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Lollipop fiasco.

I want to give some opinions on the latest Lollipop update.
I used the Brazilian soak test (5.0 Motorola Firmware) and I'm currently running GPE 5.0.1
On the bright side, the 5.0 moto firmware ran at the same speed/performance level as 4.4.4 and a bit smoother, so that's good.
Now, the GPE 5.0.1 runs faster than ever on my XT1032, not even one lag afaik, but the most I noted is how the apps launch quickier.
GPE doesn't have Moto Camera and Gallery, so no HDR and slowmo (Not in google camera, not in aosp camera). That's a bummer.
But that doesn't have really to do with Lollipop. Now, the notifications. There's no silent mode (well, there is NONE but goodbye alarms and LED notification!). So there is priority mode.
The apps set their priority themselves, so it's kinda useless. You use priority mode, it still rings for WhatsApp. Even if isn't set as priority, and I tried turning priority on and off on Per-app notification settings.
Worst of all is that on Stock Unrooted 4.4.4 the notification was already somehow crippled. Without a Xposed Module you couldn't set different volumes for ringtone and notification sounds. Most OEMs add that option.
Also, no dropdown on the volume bar that pops up when you press the volume rocker. OEMs usually add that too.
Heads-Up Notifications. Yeah, that's cool not having whole screen pop up a call when you trying to do something. But again, every app set its priority and you get heads up that can't let you see the status bar properly all the time. You get no ticker, I really loved that way to read notifications. Very uninstrusive.
I had sound bugs on some games on 5.0 moto, I don't have them on 5.0.1, however there's an app that launches so slow on 5.0.1 and it doesn't multitask at all (only on that app). As long as you leave it, gets killed.
Didn't happen on 4.4.4.
There's also more other annoyances you know, or even I maybe don't remember right now. But all my expectations for Lollipop got crushed.
Rollback to 4.4.4 is possible, however you get that screen flicker, easily fixable by locking and unlocking the device. However, it appears on reboot again.
I'm honestly waiting for a PERMANENT solution to the flicker and I think I'm going back to 4.4.4 right away.
Anyways it's a shame they f'd up so hard, when the system is all-around fast, responsive, and stable. But VERY unintuitive, and adds/remove features without letting you choose like it's common on Android.

hopefully , he jumps something new mistakes , just step in kitkat arise , but the frustration we generate ourselves for such a yearning for the arrival of 5.0 . in general I do not return to 4.4.4 even taking the gpe 5.0 . anger correcting everything , now they release to the United States and Europe will come firmwere many developments with the new boot and see cyanogenmos with the new boot , so you can not ask for much
sorry for mi bad inglish

The interruptions system is kind of weird,i'll give you that.
I haven't messed around with priority mode,as the only time i turn down my sound is when i go to school in which i have my phone in my pocket so i don't really need the LED.
Aside from that i had compatibility issues with some apps,mainly whatsapp and spotify.
Whatsapp crashes constantly when you're setting it up,but after that its mostly fine.
Spotify just decides to not open sometimes,or open very slowly,or delete you entire downloaded song archive,it's annoying but i can bear it till an update comes i suppose.
One problem i had with the brazil 5.0 was that there was no mobile data quick toggle,when you pressed it on toggles screen it just took you to mobile data settings but that's fixed in 5.0.1 GPE.
Well,aside from the priority mode which imo just needs some tinkering with on google's end,these are very minor and simple problems that can and will be fixed.
I wouldn't call this a "fiasco" not even close,lollipop is so much faster than KK especially when you're multitasking.It just flies.
It seems like you were expecting too much from the whole thing.

Not a fiasco at all, but I agree that the priority mode needs to be improved, there's no way to put it in 'silent but with alarm' if some apps are in the 'priority list'.
Also, I'm waiting for someone to make a Moto Camera zip too. With the apk and the needed libraries it should work.
I miss HDR, and slow-mo is a cool feature.

