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[Q] Windows 8 on existing tablets.

Does anybody know of a list or site that lists existing tablets that have had Windows 8 running on them.
Or if you have a Windows tablet now and have tried the dev preview what has been your experience?
I ask because I'm hoping to invest in a decent Windows base tablet for purposes of upgrading to Windows 8 instead of buying a "certified" overpriced tablet. Hopefully we will see manufacturers releasing better drivers for existing devices if they are needed aswell.

wetab
i have installed win 8 on My wetab and It runs pretty well. It has Somme hickups Bud i think thats more to win8 not being completely ready For release.

I have the Lenovo S10-3t Netbook with the monitor that swings around and turns it into a tablet... It runs awesome on this thing.

If you want a good slate you should look into the Samsung Series 7 slate. It has been reviewed as one of the best windows slates. Unfortunately for pricing it is not that great it starts at $1099 and goes to $1399.

I ordered a Dell st2220t touch screen display a while back in anticipation of a beta (I know this isn't a beta but close enough). Hooked it up to a cheap dual core ATOM/ION2 nettop and it runs really great. Wished there were more apps to test out and really live in the touch environment but it works very well. It kind of sucks not to have flash in the metro browser but I won't be surprised if Chrome 100.0 (or whatever version Google has out by release) gets turned into a alternative touch metro browser with Flash support baked in.
Altogether I think it was a pretty cheap experiment and well worth it: $230 for the monitor which was a steal BTW (1080p, touch AND freaking IPS) plus $220 for the nettop.

Ever think the Galaxy 10.1 will accommodate it? I would rather W8 than HC at the moment

I have a HP Touchsmart tm2t tablet and win8 runs extremely well on it, the capacitive multitouch screen works like it should with win8 and I've really been enjoying it so far. I put in a different HDD so i can switch between win8 and win7 just to play/test win8 when i want to.

corey457 said:
If you want a good slate you should look into the Samsung Series 7 slate. It has been reviewed as one of the best windows slates. Unfortunately for pricing it is not that great it starts at $1099 and goes to $1399.
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still far far far cheaper than a dell xt3, hp 2760p, Lenovo x220t for the power provided by the convertible
The difference between the current crop of slates and Microsoft slates/convertibles is that they're not toys. In that the tablet/convertible can stand in as a computer or a main PC
So what is being sought as a price isn't all that bad
That said I've tried on a hp 2740p, dell xt2, hp tm2, and Lenovo x220t. The installation is flawless and really extends the life of the dell xt2 and hp tm2, which are extremely old in comparison to the others I mentioned.
I was thinking that after playing with Windows 8 for so long on a convertible its hard to go to an ipad2, android tablet, hp touchpad because the experience and speed is just incredible. Even on the hp tm2, which is somewhere along 4 years old and it works extremely fast.

It works just fine on Iconia W500.

How did you get it on?? To the iconia
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How did you get it on?? To the iconia
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Iconia W500 is a slate running windows 7, just load it off an SD card and install... Did you think he loaded it on a Iconia A500, the A is for android so windows 8 current build wouldn't run on it...
W500 is available for a great price though, really thinking about it...

I have a Dell Inspiron Duo, and the dev preview runs really well. The performance is definitely smoother and faster than win7 on this device, which is very impressive!
The only issues I have so far are that windows 8 doesn't detect the accelerometer and compass in my device, let alone provide drivers. Although, this is a very early release to get developers used to the metro UI so its not really a problem as they'll probably be in the full release.
Secondly is that Microsoft office brings up compatibility errors and won't install (making do with the very capable open office suite) this will obviously be fixed though.
The one other niggle being with hardware not software. I wish Dell had put some volume hardware keys and a physical start button on the sides of the screen rather than having to open up to the keyboard each time I want to use them. (So this is really just my personal preference)
That being said, you can just swipe in from the right of the screen to bring up a start button and volume/ brightness settings among others.
So as far as upgrading win7 hardware, at the moment I would say nothing would really be stopping you. I would wait to see how windows 8 matures up to release before making a decision however.

dalethefarmer said:
Iconia W500 is a slate running windows 7, just load it off an SD card and install... Did you think he loaded it on a Iconia A500, the A is for android so windows 8 current build wouldn't run on it...
W500 is available for a great price though, really thinking about it...
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Sorry yes, i just saw iconia and hit reply would love the galaxy 10.1 to run it, looks good

I have an ASUS Ep-121 with Windows 8 loaded on it. It runs flawlessly. Better than it did with Windows 7 anyway.

