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Seems like lots of nexus 4 issues after rooting/custom ROM

I've been flashing ROMs for years on my devices, and my new nexus arrives in a couple of days, replacing my amazing Samsung Vibrant (currently whizzing along on a very fast and stable 4.2.1 build)..... hard to believe a phone that's coming on 3+ years old and was dropped by T-Mobile at Froyo!
Seems that folk's flashing custom ROMs/kernels are having a ton of issues, and my question is this.
If the concept of the nexus device is pure Google and the latest stable ROMs, why bother flashing half-baked ROMs that cause problems?
I would assume the nexus 4 has the latest 4.2.1 build and should be stable, no?
Just trying to figure out the advantages of flashing problematic custom ROMs when this phone gets tested, stable latest builds?
How can you possibly stay ahead of Google if this phone gets the latest update as soon as it's available?
Thanks, looking forward to joining the nexus 4 community.

Hello and welcome to the Nexus community.
People usually flash custom ROM not for latest build but latest features. Google might have latest builds going on with nexus line but there are many features that only custom ROM offers. For example, making a quick toggle actual toggle, not a quick shortcut.
Also custom ROM for nexus have been much more stable than other phones since nexus phones already is running stock android, which is very close to AOSP, developers don't need to do a lot of work for basic features.
With these being said, I'm sticking with stock rooted mainly because features custom Roms provide isn't really needed for me and definitely not worth losing a bit of stability. But everyone is different.
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kyokeun1234 said:
Hello and welcome to the Nexus community.
People usually flash custom ROM not for latest build but latest features. Google might have latest builds going on with nexus line but there are many features that only custom ROM offers. For example, making a quick toggle actual toggle, not a quick shortcut.
Also custom ROM for nexus have been much more stable than other phones since nexus phones already is running stock android, which is very close to AOSP, developers don't need to do a lot of work for basic features.
With these being said, I'm sticking with stock rooted mainly because features custom Roms provide isn't really needed for me and definitely not worth losing a bit of stability. But everyone is different.
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Cool, appreciate the reply.
I see you are running stock ROM, but custom kernel? Does the kernel help with improving battery life? I've read that the battery life on the nexus 4 is lack luster and will only get you through a day of average usage before needing a charge?
That will be the only thing that I will flash - kernels that improve smoothness of experience and increase battery life.
I recall the original Vibrant ROM's were good but battery was crap. Over time and with a very strong (still to this day) developer community, I'm getting a couple of days with average use....and that's on an old battery too!
I should get my phone delivered tomorrow, so am excited to see how it compares to my aging Vibrant (running HellyBean 4.2.1 and it's really very very fast).
Cheers!

Yes I am using Franco kernel because it gives me extra battery life while giving a smooth experience. Franco was smart enough to fix a problem that Google caused
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Does having TWRP and Stock ROM still allow OTA Google Updates?
kyokeun1234 said:
Yes I am using Franco kernel because it gives me extra battery life while giving a smooth experience. Franco was smart enough to fix a problem that Google caused
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I see that you have stock ROM but rooted with TWRP - I just completed this setup, despite being a little tricky as the auto downloads/updates from Wugfresh were not working (not an AV/Firewall issue - had them all turned off) so had to do a lot of manual install.
Anyway, my question is this:
If I stick with stock ROM and Franco Kernel, will I still get OTA updates from Google?
I'm not really interested in custom ROM's right now and would rather get the latest official from Google - I am assuming that is what you also want, hence emulating your setup.
Thanks.

