[THEORY] Android 5.1 released with MVNO on March 12? - Nexus 6 General

There is a lot of talk about VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling coming to the Nexus 6.
T-Mobile has talked about Wi-Fi calling for months, and now on Phandroid the are saying Android 5.1 is shipping with VoLTE on the Verizon Nexus 6 on March 12. http://phandroid.com/2015/02/26/exclusive-verizon-nexus-6-march-12-android-5-1-volte-support/
At MWC, Google talked about a MVNO that didn't compete with the Big 4, yet it just pushed boundaries. There was talk of VoLTE and calls automatically reconnecting when they are dropped.
What if Google is planning on pushing 5.1 and their MVNO on March 12, starting with VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling support for the Nexus 6? Just an idea.
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eminemonstAr12 said:
There is a lot of talk about VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling coming to the Nexus 6.
T-Mobile has talked about Wi-Fi calling for months, and now on Phandroid the are saying Android 5.1 is shipping with VoLTE on the Verizon Nexus 6 on March 12. http://phandroid.com/2015/02/26/exclusive-verizon-nexus-6-march-12-android-5-1-volte-support/
At MWC, Google talked about a MVNO that didn't compete with the Big 4, yet it just pushed boundaries. There was talk of VoLTE and calls automatically reconnecting when they are dropped.
What if Google is planning on pushing 5.1 and their MVNO on March 12, starting with VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling support for the Nexus 6? Just an idea.
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Wifi calling and volte will suffice until they can get band12 active

This is the stuff I come up with while I'm waiting for my ROM to compile :laugh:

For verizon to launch on the 12th with 5.1, google is going to have to drop 5.1 into ASOP earlier than that. They can do an OTA on the 12th but they are going to need to release the code before hand so the verizon phones will have the update. I wonder if there are any verizon people that can get there hands on display units early and see if it has 5.1.

8Fishes said:
For verizon to launch on the 12th with 5.1, google is going to have to drop 5.1 into ASOP earlier than that. They can do an OTA on the 12th but they are going to need to release the code before hand so the verizon phones will have the update. I wonder if there are any verizon people that can get there hands on display units early and see if it has 5.1.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm tempted to go to my local Verizon store and play stupid to see if they have any in the back you'd be shocked at what you can pull at the local Verizon stores... I used to be on the Big Red when I first started developing, I hard bricked my phone twice, both times they replaced it free of charge because I played stupid
T-Mo local stores typically know what they are doing, actually. I go there about once a month and the workers and I talk all about Android news and stuff we see on XDA and other developing stuff when there's no other customers in the store hahaha

That would be amazing!! We can hope right?

http://www.android.gs/android-5-1-u...-5-nexus-7-and-nexus-10-what-you-should-know/
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I have thought about this for the last month. Verizon is not going to Sale N6 until its capable taking advantage of the best there network has to offer. So Verizon, Motorola and Google are working together to fine tune 5.1. And we will see it with in a few days of Verizon release. Just an old guys theory

hdtechk said:
I have thought about this for the last month. Verizon is not going to Sale N6 until its capable taking advantage of the best there network has to offer. So Verizon, Motorola and Google are working together to fine tune 5.1. And we will see it with in a few days of Verizon release. Just an old guys theory
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Verizon releases almost every device without VoLTE, they aren't being extra careful with this one
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akellar said:
Verizon releases almost every device without VoLTE, they aren't being extra careful with this one
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if anything, VZW is probably responsible for the delay in releasing 5.1

5.1 could drop as soon as this week.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/03/05/android-5-1-said-to-hit-nexus-devices-this-week/

Guys, check this out. I think this supports the original theory even more...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/03/05/report-googles-nova-carrier-will-only-offer-service-on-nexus-6-at-launch/

Rumors and speculation.
eminemonstAr12 said:
Guys, check this out. I think this supports the original theory even more...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/03/05/report-googles-nova-carrier-will-only-offer-service-on-nexus-6-at-launch/
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Yes, The Rumors and speculation spread faster than a virus. No one has any real insider information, it's all just speculation based on each publishers preference. Kind of like how people interpret the bible.

