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There isn't really anywhere to ask this question so I am asking it here.
I am running a Dell M90 on Windows 8, but its finally starting to die. The screen is going out and its not economical to replace it. Im a little sad but its had a good run. Boots in less than 30 seconds and had a Windows rating over 5. Pretty good for a seven year old laptop. I am needing a replacement quickly.
Q: Which of the three laptops would you buy? Or is there another one out that I am missing?
Dell XPS 15
Samsung 17" series 7
Samsung 15" Series 9 Ultrabook
Why It's not such an easy decision:
Best option to upgrade to Windows 8 ( The M90 doesn't have the nvidia drivers available that it needs, uses a general driver w/out aero support)
Portability (The M90 is a monster to carry around)
I need a screen at least 15"
What is the major drawback between I7 and I5?
It must be Ivy Bridge or 3rd generation iSeries
I think I want a glossy screen (the M90 is matte, and I just dont think it looks as nice)
Would you only look at SSDs?
Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.
I still think TF300 is the best. It is Android (not Windows crappy SO) and my dock gives me more battery life. Windows 8 apps are sloooow to load, surface comes with many problems related to sound, and well, I'ts a Windows - after some months it will start to stay slow and buggy. I also hate that metro thing that you cannot even change. If I didn't buy the transformer at this time, I would buy it anyway.
The other Windows tablets don't even come close to the functionality the Asus Transformer Pad series offers. You don't have to use crappy Windows 8 for a start.
I am usually an early adopter, but I am waiting to see how the Windows RT market develops. In time, I think it will be as rich as the iOS and Android app markets, but it ain't there yet.
I also like the open nature of Android over iOS or Win RT. Windows is aiming for a compromise between the two environments: less restrictive than Apple, but still not open to multiple markets and varying levels of quality control/risk on the Android platform, which a lot of users will prefer. But Win RT is restricted, unlike the x86 version of Windows 8 (and all previous Windows OSs). So I don;t see Android losing its appeal, and thus the Transformer models are still strong tablets with keyboard capabilities.
I haven't seen a Windows tablet yet that will touch this Transformer.
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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.
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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.
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The way I see it, Windows 8 Pro looks great. BUT it can wait for the next laptop upgrade, at which point all laptops will be a tablet hybrid. Plus, going by the Microsoft "every other OS" curse, Windows 8 will suck compared to Windows 9.
Not just Android, but also price point: you're looking at US$200 more for the RT equivalent of the TF300.
I want a tablet, not a PC, and all the reliability you get with a tablet. I don't think there's anything wrong with Windows or Microsoft - I have two Windows PCs and think it's great for working on my desktop - but it's horses for courses, and I like the open nature of Android. You can expect Microsoft to mess something up or stifle development at some point: if Android didn't exist and development was left up to Microsoft then it'd be a much worse environment.
I can't imagine that I'd have a real use for a hybrid tablet/laptop though, not until the prices for touch screens come down a lot. At work and in my office here, the laptops end up getting plugged into a larger monitor and external keyboard for comfort reasons.
Or maybe I'm just getting old and resistant to change.
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Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.
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The biggest downside for windows 8 rt is you can only run rt apps which are few. I'll consider later when there is more app support. As I see it now if it isn't included you are stuck, compared to hundreds of thousands of apps for android.
Obsolete? No I don't think that is accurate. Newer tabs out, yes. That is the tech world. Buy today and get more bells and whistles tomorrow or use a current product until there is truly a good reason to upgrade or spend your bucks to have the latest.
I know which is best for me but you are the only one who can make a proper decision for yourself.
If it is right for you then certainly get one. No one can or should fault you for that.
Good Luck!
Yep I'm with the idea for the price tag this is more capable and better software..... Plus they are right the touch screen laptop bit is more attractive.....
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Honestly I don't like the way windows 8 is layed out. I do like the tablet / laptop design. But seriously windows 8 does not look compelling to me, they are trying to hard to make it look like android .
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Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
Holysmoke99 said:
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.
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No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.
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8" is too small to run windows in a desktop environment. I can hardly find my way around with big fingers. so then you need apps to make the tablet usable but then you remember win8 apps are non existent.
I agree with all - 8 inch is way too small for real Windows desktop. Android is perfect for 7, 8 inch tablets.
Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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I checked that today.
the Dell seem to be a nice tablet but 32gig is not enough for window 8.
for now I stick with window 7 on a old netbook and my n7.
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Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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What are you talking about? Windows doesn't lack media options at all. In fact, it's one of the few platforms that can play basically everything. Even 1080p 10 bit h264 plays without dropped frames on a Dell Venue 8 Pro.
I have a Venue 8 Pro I'm playing with now, and I'm so tempted to switch at times. Metro performance is way ahead of any Android device in scrolling and loading. Metro IE is actually amazing fast and Chrome on desktop is about Chrome on Android. And despite running a full desktop and apps, it seems to keep programs in memory longer.
Unfortunately, while Metro app performance is really good, it's still seriously lacking in basic apps. There's basically 1 choice for IM outside of Skype. Only Metro apps have connected standby and get notifications when the tablet is asleep, so it's a major drawback. The virtual keyboard also doesn't seem to do any autocorrect on desktop, making typing a major pain.
I'm really torn. The 2 problems I have with it are major problems for me, but on the other hand, there's the performance and the ability to run basically any old program.
There's also a 64 GB version and microSD, so storage isn't that much of an issue.
No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I think it depends on what you want to use that tablet for. I agree with the others that the screen is too small for it to really be a productivity tablet, so then its more for consumables and I'd pick the higher resolution of the 7.