Globespy said:
I see that you have stock ROM but rooted with TWRP - I just completed this setup, despite being a little tricky as the auto downloads/updates from Wugfresh were not working (not an AV/Firewall issue - had them all turned off) so had to do a lot of manual install.
Anyway, my question is this:
If I stick with stock ROM and Franco Kernel, will I still get OTA updates from Google?
I'm not really interested in custom ROM's right now and would rather get the latest official from Google - I am assuming that is what you also want, hence emulating your setup.
Thanks.
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Um as far as I know, technically yes, you will receive updates from Google. But I've heard that any modification can effect the update so I'm not expecting to use ota but I believe that great developers from xda will surely release a stock updated ROM with root and everything that you can flash on twrp. That's what I've been doing with galaxy nexus before using nexus 4
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I'm running the latest CM10.1 nightlies and have had no issues and great battery life.
My wife is running stock, unrooted with no issues and great battery life.
Keep in mind that it's the people with issues who are most vocal. I'm guessing that the majority have no problems either way.

Aosp is the same as stock. All nexus roms base on aosp plus officially supplied drivers. That means Google Android as you know it runs stable. Features on top of that are in development and that is what may cause some issues, but only if you use these features and only in their isolated scope. No one ever suffers from missing Wi-Fi, gps, Bluetooth, etc. I don't think i would put a rom on a non nexus device, the only reason i buy nexus is because it's an open platform and i can enjoy cool ideas and features.

Rooting Nexus 7 any point to?

I looked around but did not really see any great point in rooting the nexus 7, it gets latest updates from google as it is. Is there any point to root like beter battery and stuff, if so what are best roms to install on it?.
Thanks

seanoneill92 said:
I looked around but did not really see any great point in rooting the nexus 7, it gets latest updates from google as it is. Is there any point to root like beter battery and stuff, if so what are best roms to install on it?.
Thanks
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I recommend smoothrom, it's my favorite. I've been using it for months and it gets much better battery life than stock.

There are only two possibles with this question:
1) You like/love your Nexus 7 just the way it is and you're very happy with the performance and knowing it will get some official updates before most any other devices do (just like it did yesterday with 4.2.2 and it being only one of 4 devices to get it this early)
or...
2) You like/love your Nexus 7 just the way it is but you're interested in seeing just what it's really capable of because "pure stock" is never going to really show of what the Nexus 7 can do in terms of performance and even battery life.
If you're firmly situated in the type of person where #1 is absolute and true, then stick with what you've got. If you're the type of person where #2 is more akin to your interests, then obviously rooting is the way to go because it basically opens up those possibilities that "pure stock" simply can't offer.
As for what those opportunities are, well, that's why XDA- Developers exists: this forum has (according to the latest stats):
Threads: 1,724,770, Posts: 35,783,153, Members: 4,897,464, Active Members: 488,400
Suffice to say this place didn't get this popular with people running "pure stock."
And just for the record: rooting does NOT mean you must install a custom ROM or anything like it - rooting gives you the opportunity (along with unlocking the bootloader, obviously) of running custom kernels which can and do add a lot of goodies in terms of performance and battery life while still remaining with the stock ROM overall. Custom ROMs are just another bonus on top of unlocking bootloaders and rooting devices - they're not the end-all-be-all, however.
A lot of people don't quite get that so I figured I'd point it out...

If your running 4.2.2 rooting is impossible js
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Class_of_punk26 said:
If your running 4.2.2 rooting is impossible js
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No its not.

Just because you can't root and can't use Google search like the rest of us doesn't mean its impossible. It took me about 20 minutes to do it when I got it and I had no idea what I was doing. It's all because this wonderful thing we call Google search.
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Thanks everyone for the replies but i decided i wont bother rooting for now since its get new updates,when that stops ile root it

My Nexus 7 was rooted successfully and I have the latest version 4.2.2
Nothing is impossible ^_^
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I have a highly modded GNex phone and have been an active member of the Android Dev community for quite a while now. I love how I have configured my GNex and I wouldn't have it any other way.
With my N7, I just adore this thing totally stock, non-rooted, all locked-up. Not only can a stock N7 function beautifully IMO, I find that spending 0% of my time futzing with ROM selection, kernal selection, and endless tweaking allows me to dedicate 100% of my time to just enjoying and using the thing.
So, I Iike living in both worlds, on different devices, for different reasons. If you enjoy your N7 just the way it is, go grab it and enjoy it some more. That's just what I am doing. No need to question it!