https://plus.google.com/107797272029781254158/posts/CMLJL81LAzS
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https://plus.google.com/107797272029781254158/posts/CMLJL81LAzS
From the keyboard of Artem himself!
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Well iWatch day has come and gone, no 5.1. I wonder if the Verizon N6 will come out on Thursday without updating the rest of the Nexus'.

stevessvt said:
Well iWatch day has come and gone, no 5.1. I wonder if the Verizon N6 will come out on Thursday without updating the rest of the Nexus'.
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Update Wednesday maybe?

http://officialandroid.blogspot.com...:+OfficialAndroidBlog+(Official+Android+Blog)

Actually its dropping right now! Doesnt say what devices though, and no sign of it on my 6 yet...
http://officialandroid.blogspot.com/2015/03/android-51-unwrapping-new-lollipop.html

I really hope this sorts out the sound issues more than anything else!
Oh and in before "has anyone got an OTA yet"

Its not a theory, its a hypothesis.

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Nexus 6 Verizon Release date rumors

I just listened to Android Police podcast and they stated a rumor of the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon next year.
I know is just a rumor but I sure hope its not true and do not see how Verizon would be willing to lose all those potential sales.
What is your thoughts on this. I am willing to wait another month for the Nexus 6 but I cannot wait until next year.
Cheers!
No way
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If next year means January 2015, I'll wait. No problem there.
Verizon was the only carrier to not have an announcement or landing page of some sort. It's possible.
they need the extra time to make sure it is locked down for good.
Ugh... Hoping for some words of encouragement... Lol. Well at least I can hope that they'll let us know when pre order goes up on the 29th.
If they do not release until January then it might be worth it for me to jump ship from red to blue. ?
Typical VZW. They held up their Galaxy Nexus for a few months too. Hopefully this doesn't effect updates now that its one device for all networks.
VZ is listed on the N6 google page, it has the bands, VZ is just being VZ.
Since the phone is one model for USA and one for worldwide, the general consensus right now is it will be unlocked, even on VZ, may have been a terms of agreement to get it.
But we'll have to see.
as to one month versus next year, I could wait, my GNex is running fine on KK, if I can wait three years to get to this point, another 6 months is not a far stretch.
Maybe buy on Google Play... Than use on Verizon with a little hacking? H'm
Jack$on said:
I just listened to Android Police podcast and they stated a rumor of the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon next year.
I know is just a rumor but I sure hope its not true and do not see how Verizon would be willing to lose all those potential sales.
What is your thoughts on this. I am willing to wait another month for the Nexus 6 but I cannot wait until next year.
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I'm pretty sure they clarified it was a joke in reference to Verizon's handling of the Galaxy Nexus somewhere on the website, I think I saw it in one of the comment sections.
That's some good news. I know we'll all have to wait to see.... But this information helps me feel ok about waiting.
Honestly my biggest worries was that they had a source or a potential source with information that we did not have
Look at it this way.... The longer you wait the closer we get to an announcement of a device running a 64bit 810 Qualcomm kit. If VZW does delay things long enough to see that come around I'll wait.
After the last Verizon/Nexus disaster, I'm really surprised is coming to big red.
Jfree3000 said:
After the last Verizon/Nexus disaster, I'm really surprised is coming to big red.
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Same here, I seriously can't wait for the nexus 6, and if everyone is concerned buying it directly from Google play would solve the issued with it being unlocked. Just my 2 cents
From my CM11 S3
I thought it was one phone for US that had all bands to work on any carrier.
leyvatron said:
I thought it was one phone for US that had all bands to work on any carrier.
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For the new nexus yes. For most all other phones no, sadly verizon is still stuck cmda
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i think they are waiting to do a big announcement for the new moto line that is why they have been quiet up to now
RoscoeDpG said:
i think they are waiting to do a big announcement for the new moto line that is why they have been quiet up to now
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Hopefully that's the case. I seriously can't wait to get my own Nexus device
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Called Verizon today just for kicks to see if I got a rep that had any idea of the nexus 6 at least..
They literally had no idea what I was talking about......
They came back to me after putting me on hold in complete excitement after being introduced to the device lmaooooo. I got a really good kick out of that this morning.

