ask apple fans why they think the iphone is superior , the only thing they have going for them is camera quality. All I'm asking is that they reduce the time it takes to take a HDR+ picture , because without HDR+ the nexus 6 camera is kinda meh, implement an auto HDR+ mode, let us actually use burst mode, timelapse, that's pretty much it.... I don't want to install 3 different camera apps to get features that should be stock ...
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Why is it so hard for google to fix the camera app and the camera quality issues that plague android? I was expecting them to fix it with the 5.1 update , but no luck, if you ask apple fans why they think the iphone is superior , the only thing they have going for them is camera quality. All I'm asking is that they reduce the time it takes to take a HDR+ picture , because without HDR+ the nexus 6 camera is kinda meh, implement an auto HDR+ mode, let us actually use burst mode, timelapse, that's pretty much it.... I don't want to install 3 different camera apps to get features that should be stock ...
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Totally agree, nexus 6 is finally a google phone with a good sensor and lens, and they ruin it with a camera app stuck in 2012.
Things missing:
- 60 fps video
- auto HDR
- HDR Video
- burst mode
- slow motion
- manual settings for ISO and shutter speed
- touch focus & manual focus during videos
- stutter free zoom
- stereo sound recording
I hear you I'm not very pleased with the situation either. I did download a program just for burst mode (Perfectly Clear) something that was standard on my galaxy S3 2 + years ago. The focus hunting in video mode is infuriating also.
I also agree about the iPhone. I was looking through my friend's new iPhone 6 and was playing with apps and camera like lame, lame, lame, wow this camera app is nice and slow mo!
Sent from my Nexus 6
I want a quick picture may use the camera app.
I do not have the time or care enough about taking pictures to learn what half the terms mean.
Take a picture, capture a moment .... looks good enough to me.
Really if they had Auto HDR .... whatever that is I can not see me using it.
Just go with the defaults.
If anything I never go for the highest resolution do not want to fill my internal memory or cloud storage with pictures.
Now I read many threads where people that want to take professional looking pictures just buy a third party app, think Camera 2 was recommended.
The iPhone Camera app maybe better but with Android you are free to try other apps.
The problem is the 3rd party apps suck at doing it (HDR, Burst, etc) and some excel at one thing so you end up having 4 camera apps that don't do what the iPhone camera does pretty well in one app. It is not like you can't run other camera apps on your iPhone either!
Don't be an Android fanboi/apologist please. Good grief!
I don't think its being an android fanboy or apologist to say a person has a differing opinion than yours. I use HDR on my N6 ALL THE TIME.
Quality is fine for me. I'm not looking to become some great camera phone photographer. I just want to capture a quick moment. I've used quite a few camera apps and, in the end, I find it doesn't matter to me. It all looks good to me.
Point, shoot, upload... MAYBE stream through Chromecast for family. You prefer a better camera set of functions, others, including myself, think the camera is just fine because it fits what we do with our cameras.
It not like anyone is slinging mud at you and telling you to go get an iPhone.. Don't be that guy that throws mud because someone has a differing opinion than you.
So just to be clear... your opinion is the camera app is "good enough" and we all should be fine with that? Oh well then O.K. No reason to improve it then. What's next?
Edit: YOU HAVE A NOTE 4??? Get the f*** out of here you are not using Google camera!!! If I had a Note 4 I would not be complaining either! It arguably takes better pictures than the iPhone :good:
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So just to be clear... your opinion is the camera app is "good enough" and we all should be fine with that? Oh well then O.K. No reason to improve it then. What's next?
Edit: YOU HAVE A NOTE 4??? Get the f*** out of here you are not using Google camera!!!
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u do realize u can download the google camera from the play store right? Also its just a phone with a camera. you want quality pics buy a real camera. Gotta love the complainers over something very small. There is nothing wrong with the camera. Get real. Jeez
Auto HDR would also help people who don't want to spend time learning to take pictures.
I think we need an easy to use and fast camera app, which also adds options for those who want to get the best out of the camera. The new Lumia Camera 5 is doing this pretty good i think.
Title of thread: Will google ever fix the camera app
People agree it sucks. It runs from acceptable to horrendous. We are labeled complainers? Why is it so much to ask that Google has a "good" camera by default then if I want manual controls or other features I use another app?
Yes, if I want to take a lot of good pictures I will break out my DSLR but functionally my Galaxy S3 was better than what came in my Nexus 6.