I have been running WDP8 on my HP Slate with eveything working fine.
All the drivers installed fine as well.
Have had a couple of BSODs in two days, mostly when waking from sleep.
The automatic orientation rotation is super fast at least ten times faster and smoother than Win 7 !!
Overall a very good experience......
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Yep, Win8 on a Slate runs so far better than Win7 it's like the Tablet goes to warp speed! (W500) If fact I had a little trouble initially using win8 after installation because I was dragging my fingers sooo hard on the screen in order to enable a touch command, which didn't work! Turns out the touch is sooo sensitive you just need to brush your finger across the screen in order to access the Charms, Tabs, and switches!
Buttery smooth!

Posting from a W500 on Windows 8 right now, Windows 8 is absolutely made for it. That said, the metro browser is the only useful metro app and it's completely unstable.... but very snappy when it works. Since this is such an early version I have high hopes.
Side note: has anyone gotten the accelerometer working in 64-bit? Acer doesn't provide drivers and the manufacturer (Bosch) doesn't seem to either.

Had some issues with Accelerometer myself, although it was on the 32bit version.
You can try these options, however if it doesnt't work then you'll need to revert/re-install the 32bit version.
First, see if the bosch drivers install for 64bit, if they do then you can procede if they don' t then you won't have a functional G-sensor for 64bit.
Secondly, if the above works, you need to install the Acer ATI graphics driver (d/l from acer site, also the Application HID driver & Device Control won't hurt either)
After installation (and restart, yay!) Open the AMD Vision Engine Control Center program from the program list, it will tell you there is a compatibility conflict and do you wish to revert to .Net 3.5.1 (or whatever), Select yes. It will then download this driver from the net, and after installation: Voila!
(Of course you could just go into Windows Resources and revert to the aformentioned drivers, but the above was just to make sure )
Hope that works for you!

THis might help:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393329,00.asp
I ordered one of those even before this report came out. I will try it out and let you know how it goes!

Runs on Panasonic H1\H2

Office apps

Can someone tell me or post some link about experience with Nexus 7 and some office apps? I'm considering this device, but I desperatly need fluent and easy to use office applications. I would love to see how Nexus 7 and new Windows Office Web Apps works, mostly because they are compatible with desktop Office documents.
I'm slightly worried because it is only 7" screen, thats why I'm asking. If not, what device should I be looking for? Should I wait for some tablets with Windows 8? Thanks

LadislavBohm said:
Can someone tell me or post some link about experience with Nexus 7 and some office apps? I'm considering this device, but I desperatly need fluent and easy to use office applications. I would love to see how Nexus 7 and new Windows Office Web Apps works, mostly because they are compatible with desktop Office documents.
I'm slightly worried because it is only 7" screen, thats why I'm asking. If not, what device should I be looking for? Should I wait for some tablets with Windows 8? Thanks
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Google Drive is free and you can easily edit the documents on the 7" screen. I also have paid QuickOffice Pro and OfficeSuite Pro and I prefer QuickOffice out of those 2.
Bottom line: 7" screen doesn't cause any limitation in document editing. It actually helps because it can be easily held and typed on.

Kingsoft Office is free and compatible with Microsoft Office documents. Haven't used it in anger yet so can't comment on the suitability of a 7" device for extended periods but have entered text into the fields on an appraisal sheet for work and it did the job.
If you want to make minor changes to a document then a tablet is great but don't expect to write a novel on any tablet. For the same reason you wouldn't write a novel on a netbook, a full size keyboard is best.
edit: Also, go play with a 7" device in a store to get a feel of what you personally think is comfortable. I agree with jazzboyrules that the tablet is easy to handle because, to me, it is small and light therefore can hold with one hand and type with the other (or use thumbs) but you might want something larger because although it has a bigger screen and is heavier you'll think you'll rest it on a tabletop when using it mostly.

