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I do not and have not ever owned a computer. I do love Windows Phone. So tempted am I after looking at god knows how many YT videos of the CP of 8. So. Tempted. What tablet do you guys recommend? What laptop? This is my first computer and I, quite frankly, expect it to last for a good while.
I know it's buggy. I know it's a beta. But damn does it look sexy.
If you want to get a tablet that can run Windows 8, is well-built, and modern-looking, and you want it before the proper Windows 8 tablets come out in the second half of the year... then the Samsung Series 7 Slate would be my recommendation.
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If you want to get a tablet that can run Windows 8, is well-built, and modern-looking, and you want it before the proper Windows 8 tablets come out in the second half of the year... then the Samsung Series 7 Slate would be my recommendation.
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Quite a hefty price tag on that. Every YT review mentions that the viewing angles are subpar. Your assessment as well? Otherwise, sexy specs, indeed. Added to the list, thanks.
Wait for windows 8 to launch and get a quality laptop with a touch screen. They will be flooding the market then and $750 will probably be enough for decent model. You may also want to avoid a tablet for windows 8 since software support for the ARM architecture is going to take a little time. A laptop with touch screen will allow you to fully enjoy the touch features metro brings while also being able to run everyday software and not just the simple metro apps.
I am running Windows 8 CP on a JooJoo (Intel Atom N270 and Nvidia ION), and it's running well. But I am jealous when I watch other people with Samsung Series 7 Slate running same tasks 3-4 times faster. So I would say that Samsung Slate deserves its money if you want power. But if you are looking for something affordable take a look at Winpad P100 with dual-core N570 and Hi-Definition 1366*768 screen. It will cost you around 450$. From what I read it is quite good compared to other Tablet PCs.
Cheers!
I owned a Samsung Slate for a week and I wouldn't recommend it.
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I am running Windows 8 CP on a JooJoo (Intel Atom N270 and Nvidia ION), and it's running well. But I am jealous when I watch other people with Samsung Series 7 Slate running same tasks 3-4 times faster. So I would say that Samsung Slate deserves its money if you want power. But if you are looking for something affordable take a look at Winpad P100 with dual-core N570 and Hi-Definition 1366*768 screen. It will cost you around 450$. From what I read it is quite good compared to other Tablet PCs.
Cheers!
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This thing looks pretty good and when I googled it I found a website that it selling it for $349 (single core) and add $50 for the Dual Core so its only $400 bucks...
Acer Iconia Tab W500
I think one of the challenges you are going to run into right now is that no hardware manufacturer is really making a true Win8-optimized Laptop. Buying anything at the moment is kind of a crap-shoot as a result.
If you are truly looking owning something that needs to last a few years you may be better waiting until the product goes gold and Dell, HP, Lenovo (and even Nokia if rumors are to be believed) begin coming out with product that will take advantage of the touch-enabled interface. I know I'm not making any expensive personal decisions until then as I expect to see a lot of interesting stuff at that point.
For testing purposes I've been using an Acer Iconia Tab W500 since the DP release that was boosted with an 80GB SSD. Total cost was about $600.00 (Tablet plus SSD bought off eBay) and as a Tablet PC for testing it is a great deal for the money.
Wait until fully win8 compliant hardware available
To be able to use a Win8 tablet like any of the other modern tablets, it needs to be able to allow Metro apps (like mail, feeds, weather) to update themselves while the device is asleep.
To do this, the hardware has to support the Connected Standby (CS) state.
The CS presenter at the BUILD conference stated that the tablet handed out there (same as Samsung Slate XE700T) did NOT support CS.
That is why I stopped being interested in the Slate.
I would suggest waiting until devices running the full finished Win8 come out as they would most likely support all the designed-in Win8 functionality.
To those who think that a laptop with touch will do, I say that the Samsung Slate has shown that a dual core i5 64bit tablet is easily capable of replacing almost all current laptops, but in a more flexible and convenient format. I predict that tablets with keyboards will replace laptops almost completely (come the next replacement opportunity).
my recomendation...
If you absolutely can't wait, I have an Acer Iconia Tab W500.
10.1 Inches, AMD Fusion C-60 (yes, not C-50) dual core @1.0Ghz with Radeon HD6290 graphics, 2Gb of memory and a 32 Gb SSD for storage.
I got it with the Keyboard dock which ads a Lan and makes it an awesome choice.
Better by far than any atom out there.
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If you absolutely can't wait, I have an Acer Iconia Tab W500.
10.1 Inches, AMD Fusion C-60 (yes, not C-50) dual core @1.0Ghz with Radeon HD6290 graphics, 2Gb of memory and a 32 Gb SSD for storage.
I got it with the Keyboard dock which ads a Lan and makes it an awesome choice.
Better by far than any atom out there.