What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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Which is pretty good for an update imo.
The system is much faster and much easier to use now.

maxxblade said:
The interruptions system is kind of weird,i'll give you that.
I haven't messed around with priority mode,as the only time i turn down my sound is when i go to school in which i have my phone in my pocket so i don't really need the LED.
Aside from that i had compatibility issues with some apps,mainly whatsapp and spotify.
Whatsapp crashes constantly when you're setting it up,but after that its mostly fine.
Spotify just decides to not open sometimes,or open very slowly,or delete you entire downloaded song archive,it's annoying but i can bear it till an update comes i suppose.
One problem i had with the brazil 5.0 was that there was no mobile data quick toggle,when you pressed it on toggles screen it just took you to mobile data settings but that's fixed in 5.0.1 GPE.
Well,aside from the priority mode which imo just needs some tinkering with on google's end,these are very minor and simple problems that can and will be fixed.
I wouldn't call this a "fiasco" not even close,lollipop is so much faster than KK especially when you're multitasking.It just flies.
It seems like you were expecting too much from the whole thing.
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xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.

ianx47 said:
All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.
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It's a simple fix,google will probably take care of it with 5.0.2/5.1 in a few months.
And even until then somebody will definitely make an unofficial fix.

"Fiasco"?
Bit of a storm in a teacup, all these lollipop gripes, hmm? It's barely out of Beta, and everyone's up in arms... wow... I'm certain these fixes will come, but the question is, how patiently will people wait for them?

Lollipop is by far the best release Google has ever done. Holy sour grapes OP. Google gives us Android for free.

xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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Some of these exclusions and inclusions of features are present on the nexus too, so this really is not an issue of hardware but more to the OS. It sucks because lollipop is supposed to have offered better FUNCTIONALITY and FEATURES on its stock offering and now we're here. it kinda sucks in some department (not owing anything to the moto g's hardware)

Blah blah blah. People were going on like this when Kitkat first came out "JELLYBEAN WAS WAY BETTER" "KITKAT SUCKS CUZ IT REMOVED X FEATURE THAT JELLYBEAN HAD AND DOES THINGS DIFFERENT!"
This thread needs to be closed.

Cupcake (1.5) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
Donut (1.6) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - it's gonna be awesome... HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
And so, throughout the years, each impatient nerd with a slightly obsessive bent towards new and shiny, kept, and keeps on, repeating the "I can't wait for X.X release, my phone is looking old and stale and <blah>"
Android 4.0 was (supposedly) going to change the world, the way people waffled on about it and obsessed over it's release. Then it was 4.1... then the "best" version was suddenly decided to be 4.2.2, then they said KitKat was going to be "revolutionary" or other such hyperbole. The same thing happens all over the tech world - people couldn't wait for DVD to come along and render VHS to landfill (we still use VHS in our house, daily), then it was HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY, then BLU-RAY "won", and it was decided that DVDs would never again be "good enough". Next, it was the moronic, gimmicky obsession with everything 3D... then, suddenly, once "The Industry" had "officially" stated that "3D is dead", it was like a switch had been turned off on the backs of consumer's necks (the mass consumption switch)... now it's 4K, and everyone thinks 1080p "isn't good enough" or is "low res", and in a few years 8K will be seen to be "superior"... this cycle of sheer, unconsidered madness isn't likely to end very soon at all.
Unless ALL you do with your smart phones and tablets is tap UI elements all day to see how shiny and fluid they are, it REALLY isn't all that relevant which version you are on, UNLESS you have severe, mission-critical bugs and lack of features which cost you time and money (unlikely, for most of you, if you were brutally honest with yourselves). You wanna know why you're all so "disappointed"? You work yourselves up into a frenzy, and set your expectations unrealistically high, and when the reality doesn't meet your overblown expectations, the internet goes into meltdown and starts ranting... LMAO.
Here's the day I'll cheer Google - when they abandon Java... UGH - what a horror.
It's just another release... it's coming, and yeah - it's great, but come ON - get off your bums and go and do something else apart from obsessing over it - there's SO much more fulfilment to be had from life

