I have been browsing the droid turbo forums ever since I upgraded my gfs phone for vday and I am getting very confused to why the droid maxx xt is mixed in with the turbo topics.
I saw a root method for the maxx that does not work for the turbo, someone could easily end up downloading it and trying it, in the process brick their phone :'(
I was just hoping the mods would do some clean up of the threads and topics, etc. If there's a reason the maxx is mixed in please let me know, I'll greatly appreciate it
THANK YOU!!!!
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117micc said:
I have been browsing the droid turbo forums ever since I upgraded my gfs phone for vday and I am getting very confused to why the droid maxx xt is mixed in with the turbo topics.
I saw a root method for the maxx that does not work for the turbo, someone could easily end up downloading it and trying it, in the process brick their phone :'(
I was just hoping the mods would do some clean up of the threads and topics, etc. If there's a reason the maxx is mixed in please let me know, I'll greatly appreciate it
THANK YOU!!!!
Sent from my LGG3 using the original tapatalk pro!
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If you read before u download anything it wouldnt be a problem. The main reason they keep it all mixed together is i guess because they are identical in devices just one has an unlockable bootloader. Many people tried to get this to be changed so they are not mixed together but no luck.
I think will better have area for maxx, because turbo dont have unlocked bootloader or Lollipop yet.
117micc said:
I have been browsing the droid turbo forums ever since I upgraded my gfs phone for vday and I am getting very confused to why the droid maxx xt is mixed in with the turbo topics.
I saw a root method for the maxx that does not work for the turbo, someone could easily end up downloading it and trying it, in the process brick their phone :'(
I was just hoping the mods would do some clean up of the threads and topics, etc. If there's a reason the maxx is mixed in please let me know, I'll greatly appreciate it
THANK YOU!!!!
Sent from my LGG3 using the original tapatalk pro!
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Agreed! Separate forums would be very helpful.
Not droid maxx but Moto Maxx
Don't know that separation will not add more duplicity along with segregation, but might be helpful. What would be reasonable is if people started referring to the device designations like what always has to be done on Sammy devices across regions/carriers/bands. If the XT1225, XT1250, and XT1254 designations were used more people would likely stop coming to this forum looking for the Droid Maxx, Droid Razr Maxx, et al, as well as it help determine whether packages, methods, firmwares, ROMs (wishful thinking), and other schemes work across the devices or to what degree.
if nothing else Moto Maxx needs to be added to the forum title obviously, and preferably the three models be added to the forum somehow or at least thread titles/compatibility.
I know the FCC ID would be more specific to use but not as readily identifiable to most.
The Turbo and Maxx need separate forums. They are now testing different versions of android. This forum is becomming a maxx forum with little for the turbo.
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donsmith1964 said:
The Turbo and Maxx need separate forums. They are now testing different versions of android. This forum is becomming a maxx forum with little for the turbo.
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I agree 100%. The only drawback is if the forums do separate this place will be even more boring because of lack of development. Either way the separation needs to happen.
Another vote for separation.
Sent from my XT1254
yes, please.
There are a few threads on this already. My own thoughts are that separating the development sections would be enough. I suppose I have this opinion partly because I like to believe that people have functional brains and may actually bother to read a little before they flash. I also think that separating these completely would reduce the number of posters for both devices to the benefit of neither since there are few enough posters now. There is also some small hope that the turbo will get unlocked in which case most of what has already been done on the Maxx will be applicable to the Turbo.
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There are a few threads on this already. My own thoughts are that separating the development sections would be enough. I suppose I have this opinion partly because I like to believe that people have functional brains and may actually bother to read a little before they flash. I also think that separating these completely would reduce the number of posters for both devices to the benefit of neither since there are few enough posters now. There is also some small hope that the turbo will get unlocked in which case most of what has already been done on the Maxx will be applicable to the Turbo.
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this is turning into a moto maxx only forum.... needs some cleaning up.
That is because of the locked bootloader on the Turbo, Maxx owners will continue to post more often because they have more to post about. There is no clean up that will fix the locked boot loader and that is what has to change if you want more turbo directed posting. I'm not saying this to give you grief, it is my summation of the situation.
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It would be great to have two forum, one droid turbo, and other moto maxx, excellent :good: :fingers-crossed:
I'd vote for separation. Just as an example search M8 or S4. These have at least half a dozen forums for each phone variant. Why can't this phone have 2?
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I think will better have area for maxx, because turbo dont have unlocked bootloader or Lollipop yet.
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The name of this forum is "Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo". If they aren't going to separate the two, maybe they should rename the forum.
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The name of this forum is "Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo". If they aren't going to separate the two, maybe they should rename the forum.
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Right...
Essentially, fans of the Maxx took it upon themselves to post in this Verizon Flagship Device's forum because they decided their device was the same thing. Even though it's not.