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I second this. The W500 is so awesome. I have the version with C-50 and even this one does most games and programmes amazingly fast!
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I got the Samsung Slate. My reasoning is on my blog at gadgets dot itwriting dot com - I have too few posts here to give the link unfortunately. Search for Samsung.
Frankly, the device is not that well designed. The keyboard (optional extra) is particularly annoying, because it has no real on/off button. Very hard to pack a keyboard in such a way that keys do not get pressed accidentally. Consequently, if you pack keyboard + slate in your bag, with the slate on sleep, the keyboard wakes it up and bad things happen. Ended up removing batteries from keyboard when not in use, and they rattle around at the bottom of the bag.
Of course you don't need to get the keyboard; and with Windows 8 it works better than with 7 although I have not got the rotation sensor working yet. The Windows button doesn't work quite right, especially after it has been on for a while, but no great loss. Performance is great, and I don't regret the purchase given that I really need to use Windows 8 NOW.
If you can hold off though, I would definitely wait for devices that are designed for Windows 8.
Tim
^^ the Series 7 Slate keyboard has an off switch. Its the same button you click to put it in pairing mode.
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^^ the Series 7 Slate keyboard has an off switch. Its the same button you click to put it in pairing mode.
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I have found it works OK as an "on" switch but not as an "off" switch!
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Hardware wise what's coming in the next few months?
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Hardware wise what's coming in the next few months?
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Probably nothing. You won't see new devices until Win8 is ready to be released.
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Probably nothing. You won't see new devices until Win8 is ready to be released.
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Well, nuts. I convinced my brother to drop it onto his laptop. Absolutely fantastic for me, as a long time Windows user he was horrified. A lot, I think comes down to a fear of change and the misconception that you can't really do anything with the MetroTop. As a WP lover I couldn't be happier and wished they didn't even include the desktop side.
I'll look around at a couple suggestions, perhaps with the fever surrounding the iPad 3 I can snatch something cheap.
I'm thinking I might like a Windows 8 x86 tablet to play with. No point for me to wait for the Microsoft Surface Pro, because I expect it'll be $700+ and that's way too much for a toy I'll just be goofing off with in the livingroom while I watch TV. I'd be interested in recommendations, preferably $350 or less.
My current tablet is an HP Touchpad running CM9 ICS and it's pretty much perfect as far as screen size goes. Using that as a guide, HP Slate looks too small. Acer Iconia W500 looks pretty decent, but they are still kind of pricey even used. Maybe if I get super lucky, willing to wait several months to snipe an auction, I can get a 2nd hand one for under $350 on eBay. I'm also not super thrilled about widescreen on a tablet since I won't watch too many movies on it.
Those 9.7" Chinese tablets for around $350 look appealing, because I think they use the same 9.7" IPS screen as the older iPads and my HP Touchpad. I greatly prefer a 4:3 screen if possible because they're nice for web browsing in both orientations. There are identical looking China tabs with different brands and models, I saw FSL F979, Wopad R92, AnyPC, and a bunch of others. This is a vid of the AnyPC version running Win8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vTYGKSm54c&feature=player_embedded
Looks reasonably responsive in the vid.
Anyone have one of these China tabs? They all look the same, are they? I wonder if they're all manufactured by the same company and the name is slapped on by distributors. The only customer review I could find on Google was a guy on a Spanish forum really liked his Wopad R92. They also dual-boot Android x86 out of the box, although it's probably possible to do this with any x86 tablet with a little work.
Skytex Skypad looks like an even nicer 4:3 x86 tablet with dual core processor, but at $700, it's a bit more than I'd like to spend.
Is there anything else I should be looking at? Maybe something thinner? So far all these x86 tablets are pretty fat. W500 is around 16mm I think, and China tabs around 17mm. My 13.7mm HP Touchpad is already thicker than I would like.
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I'm thinking I might like a Windows 8 x86 tablet to play with. No point for me to wait for the Microsoft Surface Pro, because I expect it'll be $700+ and that's way too much for a toy I'll just be goofing off with in the livingroom while I watch TV. I'd be interested in recommendations, preferably $350 or less.
My current tablet is an HP Touchpad running CM9 ICS and it's pretty much perfect as far as screen size goes. Using that as a guide, HP Slate looks too small. Acer Iconia W500 looks pretty decent, but they are still kind of pricey even used. Maybe if I get super lucky, willing to wait several months to snipe an auction, I can get a 2nd hand one for under $350 on eBay. I'm also not super thrilled about widescreen on a tablet since I won't watch too many movies on it.
