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How much ram do you have after all apps gone?

I have 108M with only Android Live, com.google.android, launcher, taskiller.
What do all of you have?

Blueman101 said:
I have 108M with only Android Live, com.google.android, launcher, taskiller.
What do all of you have?
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The N1 has 512MB but is not available until 2.2.

From what I've read we will receive a ram boost with the first update

hopefully thats not all that will be updated in the next patch.

How do you check RAM usage? I can only find my ROM usage/Internal capacity, in the Running services setting.

Doesn't really matter.. hence they don't tell you. Ideally you want almost all memory used because that's the most efficient.. if they put a value up there then people start getting OCD about maximimising unused memory instead of letting the OS do the opposite.

Does the nexus has the same issue as the original diamond whereby if you installed so many apps it would run out of memory ? I can no longer use my youtube app on the diamond as it requests at least 8Mb of memory!
I always get this message:
There is not enough free storage space to run YouTube. Minimum free storage space required is 8MB
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Not being that tech savvy i'm always confused how memory is allocated on the diamond as i still have about 1.5Gb on the "storage card", 28.70MB on the program tab of "main memory" and 7.74MB on the storage tab on main memory!
Why couldn't they just allocate the whole "storage card" to the phone apps etc ?
Essentially i'm asking is the nexus prone to running out of "memory" even though it may have a 32Gb mico SD card with copious amount of room left for apps etc ?
Forgive me if i'm getting totally confused with ram/rom/storage memory!!
cheers for any help.
hope to be a nexus owner soon.

Memory is not the same as storage space. Look at it as you would RAM on your pc. You don't get more RAM if you get a bigger harddrive, right?
It's the same on the phone, it doesn't matter how big of a SDcard you put in it, the memory used for running apps is the same.
And no, I'm pretty certain you will not get the same problems with the Nexus as you've had with your diamond.

cheers SBS........

serialtoon said:
The N1 has 512MB but is not available until 2.2.
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Wow...that's awesome if true. So how much is it capable of making use of now? 256Mb? Anyone know?

download quick system info
right now it says Memory Total 213mb free 54.94mb.

lightforce said:
download quick system info
right now it says Memory Total 213mb free 54.94mb.
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That app is far better than what I was using. Thanks!

HOw much mem do u have free atm

213MB total
27.72MB Free
A lot of people misunderstand how the memory is used, its best to keep all your regularly used apps running and in memory. I pretty much don't force close anything.

So the ram will double up (+ few more) with the next update?

^ yes, this is a limitation of the current kernel, its being fixed and will be pushed in the next update.

yes our phones will run even better soon

Internal Storage

Hey i was wonder can you like take apart the fascinate and change the internal storage? is it a second sd card inside of it? and if so how would you go about making the files work on another ? clockwork?

It would probably be embedded on to the board itself.
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dialect129 said:
Hey i was wonder can you like take apart the fascinate and change the internal storage? is it a second sd card inside of it? and if so how would you go about making the files work on another ? clockwork?
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I would say firmly that, no, you cannot replace/increase the internal memory on the Fascinate.

well i mean has anybody taken apart the phone yet? lol i was hoping that website that takes apart everything would of so i didnt have to be the first lol

dialect129 said:
well i mean has anybody taken apart the phone yet? lol i was hoping that website that takes apart everything would of so i didnt have to be the first lol
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Whether it has, or hasn't been taken apart by anyone, it's not a common practice to have removable/replaceable memory with these types of devices.
I consider myself a poweruser and have no real need for more internal memory.
You should be ok. You can always App2SD if you're running out of storage space.

well i have the lagfixme.bat until they make something better..by the way does the lag fix make media scan slower or something it takes forever to scan sometimes but anyways. i thought we couldnt app 2 sd until froyo?

dialect129 said:
well i have the lagfixme.bat until they make something better..by the way does the lag fix make media scan slower or something it takes forever to scan sometimes but anyways. i thought we couldnt app 2 sd until froyo?
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No, the media scan is just slow and takes forever in and of itself.
We can't really "app 2 sd" until Froyo.
I'd consider myself a power user as well and I'm only using 214MB of 1.55GB internally. Everything else (music, movies, etc.) I keep on my SD Card, so it isn't too bad.

yea im kind of a messy power user i got files everwhere...but yeah your right...thanks for the input

Once I got all my core appspot that I know ill use on a regular basis I only used about 300 MB of internal memory. Beyond that I use another 100 or so for junk (hypnotoad and the like) I can't imagine anyone needing more than 2 gig during the lifetime of this phone.
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What would you like to see in a custom ROM?