Wouldn't be such an issue if XDA allowed ignore filters. I could filter out Maxx posts which keep cluttering up my feed. There has not between a single post on this section regarding the Maxx that I, as a Turbo owner on Verizon, find useful or interesting. Is rather come here and see no new posts rather than have to shan through a bunch of Maxx-related posts.
Sent from my XT1254
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Right...
Essentially, fans of the Maxx took it upon themselves to post in this Verizon Flagship Device's forum because they decided their device was the same thing. Even though it's not.
Wouldn't be such an issue if XDA allowed ignore filters. I could filter out Maxx posts which keep cluttering up my feed. There has not between a single post on this section regarding the Maxx that I, as a Turbo owner on Verizon, find useful or interesting. Is rather come here and see no new posts rather than have to shan through a bunch of Maxx-related posts.
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Only difference is locked bootloader, but if we have our forum will be more great, because locked device dont have much things to do here in xda
I'm going to expand on my previous remarks a little but let me preface this with the fact that back in the beginning I supported the idea of a separate Maxx section. I said so on the threads at the time discussing it as well as asking for it on the official device suggestion thread.
This said my position has changed over time due to the activity level of this forum section. I had thought originally that the Maxx would be introduced in more markets giving it a larger potential group of posters but this has not occurred. The Turbo of course is a Verizon only exclusive for an unknown period. This means it has a very limited market compared to global release devices. As I look at the situation now I don't see much changing in terms of getting new posters to contribute here from either camp and I believe the number of contributors to this forum will go down from here.
The primary benefit of a site like this is learning and sharing experience and this requires having an active community of posters. As is right now the activity level is already comparatively low and you have to ask yourself if this is a beware what you wish for situation. Yes splitting the forum will mean that posters no longer have the other device to contend with when you browse. Yes they did it in the S4 and many other sections as mentioned above but those were global release devices that could be divided while still retaining an active and lively forum within each sub forum of the device. We do not have that luxury, even combined our traffic is a small fraction of any one of the S4 sections.
In my opinion this section should be renamed Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx. They can share nearly all of their development and various mods should the Turbo ever get its bootloader unlocked giving both devices synergy from the other. It will keep more posters contributing to the benefit of both groups of owners. I would however separate the development sections to reduce confusion. This method has been used for other forum sections and it works pretty well. Its not perfect and it doesn't answer to every master but it is a decent compromise.
In the end I'm not trying to tell everyone what to think, I'm saying think about it. Everybody wants their own section and I count myself among them but I think in the end I'm better off sorting through some posts that are directed at a different device in this case than I am getting a section for the Maxx.
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Atrix and Photon have exactly the same hardware (Except some minor differencies), they have the same firmwares (Again with some minor differencies), so they have the same issues, the same news. That's why I suggest to merge Photon and Atrix forums to establish a better link with Photon owners.
This modification would make the ideas and news spread faster, and that would make a more unified community for our devices, so why not ?
I don't really think this is a good idea as not everything that works on the ATRIX works on the Photon and vice-versa. This may cause confusion between the new members (some may happily flash something built for the Photon on their Atrix and get a brick, who knows )
But still, maybe they could merge the general, Q&A and themes and apps section, but keep the development section separated.
Sent from that Atrix.
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I don't really think this is a good idea as not everything that works on the ATRIX works on the Photon and vice-versa. This may cause confusion between the new members (some may happily flash something built for the Photon on their Atrix and get a brick, who knows )
But still, maybe they could merge the general, Q&A and themes and apps section, but keep the development section separated.
Sent from that Atrix.
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I think the OP raises good points, but so does tatperson with the confusion. We already get quite a bit of confusion just between international vs american atrix.
Also, take note of the new users, who come in, do not read and go flashing & bricking. Definitely this is a NOT unless people learns how to use & read forums before doing useless stuff in their phones.
Sorry if there has been any offense meant, but, it has not been very much since I've joined the forum and all I see is new people who likes to barge in, screw their phones, flashing stuff then asking the same question across 20 threads or demanding stuff.... hell... well, i guess that's a forums destiny or maybe day after day i'm less tolerant to people .
Dammit, I'm getting old
I agree this is not a good idea. While the devices are quite similar, they are in fact different enough to each have their own board.
Just ask Th3Bill how "minor" his framework edits usually are. Another point - although he'd like to, he can't use Epinter's CM10 as a base because it's way too different and won't run on a Photon.
i do not think its a good idea,simply because they arent the same phone. it could be similar,but will never be the same phone = not the same roms,not the same guides and diffrent people who has the phones.
but i do think that we can have general,thems and apps and even accseroies at same fourms,but android developmnt - one for each
Yeah, i also agree. The photon uses a different Webtop too, so even Webtop Development is different.
Inde, the confusion for the new members is a good point. I had this idea because they did this for the Defy and the Defy (+) that have the same hardware and share many ROMs but it's a case almost similar to the Photon and the Atrix.
But if merging the forums isn't possible, is there any way to make a stronger link between Atrix and Photon forums ? This could help for both communities, and make a stronger one since many people left these phones for more recent ones.
