ROMS and Recovery - Nexus Player Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I wonder. How come there isn't really any development for the Nexus Player other than one ROM that's just stock AOSP and the one kernel? Where's the recovery? where's custom Android TV ROMS?
Is there no need for them?

YoshiFan501 said:
I wonder. How come there isn't really any development for the Nexus Player other than one ROM that's just stock AOSP and the one kernel? Where's the recovery? where's custom Android TV ROMS?
Is there no need for them?
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I really think that were about as unlocked as we're going to get. It is now that we need a good launcher that really ties it all together the way Google should have done from the beginning.
I dream of a launcher that works well with the NP remote but also has app support with the same remote. The challenge really then is on app development.
With all of that said, I'm pretty happy with my LolliRock NP setup using the K400 and RedSamurai controller. It's a great media player and a wonderful emulator, and much smaller and quieter than my PC, or a typical HTPC.

I would like a recovery so i am looking in to porting one... What are you doing?
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Well said

the prices have come down so they're probably more popular now. theere is a cm 12.1 rom available now.

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[POLL] What kind of ROMs do you all prefer?

This is a poll thread where you can freely state your facts and opinions on your favorite type of ROM (Sammy-based ROM, MIUI or CM)
This is also a thread for the people who want to know what kinds of ROMs are being used worldwide.
IF you want, you can even comment down below and say why you like them
I use MIUI myself, but I did come from a Sammy-based ROM and even tried CM for a few weeks.
Voice your opinions, and let us know why!
**Sammy-based ROM = stock as well
If you happen to want to try the ROM type which you are not using, click on the links below.
Sammy-based ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204
MIUI-based ROMs:
http://www.miuiandroid.com/
http://www.miui.us/
http://www.miui.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455731
CyanogenMod:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366341
This thread is NOT a question, just a poll. I don't want to post a favorite ROM post because new ROMs get released by the day and its hard to keep up ^_^
I haven't tried MIUI yet, so I won't vote. But I've been playing with the stable version of Cyanogen Mod for a week now and like it. It's heads and shoulders better than the stock ROM.
CM-based ROMS are nice, but video hardware decoding support is spotty. I use my phone to play 1080p/720p videos quite often, which are often unwatchable using software decoders. So I have no choice but to stick with Samsung-based ROMs for now...
Logi_Ca1 said:
CM-based ROMS are nice, but video hardware decoding support is spotty. I use my phone to play 1080p/720p videos quite often, which are often unwatchable using software decoders. So I have no choice but to stick with Samsung-based ROMs for now...
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Incorrect, try Dice Player. It's fantastic and by far superior then Sammy stock.
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what is this MIU thingy
Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
TheSaw said:
Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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Lol agree with u fella. To @OP
I like roms that are already in the android development.
But on a serious note if we all voted on a best rom everyone would be using that. You are only going to get different opinions. But good luck anyway.
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I never tried MIUI because it looks to me like a clone of iPhone, when I want iPhone I buy iPhone...
I used CM7 because of its configuration options and theme chooser, hope CM9 will get them too...
I've tried all of them.
I prefer Samsung based ROMs at this time. They just seem to be the smoothest, most reliable ROMs which is not a surprise really. I did go through a phase where almost everything was stock but I've gone back to Go Launcher and Go SMS as I found the Samsung launcher too limiting (even though it is smooth, though Go Launcher isn't far behind) and the same can be said for the Sammy SMS app, also I find it a little slower than Go SMS in terms of responsiveness.
Cyanogen ROMs I feel do not run as fluidly as Samsung ROMs, and generally contain more bugs. As another poster said, they lack some of the codec support of the Samsung ROMs. Also, and I realise you can change this with themes etc, but the AOSP Android is a bit bland, at least in pre-ICS form. And CM9 simply isn't ready yet as a daily driver IMO. I look forward to revisiting CM9 when it is more polished.