Those 9.7" Chinese tablets for around $350 look appealing, because I think they use the same 9.7" IPS screen as the older iPads and my HP Touchpad. I greatly prefer a 4:3 screen if possible because they're nice for web browsing in both orientations. There are identical looking China tabs with different brands and models, I saw FSL F979, Wopad R92, AnyPC, and a bunch of others. This is a vid of the AnyPC version running Win8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vTYGKSm54c&feature=player_embedded
Looks reasonably responsive in the vid.
Anyone have one of these China tabs? They all look the same, are they? I wonder if they're all manufactured by the same company and the name is slapped on by distributors. The only customer review I could find on Google was a guy on a Spanish forum really liked his Wopad R92. They also dual-boot Android x86 out of the box, although it's probably possible to do this with any x86 tablet with a little work.
Skytex Skypad looks like an even nicer 4:3 x86 tablet with dual core processor, but at $700, it's a bit more than I'd like to spend.
Is there anything else I should be looking at? Maybe something thinner? So far all these x86 tablets are pretty fat. W500 is around 16mm I think, and China tabs around 17mm. My 13.7mm HP Touchpad is already thicker than I would like.
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get an acer w500 tablet, its fast, reliable, and it is cheap compared to other good windows tabs, i got mine for 440 on ebay with free shipping
I agree the W500 from acer is the way to go. I got mine for 375 with shipping from ebay.
works great with win 8
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Me too, got mine for £275 with shipping off ebay!
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Me too, got mine for £275 with shipping off ebay!
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Really? But in auction or in "fast buy"?
Is native with Windows 8 RC?
If not, what driver do you use with it?
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Really? But in auction or in "fast buy"?
Is native with Windows 8 RC?
If not, what driver do you use with it?
Thanks.
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just use the drivers off the acer website, you have to install windows 8 yourself but most of the drivers work, all you need are bluetooth, rotation and the acer device control program
i personally installed the amd graphics drivers because amd's control software for the c60 apu is amazing(you can control clock speeds, power consumption, ect.)
and what he paid for his tablet is about 430usd(assuming it is the British pound) but i have seen refurbished units for as low as $300, i personally wouldnt get refurbished though as you will be stuck with the amd c50 which is slower than the amd c60 by 333mhz(the c60 has a turbo core of 1.33ghz but it runs naively at 1ghz)
what do you think about the tablet : Lenovo ideapad P1 link
or Hasee A110 (or A10)
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what do you think about the tablet : Lenovo ideapad P1 link
or Hasee A110 (or A10)
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what are the specs on that tablet.
windows 8 tablet
Windows 8 clearly has plans for the production of plenty of tablets; in fact, dell has already announced a partnership with the Windows to release a tablet in early 2012. This could be the first tablet that is released, but it will not be the only one.
because all features and software available in windows 8.just use the drivers off the acer website, you have to install windows 8 yourself but most of the drivers work, all you need are bluetooth, rotation and the acer device control program
i personally installed the amd graphics drivers because amd's control software for the c60 apu is amazing(you can control clock speeds, power consumption.ARM or advanced RISC machine is a 32 bit reduced instruction set computer, which is currently used in low end technologies such as phones and tablets. Originally, they were developed for computing, but the x86 family took over this market and now dominate it. However, ARM has a tight grip on the mobile phone and tablet market. An astonishing 98% of phones sold last year used ARM systems.and huge benefits of arm...simplicity and higher performance.
I had a w500 that I used for a while, and it was great with Windows 8. I got it for $250 on CL with the dock and everything. I was able to get an Asus EP121 on eBay for $450 and I'm just thrilled with it. Its missing the stylus and Bluetooth keyboard, but I wouldn't use those, anyway. I got the 64gb version. I would've liked the Samsung series 7 slate, but I just couldn't fund them for under $700.
W500 is a good cheap tablet, but it's ugly and very slow. Don't expect to be running any javascript metro apps on it without lag.
It's surprisingly solid in desktop mode for basic programs and stuff.
Thanks for the recommends, looks like Acer W500 is unanimous. I also saw it's not too hard to find a used one for <$300 on eBay, although I don't see any way to tell if it's a C-50 or C-60 version.
However, the more use my HP Touchpad, I think I won't be able to tolerate going back to a 10.1" widescreen tab. I had one before, and hated using it in portrait because it's so narrow and tall that way. With my HP Touchpad, I almost always use it portrait because I mainly use it for reading/web and never watch movies. I'll probably just stick with my HP Touchpad until a good and inexpensive 4:3 Windows x86 tab comes out.
Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.
I still think TF300 is the best. It is Android (not Windows crappy SO) and my dock gives me more battery life. Windows 8 apps are sloooow to load, surface comes with many problems related to sound, and well, I'ts a Windows - after some months it will start to stay slow and buggy. I also hate that metro thing that you cannot even change. If I didn't buy the transformer at this time, I would buy it anyway.