ianx47 said:
All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.
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try setting it to vibrate then upping the volume by only one click. on some nexus devices it results in the muted state you require, at least worth a try

gnubash said:
Cupcake (1.5) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
Donut (1.6) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - it's gonna be awesome... HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
And so, throughout the years, each impatient nerd with a slightly obsessive bent towards new and shiny, kept, and keeps on, repeating the "I can't wait for X.X release, my phone is looking old and stale and <blah>"
Android 4.0 was (supposedly) going to change the world, the way people waffled on about it and obsessed over it's release. Then it was 4.1... then the "best" version was suddenly decided to be 4.2.2, then they said KitKat was going to be "revolutionary" or other such hyperbole. The same thing happens all over the tech world - people couldn't wait for DVD to come along and render VHS to landfill (we still use VHS in our house, daily), then it was HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY, then BLU-RAY "won", and it was decided that DVDs would never again be "good enough". Next, it was the moronic, gimmicky obsession with everything 3D... then, suddenly, once "The Industry" had "officially" stated that "3D is dead", it was like a switch had been turned off on the backs of consumer's necks (the mass consumption switch)... now it's 4K, and everyone thinks 1080p "isn't good enough" or is "low res", and in a few years 8K will be seen to be "superior"... this cycle of sheer, unconsidered madness isn't likely to end very soon at all.
Unless ALL you do with your smart phones and tablets is tap UI elements all day to see how shiny and fluid they are, it REALLY isn't all that relevant which version you are on, UNLESS you have severe, mission-critical bugs and lack of features which cost you time and money (unlikely, for most of you, if you were brutally honest with yourselves). You wanna know why you're all so "disappointed"? You work yourselves up into a frenzy, and set your expectations unrealistically high, and when the reality doesn't meet your overblown expectations, the internet goes into meltdown and starts ranting... LMAO.
Here's the day I'll cheer Google - when they abandon Java... UGH - what a horror.
It's just another release... it's coming, and yeah - it's great, but come ON - get off your bums and go and do something else apart from obsessing over it - there's SO much more fulfilment to be had from life
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I appreciate your point about the non-essential features like animations and new design, and believe me. I'm not like that. I'm way more focused on functionality than design. To give you an idea, on my desktop PC i have disabled all the OS animations, because most of the time my pc does things faster than the animation itself on daily light workloads (you know, SSDs..).
And on Android, until now, I've always disable animations or turning them into 0.5x scale, because I felt like they were kinda a waste of time, though pretty, I like the snapiness.
Maybe I was a little tough on Lollipop, but when you can't do something on a new release that you could on a previous release, that's kind of bad.. and I mean basic things like having your phone not interrupting but showing a LED light.
I kinda like the idea of Priority and interruptions on Lollipop, however, if you filter something as not priority, it doesn't use the LED light. How exactly is a led light blinking an interruption?.

Led fix
To enable led notifications, install Notification light widget from Motorola in the play store.
Then put the widget in the home screen, enable it and finally you can uninstall it.
It worked on Kit Kat, but surely will work on lollipop too.

[MotoMaxx] Lollipop Soak Test Impressions

Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?

Jaocagomez said:
Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?
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Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.

Any camera improvements?
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poncespr said:
Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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specific app problems should be addressed by their respective creator, its the app fault to not be ready for lollipop
fsiddique said:
Any camera improvements?
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yes i've seen focus improvements
also the low speaker volume seems fixed on ringtone speaker as well in-call speaker.