MIUI ROMs I really like in terms of features. Everything you need is there out of the box, however, I find them resource hogs, and go a step further again than Cyanogen in not running as fluidly. You can see this when jumping from screen to screen or navigating menus, it feels like I am running an old Nexus One again in terms of speed. It just isn't fluid. This was a while ago so maybe things have changed. If they sorted these issues out, it could be the most fantastic ROM.
So Samsung ROM for me at the moment.
Suarez7 said:
Lol agree with u fella. To @OP
I like roms that are already in the android development.
But on a serious note if we all voted on a best rom everyone would be using that. You are only going to get different opinions.
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Well, I dont see how this post is the same as those noob questions on whats the best rom you see, if i posted one of those questions, it would be all those "there is no such thing as a best rom, only what fits you" kind of answers all over the place. This is only trying to get people to know what kind of ROMs we are all running, and also its the kind of stats that gets people knowing how many people are using what kind of rom.
hehehe and also you wrote android development, meaning you like Sammy-based ROMs, should have just entered it in the poll.
TheSaw said:
Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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As stated, you don't have to write why you like it, just click on what you use in the poll, and people who are actually interested would actually care about the stats. No ROM discussion is required if the repliers don't want to reply. Just a poll.
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Aosp every time.
Cheers
nicholaschum said:
Well, I dont see how this post is the same as those noob questions on whats the best rom you see, if i posted one of those questions, it would be all those "there is no such thing as a best rom, only what fits you" kind of answers all over the place. This is only trying to get people to know what kind of ROMs we are all running, and also its the kind of stats that gets people knowing how many people are using what kind of rom.
hehehe and also you wrote android development, meaning you like Sammy-based ROMs, should have just entered it in the poll.
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true Sir i did not see the poll you already had above as i was on the phone. but anyhow android development is not just sammy based roms you have MIUI in there plus CM7 like builds and ICS but personally for me..I like so far yes you got it right Sammy based roms....But as soon source code gets released and Siyah is out for CM9 and they get it more stable i am making the leap straight away....
Cheers...Still find this pointless thread but anywhoo
I also prefer stock ROM's.
Not to ditch efforts of all custom ROM makers, but two reasons my stock preference. I really don't trust enough to 3rd party applications much. That's even true for my desktop computer.
Second of all, I'm a bit lazy to deal with any problems, bugs or other stuff that may occur and obviously more chance of bricking phone with 3rd parties.
Third reason unlike most, I really like TouchWiz and additions that Samsung did over standard Android. I have two other Android based devices, one of them is default, other is HTC. I know they lack a lot of free utilities and touch & feel, (and no Sense does not cut it)
alsgrigorjevs said:
Incorrect, try Dice Player. It's fantastic and by far superior then Sammy stock.
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I should have mentioned that I used MX Video Player, which falls back to SW Codecs 70% of the time. Gonna do a quick install of CM7 and see what you say about Dice Player is true.
Logi_Ca1 said:
I should have mentioned that I used MX Video Player, which falls back to SW Codecs 70% of the time. Gonna do a quick install of CM7 and see what you say about Dice Player is true.
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Does MX video player rely on samsung codecs? because I use it with my stock rom and the latest versions play almost everything in Hw decoders.
Older versions used to play some video files in sw decoders , but now everything is hardware accelerated and I even use it instead of the default player.
So my understanding is that if an update made the app support more video formats in Hw decoding mode ,then it should be indpendent of the rom we're using ,right?
Anorexic stock for me. Never liked MIUI, and appreciate the stability/100% functionality of stock over CM every time.
Used the ROM kitchen on my SGS1, got used to having no bloat, and haven't looked back since.
The ROM in my sig ticks all my boxes.
I like Samsung Roms firstly for the Email app for my Company's exchange account. Also for the Enchansed camera app, for the BEST stability and Siyah Kernel for Speed and Battery life!
I voted for cyanogen, but honestly the best ROM is always the one I just flashed :laugh:
160dpi stock Sammy rom for me
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ASOP .............i give up