Verizon Nexus 6 announcement December 31st

I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.
alligator_fight said:
I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.
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Probably the same rep that said it was being released last Saturday, in February, and doesn't know what an N6 is but would be happy to help you purchase a Droid Turbo.
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lol. just spoke with "jerry" via live chat. got same thing i've been getting since initial release:
At this time, we have not been provided information regarding the release of the Nexus 6.
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I called and talked to a rep last week. He had no information either. I've been (im)patiently waiting since the day Google announced the phone. I was only a couple of days away from being able to upgrade, and had my mind set on a Note 4. I've been getting more frustrated every day, as one of my co-workers went and looked at the N6 at the freaking US Cellular store. US Cellular! They have it before Verizon... I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.
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I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.
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Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.
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Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.
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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL
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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL
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Half the problem with dev support is the insistence that every USA carrier have a unique SKU and mutually incompatible firmware. Which leads to community dev fragmentation to the max. Which is squarely on the manufacturer to blame. Knox and the locked bootloaders are also on the manufacturer. With Samsung's mobile division bleeding oodles and gobs of money this year, maybe Samsung will mend their ways.
Samsung's problem is that they went from making 2-3 high quality handsets under one brand (Galaxy)....to making dozens of handsets each with 5+ different unique carrier/region-specific SKUs.
An announcement on the 31st on when Nexus 6? What that it can be pre ordered in March or something and maybe 1,000 available
There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.
Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.
RW-1 said:
There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.
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It is extremely unlikely at this point that Verizon will carry this phone in stores. That has been the speculation from the very beginning. Big Red will allow it on its network, but will never sell the device.
anthonyg45157 said:
Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.
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+ 1000000000
I just talked to my inside business rep and she just found out that it is not being released until February. Pretty pissed!
Winter is coming...
Be ready cuz its coming... The Motorola Droid Turbo 6! It will be full of bloat and skinned in the most obnoxious Motorola overlay. I'm sure it will have all the same specs with maybe a faster processor. It will have 5 different Verizon logos plastered all over it. Of course the bootloader will be locked and we will never see root!... God I love Verizon!
I just had a meditation session with my spiritual king. He let it be known to me that Verizon will release the Nexus 6 in... and then the session ended. I'll try again tomorrow.
The number of people posting their opinions as fact in this thread is hilarious. Nobody knows anything, period.
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Nexus 6 on Verizon
My Motorola bought Nexus 6 works great on Verizon, and with Moto Credit im paying just like you would if you used the "edge" program from VZW... Oh and i didnt have to give Verizon any cut of the sales which is just icing on the cake!
Why wait? Buy one from another carrier, swap Sims.
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We probably wont see any Nexus 6 in stores at all. Nobody has the Nexus 6 locally on any carrier cause its sold out.(I've checked, XMas present.) If Verizon wanted the sales they would have already done it.
When i went into Verizon to get a nano sim for my N6 they didn't even know wtf it is. They're like oh that's not going to work on our network... I had to walk them through what to do to get my device working.