The other Windows tablets don't even come close to the functionality the Asus Transformer Pad series offers. You don't have to use crappy Windows 8 for a start.
I am usually an early adopter, but I am waiting to see how the Windows RT market develops. In time, I think it will be as rich as the iOS and Android app markets, but it ain't there yet.
I also like the open nature of Android over iOS or Win RT. Windows is aiming for a compromise between the two environments: less restrictive than Apple, but still not open to multiple markets and varying levels of quality control/risk on the Android platform, which a lot of users will prefer. But Win RT is restricted, unlike the x86 version of Windows 8 (and all previous Windows OSs). So I don;t see Android losing its appeal, and thus the Transformer models are still strong tablets with keyboard capabilities.
I haven't seen a Windows tablet yet that will touch this Transformer.
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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.
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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.
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The way I see it, Windows 8 Pro looks great. BUT it can wait for the next laptop upgrade, at which point all laptops will be a tablet hybrid. Plus, going by the Microsoft "every other OS" curse, Windows 8 will suck compared to Windows 9.
Not just Android, but also price point: you're looking at US$200 more for the RT equivalent of the TF300.
I want a tablet, not a PC, and all the reliability you get with a tablet. I don't think there's anything wrong with Windows or Microsoft - I have two Windows PCs and think it's great for working on my desktop - but it's horses for courses, and I like the open nature of Android. You can expect Microsoft to mess something up or stifle development at some point: if Android didn't exist and development was left up to Microsoft then it'd be a much worse environment.
I can't imagine that I'd have a real use for a hybrid tablet/laptop though, not until the prices for touch screens come down a lot. At work and in my office here, the laptops end up getting plugged into a larger monitor and external keyboard for comfort reasons.
Or maybe I'm just getting old and resistant to change.
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Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.
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The biggest downside for windows 8 rt is you can only run rt apps which are few. I'll consider later when there is more app support. As I see it now if it isn't included you are stuck, compared to hundreds of thousands of apps for android.
Obsolete? No I don't think that is accurate. Newer tabs out, yes. That is the tech world. Buy today and get more bells and whistles tomorrow or use a current product until there is truly a good reason to upgrade or spend your bucks to have the latest.
I know which is best for me but you are the only one who can make a proper decision for yourself.
If it is right for you then certainly get one. No one can or should fault you for that.
Good Luck!
Yep I'm with the idea for the price tag this is more capable and better software..... Plus they are right the touch screen laptop bit is more attractive.....
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Honestly I don't like the way windows 8 is layed out. I do like the tablet / laptop design. But seriously windows 8 does not look compelling to me, they are trying to hard to make it look like android .
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Asus is just about to release two new products, the "new Asus Transformer Pad" and the Fonepad 7.
I was surprised to see the Transformer using a Tegra chip, since it isn't a big deal against its competitor. Also, the camera has a lower resolution. The screen is really cool and the other props are great too. I think for now I'll stick with my TF300T. It still works without issues and Android 4.3 is rocking on here. But the Fonepad 7 have my attention. I wonder how does it go against the Nexus 7 with 3G.
What do you guys think?
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Asus is just about to release two new products, the "new Asus Transformer Pad" and the Fonepad 7.
What do you guys think?
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The new transformer (TF701T) is the successor to the TF700 (not the TF300). Looks like a substantial improvement in specs, and Tegra 4 is (supposed to be) considerably better than Tegra 3, multiple times faster both in CPU and GPU performance. But unknown how it fairs against the best of the current competition. Unfortunately, the Tegra 4 GPU is a little behind the times in terms of API support (still at DX 9 level, OpenGL ES 2), the Tegra 5 will fix that next year. This may, or may not, be important with some games and modern graphics-reliant apps.
I am not replacing my TF300 anytime soon either. It serves me fine still. Holding on until 2014...
YOU FORGOT THE ASUS BOOK TRIO!!!!!
Well I'm tempted because of the higher resolution and the better ppi but not sure just yet. Wanted to buy the new S Galaxy also so I'm taking a wait and see approach here.
Having said that, I would never pay more than 500 euro for my tablet the Trio while nice will for sure be too expensive. Not a big fan of Windows 8 and the ehole swipe gesture thing.
I will go with tf 701 for android or the asus taichi if you like windows.
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Well I'm tempted because of the higher resolution and the better ppi but not sure just yet. Wanted to buy the new S Galaxy also so I'm taking a wait and see approach here.
Having said that, I would never pay more than 500 euro for my tablet the Trio while nice will for sure be too expensive. Not a big fan of Windows 8 and the ehole swipe gesture thing.
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The asus Trio isnt a tablet, so putting a 500 euro price on tablets doesnt make sense. Its an actual touch screen laptop, with an i7, that also just happens to have android. I for one cant wait. If its under 1000 USD Ill likely pick it up I love the look / design ( although it would likely never be undocked ).