I get like 2 or 3 freezes a day, phone becomes totally unresponsive for 10 seconds or so.
Enviado do meu XT1225

All devices than get lollipop is better have factory reset for good perfomance

Am i having one of them, whatchamacallit, placebo effect, or has the bluetooth streaming quality improved.?
I think my music sounds better.
Any one else?
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Bluetooth music streaming seems to drop or pause for a second every few minutes
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Turning bluetooth off and then back on seems to have solved the issue so far.

it take it 4% in one night in stanby
battery seems the same to me.
have some lags and some freezing too for 30 seconds -1 minute
hope Moto will solve this problems

Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache

For those with the freezing/stuttering/lag issues, did you perform a factory data reset prior to installing the OTA?

poncespr said:
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.

Jaocagomez said:
Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache
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I did a factory data reset after installing. That took care mostly of the lag, but i keep having bluetooth issues.
Sometimes streaming music pauses on my Bluetooth music speaker, and it drops the connection on my stereo
headset. Things that do not happen with my older phones.
In all fairness, it could be because of the hybrid Brazil/Puerto Rico thing, but honestly, I don't think so as I was already having
Bluetooth issues before. Plus, everything else is working great. Signal is rock solid and I get LTE with no problems at all.
May have a defective phone.
ChazzMatt said:
Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.
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Yes. I actually did not miss custom roms on kitkat with gravity box.
I hope they iron out the kinks soon!

Which version did they push? 5.0,.01, or .02?

.02

good so far
I haven't found any bug. I see volumen calls, screen brigthness, battery life improvement.
Everything runs smooth. Now i see the diference between my droid maxx and this.
47hrs.

some bugs i've noticed so far:
Sometimes when connected on a wifi network, disconnects and reconnects again, this didnt happen on kitkat, happens randomly
When listening to google play music and then receive a notification the music doesn't resume again, you have to click pause and play to resume to playing the song.

My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)

If you upgraded and having performance issue with stuttering and lags, I highly recommend performing a factory reset. I did mine through recovery and wiped Data & Cache.
That made a massive difference.

I have an wifi issue, it's not turning on at all. On 4.4 it's working fine, even on BR firmware (my phone is PR). Is Anybody met this?

prking07 said:
My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)
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When you say "flashed every file" do you mean just the system image files in the OP of the lollipop install thread or do you literally mean every file (I.e. bootloader, radio, etc)? I've been wanting to go this route of converting my PR Maxx to Brazilian retail 100% as well by flashing all the files.
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5.1.1 Existence has been leaked, what do we want?

So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.

exekias said:
So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.
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probably nothing beneficial for the N6... looks like it's only going to be for the N7 and N9... much like the 5.0.2 release was never "official" for the N6.

If its truly LMY47S, then it is not really 5.1.1.
That has the same build date code as 5.1.

I want faster responding sensors. Auto dimming, proximity sensor for phone calls sped up. Damn thing takes forever! As does auto rotate.

Want a rocketship for blasting off to Mars! Seems my Nexus6 has about everything else!

I'd like my battery to last over 9000 minutes of screen on time.

Three wishes, and none of them for an iPhone, M9, or S6.

Better battery optimization, improved camera and radio, and ability to switch to a dark Material theme.

Performance improvement for Camera, Dialer and occasional dropped frames in animations.

I would like google to unlock the notification led xD
Faster booting up and more options when shutting down.
Screen resolution options.
That's it for now, only had it for 2 days. Still learning about lollipop, I came from an galaxy s3.

Sexy wallpaper

- Notification lights back by default (non-rooted)
- (Better) hardware encryption for faster boot-up

Fix the carkit a2dp crashing when connected to a Bluetooth low energy device. I should not have to put my moto 360 in airplane mode every time I drive my car...
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clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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To you and others in this thread - You're on XDA and many of the feature requests are available in most custom ROMs. "I don't run rooted ROMs" or "I'd like those features to be in stock ROM" will probably be your reply, to which I will say, why are you commenting on a developer / Android customization forum?

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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Why would Google implement something that is unnecessary and could cause problems? There hasn't been any need to close apps for quite a few iterations of android (actually an understatement)

With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.