My Theory on why Verizon hasn't released N6

So after doing some research about the whole advanced calling feature I came to a theory that might calm the heat towards them.
Advanced calling 1.0 isn't just something they have to do to the network. VoLTE is already possible in any area Verizon covers with LTE. Unlike other service providers who have been doing this for a while, Verizon is fresh at it. And I believe that the way they enable this function on the Sim is purely software. Not built into the Sim. That's why there are so little phones out there that have it enabled. Because Verizon waits for a software update from the phones manufacturer and implements it into the new software.
So, my theory is that, because the Nexus will be the first phone that Verizon will be selling with lollipop, they will have to work with Google to implement that software into the 5.1 release that should be coming out in February which is why they are planning to release the phone in that time.
Another reason this has to go that way is because its also one of the very few phones that Verizon will be selling that has only one radio and therefore will not have data during a phone call which is one of their biggest selling points and the original reason why I choose them over anyone else 5 years ago.
I think that Verizon just wants this phone to have happy customers and not have a terrible experience like they did with the GNex
Thoughts?
Highly doubt it buddy. The tl;dr is if you want a N6 on VZ you'll probably have to go pony up $650-$699 and get it off GPS or Motorola. Verizon has always been about control,delivering to the user, the experience that they see fit for you to have. That's why they lock all their phones down and instill it with bloatware garbage. Before the FCC mandate I'm pretty sure Verizon blocked all sorts of compatible devices that would work on the network. The only reason why we can even use the N6 on Verizon is because the FCC is forcing them to. I'm sure you read up on the whole 700mhz C block spectrum debacle.
One of two things will probably happen in regards to Verizon selling the Nexus 6. If they are offering it later it will probably come after the newest Droid and Note 4 has had their runs. I highly doubt it has anything to with advanced called as that is just an application and you can make VOLTE calls without it. VOLTE is very limited at this time and will only occur when you call another person with the listed devices. True there could be some propriety garbage that they need to install on the unit to use VOLTE and if that's the case we're back to the Galaxy "Nexus" era. At this point do you really want to get a Nexus that has the VZW tramp stamp? Do you really want to rely on Verizon for certain updates?
As for the second scenario which I feel is more likely to occur. I feel that Verizon will just pass the Nexus 6 as only a small % of people know what it is and want it. Majority of users don't know the differences between devices and manufacturer skins etc. Now if its the contract price you want, nothing else can be said or done about that. But you can always go to Motorola and get financing on the device. Good luck.
They already sell the moto x which is on lollipop so there goes that theory. Next?
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mrgoodpaul said:
Another reason this has to go that way is because its also one of the very few phones that Verizon will be selling that has only one radio and therefore will not have data during a phone call which is one of their biggest selling points and the original reason why I choose them over anyone else 5 years ago.
Thoughts?
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5 years ago you could not do voice/data at same time on Verizon...on most phones you still couldnt 3 years ago...that was a strong selling point and advertised feature that ATT advertised back then...
I don't think you guys are reading the whole thing.
akellar said:
They already sell the moto x which is on lollipop so there goes that theory. Next?
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Motorola had already implemented it in their software on kk. This is the first nexus device in a while
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Motorola had already implemented it in their software on kk. This is the first nexus device in a while
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The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
akellar said:
The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
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Oh, well then your debunking has been debunked. The droid turbo has it but its still on 4.4.4 so I rest my case. They still have to find a way to natively implement it into lollipop.
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So, my theory is that, because the Nexus will be the first phone that Verizon will be selling with lollipop, they will have to work with Google to implement that software into the 5.1 release that should be coming out in February which is why they are planning to release the phone in that time.
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wait... Google announced the 5.1 release? oh that's right, they didn't. all made up by a bunch of "click-bait" hack bloggers looking for increased ad revenue.
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Oh, well then your debunking has been debunked. The droid turbo has it but its still on 4.4.4 so I rest my case. They still have to find a way to natively implement it into lollipop.
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You don't even know what your own argument is. You stated they were holding off releasing it until it had VoLTE/advanced calling. So you're saying they picked just this one device to delay for this reason but were fine releasing a bunch of others without the feature? Yeah that makes total sense.
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The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
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akellar said:
You don't even know what your own argument is. You stated they were holding off releasing it until it had VoLTE/advanced calling. So you're saying they picked just this one device to delay for this reason but were fine releasing a bunch of others without the feature? Yeah that makes total sense.
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Name one phone that has been released in the past six months that doesn't have the ac 1.0 either on the way or already on there?
My opinion is it has to do with the data issues people on vz have been having with the nexus6. My guess is they ran into problems, and are working on a resolution before officially releasing it.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Note 4 is scheduled to get it soon but all the major android devices not on lollipop have it.
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Name one phone that has been released in the past six months that doesn't have the ac 1.0 either on the way or already on there?
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Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Keep in mind this is only a theory. I'm not saying I know the answer. I just came up with it and it made sense to me. To each their own though.
akellar said:
Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
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My theory is that they are trying to figure out how to implement it natively into lollipop. Since the moto x is running lollipop then this clearly falls under the same page as the nexus
CraigP17 said:
5 years ago you could not do voice/data at same time on Verizon...on most phones you still couldnt 3 years ago...that was a strong selling point and advertised feature that ATT advertised back then...
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You're right about that. The thing that I'm saying is that new phones such as the moto x and the nexus 6 both only have one radio as opposed to the older phones since the iPhone 4 released almost 4 years ago which can in fact use data and phone at the same time only because of the fact that there are 2 radios in the CDMA version
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wait... Google announced the 5.1 release? oh that's right, they didn't. all made up by a bunch of "click-bait" hack bloggers looking for increased ad revenue.
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While I do see where you're coming from with this, I would like to point out that there are still a lot of known bugs and it makes sense that they would come out with a major update to fix all of those bugs, nexus device wide. Whether its 5.1 or 5.0.3 is not the point. Its the fact that there is an update and it should come soon because googles new flagship device has that buggy software on it and it will hurt profits if not fixed
Ive actually talked to some people who told me that the only reason they didn't get the n6 was because they heard there were a lot of bugs.
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Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
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Long list.
My theory is that they want to lock it down, and although they technically could, the user base of this particular model have more of an inclination to tinker than other customers who want a Samsung or HTC.
Maybe Google layath down the hammer and said you can't prevent people from locking boot loader.
In the end I just don't think Verizon cares to own a Nexus
Pretty sure it's to milk every last penny from the Turbo. Also to get as many people to buy other phones out of practical impatience as they can so they have less unlocked bootloaders running on their network. Cause we all know how much they just absolutely LOVE unlocked bootloaders.