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Thanks for replies! I would still like to see Nexus 7 (or even Kindle Fire, which is almost same in terms of screen size and resolution) running Microsoft Wep Apps, especially the new ones, released like 2 days ago. It seems to be a great way to view and edit most office documents and synchronize them via SkyDrive.

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Can someone tell me or post some link about experience with Nexus 7 and some office apps? I'm considering this device, but I desperatly need fluent and easy to use office applications. I would love to see how Nexus 7 and new Windows Office Web Apps works, mostly because they are compatible with desktop Office documents.
I'm slightly worried because it is only 7" screen, thats why I'm asking. If not, what device should I be looking for? Should I wait for some tablets with Windows 8? Thanks
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Is the TF300 a bit outta shape? (Obsolete)

Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.

I still think TF300 is the best. It is Android (not Windows crappy SO) and my dock gives me more battery life. Windows 8 apps are sloooow to load, surface comes with many problems related to sound, and well, I'ts a Windows - after some months it will start to stay slow and buggy. I also hate that metro thing that you cannot even change. If I didn't buy the transformer at this time, I would buy it anyway.

The other Windows tablets don't even come close to the functionality the Asus Transformer Pad series offers. You don't have to use crappy Windows 8 for a start.

I am usually an early adopter, but I am waiting to see how the Windows RT market develops. In time, I think it will be as rich as the iOS and Android app markets, but it ain't there yet.
I also like the open nature of Android over iOS or Win RT. Windows is aiming for a compromise between the two environments: less restrictive than Apple, but still not open to multiple markets and varying levels of quality control/risk on the Android platform, which a lot of users will prefer. But Win RT is restricted, unlike the x86 version of Windows 8 (and all previous Windows OSs). So I don;t see Android losing its appeal, and thus the Transformer models are still strong tablets with keyboard capabilities.

I haven't seen a Windows tablet yet that will touch this Transformer.
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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.

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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.
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The way I see it, Windows 8 Pro looks great. BUT it can wait for the next laptop upgrade, at which point all laptops will be a tablet hybrid. Plus, going by the Microsoft "every other OS" curse, Windows 8 will suck compared to Windows 9.

Not just Android, but also price point: you're looking at US$200 more for the RT equivalent of the TF300.
I want a tablet, not a PC, and all the reliability you get with a tablet. I don't think there's anything wrong with Windows or Microsoft - I have two Windows PCs and think it's great for working on my desktop - but it's horses for courses, and I like the open nature of Android. You can expect Microsoft to mess something up or stifle development at some point: if Android didn't exist and development was left up to Microsoft then it'd be a much worse environment.
I can't imagine that I'd have a real use for a hybrid tablet/laptop though, not until the prices for touch screens come down a lot. At work and in my office here, the laptops end up getting plugged into a larger monitor and external keyboard for comfort reasons.
Or maybe I'm just getting old and resistant to change.

qwahchees said:
Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.
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The biggest downside for windows 8 rt is you can only run rt apps which are few. I'll consider later when there is more app support. As I see it now if it isn't included you are stuck, compared to hundreds of thousands of apps for android.
Obsolete? No I don't think that is accurate. Newer tabs out, yes. That is the tech world. Buy today and get more bells and whistles tomorrow or use a current product until there is truly a good reason to upgrade or spend your bucks to have the latest.
I know which is best for me but you are the only one who can make a proper decision for yourself.
If it is right for you then certainly get one. No one can or should fault you for that.
Good Luck!

Yep I'm with the idea for the price tag this is more capable and better software..... Plus they are right the touch screen laptop bit is more attractive.....
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Honestly I don't like the way windows 8 is layed out. I do like the tablet / laptop design. But seriously windows 8 does not look compelling to me, they are trying to hard to make it look like android .
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I am considering returning Nexus 7 2013 for Dell Venue 8 Pro?

Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?

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Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.

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No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.
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8" is too small to run windows in a desktop environment. I can hardly find my way around with big fingers. so then you need apps to make the tablet usable but then you remember win8 apps are non existent.

I agree with all - 8 inch is way too small for real Windows desktop. Android is perfect for 7, 8 inch tablets.

Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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I checked that today.
the Dell seem to be a nice tablet but 32gig is not enough for window 8.
for now I stick with window 7 on a old netbook and my n7.

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Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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What are you talking about? Windows doesn't lack media options at all. In fact, it's one of the few platforms that can play basically everything. Even 1080p 10 bit h264 plays without dropped frames on a Dell Venue 8 Pro.
I have a Venue 8 Pro I'm playing with now, and I'm so tempted to switch at times. Metro performance is way ahead of any Android device in scrolling and loading. Metro IE is actually amazing fast and Chrome on desktop is about Chrome on Android. And despite running a full desktop and apps, it seems to keep programs in memory longer.
Unfortunately, while Metro app performance is really good, it's still seriously lacking in basic apps. There's basically 1 choice for IM outside of Skype. Only Metro apps have connected standby and get notifications when the tablet is asleep, so it's a major drawback. The virtual keyboard also doesn't seem to do any autocorrect on desktop, making typing a major pain.
I'm really torn. The 2 problems I have with it are major problems for me, but on the other hand, there's the performance and the ability to run basically any old program.
There's also a 64 GB version and microSD, so storage isn't that much of an issue.

No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I think it depends on what you want to use that tablet for. I agree with the others that the screen is too small for it to really be a productivity tablet, so then its more for consumables and I'd pick the higher resolution of the 7.
Rick

Holysmoke99 said:
Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00

I actually did the total opposite! I bought the Dell Venue Pro 8 and after a few days, returned it and picked up a N7, and I am very glad I did. The v8p is a very nice device, however I found that I prefer Android...and if one is using android then the N7 is boss!
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In case anyone hasn't noticed, Dell Venue 8 Pro will be on sale next Monday morning(Dec 9) for $99 at Microsoft Stores.
Just get both.

Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...

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Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00
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OP posted the price on Nov 26th and during the sale week of black friday, you responded 8 days later so ya.... I am sure there is most likely a price difference now on most items :laugh:

[TSON] said:
Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...
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I am using this tool, no Bluetooth mouse is needed.
http://www.lovesummertrue.com/touchmousepointer/en-us/

I have to say after picking up the HP Omni 10 Win8.1 tablet, I've grown to prefer it over Android. I can actually watch any movie files and things just work and not in a limited way. Everything is smooth and no crashes...yet but it's still windows after all. Still have the N7FHD of course for app games and such.

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No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I have the venue 8pro. And a Nexus 7 2013.
Market penetration means nothing when it comes to personal use and functionality.
They are totally different devices.
Windows 8 isn't the best tablet os, but it's great if you want a portable device to do Microsoft work.
For regular use I prefer the Nexus because Android allows me to install
3rd party keyboards and I've grown accustomed to using SwiftKey. So for the Windows 8 tab my opinion is that the keyboard needs vast improvement if you're gonna use it like an android tab.
Speed wise venue 8 pro is not bad. I recommend getting the 64gb version cause 32 fills up fast!
-Wizzle

I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:

Holysmoke99 said:
I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:
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Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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Dell Venue 8 Pro runs Full Windows 8, not RT.

Making the HP Stream 7 more mobile?

I just bought the HP Stream 7 and hardware wise it is a pretty great device, but software is a different story. Yes full Windows 8.1 might sound great at first, but it is on a 7" screen with touch controls making it very difficult to use when not hooked up to a mouse and keyboard. I was wondering if anyone as anyone been able to make Windows 8.1 more mobile friendly? Web browsing is terrible because it loads the desktop version of everything meaning no mobile support anywhere forcing you to try and tap on links that are extremely small. Maybe a modified user agent for IE11 could fix that? I'd even accept any sort of hacking on this thing, like maybe an Ubuntu OS with some kind of touch friendly front end. What have you guys done with your small 7 - 8" tablets to make them more usable when mobile?

I second this. Have mine comming in in a few days. This was exactly my concern. Anyone with experiences with Windows on small screens?
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I got a stream 8 and I basically purchased a stylus for it. I recommend the adonit jot pro. Kinda pricey (29.99), but is worth it considering g the headaches I got trying g to use with does 8.1 with my finger