That's kind of what I did as well, except the complete opposite of you. I've unlocked and rooted both my Gnex and N7, but my Gnex is stock. I left it that way so I can get the official updates, which I'm always curious about. The N7 is more like a testing tool, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Q] Anyone ditched KK for 4.3 or 4.2

Just curious to know how many have decided KitKat isn't for them on their Nexus 4s and gone back to a previous version of Android, be it 4.3 or 4.2?
Also, any particular reasons for moving away from KK?
Been on KK for a week or so but I do miss some of the customizations that more establish roms from previous versions offer such as theme engine and various tweaks. I appreciate some of the newer KK roms are getting there but it's still early days.
Thanks.

I switched back not because of the customizations. I am using complete stock. I switched back cuz its like a beta version. They said all the blue in UI will turn into white/gray but its stil blue. Just like a little part of the UI is like it should be. Kinda disappointed that its not done at 100%. Switched back to 4.3 and lovin' it.

I went back to 4.2 because I don't like the direction Google is taking. Now that Android has won the popularity vote, it seems Google is pushing forward more aggressively with its agenda, control.
Android was supposed to be about choices, yet I can no longer choose if I want to use talk instead of hangouts, AOSP browser instead of Chrome or other apps for example. You can no longer use HotSpot (T-Mobile user) unless you modify a db file. Things are being blocked or taken away while being forced into their ecosystem. Google plus, their recent youtube changes. Also instead of privacy being DEFAULT you have to dig deep into settings to enable it. The new Google caller ID while a nice idea, should be an option to enable not one that has automatically been selected for you. The whole agenda is to pry into your private information as much as possible AND make you feel comfortable doing so. But what ship can I jump to? iPhone? No thanks. Stop using smartphones? Not likely.. I guess for now my only option is using an older version of Android that is actually very functional.
Otherwise I do like the smoothness of KitKat, I'm just trying to choose the right ROM that brings back some of the old features with the new.
/sorry for the rant.

KitKat taste better than JellyBean.

What are you looking for as far as customization?

I am still running 4.2.2 on my Nexus 4, it has nothing to do with Kit Kat tho. I'm looking for a 4.4.2 rom that I'm comfortable with, but haven't found one yet. I don't do stock anything so that's out of the question. ?
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The sole reason for kitkat is art
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Kitkat is by far the smoothest Android version today imo, but still holding on to carbon 4.3 because of features and stability reasons. ?
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It is pretty clear when moving to KK that a lot of useful features have been taken away. Many more utilities need root access now to do things like control Airplane Mode or to read battery statistics. I'm sure Google will have some excuses around "security" but I just feel like the walls are closing in on Android. Also KK seems to have introduced more bugs than useful new features. I've had several irritating battery drain problems, partly due to stupid default settings but also to bugs. Seriously considering going back to 4.3 which was perfectly functional for everything I needed.

I stayed on 4.2.2 aokp milestone mostly because everything works perfectly fine without a bug. The only thing not letting me moving forward is the whole thing about using 1 default messaging app. For example i like the default messaging app but i need the quick send from chomp sms. No, i have to use only one. That's what's android is all about, ( the choice that you want to do with your device, if im gonna be taking all the good options away, then mind as well say go iPhone.