I just want WiFi calling
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8Fishes said:
With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.
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Well it's using a tegra chip. All other nexus are using Qualcomm chips. Minus the 9 which is also late to the party.

The N6 is already a great device. What would make it stand above the rest is for it to be natively as smooth and lag free as the N5 is and to add some minor battery life improvements.

Loving this phone after flashing MM

I've been running MM for months now, currently running OctOS MM and it has been running almost flawlessly. The only issues are well documented, the video playback in Chrome and the flashlight turning off. Those things are minor in comparison to the improvements the ROM has made to the phone. It is the fastest it's ever been, nothing compared to the newer phones but snappy and very usable in everyday situations. Which to me is defined as being BT to the car while navigating and playing music. The battery life is amazing, like back to the ICS days. With Greenify's aggressive doze, there is hardly any battery drain with the screen off. I was very near to getting the Nexus 6P but now I'll definitely use this phone as my daily for another year and see what the iPhone 8 brings. I've also been running the phone naked and it just feels right. Perfect proportions! Gave my iPhone 6s to my wife a few months ago because that phone is boring to a fault. Everything just works perfectly which means no fun. Funny that I enjoy Android because it is such a POS. Lol
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So, tell me my friend...do I have a chance with non-dev SU6-7.3 to get this? Few days I was on first 4.4.4. update and didn't do the next updates and I mistouched the buttons and accidentaly updated my phone...so I did all of them. I'm really jealous of you. Always wanted the best for my MAXX. Is there any chance at least for root?

Sorry, I'm not too familiar with rooting locked phones. I'm always just one drop away from losing my unlocked bootloader. Dropped my first MAXX, which was unlocked from ICS. Send it in to Motorola before Lenovo took over and they replaced it no questions asked. The phone came with 4.4.4 and I lost my unlocked bootloader, but just before I was going to upgrade to 6-7, the bootloader unlock method came out for 4-23 and so I've been unlocked since. The MAXX is very fragile, even when everything looks fine, a good drop will damage the internals, with the rear camera going bad as the first sign. I'm running the phone naked nowadays because I'm extra careful and it feels so light and good to the hands but if I do break it, it'll be an excuse to get a Nexus 6P. I think the MAXX runs 4.4.4 great and you're not losing out on too much. 4.4.2 was the best IMO looking back. Hope you find a way to root but if not, it's still a damn good phone. I still have a backup MotoX on 4.4.4 even though it is also bootloader unlocked. If Motorola know what's good for them, they would offer unlock codes for our phones they screwed us over with LP. LP was complete junk, but it's the principle.. lol. Regardless, I'm done with Motorola as long as they are under Lenovo.
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Can you tell us where you got this ROM from? I looked on OctOS' site and didn't find DROID MAXX on their supported list.
And/or post a link to full backup of your SYSTEM partition? [I am not sure if there's phone-specific information on that partition, I believe not though since those partitions are reflashed from official and downloaded ROMs all the time.] The reason for this is because I am not sure why we can't take a BL-unlocked phone, upgrade it to LP or MM using CM or another ROM, pull it's SYSTEM partition, and flash that using the @CrashXXL method to a BL-locked phone.
I imagine there is a partition signature verification happening somewhere, but somehow the @CrashXXL method is not tripping that up with the QHS_DLOAD mode method. And I'm willing to try this backdoor method to put an LP/MM SYSTEM on the phone, because I think worst-case I could go back to SU6-7 which is where I am today. Would be in mid-June though.