As you know, the fact that bootloaders are unlocked leaves an open door for third party firmwares (custom ROMs) to be applied to the phone.
Usually custom ROMs expand the functionalities of the phone and correct some of the software shortcomings. Even though the phone is only recently in the market, there may be some feature wishes and some complaints already.
In short, what features shoud a custom ROM add and what shortcomings should it correct?
I will start:
With the not-so-last gen processor the Play has, it is probably necessary to be able to overclock it.
I would like a minimal ROM (aka without bloatware) as it seems that the booting time of stock ROMs is incredibly high and it is caused by bloatware.
I don't have the phone yet (it's on its way ^^) but I have read things about the brightness setting being too dim and not changeable.

Logseman said:
As you know, the fact that bootloaders are unlocked leaves an open door for third party firmwares (custom ROMs) to be applied to the phone.
Usually custom ROMs expand the functionalities of the phone and correct some of the software shortcomings. Even though the phone is only recently in the market, there may be some feature wishes and some complaints already.
In short, what features shoud a custom ROM add and what shortcomings should it correct?
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With the not-so-last gen processor the Play has, it is probably necessary to be able to overclock it.
I would like a minimal ROM (aka without bloatware) as it seems that the booting time of stock ROMs is incredibly high and it is caused by bloatware.
I don't have the phone yet (it's on its way ^^) but I have read things about the brightness setting being too dim and not changeable.
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I may be working on an overclock kernel this weekend, it all depends on family stuff plus footy.

MOOOOOOORE MEMORY i dont even need a custom rom, just wish i had more than 40mb free ram at some point lol

AndroHero said:
MOOOOOOORE MEMORY i dont even need a custom rom, just wish i had more than 40mb free ram at some point lol
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Doesn't sound right. I usually have over 200 free when the phones idle and no where near full when using FPSE etc.

Disable auto brightness and can set it manual (and increase more brightness).
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As mentioned, a bloat free rom. Pure Android port maybe?
There should be another loader than play, something thats able to load psx,snes,mame (single games) and every other games u installed by opening the pad. With the possibility to add/remove stuff after u install it.
Overclock is mentioned. (Only 1500 in quadrant original??) FPS is okay though.
(I hope wolves - sunderland is canceled, so we have something to look forward too.)

finty said:
Doesn't sound right. I usually have over 200 free when the phones idle and no where near full when using FPSE etc.
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I think he's refering to Internal Storage rather than RAM.
Since we suffer from very low internal storage, it would be great if a new ROM would provide something similar to the app2sd application (forces apps to install all data to SD). Might be a big ask though?

Rixter757 said:
I think he's refering to Internal Storage rather than RAM.
Since we suffer from very low internal storage, it would be great if a new ROM would provide something similar to the app2sd application (forces apps to install all data to SD). Might be a big ask though?
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Sure you can move most app data to the SD from settings AFAIK. Bit of a pain though so installing to SD automatically would be nice.

finty said:
Sure you can move most app data to the SD from settings AFAIK. Bit of a pain though so installing to SD automatically would be nice.
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Yuck, I got that wrong I thought app2sd allowed the footprint part of the installation to be mostly moved to SD. Kinda hoped the 30Mb of Asphalt etc cud be reduced to <1Mb or sumthin. Daft now that I think of it.
I agree then, no point in app2sd cuz I manually move the data when I install stuff anyway.
Admin, can someone wipe my replies to this cuz it's only taking up space on what shud be a valuable thread!!

1, faster boot-up time.
2, ability to pick the games you want to have in the games launcher (or a new launcher).
3, widgets from desire.
4, R/L buttons as camera buttons when active.
5, R/L buttons as volume when camera not active, i find the original volume buttons a pain, even more when you have a case/shell on
6, brighter screen for them sunny days.

Rixter757 said:
I think he's refering to Internal Storage rather than RAM.
Since we suffer from very low internal storage, it would be great if a new ROM would provide something similar to the app2sd application (forces apps to install all data to SD). Might be a big ask though?
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Nope im talking about ram. If you guys have issues with storage, fire up adb, connect your device. And input.
adb shell
$ pm setinstalllocation2
$ exit
This will force all apps to be allowed to install to the sd card, and games like ashpalt take less than a mb
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AndroHero said:
Nope im talking about ram. If you guys have issues with storage, fire up adb, connect your device. And input.
adb shell
$ pm setinstalllocation2
$ exit
This will force all apps to be allowed to install to the sd card, and games like ashpalt take less than a mb
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Nice tip cheers lad. Still not seeing how you are having problems with ram usage though, I haven't encountered any. If anything I am constantly surprised at the amount I have free when gaming etc.