Rick
Holysmoke99 said:
Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00
I actually did the total opposite! I bought the Dell Venue Pro 8 and after a few days, returned it and picked up a N7, and I am very glad I did. The v8p is a very nice device, however I found that I prefer Android...and if one is using android then the N7 is boss!
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In case anyone hasn't noticed, Dell Venue 8 Pro will be on sale next Monday morning(Dec 9) for $99 at Microsoft Stores.
Just get both.
Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...
ben00 said:
Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00
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OP posted the price on Nov 26th and during the sale week of black friday, you responded 8 days later so ya.... I am sure there is most likely a price difference now on most items :laugh:
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Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...
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I am using this tool, no Bluetooth mouse is needed.
http://www.lovesummertrue.com/touchmousepointer/en-us/
I have to say after picking up the HP Omni 10 Win8.1 tablet, I've grown to prefer it over Android. I can actually watch any movie files and things just work and not in a limited way. Everything is smooth and no crashes...yet but it's still windows after all. Still have the N7FHD of course for app games and such.
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No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I have the venue 8pro. And a Nexus 7 2013.
Market penetration means nothing when it comes to personal use and functionality.
They are totally different devices.
Windows 8 isn't the best tablet os, but it's great if you want a portable device to do Microsoft work.
For regular use I prefer the Nexus because Android allows me to install
3rd party keyboards and I've grown accustomed to using SwiftKey. So for the Windows 8 tab my opinion is that the keyboard needs vast improvement if you're gonna use it like an android tab.
Speed wise venue 8 pro is not bad. I recommend getting the 64gb version cause 32 fills up fast!
-Wizzle
I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:
Holysmoke99 said:
I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:
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Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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player911 said:
Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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Dell Venue 8 Pro runs Full Windows 8, not RT.
On April 8, 2014, support and updates for Windows XP will no longer be available.
I would like to buy a latest win8 tablet instead of upgrade.
Now that i found a lot cheap here Mod Edit: Links removed, no idea for win8 tablet (used to be XP), please help.
huck.dave said:
On April 8, 2014, support and updates for Windows XP will no longer be available.
I would like to buy a latest win8 tablet instead of upgrade.
Now that i found a lot cheap here Mod Edit: Links removed no idea for win8 tablet (used to be XP), please help.
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I would highly recommend a trusted brand, Asus or Dell etc, therefore id recommend either the Dell venue pro(http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Venue-Pro-Tablet-Windows/dp/B00FEE7B1I)
or
The Asus t100ta, http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T...UTF8&qid=1396749319&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+t100
Thanks, I prefer Dell and i do not want a laptop. But the screen size is not enough for me, do u have other recommendations?
PS: I hope the price should not be high or it will exceed my budget.
Dell Venue 8 Pro, i have one and they are great for the price.
Saw this review of the Acer Iconia w3:
http://www.channelpronetwork.com/re...ginal-8-inch-windows-tablet-still-stands-tall
I'd say it would depend on what features your looking for: 10" screen vs 8", HDMI out, Dedicated USB port, Wacom Digitizer, 1080 screen resolution.
That's really the main differences on the tablets right now as most the cheaper ones feature almost the exact same atom processor and 2 GB ram.
My Opinion: (These exclude the more expensive Core based tablets)
Best for Price - Dell Venue 8 Pro
Best for Productivity - Asus Transformer Book and Keyboard Dock
Others:
Lenovo Thinkpad 8 - Gives you a 1080 screen and a HDMI port
Asus VivoTab Note 8 - Wacom Digitizer
U can find some great features in Dell, test and hope u like it!
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Saw this review of the Acer Iconia w3:
http://www.channelpronetwork.com/re...ginal-8-inch-windows-tablet-still-stands-tall
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I heard the screen on that has really bad colors
Hey guys I might be getting a hp stream 7 in a few days and was wondering if anyone here has one and if there any good, I'm only hoping for a bit of browsing and movie watching and light games, I've got a TF300T and a nexus 7 (2012) at the moment and was wondering if it would stand up to them for what I want it for, cheers for any info guys
So did you get it? was it all that you wanted?
I see they are onsale today, that's why I ask
http://slickdeals.net/f/7643372-32g...-tablet-with-1-yr-office-365-79-free-shipping
Yes I did get it mate and for the price its really good, it can handle casual games well and browsing is very good but on a 7 inch screen you tap the wrong think now and then but I'm used to it as I use my nexus 7 a lot, s I think its a great way to try windows 8.1 on a tablet and it didn't disappoint me
But now you write on the Windows PHONE 8 forum not Windows 8.X.
HP 7 Stream this is a TABLET with full Windows 8.1 not phone or phablet. For devices like as HP 7 Strem is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt
My bad mate calm down no need for the bold and capitals shouting just makes you look like a tool
This tablet isn't windows RT. It's full blown windows 8.1. But, I am quite disappointed at how windows 8.1 is on this tablet.. All the text and buttons are so small it's so hard to use. I have a kindle fire hdx with google launcher installed and it is a much more practical device for 7in touch screen. Windows 10 better have a more appropriate design for touch screens.. Otherwise, things arent' gonna look good for MSFT.
Yeah that's the biggest issues I've got to but it was cheap and I wanted to see if it was worth getting a bigger better one and I think yes it is
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This tablet isn't windows RT. It's full blown windows 8.1. But, I am quite disappointed at how windows 8.1 is on this tablet.. All the text and buttons are so small it's so hard to use. I have a kindle fire hdx with google launcher installed and it is a much more practical device for 7in touch screen. Windows 10 better have a more appropriate design for touch screens.. Otherwise, things arent' gonna look good for MSFT.
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I just won one and tested quickly and you need a keyboard and mouse to really take advantage of it. i think is great to have full office running on it or whatever app you want.
Have you got a good keyboard and mouse solution?
anyone tried linux on this?