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Title of thread: Will google ever fix the camera app
People agree it sucks. It runs from acceptable to horrendous. We are labeled complainers? Why is it so much to ask that Google has a "good" camera by default then if I want manual controls or other features I use another app?
Yes, if I want to take a lot of good pictures I will break out my DSLR but functionally my Galaxy S3 was better than what came in my Nexus 6.
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Its very simple to them having a acceptable os running would be far more important than any apks. You cant sit there and tell me u rather have a good camera over the os. If so thats a stupid thought. A camera app can be fixed very easily by downloading another from the playstore. So again this small issue that people are having with the google camera is what it is A SMALL ISSUE.
Not quite sure i agree with all the people saying " you can just download another app " ?? you can't
Not if you want 120fps slow motion
or 60fps.
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Not quite sure i agree with all the people saying " you can just download another app " ?? you can't
Not if you want 120fps slow motion
or 60fps.
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You cant....oh here u go. Sure can
https://play.google.com/store/searc...iCAoGY2FtZXJhegIYAIoBAggB:S:ANO1ljIbXPM&hl=en
Oh look google camera 2nd one on the list.
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You cant....oh here u go. Sure can
https://play.google.com/store/searc...iCAoGY2FtZXJhegIYAIoBAggB:S:ANO1ljIbXPM&hl=en
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Thanks for that massive list of camera apps... none of which give 60fps or 120fps slow motion?
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Thanks for that massive list of camera apps... none of which give 60fps or 120fps slow motion?
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its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows
The nexus 6 is a phone with a camera. Besides even in your post u stated u cant download another app. Right there proves u wrong.
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its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows
The nexus 6 is a phone with a camera. Besides even in your post u stated u cant download another app. Right there proves u wrong.
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Lol ok, you need to take the fanboy hat off. Firstly i've had every Nexus phone since the Nexus S , love them, but the camera app is just poor and lacking features.
Oh and go back and read my post again, i said ... not if you want 60fps or 120fps slow motion. ( which btw the OnePlus One can do with the same sensor!) .. get off your high horse
"its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows"
This is beyond stupid, how many Android phones out there have MUCH better camera apps than Nexus branded devices ???? ?nearly all of them
The fanboy in you is shocking.
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Lol ok, you need to take the fanboy hat off. Firstly i've had every Nexus phone since the Nexus S , love them, but the camera app is just poor and lacking features.
Oh and go back and read my post again, i said ... not if you want 60fps or 120fps slow motion... get off your high horse .
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Far from a fan boy. Just getting ridiculous with people complaining about a non issue. How is the camera lacking features when it was provided just recently? the google camera is new back in april 2014. So no sure what u mean by poor and lacking features. If thats the case then the google now launcher and is poor and lacking features. Do some research fanboy
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Far from a fan boy. Just getting ridiculous with people complaining about a non issue. How is the camera lacking features when it was provided just recently? the google camera is new back in april 2014. So no sure what u mean by poor and lacking features. If thats the case then the google now launcher and is poor and lacking features. Do some research fanboy
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Lol you're making yourself look ridiculous.
So apparently because it was given to us in April 2014 means its perfect? LOL
HTC, Samsung , Sony, OnePlus ( Oneplus btw has the same damn sensor so its 100% capable ) ... All of their Android devices offer :
60-fps
Slow motion
HDR in video
better autofocus while recording video
The list is actually pretty long from whats lacking on the Nexus camera app, sorry but if you can't see that , you're straight up blind, either physically or mentally
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Lol you're making yourself look ridiculous.
So apparently because it was given to us in April 2014 means its perfect? LOL
HTC, Samsung , Sony, OnePlus ... All of their Android devices offer :
60-fps
Slow motion
HDR in video
better autofocus while recording video
The list is actually pretty long from whats lacking on the Nexus camera app, sorry but if you can't see that , there's no point in taking to you.
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your the one complaining about a non issue. google makes apps/os as simple as possible. Again research before u continue to complain about a non issue. Your a joke dude thinking that google left out features. there is a reason why. Simplicity.
Have a great day
Ps. Never said its perfect, but its not bad as most people state it is. I rather have simplicity over a camera with features I wont use.
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your the one complaining about a non issue. google makes apps/os as simple as possible. Again research before u continue to complain about a non issue. Your a joke dude thinking that google left out features. there is a reason why. Simplicity.
Have a great day
Ps. Never said its perfect, but its not bad as most people state it is. I rather have simplicity over a camera with features I wont use.
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LOL , cheers, needed that laugh