Nope im talking about ram. If you guys have issues with storage, fire up adb, connect your device. And input.
adb shell
$ pm setinstalllocation2
$ exit
This will force all apps to be allowed to install to the sd card, and games like ashpalt take less than a mb
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Nice tip cheers lad. Still not seeing how you are having problems with ram usage though, I haven't encountered any. If anything I am constantly surprised at the amount I have free when gaming etc.
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Maybe its cuz i have 200+ apps installed lol
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bitme30 said:
As mentioned, a bloat free rom. Pure Android port maybe?
There should be another loader than play, something thats able to load psx,snes,mame (single games) and every other games u installed by opening the pad. With the possibility to add/remove stuff after u install it.
Overclock is mentioned. (Only 1500 in quadrant original??) FPS is okay though.
(I hope wolves - sunderland is canceled, so we have something to look forward too.)
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well with my fone rooted and afew things gone such as timescape
i get 1800+ in quadrant
but as far as custom roms i would love the miui rom
i had it on my x10 and thought it was exellent
i like the look and how fast and vibrant it was
so come on tripNraver or someone else port it over plz

App2EXT
As I hate the original android app2sd... as all widgets get broken by this method...

From what I've heard, since Verizon has fallen asleep.
1. Bare bone rom. Like to where you have to install gapps and other stuff. Only to have the apps android comes with.
2. R1 as take picture and L1 as focus.
3. Ability to add any shortcut to the "game app," forgot what it was called. Whether it be a app or game.
4. No overclock applied. Let the user add a overclocking app if they want.
5. Power control widget in the status bar.
6. And supper user of coarse
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i want a stock android tbh, STOCK; and of-course, an overclocking module

id love an option to disable data traffic automatically when the phones screen is turned off, if this could be built into a custom stock gingerbread rom. the reason that would be awsome is cause it would double your batterylife and save using a widget and having to manually turn it on and off wasting time.
also R1 for taking picture and L1 for focus
having a battery percentage in the status bar would be amazing ( i know theres apps to do this but again if it was built in the rom as stock)
I would love a better keyboard, i came from an iphone and androids keyboard is just not accurate enough.
thanks in advance whoever takes the time to make this possible i understand it takes alot of time and effort to help others but rest assured it also makes many people happy . I wish sony would have released this phone in a more polished state it feels half finished and fragmented with all the apps and games markets

CM7 or MIUI with apps2ext+
Overclocking kernel with CIFS
enough said..

FrAsErTaG said:
CM7 or MIUI with apps2ext+
Overclocking kernel with CIFS
enough said..
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I can agree with that

[Q] Swapping the Internal and External memory cards

Greetings to fellows android users and contributers ,
I would like to seek advice on what is wrong with my phone while im playing some games for example : modern combat 2 HD
I managed to flash my galaxy SL from XXKB2-----> XXKB3 successfully without any problems and also swapped my internal and external memory to give the phone internal memory of 14.8GB in total .
Before I swapped the memory cards , I was playing modern combat 1 and it ran smoothly . but after I installed modern combat 2 , some scenes during the in-game gunfire would flicker like a spoiled TV .
Questions :
1) is it because of the extra large internal memory of 14GB CLASS 4?
2 ) is it because of some steps Im supposed to take before I play some high-end graphic games.
sorry if my questions sounded noobish.
thanks for any advice.

Even i face this problem.but even without swapping.
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any solution to this problem?