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The asus Trio isnt a tablet, so putting a 500 euro price on tablets doesnt make sense. Its an actual touch screen laptop, with an i7, that also just happens to have android. I for one cant wait. If its under 1000 USD Ill likely pick it up I love the look / design ( although it would likely never be undocked ).
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I understand where you are coming from, but paying around 1000 USD for a small screen and underpowered ultrabook doesn't make sense to me, I know it will run smoothly and featuring an i7 is impressive but: the battery-life will also be a big factor.
I know it may be a personal preference but I'd rather have a 500 USD tablet and a 700 USD ultrabook.
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I understand where you are coming from, but paying around 1000 USD for a small screen and underpowered ultrabook doesn't make sense to me, I know it will run smoothly and featuring an i7 is impressive but: the battery-life will also be a big factor.
I know it may be a personal preference but I'd rather have a 500 USD tablet and a 700 USD ultrabook.
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Not to pick on you, but I hardly consider anything with an i7 underpowered. The intel atom processor only powers the android system. The battery life specs are listed for each on their own. When combined, they also add power to whichever system is on. Ive seen speculation of 16/18 hrs docked on the android side, and 7-10 hours running windows. This device has more much more power and features than a macbook air. Any 4th generation i7 touchscreen laptop wont be cheap my friend.
Personally I love my tf300t and replaced my horrible asus prime with it. I had an i7 macbook pro but a friend needed something decent, and I wasnt using it since the asus became my primary device ( aside from my phone...a note 2 ). I also have a custom built i7 3770k / 32gb ram desktop at home hooked up to 2 - 26" samsung screens. Thats where the bulk of my work takes place whem im home.
There are always times while im out that I wish I had a windows device with me for microsoft specific tasks. Since I always have my asus with me. Swapping the tf300 out for something like the trio would make perfect sense. I would still have the horsepower to edit / render video and run photoshop on the fly and still not have to be plugged in all day as Android would be the main system in use. Also its a pain going to the desktop in the basement anytime I needed to use odin / fastboot / adb, or need to do something light but in a hurry.
You are absolutely correct tho, its all a matter of personal opinion.
http://press.asus.com/events/asus-transformer-book-trio.php
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-announces-the-transformer-book-trio-likens-it-to-a-laptop/
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Not to pick on you, but I hardly consider anything with an i7 underpowered. The intel atom processor only powers the android system. The battery life specs are listed for each on their own. When combined, they also add power to whichever system is on. Ive seen speculation of 16/18 hrs docked on the android side, and 7-10 hours running windows. This device has more much more power and features than a macbook air. Any 4th generation i7 touchscreen laptop wont be cheap my friend.
Personally I love my tf300t and replaced my horrible asus prime with it. I had an i7 macbook pro but a friend needed something decent, and I wasnt using it since the asus became my primary device ( aside from my phone...a note 2 ). I also have a custom built i7 3770k / 32gb ram desktop at home hooked up to 2 - 26" samsung screens. Thats where the bulk of my work takes place whem im home.
There are always times while im out that I wish I had a windows device with me for microsoft specific tasks. Since I always have my asus with me. Swapping the tf300 out for something like the trio would make perfect sense. I would still have the horsepower to edit / render video and run photoshop on the fly and still not have to be plugged in all day as Android would be the main system in use. Also its a pain going to the desktop in the basement anytime I needed to use odin / fastboot / adb, or need to do something light but in a hurry.
You are absolutely correct tho, its all a matter of personal opinion.
http://press.asus.com/events/asus-transformer-book-trio.php
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-announces-the-transformer-book-trio-likens-it-to-a-laptop/
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I called it underpowered compared to "only" ultra-books of the new generation. Since I will never use a laptop, ultrabook without a DVD or Blueray option the Macbook was never of any interest for me. I've had a Vaio for a few years, but the battery life sucked (2 hours!)
I am not going to judge the Trio before I've tested it, but I am just a bit skeptical if Asus or any manufacturer at this point can deliver the promised Windows & Android experience at a reasonable price with enough power. Sure, the specs and datasheets are looking fine but we'll see.
Feeling with you I know especially when it comes down to doing office stuff I'd love to have a real desktop instead of my tablet to work on.
For now I am very excited for the TF 701 and taking a wait and see approach with the Trio.
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Forgot to mention, that running Windows 8 will also enable you to dualboot Linux Mint, Ubuntu so that's a great choice I didn't think off.
I added the more tabs to the list
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I called it underpowered compared to "only" ultra-books of the new generation. Since I will never use a laptop, ultrabook without a DVD or Blueray option the Macbook was never of any interest for me. I've had a Vaio for a few years, but the battery life sucked (2 hours!)