I'll send a request to them to see if I can share the link to the ROM. I was running their ROM on my MotoX, made a TWRP backup and flashed it onto my MAXX. Used the 5.1 patch to activate the capacitive buttons and all was good. Shared my results with the OctOS folks and they told me, yeah, try this MAXX version they had and been running it since. It is not in the main OctOS website and I don't want to share it without asking them first, standby.
The OctOS ROM also includes KernelAdiutor and I just started playing with the Low Memory Killer and think I stumbled onto something. Right now in Aggressive setting and it is multitasking like a champ, where before it would still stumble and stutter, it is smooth as butter. I have it BT'd to my Bose Mini, playing YouTube Music, Waze, posted on Facebook and now typing this post on Tapatalk and smooth as butter. The phone has never run this smooth at anytime before and running that many app would have likely killed the phone by now. Amazing. So it may be a memory management issue more so than the fact that the MAXX only has a dual core processor. Something to look into. I'm not holding my breath, the real test will be when I drive to work, as the car's BT seems to tax the phone heavily.
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Johnny Wong said:
I'll send a request to them to see if I can share the link to the ROM. I was running their ROM on my MotoX, made a TWRP backup and flashed it onto my MAXX. Used the 5.1 patch to activate the capacitive buttons and all was good. Shared my results with the OctOS folks and they told me, yeah, try this MAXX version they had and been running it since. It is not in the main OctOS website and I don't want to share it without asking them first, standby.
The OctOS ROM also includes KernelAdiutor and I just started playing with the Low Memory Killer and think I stumbled onto something. Right now in Aggressive setting and it is multitasking like a champ, where before it would still stumble and stutter, it is smooth as butter. I have it BT'd to my Bose Mini, playing YouTube Music, Waze, posted on Facebook and now typing this post on Tapatalk and smooth as butter. The phone has never run this smooth at anytime before and running that many app would have likely killed the phone by now. Amazing. So it may be a memory management issue more so than the fact that the MAXX only has a dual core processor. Something to look into. I'm not holding my breath, the real test will be when I drive to work, as the car's BT seems to tax the phone heavily.
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Sounds good, I appreciate it and please keep me posted.

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Sounds good, I appreciate it and please keep me posted.
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Here's the link to the ROM. It is not supported, so use at your own risk. With that being said, I've been using the ROM for months. Just discovered a bug where if you try to make a call while BT'd to the car, it will crash. Never noticed it until over the weekend because I've been receiving calls just fine. Might just be a permission issue. Haven't looked into it yet.
https://basketbuild.com/devs/Team_Octos/private/moto
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Said I was never going to buy anything Motorola post Lenovo but couldn't help myself.
Have it synced to both my MotoX and my MAXX by fooling the watch into thinking it is the same phone. Did that by flashing a MotoX TWRP backup to the MAXX. I need to fix the Tapatalk sig to read sent from my MAXX...
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Johnny Wong said:
Here's the link to the ROM. It is not supported, so use at your own risk. With that being said, I've been using the ROM for months. Just discovered a bug where if you try to make a call while BT'd to the car, it will crash. Never noticed it until over the weekend because I've been receiving calls just fine. Might just be a permission issue. Haven't looked into it yet.
https://basketbuild.com/devs/Team_Octos/private/moto
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Thanks for the tip! This rom really seems excellent. However, there is usually no in-call sound either way when I'm receiving a call! When I initate the call, it's all OK. Out of 3 different callers, I only had one that had a voice connection.
Anyone experiencing the same?
UPDATE: a zip for Moto X from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/aosp-audio-fix-ghost-t3380744 seems to have solved the issue. Needs testing though.

I had to go back to LP after discovering that BT is not working correctly when synced to my cars. As soon as I try to make a call, the phone freezes and then reboots. Other than that, the ROM was perfect. Hopefully they will resolve the issue in a future build but for now, I flashed back to OctOS's final build of LP 5.1.1 for the MotoX. This is only the first day back with LP and I already ran into the cell standby battery drain (don't know if it is actually a drain or if it is just reporting wrong) and I'm missing some of the MM features such as the integrated search function. Oh well, that itch to get a Nexus 6p is coming back again and the price is pretty competitive too. So tempting....