ok ..i give up What is the difference between my "out of the box" nexus7 rom and an ASOP rom. What are the pros and cons of each and which should I want???
patterone said:
ok ..i give up What is the difference between my "out of the box" nexus7 rom and an ASOP rom. What are the pros and cons of each and which should I want???
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well depending on the aosp..there are more features to it then stock. a con would probably be more bugs then stock since stock has no bugs i believe.
jarjar124 said:
well depending on the aosp..there are more features to it then stock. a con would probably be more bugs then stock since stock has no bugs i believe.
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What? Aosp is aosp. Android open source project. There's only one source. It can't "depend on the aosp".
Aosp means built from source which makes it easier to add mods and such. Otherwise stock aosp and stock OTA are pretty similar.
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Metallice said:
What? Aosp is aosp. Android open source project. There's only one source. It can't "depend on the aosp".
Aosp means built from source which makes it easier to add mods and such. Otherwise stock aosp and stock OTA are pretty similar.
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yes ik that but cyanogen mod is also aosp...as well as others.
W ouldn't AOSP be sorta pointless in a Nexus device, seeing as its basically a pure android experience (as is AOSP) straight out of Google? I get AOSP /AOKP on a Samsung /LG/Sony/etc that's plagued with crap and bloatware, but on a Google device?
Just think about it...
Yeah, the ideal rom to me would be a deodexed stock rom. That way you know everything works but mods are easier to add.
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Yeah, the ideal rom to me would be a deodexed stock rom. That way you know everything works but mods are easier to add.
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Nah. Mods are much easier to add to aosp. That's why CM and AOKP are modified from AOSP.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong here... But isn't the Nexus 7 an AOSP stock rim as is? I mean it seems to me like it's vanilla (AOSP) android with Gapps added... Remove theGapps and u have AOSP, no?
omegajester said:
W ouldn't AOSP be sorta pointless in a Nexus device, seeing as its basically a pure android experience (as is AOSP) straight out of Google? I get AOSP /AOKP on a Samsung /LG/Sony/etc that's plagued with crap and bloatware, but on a Google device?
Just think about it...
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depends on the rom. as mentioned before, some devs use AOSP as a base and add features to it. if you go for just a plan AOSP, then its semi-pointless. but if you go for a ROM that has AOSP as a base and adds a crapload of customisability to it, then there are some benefits. some have integrated equalisers, integrated speaker amplifer apps, more choices for screen settings, etc.

[Q] is there a list of ROM capabilities?

I've rooted and unlocked my N10 and loaded TWRP (or whatever it's called). So, I now have the ability to flash Roms (I've done it for ages on my Touchpad so the concept isn't new to me).
But is there a list of the different ROMs available and what each one brings to the table (over and above the standard one)?
regards
Alan
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
Always check out the sticky threads of any forum you join, my old nan used to tell me. How right she was
Btw it lists all roms/kernels available, for the list of features you will have to visit the thread of the rom. Personally, I would advice you to flash Vanilla Rootbox or PACrom.
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Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.
Is there any particular reason why u wanna flash a new rom?
KasF said:
Is there any particular reason why u wanna flash a new rom?
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yes, I want to see what else my N10 can do. I've been use CM9 on my TouchPad and it seems nice. But I was looking to see what else was around
Alan
It all depends on what you want from a rom. Some offer tablet ui and some don't. Others offer otg support while others have yet to.
If you can list some necessities I'm sure many users can input which is most suitable.
I've personally switched from PA ROM/KTmanta to Kaos/Franco. R11.
Tablet ui is a must for me on a.... Tablet
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johno86 said:
It all depends on what you want from a rom. Some offer tablet ui and some don't. Others offer otg support while others have yet to.
If you can list some necessities I'm sure many users can input which is most suitable.
I've personally switched from PA ROM/KTmanta to Kaos/Franco. R11.
Tablet ui is a must for me on a.... Tablet
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OK I need:
Tablet support
Smooth scrolling (check out Firefox in the standard ROM for how NOT to do it)
Bug-less wifi (standard ROM is not that good)
Anything else is just a bonus
Alan

What ROM are you using now?