I am not going to judge the Trio before I've tested it, but I am just a bit skeptical if Asus or any manufacturer at this point can deliver the promised Windows & Android experience at a reasonable price with enough power. Sure, the specs and datasheets are looking fine but we'll see.
Feeling with you I know especially when it comes down to doing office stuff I'd love to have a real desktop instead of my tablet to work on.
For now I am very excited for the TF 701 and taking a wait and see approach with the Trio.
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Forgot to mention, that running Windows 8 will also enable you to dualboot Linux Mint, Ubuntu so that's a great choice I didn't think off.
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Wait and see is exactly what im doing. I am also interested in the new Padfone. It looks like an awesome combination of tech, minus windows 8. I always use my tablet and phone together anyway. The fact that I could use the phone to power the Tablet and still have a keyboard dock... just awesome
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Wait and see is exactly what im doing. I am also interested in the new Padfone. It looks like an awesome combination of tech, minus windows 8. I always use my tablet and phone together anyway. The fact that I could use the phone to power the Tablet and still have a keyboard dock... just awesome
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I really like some of the ideas Asus has and how they are putting it together, been a fan of this company since building my first custom PC their mainboards are just the best bar none by far.
Would be awesome, if Asus could find a way to make the battery removable and expand the RAM.
for me too
frankgreimes said:
I really like some of the ideas Asus has and how they are putting it together, been a fan of this company since building my first custom PC their mainboards are just the best bar none by far.
Would be awesome, if Asus could find a way to make the battery removable and expand the RAM.
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I added the video of the new thingy
hello all,
my university gives a 400 pounds credit to buy from studentstore.uk i was planning to get a windows 8 tab but they dont stock sony,asus or dell products .i was planning to get a baytrail tablet like dell venue pro 11.with a maximum budget of 600 pounds(400+200).
so my only option is to get an acer w700 with i3,4gb ram 64 gb memory available for 570 pounds.or wait till samsung,lenovo and acer brings in 10-11 inch baytrail tablet.
so do you think its a good idea to get w700 or just wait till others comes with baytrail tablets(any idea when on earth they will launch it ).?
At this late date, what you see (in the MS store) are what'll be available for this Q4.
My suggestion is to ignore the one-device-fits-all PR hype and get two devices: a 12"-13" laptop for productivity, and a separate tablet for portable use. The meat-and-potato work box comes first, obviously. For my college days, I used a 12" IBM Thinkpad X series, which I lugged everywhere. It wasn't light, but it was built like a tank. The bottom line for me wasn't about best speed or battery life, but good old reliability.
rkoforever90 said:
hello all,
my university gives a 400 pounds credit to buy from studentstore.uk i was planning to get a windows 8 tab but they dont stock sony,asus or dell products .i was planning to get a baytrail tablet like dell venue pro 11.with a maximum budget of 600 pounds(400+200).
so my only option is to get an acer w700 with i3,4gb ram 64 gb memory available for 570 pounds.or wait till samsung,lenovo and acer brings in 10-11 inch baytrail tablet.
so do you think its a good idea to get w700 or just wait till others comes with baytrail tablets(any idea when on earth they will launch it ).?
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Your choice definitely depends on what you plan to do with it. Do you want something that will serve as a PC as well as a tablet, or just a portable typing device, or just for entertainment? I've also heard that those who do computer science/programming degrees, you'll want something a lot more powerful. However, for humanities subjects, i'm sure an i3 will be just fine.
If you ask me, you should never get anything Acer made.
SammiSaysHello said:
Your choice definitely depends on what you plan to do with it. Do you want something that will serve as a PC as well as a tablet, or just a portable typing device, or just for entertainment? I've also heard that those who do computer science/programming degrees, you'll want something a lot more powerful. However, for humanities subjects, i'm sure an i3 will be just fine.
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i dont want an ultra book or laptop since i already have a laptop.i want a windows 8 tablet which is thin light and with good battery backup.
Deusdies said:
If you ask me, you should never get anything Acer made.
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i had acer desktop (in 2005) then an acer laptop (bought in 2009) and then another one in 2011(which iam still using) my brother has an acer s3 ultrabook.
i never had any problem with acer till now, also one of my relative works at acer service centre.
rkoforever90 said:
i had acer desktop (in 2005) then an acer laptop (bought in 2009) and then another one in 2011(which iam still using) my brother has an acer s3 ultrabook.
i never had any problem with acer till now, also one of my relative works at acer service centre.
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My experience with the acer repair service isn't great, just got my w700 back and it has gained a load of scratches (came back quite dirty as well) and the rubber section on the back which they clearly removed to open it up hasn't been stuck down properly and now comes away from the case.