nicyhl said:
any solution to this problem?
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It happened with me recently after the swap of 32gb memory card to internal memory with Asphalt 6.
Just delete the data file required by game and re-copy.
Solved this in my case.
(i had backup of data files of asphalt 6 so i coped back to memory card again n deleted old)

nicyhl said:
Greetings to fellows android users and contributers ,
I would like to seek advice on what is wrong with my phone while im playing some games for example : modern combat 2 HD
I managed to flash my galaxy SL from XXKB2-----> XXKB3 successfully without any problems and also swapped my internal and external memory to give the phone internal memory of 14.8GB in total .
Before I swapped the memory cards , I was playing modern combat 1 and it ran smoothly . but after I installed modern combat 2 , some scenes during the in-game gunfire would flicker like a spoiled TV .
Questions :
1) is it because of the extra large internal memory of 14GB CLASS 4?
2 ) is it because of some steps Im supposed to take before I play some high-end graphic games.
sorry if my questions sounded noobish.
thanks for any advice.
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I'm not sure about my answer but i think this is the problem..
External And Internal SD Cards have different Write and Read Speed.. Internal is faster because it is built in your device.. Because you swapped your internal and external the default for data storage therefore will be the external SD which has lower read and write capabilities compared to internal SD.. (This is just my opinion and i'm not sure weather it is correct or not.. If i'm wrong please correct me )

ephraim033 said:
I'm not sure about my answer but i think this is the problem..
External And Internal SD Cards have different Write and Read Speed.. Internal is faster because it is built in your device.. Because you swapped your internal and external the default for data storage therefore will be the external SD which has lower read and write capabilities compared to internal SD.. (This is just my opinion and i'm not sure weather it is correct or not.. If i'm wrong please correct me )
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I.dont think.so bcoz.other games which r.larger in size.are.vorking correctly
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sakindia123 said:
I.dont think.so bcoz.other games which r.larger in size.are.vorking correctly
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I see.. Maybe try downloading the game again will work
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I tried recopying the game files back into my Pseudo-internal memory card ( aka : swapped external memory card )
FYI : My external is Kingston class 4 16 GB
I did it 3 times but the game still have this problem ( blurred spoiled scenes when enemies are shooting me ) , same happened with my other game .
I searched the site I downloaded a software : SD speed increase ( by Diego Stamigni ) but it didnt work ady.. I put the value on 2048kb. ( original was 128 kb )
Is there any other solutions? thanks for those who helped. appreciate it

nicyhl said:
I tried recopying the game files back into my Pseudo-internal memory card ( aka : swapped external memory card )
FYI : My external is Kingston class 4 16 GB
I did it 3 times but the game still have this problem ( blurred spoiled scenes when enemies are shooting me ) , same happened with my other game .
I searched the site I downloaded a software : SD speed increase ( by Diego Stamigni ) but it didnt work ady.. I put the value on 2048kb. ( original was 128 kb )
Is there any other solutions? thanks for those who helped. appreciate it
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Does running the game with power attached to phone help?
If it does, try installing setCPU from the market and setting it to Performance when you are playing the game.

Setcpu wont work........and playing while charging makes the fone smokin hot
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playing while charging makes the fone smokin hot
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-does it get smokin hot- is not the question - Does the issue still exist while power is attached?

Nope.. I tried playing it with the charger on but no use too.
can anyone propose a solution to this?

i've flashed gingerbread, and this mod works also in this version.

Low storage since 4.1.2

How can this be? 16g Nexus, only 7g used. Only 3 free?

Mine did the same thing. Any clues out there ?
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Install DiskUsage to quickly go through your storage by size. If you have root, you can use it for your system partitions as well.

That's a great app ! Been using it for years it seems... In the OP there's a picture. The picture shows a gray bar that's supposedly only 3 GB's. The visual representation of space available is incorrect in the picture and on my device also.
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I've seen the same thing on mine, it's neglecting certain files/folders when making out what's using the storage, but the free storage number is usually correct.
I think in my case, my titanium backups weren't added in the equation. I moved them to an external mSD and since then it's been accurate.

Having the same problem since installing 4.1.2. Went from 5.5 gb free to 791 mb. Searched for a while but I can't find anything causing it. Glad you posted this, I was thinking of resetting back to stock and setting everything up again.

Ok, I hooked up to my computer and confirmed 13g and 3 free on Win 7.
The problem is I dont have 10g of files. I have one movie @ 4g and and 2g of music. I have checked the size of all folders on the sd and the numbers don't add up.
13-6=7 not 3 thats being shown. A significant difference!

I just found 2g in the clockworkmod folder. I did a backup prior to the 4.1.2 install. The blob folder is 2g. Can I delete it safely?

Yup, you could also move it over to pc just in case you'd ever need it.
Like I said, backups don't tend to get recognized by storage use, but DiskUsage shows em nice and clear

Logic_ said:
Yup, you could also move it over to pc just in case you'd ever need it.
Like I said, backups don't tend to get recognized by storage use, but DiskUsage shows em nice and clear
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Thanks!