Hi, I'm a new nexus 7.2 WI-FI owner, coming from an old Samsung Galaxy tab 8.9 with CM10.1.2
I've been playing with the stock ROM for a week now and I'm happy. I'm wondering if I'm missing anything staying in stock. My old galaxy nexus phone is also on CM10.2, haven't tried any Rom other than CM.
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Since the new Nexus 7 is Google's flagship device, they push out the latest release of the Android OS very quickly (first to get it). You have to ask yourself what's to be gained by using a custom ROM? Most folks who use them on their phones its to eliminate bloatware and run a later Android OS than their carrier has pushed out. The Nexus 7 Wi-Fi model doesn't have carrier loaded bloatware and you have the latest OS already. I run the stock ROM rooted . . . it's all I need.
Summit1 said:
Since the new Nexus 7 is Google's flagship device, they push out the latest release of the Android OS very quickly (first to get it). You have to ask yourself what's to be gained by using a custom ROM? Most folks who use them on their phones its to eliminate bloatware and run a later Android OS than their carrier has pushed out. The Nexus 7 Wi-Fi model doesn't have carrier loaded bloatware and you have the latest OS already. I run the stock ROM rooted . . . it's all I need.
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I haven't rooted nor installed customized ROM yet but what I'm missing about cm is the little customizable things such as options and layout of quick notification tiles, quiet hours, DSP manager, etc. Also very looking forward to the day some Dev can unleash the cellular function of the LTE version,
If you want some additional features like customizable shortcuts, HALO, lock screen shortcuts, PIE or something else, flash some other ROM. If you're a Nexus 7 WIfi owner, then it's not a big problem to choose one. There's a lot of them for FLO (32GB, Wi-fi). I'm personally using PAC Rom and ElementalX kernel, but it's just because I like Paranoid Android and AOKP features. If you don't want a lot of customizing, find something else, possibly lighter, faster, more battery efficient. Or simply use CM 10.2. And if going to settings to change Wifi state doesn't get on your nerves, you did rooting and want your device to run fast and have the latest OS, stay on stock.
I'm waiting for kitkat, so i figured if i root now, ill have to wait until someone gets the source and provide a flashable update. I'm originally from the Philippines but i stay in Ireland for 2 more months for a client im working with now. I bought the device in Dublin so I hope I get the update earlier than if i was in asia.
I actually miss being rooted and able to block annoying ads but i guess after the kitkat update I'll root immediately.
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I am stock, rooted. I really haven't seen the need for anything else at this point. I DO think rooting needs to be done, if for nothing else that Titanium Backup. Plus, I think it is silly to have a device that you don't have access to the file system. Kinda like installing Linux without the "su" function.
PJ Clifford said:
I am stock, rooted. I really haven't seen the need for anything else at this point. I DO think rooting needs to be done, if for nothing else that Titanium Backup. Plus, I think it is silly to have a device that you don't have access to the file system. Kinda like installing Linux without the "su" function.
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True that. But like Apple, Google is protecting the masses, aka non tech people, from breaking their own devices. Only knowledgeable people should root their devices.
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stgeorge88 said:
I haven't rooted nor installed customized ROM yet but what I'm missing about cm is the little customizable things such as options and layout of quick notification tiles, quiet hours, DSP manager, etc. Also very looking forward to the day some Dev can unleash the cellular function of the LTE version,
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You can do most of this on stock with Xposed Framework.
Using pandroid no problems or lock ups yet.
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CarbonRom and ElementalX kernel.
On my Galaxy S3 I also run Carbon with KT747 kernel.
mixterz said:
Using pandroid no problems or lock ups yet.
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I saw in one post they're having lockups at least once a day. Maybe you're not the heavy user type?
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martin707 said:
I saw in one post they're having lockups at least once a day. Maybe you're not the heavy user type?
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Not everyone experiences lockups. In fact, when everything works, people usually stay quiet.
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Summit1 said:
Since the new Nexus 7 is Google's flagship device, they push out the latest release of the Android OS very quickly (first to get it). You have to ask yourself what's to be gained by using a custom ROM? Most folks who use them on their phones its to eliminate bloatware and run a later Android OS than their carrier has pushed out. The Nexus 7 Wi-Fi model doesn't have carrier loaded bloatware and you have the latest OS already. I run the stock ROM rooted . . . it's all I need.
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I would think people are more likely to go the custom rom route because they wish to have more control over their devices, as in more settings/options. Then add in some of the cool additions rooms have.
Though some can be mimicked via apps.
Just the stock ROM; not rooted yet.
PA. Absolutely love PA.
PA and Franco kernel. Love the extra features of PA
Been using Carbon. I really like it and the nightlies have been very stable for me so far.
I'm running the latest PAC man ROM with elemental X kernel.
There actually is a lot to be gained... With this custom kennel I have double tap the screen to wake, swipe to sleep.
With PAC man you can also use the PA gapps to customize the colors of the apps. Also has swipe the top of the screen to adjust brightness. There are several themes as well. I run the PAC in black theme that comes with the ROM.
Just a few reasons why I prefer a custom ROM over the stock rooted rom
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I'm using AOKP and plan on staying with it. There wasn't anything wrong with the stock rom and I considered staying with it, its' the first android device where I wasn't unhappy with something. The reason I use AOKP is mainly because of how easy it is to theme it. Literally hundreds of options and changing the theme is like getting a new rom without the hassle of changing rom's. It's nice to have something new to look at when you get bored, plus I like all the rom control options like changing the battery icon and clock position and color.
Plus with this device its soooo easy to go back to stock I am not afraid of having any issues if I ever want to unroot and update.
I'm using AOKP, stable tablet ui with no need of changing dpi settings, adding 7 buttons to the navbar and customizing them.
Also use Carbon, for the lots and lots of features.
CM & franco kernel w/ DT2W

New Nexus Player-user! What will I gain by rooting and installing CyanogenMod 12.1?