I had been using the stock rooted version of 4.4.2 for almost a week now and have been having trouble with the phone freezing up every few hours wherein none of the hardware buttons response. Need to restart the phone then
Not sure how many have been facing these issues
Now i m switching back to Carbon Rom again
maritimesbob said:
Just curious to know how many have decided KitKat isn't for them on their Nexus 4s and gone back to a previous version of Android, be it 4.3 or 4.2?
Also, any particular reasons for moving away from KK?
Been on KK for a week or so but I do miss some of the customizations that more establish roms from previous versions offer such as theme engine and various tweaks. I appreciate some of the newer KK roms are getting there but it's still early days.
Thanks.
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I'm waiting for a gingerbread ROM, best android version so far - but no ROMs for the nexus 4. Far faster than anything since.
If you're aware of one, please let me know.
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I'm on KK but I also feel that android(AOSP) is going in wrong direction: left side of home screen is Google now in gel, read somewhere and agree that it reminds like iPhone UI,
And all love for android is because is different than iOS, so im in doubt to downgrade, speed on jellybean is good for me and its smooth enough.
Greets
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andynx1 said:
I'm waiting for a gingerbread ROM, best android version so far - but no ROMs for the nexus 4. Far faster than anything since.
If you're aware of one, please let me know.
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It's not possible cause there are no drivers of N4 for gingerbread.
And kk is by far the best Android. I love the design, the features, the speed (ART). I haven't had any bug so far and I am using stock rooted. I think kk is the first of android revisions that's as smooth as ios or even better.

sandy-achar said:
It's not possible cause there are no drivers of N4 for gingerbread.
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Err, my "gingerbread" comment was meant as a joke.
Of course kk is the best yet, there's really no good reason not to use it. Unless you're a Luddite.
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andynx1 said:
Err, my "gingerbread" comment was meant as a joke.
Of course kk is the best yet, there's really no good reason not to use it. Unless you're a Luddite.
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LOL! That would be interesting tho.
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I can see why quite a few look at KitKat and think it a half baked product. It just doesn't seem quite complete, almost like it was rushed out in time for Christmas or something.
The wife has just had her KitKat OTA for her MotoG. She knows nothing about rooting and all the fun stuff, her phone is a phone! However she said she prefers it before the update as her battery life is much worse now. The MotoG comes with pretty much a clean Google rom.
I've tried KitKat again over the last week, but I'm going back to a 4.3 rom as it "feels" more complete if that makes sense.

maritimesbob said:
I can see why quite a few look at KitKat and think it a half baked product. It just doesn't seem quite complete, almost like it was rushed out in time for Christmas or something.
The wife has just had her KitKat OTA for her MotoG. She knows nothing about rooting and all the fun stuff, her phone is a phone! However she said she prefers it before the update as her battery life is much worse now. The MotoG comes with pretty much a clean Google rom.
I've tried KitKat again over the last week, but I'm going back to a 4.3 rom as it "feels" more complete if that makes sense.
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Rom's are a personal choice , my favorite right up until jellybean was Ginger bread and to be honest I wasn't overly impressed with KK.
However apart from Google trying to undo what android is about .
I can honestly say my battery life and general running is far better on kk and I really like it now.
Wouldn't think about returning to JB.
I missed network indicators and hated hangouts but after searching and fixing my dislikes I now believe my phone has never been this smooth , good looking and battery friendly.
Again its a personal choice but with a little searching and modding I think you can get good results on KK.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.

I'm happy with KK it looks nicer, but in saying so it doesn't feel complete but I guess that's why with have devs coding awesome ROMs to add anything they think is missing. For example... I'm running the latest 4.4 AOKP and at the moment its almost like a stock ROM with only a few features and tweaks. But in time everything we know and love from AOKP will be added. So all in all at the moment I think its just a waiting game while developers work their magic.
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chicohonda91 said:
I stayed on 4.2.2 aokp milestone mostly because everything works perfectly fine without a bug. The only thing not letting me moving forward is the whole thing about using 1 default messaging app. For example i like the default messaging app but i need the quick send from chomp sms. No, i have to use only one. That's what's android is all about, ( the choice that you want to do with your device, if im gonna be taking all the good options away, then mind as well say go iPhone.
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Have you even tried Kitkat? You can still use the default messaging app or any other sms app. When you first boot up Kitkat, by default hangout is a messaging app but you can change it. Hangouts > Settings > SMS > SMS Enabled > Default SMS app > Choose any other sms app you prefer.