Also OP you should be aware that Acer support in general is awful, they delete posts on the forums they don't like (mainly people complaining about the terrible support) and there is a throttling issue with the i5 version which they refuse to fix, you should check out the 52 page thread on their forums which has been going on for over a year.
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My experience with the acer repair service isn't great, just got my w700 back and it has gained a load of scratches (came back quite dirty as well) and the rubber section on the back which they clearly removed to open it up hasn't been stuck down properly and now comes away from the case.
Also OP you should be aware that Acer support in general is awful, they delete posts on the forums they don't like (mainly people complaining about the terrible support) and there is a throttling issue with the i5 version which they refuse to fix, you should check out the 52 page thread on their forums which has been going on for over a year.
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the problem is i dont have an option to purchase other than student store u.k and they dont have much options either.
you can have a look and suggest if anything better is there for the price.
http://www.studentstore.co.uk/getech/all-manufacturers/Tablets/for-students.aspx
What subject are you studying at university/what is the tablet required for?
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What subject are you studying at university/what is the tablet required for?
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iam doing mechanical engineering.mostly i need it for entertainment purpose, taking notes , power point presentations etc. but i have a laptop also .
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iam doing mechanical engineering.mostly i need it for entertainment purpose, taking notes , power point presentations etc. but i have a laptop also .
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That should be fine. You don't need something very powerful for that. Actually, I only had an Android tablet (Xperia Tablet S) to do that and it handled those kind of tasks fine for me.
PowerPoint you can install on the device anyway so your fine on that front (uni may offer it for free too). Entertainment is up to you. Note taking should be fine, depends on if you are OK with touch keyboards/small keyboards or not, or using a touchscreen to write with (to my knowledge there is no wacom or synaptics stylus, only the bog standard touch screen).
SixSixSevenSeven said:
PowerPoint you can install on the device anyway so your fine on that front (uni may offer it for free too). Entertainment is up to you. Note taking should be fine, depends on if you are OK with touch keyboards/small keyboards or not, or using a touchscreen to write with (to my knowledge there is no wacom or synaptics stylus, only the bog standard touch screen).
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so which model of acer w700 you own?.how is the overall experience and battery backup?
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so which model of acer w700 you own?.how is the overall experience and battery backup?
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I dont
Since I have an Acer W700 tablet, I would let you know something about the W700. I will compare it mostly with the Surface Pro because its a gold standard for Intel Core tablets
First thing first, W700 lacks the active digitizer. Don't expect writing and drawing to feel like the Surface Pro or Galaxy Note. Its far from it. I use Adonit Jot stylus, it helps a lot compared to other styli or finger input, but still nowhere as good as the Surface Pro.
Second, the battery last like Haswell tablets. This tablet is insane in term of battery life. I mostly get 6-7 hours for my usage. I use this tablets mostly for browsing, downloading, playing casual games, taking notes (OneNote FTW!), watching videos/movies and listening to music. If you look for an Ivy Bridge tablet that last like Haswell tablets, this is the only one.
Third, since I mentioned videos, movies, and music, I would say this tablet has great screen and speaker. The speaker is great for a tablet. If you enable the Dolby enhancement, the speaker will get louder (with some distortion), on par with cheaper multimedia laptops. Definitely better than the Surface Pro. The screen is also better than any tablet screen Ive ever used.
Fourth, it has no great keyboard solution. Unlike the Surface Pro which has options like the Type and Touch cover, the W700 relies on a Bluetooth keyboard or a case with integrated Bluetooth keyboard. Consult the seller first on which version you get. I would recommend the former since the latter is not comfortable (very, very thin), it is nice though. If you are a bit unlucky like me, youll get neither of them. I got a Perixx 804 Bluetooth keyboard for €25, and it works reliably over Bluetooth. This keyboard feels like a keyboard from Acer V5 or most Sony VAIOs (a bit harder than MacBooks)
Fifth, it has WiFi issue. This issue plagues mostly early generation of this tablet, but you might get this as well. On my W700, I have no problem with the disconnection. However, the signal is not as good as other devices. Usually, when the other devices still get 1 bar of signal, the W700 has lost connection.
Sixth, its graphic performance is not as great as how a HD4000 should be. The GPU suffers from bad throttling, making the performance only comparable to HD3000 GPU on most laptops (I tried with i5-2410M)
Overall, this tablet is geared towards entertainment (great screen and speaker) than business/work (no active digitizer and no keyboard solution). This device is great if you want to use one device rather than two (tablet+laptop), but don't expect too much. Since Haswell tablets are just behind the corner, I would suggest you to wait for some affordable Haswell tablets. However, if you cant wait, I would recommend this device over any Atom tablets unless you need an active digitizer.
My W700 is the i5-3317U model with 64 GB of storage. I wish I had the 128 GB model.
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My W700 is the i5-3317U model with 64 GB of storage. I wish I had the 128 GB model.