Hi!
I'm a new Nexus Player-user!
I just picked up mine from the store and have a few questions before I dive into it all.
Mainly, what will I gain by rooting and installing CyanogenMod 12.1 on my Nexus Player? And maybe more importantly, will I lose any functionalities?
Is it OK to update the original firmware (if there is one) before I root and install CM12.1?
And last, is there anything else I should know or think about?
Any answers are helpfull!
Thanks in advance!
Over 60 have read, and no reply? :crying:
I'm just sitting and looking at this thing, itching to give it a try, but I don't dare until someone can answer my questions... Sorry for being such a stupid noob. I'm just scared to screw something up.
I just got mine as well. But i have a several year history of tinkering with android. As efrant taught me long ago with my gnex, read and understand first, tinker later. If you know exactly what you are doing and how youll recover in the event of failure, then you are set. If you just use toolkits and run into issues, most more experienced users will not have the patience to help the impatient. So... Have you booted it up and used the stock software yet? How do you like it? Anytime you change firmware you are gaining and losing. It can change the whole experience. Since you just got it though, one suggestion is to fastboot unlock it now, so you're not concerned with backups and losing data later. There is a guide around here.. Cyanogenmod has been around a while and its definitely worth trying their software. They likely have root in their firmware and you do not need to install it separately. Also, there is no real reason to update your rom if you are just going to swap it with cyanogen anyway.. I primarily use root for elevated privileges and tinkering. Until you know you need it, you can hold back. So onto my experience: I just hooked up my nexus player the other day and found it unbearable. Basic setup and it was unbelievably slow. The reason seemed to be the attempt to update its software in the background. So last night i did it manually, and boy what a difference it made. But it still is a bit of a letdown. My initial goal with it is to get xbmc back up and running for streaming. I have not fully investigated it yet, but i suggest you also look into it as another aftermarket option. See tvaddons.org; you are looking at kodi or tvmc.
I do have the Nexus Player rooted and a custom ROM. So far a bit better use of side loading applications and cloud applications. I like the flexibility.
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Thanks for your reply guys!
I've unlocked bootloader and rooted my NP, but nothing more than that.
I do like the stock rom quite a bit, especially the GUI, but I feel VERY LIMITED with such little storage space.
It's very off-putting that the voice search feature does not work with CM-12.1 yet, since I like it a lot, but not having the possibility of expanding my storage space with a usb stick with the stock rom is a BIG let down.
So it really comes down to what I value the most...
Is CM-12.1 the only custom rom that has a GUI that's very similar to the one on the stock rom?
Is voice search broken on all custom roms out there?
I am more of a iOS-guy, and this is really the first time dipping my toes into tinkering with Android.
give the dev preview of android m a shot. natively you can browse now additional memory. definitely better if you like the leanback experience. all other custom roms are giving more a complete android experience. as said, try the dev preview m. it surprised me a lot. of course there are some bugs in there but it let us hope to come more...
Much like the rest of other guys say. A custom ROM will give you a more "full Android OS" experience. I upgrade to 6.0 (M Preview) and must say the experience is great. I was able to use an OTG cable with multiple outlets to connect a USB keyboard/mouse combo and a 32GB flash drive I had laying around. The experience is great and works wonderfully.
Can this device run full Android apps with the stock firmware or is it limited to TV apps?
Codename_Falcon said:
Can this device run full Android apps with the stock firmware or is it limited to TV apps?
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Of course it can. You need to sideload them and use a mouse to have good control within them though.
dannyboyswe said:
Is CM-12.1 the only custom rom that has a GUI that's very similar to the one on the stock rom?
Is voice search broken on all custom roms out there?
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I know this is a little bit late and time has passed but the launcher for CM12.1 depends on what you select, and if you install GAPPs for android TV.
All custom ROMs built from the AOSP base have a broken voice search due to it being a proprietary binary driver with no open source component. Unless someone builds a wrapper or reverses and reimplements the driver this will continue for a long time.
It is great
Just get android 6

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