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ok, a simple question.. so what?

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited ! I'm flashing right now. I was worried someone was just bumping an old thread !

Holy crap this is great news. Used PA on my old Samsung Infuse back in the day
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Interesting... Cant wait to see a fresh rom from them and try it out. Happy with Pure Nexus atm but im always for trying a paranoid rom.

best rom for nexus devices, i used this rom from nexus 4, nexus 5, now it avalible for my nexus 6, so nice

Great, just when I've sold my N6.
Hope they develop for the 1+1 though...

instruction not clear. stuck in patching system image unconditionally. what should i do captain?

don't use stock kernel if you unencrypted.........flash a different kernel if you are or you will lose everything...

simms22 said:
ok, a simple question.. so what?
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Seems to be a popular ROM and people are excited to see it back in action. That's what.

My nexus 6 is still on paranoid Android version of 5.1.1 how do I update to 6.0? Anyone know what I need to do (bootloader's radios etc) to successfully update? I'm currently encrypted and don't mind staying that way.
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flash the latest radio and bootloader, first, just to make sure
there is a thread in dev that has them all

fantasy2c said:
don't use stock kernel if you unencrypted.........flash a different kernel if you are or you will lose everything...
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Or use this... [MOD][GUIDE] Unencrypt/Flashable - Disable Force Encryption - Any Rom/Kernel and you can use the stock kernel and remain unencrypted.

I've been running this since the announcement yesterday and everything is going smoothly so far. Very stable so far with no reboots or app crashes. Not a ton of features in the rom yet but I'm sure with some time this will be an amazing Rom. It pretty much already is.

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Or use this... [MOD][GUIDE] Unencrypt/Flashable - Disable Force Encryption - Any Rom/Kernel and you can use the stock kernel and remain unencrypted.
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I messed up and allowed the ROM to boot before I could install a custom kernel or use that guide. TWRP is asking me for an encryption password now. Is there some kind of default password that got set or am I screwed?

Just skip it, I forget what to hit but don't type anything and hit enter or something, it'll skip thru it

murtaza02 said:
Great, just when I've sold my N6.
Hope they develop for the 1+1 though...
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They support 1+1 on their official release's: http://get.aospa.co/official/bacon

Anyone got the lockscreen to work?
Is Franco kernel working?
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mine is stuck in patching system image unconditionally., tried with franco and exkernel and stays there

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They support 1+1 on their official release's: http://get.aospa.co/official/bacon
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I tried their new build.
Wasn't too impressed. Charging is painfully slow, camera is horrible, flashing a custom kernel breaks the camera and it was a real challenge to actually get the ROM to boot.
Hope they fix it in their newer builds.
P.S: I'm talking about the 1+1 here, not the N6 in case anyone was wondering.
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Nexus 6P Running Paranoid Android.

Greetings,
So I am looking into running a custom rom on my Nexus 6P mainly to use custom themes and use a firewall of some sort, but I have no idea where to begin with gaining root access, I am running MacOS at the moment.
I came across the Paranoid Android rom and liked the fact it is still very much stock, is this rom safe and stable?
I ask this mainly because I don't wan't to have issues with some of my phones features not working, also what is the battery life like on this rom?
And finally does the swipe left for google now still there or is that only on the google launcher, and is the google now on tap still implemented?
Regards,
Josh

theantibyte said:
Greetings,
So I am looking into running a custom rom on my Nexus 6P mainly to use custom themes and use a firewall of some sort, but I have no idea where to begin with gaining root access, I am running MacOS at the moment.
I came across the Paranoid Android rom and liked the fact it is still very much stock, is this rom safe and stable?
I ask this mainly because I don't wan't to have issues with some of my phones features not working, also what is the battery life like on this rom?
And finally does the swipe left for google now still there or is that only on the google launcher, and is the google now on tap still implemented?
Regards,
Josh
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You can visit this thread. Personally, its not bad not the best though. Using it with Franco's kernel.