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Thermal throttling on the i5 model seems very common, yet rare on the i3 model
patrick_spd4u said:
Since I have an Acer W700 tablet, I would let you know something about the W700. I will compare it mostly with the Surface Pro because its a gold standard for Intel Core tablets
First thing first, W700 lacks the active digitizer. Don't expect writing and drawing to feel like the Surface Pro or Galaxy Note. Its far from it. I use Adonit Jot stylus, it helps a lot compared to other styli or finger input, but still nowhere as good as the Surface Pro.
Second, the battery last like Haswell tablets. This tablet is insane in term of battery life. I mostly get 6-7 hours for my usage. I use this tablets mostly for browsing, downloading, playing casual games, taking notes (OneNote FTW!), watching videos/movies and listening to music. If you look for an Ivy Bridge tablet that last like Haswell tablets, this is the only one.
Third, since I mentioned videos, movies, and music, I would say this tablet has great screen and speaker. The speaker is great for a tablet. If you enable the Dolby enhancement, the speaker will get louder (with some distortion), on par with cheaper multimedia laptops. Definitely better than the Surface Pro. The screen is also better than any tablet screen Ive ever used.
Fourth, it has no great keyboard solution. Unlike the Surface Pro which has options like the Type and Touch cover, the W700 relies on a Bluetooth keyboard or a case with integrated Bluetooth keyboard. Consult the seller first on which version you get. I would recommend the former since the latter is not comfortable (very, very thin), it is nice though. If you are a bit unlucky like me, youll get neither of them. I got a Perixx 804 Bluetooth keyboard for €25, and it works reliably over Bluetooth. This keyboard feels like a keyboard from Acer V5 or most Sony VAIOs (a bit harder than MacBooks)
Fifth, it has WiFi issue. This issue plagues mostly early generation of this tablet, but you might get this as well. On my W700, I have no problem with the disconnection. However, the signal is not as good as other devices. Usually, when the other devices still get 1 bar of signal, the W700 has lost connection.
Sixth, its graphic performance is not as great as how a HD4000 should be. The GPU suffers from bad throttling, making the performance only comparable to HD3000 GPU on most laptops (I tried with i5-2410M)
Overall, this tablet is geared towards entertainment (great screen and speaker) than business/work (no active digitizer and no keyboard solution). This device is great if you want to use one device rather than two (tablet+laptop), but don't expect too much. Since Haswell tablets are just behind the corner, I would suggest you to wait for some affordable Haswell tablets. However, if you cant wait, I would recommend this device over any Atom tablets unless you need an active digitizer.
My W700 is the i5-3317U model with 64 GB of storage. I wish I had the 128 GB model.
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Thanks a lot , and sorry for the late reply. iam getting a 450 pounds voucher of student store u.k from my uni and i asked them about the keyboard they told that it comes with the dock & keyboard + the case cover with keyboard out of box so i dont need to buy it seperately . also student store u.k dont have much options to choose from so either i need to wait till lenovo and acer comes out with baytrail or haswell 10+ inch tablets as the studentstore dont stock Asus, HP or Dell .
Also another thing i need to know is that whether the weight and thickness of w700 is an issue to use it as a tablet .
I'd wait to purchase a dell. Acer was terrible when I had it. Dell seems more reliable.
I have the i5 version that came with the dock and the keyboard case. Despite being labelled as having an i5-3317 processor on the box, mine says it has a i5-3337 inside. A patch has fixed the throttling issue for me. The tablet is relatively heavy, it gets uncomfortable to hold and use rather quickly. The thickness isn't a problem; it's actually pretty thin. It's fine to use with the keyboard case on the lap though.
I don't mind the keyboard case. It has full width keys, seems sturdy and keeps the whole setup light. The keys don't press down far due to the thinness of it though. I have to say I like keyboard docks more after using the Asus Transformer TF101, but that would mean adding weight to balance the tablet.
Changing the SSD inside is a bit challenging, but it's possible. It uses a standard mSATA interface according to those who've replaced it. The omission of a SD/microSD slot is a bit strange, but I'd say it has enough storage for most people.
I haven't had any issues with the Wi-Fi, although it seems many others are having trouble with it.
The recovery is on a couple of DVDs. If anything goes awry, you may need to get an external DVD drive. Windows 8 does have the refresh option, which makes things easier if Windows is the problem.
The cameras on the device work alright. Pictures taken look rather poor quality, but I find these things tend to be that way. I really don't know why they put a back facing camera on this thing; I think people using their iPads to take pictures is bad enough. I haven't used it for video chatting yet. Some have reported that the microphone isn't great. The mic is on the bottom edge, which might have something to do with it, but I haven't used it yet.
I enjoy having this tablet. It's as powerful as a laptop and it's fast.