Where in the world is the Verizon 5.1.1 update?

Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
rushless said:
Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?
droidguy22 said:
Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?
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Yes. Sprint got it a month ago.
I was thinking that it was taking abnormally long too, but since AT&T and T-Mo haven't gotten it yet, it makes me wonder. Especially since part of T Mobile's Note 4s have it and the others don't. (The ones with a different model number have them, but the original model numbers don't.)
Perhaps they are fine tuning stuff for the Qualcomm models and used Sprint as a guinea pig since Sprint barely has any subscribers anymore, it probably makes a great lab rat!
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Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
KennyG123 said:
It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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I don't think so! I believe that we won't get 6.0 update in 2015. It's most likely that US carriers (VZW, ATT, TMB, and USC) will follow the international variants and push 5.1.1 update in 2015 (probably, it's due in October) and wait too long for the next big thing (M) sometime in 2016, after releasing it for the 2015 flagships (S6 and its family) in the next few months. However, I hope you're right.
Verizon always seems to be last and not fair to the older phones in the cue. To me we paid out our cash way before the S6 owners , no offense. I think the S4 will be the cut off so, why not be fair and start from that. Verizon, at least on the phone and in the stores, always bring up loyalty, show it!
But I wonder if it has anything to do that Verizon is a CDMA system
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It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0
oneandroidnut said:
interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0
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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.
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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.
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True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0
oneandroidnut said:
True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0
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This is Verizon. We'll get 6.0 next year if we're lucky.
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I read some carriers in Canada are receiving 5.1.1 on Note 4 via OTA.
AT&T got it today. I'm guessing T-Mobile will be next and We'll get it in January.