I ended up going back to 5.1.1 (DU's 9.8).
The long-standing marshmallow bug of statusbar scrolldown speed (when triggered by an external event, not direct pulldown) is not fixed and really annoying.
Sound was reproducibly fixed by the AOSP patch though.

Yeah, it's too bad no one has cracked the code on some of those MM bugs. If someone can port Now on Tap to LP I would be set. That and Doze. Pretty happy right now with 5.1.1, looks like it has been polished up quite a bit since the last time I ran it. Might have to give DU a try to see if it has the same cell standby battery bug. OctOS never closed out Obake with a final LP build so I'm forced to run the MotoX version. Not bad minus the fact that my capacitive buttons are at full brightness with the MotoX LP 5.1 patch.
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Tried DU LP with high expectations but couldn't get it to work at all. From first boot up, it was already experiencing random restarts. Probably did something wrong, but I did a full wipe minus internal memory before install. Anyway, restored to OctOS M6 LP, and have been running it for a week. The ROM started to slow down, with random choppiness and was hit with the radio standby bug even with the MobileRadioActiveFix xposed module installed. Was not a happy camper to the point I ordered a One plus 3 but then soon realized it won't work on Verizon (epic fail), don't know how I overlooked that. Anyway, have to return that phone when it arrives but that's a whole different story. Back to the MAXX, went to the MotoX forums and read up on Tycoo's kernel for CM12 and decided to give it a shot. Now it's only been a day but so far, it is running flawlessly. Better than even when I was on MM. Overclocked to 1890mhz, intelliactive, intelliplug, Zen I/o, and other recommended settings such as Zram at 320mb equals a snappy new phone! Don't really care about battery life but the MotoX guys claim 5hr SOT with those settings which means the MAXX would easily do that and more. Will report back, definitely recommend!! Also, I highly recommend the snapdragon camera, it is by far the fastest camera available for our phone.
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Phab 2 (not pro/plus) root reports (none yet)

just got my Phab 2 from lenovo today. trying various methods and will report if anything works.
kingoroot - no

Well just made it through my first day of using the phab 2.
Some good, some bad.
Battery life is not what I expected. 100% to 50% from 10am to 8pm. Moderate usage, Waze navigation for about 10 minutes. I came from a Huawei mate 2, so my standards are pretty high.
Some glitches setting up Bluetooth with Microsoft sync. Would not reconnect after initial setup without turning car off. Although, I will note that sync has had its own issues.
No root means no app settings, everything is too big.
The stock launcher is outrageously boring and not customizable. I could not find any real settings to adjust icon size, or even to change icons.
Now for the good:
Overall Android build is very stable and quick, no hangups with many apps running.
Display is very crisp for being a low-end model, and includes settings to adjust tone and color intensity.
Very little bloatware.
Camera is actually pretty good. Not perfect, but ok for 200$.
Plenty of good comments about 6.0, as I came from 4.3, but I'll spare the entire Android review.
But, this is what makes me never want to buy a Lenovo phone again. I called lenovo to get some basic specs on this phone that were not verified online. I went through 10 minutes of automated dialog and 5 different phone numbers. No one knew who to talk to about this phone. They're so focused on the big customers that they forgot to provide any support for what may be their biggest seller? On top of that, the guy I finally got in contact with at technical support was baffled that I would call about something other than a desktop or laptop, and did not have the information about this device on hand. This isn't a problem, as I got what I needed, but it almost seemed like no one was aware that this device was even available yet. Nothing in their support site references it, no real technical detail available, etc.
Anyways, I digress. There aren't many other 6.4inch phones available, so I can't complain too much. Overall, Im enjoying the experience. Plus, it gets attention.

Where did you get this... I've been looking to get one but haven't found a source...I'm assuming you're saying battery life is weaker than on the HAM2? Thanks again

TVCCS said:
Where did you get this... I've been looking to get one but haven't found a source...I'm assuming you're saying battery life is weaker than on the HAM2? Thanks again
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Directly from lenovo. Yes, but the ham2 is pretty much the top tier in terms of battery life.
After a few days with it, I can go all day with Bluetooth Pandora, 2+hours straight of screen on time, 30 mins of Waze and have 40% left. I'd say it's doing pretty good for a standard phone. A few issues I've had are, the stock alarm app notification gets stuck and cannot be dismissed on occasion. A restart fixes this. Bluetooth AND Microsoft Sync have to be reset when a failed connection happens (this also occurred on my ham2, but only once every 2 months. This is once a day.) There are always 2 network icons in the notification bar for some reason.
On the up side, the camera has proven to be excellent in standard lighting. Pictures take a while to 'click.'
Touch response is very clean, will say I'm impressed with either the phones accuracy or androids ability to detect where a touch was meant.
My biggest pet peeve is also one of my favorite features. The navigation buttons are so dim that you can't see them in the daytime, but they're also so close together for such a large phone. But, this gives you plenty of room to grasp the phone without exiting an app by mistake, or bringing up a menu midst message.
Anyhow, I'll gladly answer any questions anyone has.

Thanks for the info... Lenovo doesn't have a place to order it yet for the U.S., at least that I can find.

Here ya go:
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/smartphones/phab-series/?menu-id=phab_series
I'm expecting mine today/Monday. Can't wait to get back into a proper-sized large phone. I've missed them since I sold my Sony Z Ultras...

Yeah I saw them on sale now, thanks. Can someone who has one please post a full Antutu benchmark score with 3D? The reports I've seen on the MTK8735 suggest a benchmark of around 31000, which isn't terribly impressive, but I'd like to see it on this device specifically. Thanks!

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Yeah I saw them on sale now, thanks. Can someone who has one please post a full Antutu benchmark score with 3D? The reports I've seen on the MTK8735 suggest a benchmark of around 31000, which isn't terribly impressive, but I'd like to see it on this device specifically. Thanks!
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Thanks much.

alaska100 said:
just got my Phab 2 from lenovo today. trying various methods and will report if anything works.
kingoroot - no
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Any luck with rooting your phab2? I cannot find any method.

Is there any method to root lenovo phab 2?

How are the AR features? Any of them useful?

this version does not have AR features. You're looking for the Plus/Pro or w/e.

We're going to need to get a read back of the ROM from SP Flash tool to get root I think. What we really need is a TWRP build. I've tried quite a few variations for our chipset but haven't found one that even remotely boots yet.
hopefully we some others engage. i've got stuff I need to do with this phone, a few of which require root access of some kind.

Synman said:
We're going to need to get a read back of the ROM from SP Flash tool to get root I think. What we really need is a TWRP build. I've tried quite a few variations for our chipset but haven't found one that even remotely boots yet.
hopefully we some others engage. i've got stuff I need to do with this phone, a few of which require root access of some kind.
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I hope you find a way to root phab 2. Why would they lock down the fastboot? Isn't the android open source? Slowly becoming like iOS.

fast boot isn't locked down, nor is the boot loader (once you unlock it). The problem is none of the MTK tools that I have are working like they are supposed to.
I've started a DEV thread with the stock images attached. Perhaps someone else will have better luck

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fast boot isn't locked down, nor is the boot loader (once you unlock it). The problem is none of the MTK tools that I have are working like they are supposed to.
I've started a DEV thread with the stock images attached. Perhaps someone else will have better luck
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My device is from Philippines. I unlocked the bootloader, but from recovery I cannot access bootloader. Device would not let me choose bootloader even though has the option, and from fastboot reboot, the device would not reboot.

the boot loader IS fast boot. Lenovo devices are notorious for allowing you one fast boot command per boot into the loader.

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the boot loader IS fast boot. Lenovo devices are notorious for allowing you one fast boot command per boot into the loader.
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what do you mean by one fast boot command per boot into the loader?

You can only issue a single fastboot command before having to reboot back into the boot loader to issue another.