Verizon in control of Pixel updates

Bad news for you guys in the US, seems like Verizon has taken control of updates for their handsets and those purchased in Best buy. Poor show from Google but it was probably the only way they could sign up with a major carrier over there. Google is doing security updates however.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/6/13191614/verizon-google-pixel-android-updates
* potentially * bad news. Won't know for sure until the first major update.
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Hoodeddeathman said:
Bad news for you guys in the US, seems like Verizon has taken control of updates for their handsets and those purchased in Best buy. Poor show from Google but it was probably the only way they could sign up with a major carrier over there. Google is doing security updates however.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/6/13191614/verizon-google-pixel-android-updates
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Why is it bad for us in the US the smart people know verizon and play store version is same price pretty much such as me I bought play store version only new android users who saw add on verizon and don't know about stock android bloat free will go for verizon verizon pixel will have bloat +1 i got play store stock varient
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* potentially * bad news. Won't know for sure until the first major update.
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I saw apost by verizon saying it will control the updates sucks for verizon pixel users.
I still say it is only potentially bad news, but maybe I'm just optimistic. If V can get the updates out with a month or two, I'll be happy.
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JasonJoel said:
I still say it is only potentially bad news, but maybe I'm just optimistic. If V can get the updates out with a month or two, I'll be happy.
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Since the Google version and Verizon version are identical with hardware I hope some dev finds away to flash the stock Google image to a verizon pixel. Kinda like the one phone amazon was selling with ads(I believe it was the Motorola phone).
Anyone know the details on the Google version not having Wi-Fi calling and hd voice?
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Anyone know the details on the Google version not having Wi-Fi calling and hd voice?
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I can tell you from experience that my N6P was a google store purchase running on the EE network here in the UK. I did get WiFi calling but despite the network supporting it and allegedly the phone too I never got VOLTE (Did have HD voice but that's been standard in the UK for years now)
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Anyone know the details on the Google version not having Wi-Fi calling and hd voice?
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This is the exact reason I ordered the Verizon version. I wanted to ensure I got Wifi calling, HD voice and visual voicemail.
A few sites have already confirmed that there is minimal bloatware that can be uninstalled. Although it might take a little longer for updates it cant be worse than AT&T that I have currently.
It will have to have WiFi calling since they run projectFi.
I want to know how updates will be handled if you have a T-Mobile sim in a Verizon pixel
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iceman4357 said:
This is the exact reason I ordered the Verizon version. I wanted to ensure I got Wifi calling, HD voice and visual voicemail.
A few sites have already confirmed that there is minimal bloatware that can be uninstalled. Although it might take a little longer for updates it cant be worse than AT&T that I have currently.
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I too pre-ordered the Verizon variant. Google wont allow Verizon to hang onto the updates very long anyways which I don't even care about. I am just concerned with the Verizon HD voice and Wifi calling. I also don't care that the bootloader is locked. Custom roms are buggy as hell (I know I'm on one now on my G3) and they usually break important features. I also get a free daydream VR headset which cosys $100 and the Google Store purchasers don't get anything free! Haha
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I too pre-ordered the Verizon variant. Google wont allow Verizon to hang onto the updates very long anyways which I don't even care about. I am just concerned with the Verizon HD voice and Wifi calling. I also don't care that the bootloader is locked. Custom roms are buggy as hell (I know I'm on one now on my G3) and they usually break important features. I also get a free daydream VR headset which cosys $100 and the Google Store purchasers don't get anything free! Haha
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Pre-Orders from the Google Store get a free Daydream VR headset too
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Pre-Orders from the Google Store get a free Daydream VR headset too
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Oh, my bad. Good stuff. Can't wait to walk around blindly breaking all kinds of stuff in the house. My wife's really gonna love this contraption! Haha. Let's see how fast this thing goes in a droor to collect dust.
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This is the exact reason I ordered the Verizon version. I wanted to ensure I got Wifi calling, HD voice and visual voicemail.
A few sites have already confirmed that there is minimal bloatware that can be uninstalled. Although it might take a little longer for updates it cant be worse than AT&T that I have currently.
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The Google store version will have this available for both
T-Mobile and Verizon sims. You don't have to buy it from Verizon for this feature. Also project Fi uses it as well.
I don't think or should i say hope that there will not be that much of a delay , maybe a one to two week delay if that. I would say that google might delay the official non beta release to time more with Verizon to make it seem like they are pushing them out faster at lease for the first major update. I honestly cant see it taking that long for Verizon to test reliability on the network. since the phone will still be mostly pure android there isn't much else for Verizon to get there paws on to mess with besides the 3 apps they have on there. a few weeks will still be better then any other android out there , I think the fastest ive seen a device besides a nexus get the current android version was around 3 months or longer so anything has to be better then that lol
This could be hopeful thinking cause i ordered through Verizon
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I don't think or should i say hope that there will not be that much of a delay , maybe a one to two week delay if that. I would say that google might delay the official non beta release to time more with Verizon to make it seem like they are pushing them out faster at lease for the first major update. I honestly cant see it taking that long for Verizon to test reliability on the network. since the phone will still be mostly pure android there isn't much else for Verizon to get there paws on to mess with besides the 3 apps they have on there. a few weeks will still be better then any other android out there , I think the fastest ive seen a device besides a nexus get the current android version was around 3 months or longer so anything has to be better then that lol
This could be hopeful thinking cause i ordered through Verizon
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Verizon has a bad record of not delivering as promised. They also don't respect pure Android and will surely bog it down with all of their crap software. They also will take their sweet time with updates as they do with every other device, even when the manufacturer said they will be timely. All companies except apple get burnt with Verizon. Big Red could care less about what their customers want. As long as you are using their service, they got you. And with the Verizon Pixel, you have no other options. I hope I am wrong, but it's Verizon we are talking about.
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Verizon has a bad record of not delivering as promised. They also don't respect pure Android and will surely bog it down with all of their crap software. They also will take their sweet time with updates as they do with every other device, even when the manufacturer said they will be timely. All companies except apple get burnt with Verizon. Big Red could care less about what their customers want. As long as you are using their service, they got you. And with the Verizon Pixel, you have no other options. I hope I am wrong, but it's Verizon we are talking about.
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Well there is always another option , buy from google store lol . Very true Verizon sucks balls when it comes to updates for anything wont argue with that ... maybe they will surprise us all with the Pixel ?? yeah probably not lol. I wonder how much worse or better the other carriers are? i don't remember att being all that much better but i only had one android with them
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Well there is always another option , buy from google store lol . Very true Verizon sucks balls when it comes to updates for anything wont argue with that ... maybe they will surprise us all with the Pixel ?? yeah probably not lol. I wonder how much worse or better the other carriers are? i don't remember att being all that much better but i only had one android with them
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You could buy it from Google store and then pop a Verizon sim in it. Then you would have the Google version on Verizon service. You wouldn't be at the mercy of Verizon that way.
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You could buy it from Google store and then pop a Verizon sim in it. Then you would have the Google version on Verizon service. You wouldn't be at the mercy of Verizon that way.
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I know, but decided to just get though verizon could be a bad choice but not really that big of a deal, ill keep my 6P if i have the urge to tinker lol
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Well there is always another option , buy from google store lol . Very true Verizon sucks balls when it comes to updates for anything wont argue with that ... maybe they will surprise us all with the Pixel ?? yeah probably not lol. I wonder how much worse or better the other carriers are? i don't remember att being all that much better but i only had one android with them
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I can't understand why people always say the Verizon is bad at pushing updates. For at least the last 3 years they are the first of all major U.S. carriers to push updates to LG and Samsung. Don't know about HTC as I've never owned one but my LG G2, G3 and G4 all got their updates before any of the other carriers and the same with my Note 7 for the 2 small updates it did receive. Verizon will handle the Pixel's updates just fine. They always did with all the latest flagships for years now. I think people just have an advanced hatred for Verizon for god knows what reason but I've tried every major U.S. carrier and Verizon is hands down the best. The limited data crap sucks but now it's technically unlimited but throttled after you blow through the amout you pay for. I'm more than happy to get my Pixel XL through Verizon. They always deliver and never ask questions if I have a faulty device.

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