Stronger Bond: Developers
You know, was kinda thinking the same thing recently, all I can say is that we should share the things we have in common. Like, certain dev projects ported here and there between our devices, certain other stuff. And also bunch up our devs lol, like rope everyone in to attain 'perfection' on both our devices
How about a test forum section? And a poll maybe, so we'll see how successful this will be.
Please create a new forum for the z3v. It's a different phone. It has a different camera. It has different hardware. It has different issues. We have one thread right now that must include everything. It's a tad difficult to sort things out.
Someone opened a photo sharing thread for teh z3v, and you closed it because "there's already a photo sharing thread". Understood, but that thread is for a different camera on a different phone.
Thank you.
David Troup
I agree as well. I have already posted this in the official device forum request thread but of course it's buried and ignored with a ton of other requests there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56223999#post56223999
I concur. We need our own forum.
It would be nice as it is a different phone.
+1
Camera is different, so picture comparison shouldn't be together.
Screen didn't have the battery saving refresh feature, so battery life can't be compared to regular z3
Dimensions are different so cases are different.
Either create a new device thread, or let us open separate threads under the z3
Agreed!!
I agree
New device page is needed.
Is there any development at all for the Z3v? Pretty sure they make forums based on popularity of devices and an actual device community, a locked bootloader Z3/Z3v wouldn't really get much development...
Text message duplicates. Yall still having that problem, or have u fixed the issue.
Yep, I'm not here to read about the regular Z3.
Elysian893 said:
Is there any development at all for the Z3v? Pretty sure they make forums based on popularity of devices and an actual device community, a locked bootloader Z3/Z3v wouldn't really get much development...
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The note 4 has international forum + one per carrier in the us and it's the all the same hardware. No root for the Verizon phone note 4 yet as far as I know.
They have forums for a lot of other new phones that don't have any development or root yet. Amazon fire 6/7 doesn't get lumped with other fire tablets because they don't have development yet. Droid turbo is in a separate thread, although it has droid in the name. If you go to the main forum page and look at the specs shown at the top, it's not matching the z3v. As a matter of fact, doesn't seem that the same boot loader rooting methods that work on z3 would work on z3v.
If after all this we don't get a new forum, at least let us have separate threads. As mentioned before camera is different, can't compare pictures with other z3 phones. Screen is different, needs different white balance thread. Screen doesn't have power saving feature like the z3, need a separate battery life thread. Body is different, no strap hike to that potentially leaks, can't use any of the cases for the z3.
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Text message duplicates. Yall still having that problem, or have u fixed the issue.
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So far a reboot has helped
Mountainfisher said:
Text message duplicates. Yall still having that problem, or have u fixed the issue.
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I don't have the phone yet, but i have seen this issue popping up. Folks are saying that you need to disable all but one of the messaging apps. I believe there are two that are running on the stock set up. Then a reboot couldn't hurt
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The note 4 has international forum + one per carrier in the us and it's the all the same hardware. No root for the Verizon phone note 4 yet as far as I know.
They have forums for a lot of other new phones that don't have any development or root yet. Amazon fire 6/7 doesn't get lumped with other fire tablets because they don't have development yet. Droid turbo is in a separate thread, although it has droid in the name. If you go to the main forum page and look at the specs shown at the top, it's not matching the z3v. As a matter of fact, doesn't seem that the same boot loader rooting methods that work on z3 would work on z3v.
If after all this we don't get a new forum, at least let us have separate threads. As mentioned before camera is different, can't compare pictures with other z3 phones. Screen is different, needs different white balance thread. Screen doesn't have power saving feature like the z3, need a separate battery life thread. Body is different, no strap hike to that potentially leaks, can't use any of the cases for the z3.
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The Note 4 is also a LOT more popular than a variant of the Z3 locked to one carrier. The Z1s never got its own forum. If a thread is for the Z3V then start the title with [Z3V], that's about all you can do.
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The Note 4 is also a LOT more popular than a variant of the Z3 locked to one carrier. The Z1s never got its own forum. If a thread is for the Z3V then start the title with [Z3V], that's about all you can do.
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That's our complaint. We had a thread for pictures for the z3v and it got closed because there's a general z3 picture forum.
Post in the Z2 forum!
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Post in the Z2 forum!
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We could post in the Z2 forum sure. But I enjoy reading about the pink spots and lack of wireless Charging on the Z3 so much I think I'll stick around. Now I am just joking, can't we all just get along.
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We could post in the Z2 forum sure. But I enjoy reading about the pink spots and lack of wireless Charging on the Z3 so much I think I'll stick around. Now I am just joking, can't we all just get along.
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Let's not forget about the lack of a luxurious use of a wrist strap which defeats the one of the biggest selling point of the Z3, functionality of its waterproof structure. XP
Sent from my D6708
GigaSPX said:
Let's not forget about the lack of a luxurious use of a wrist strap which defeats the one of the biggest selling point of the Z3, functionality of its waterproof structure. XP
Sent from my D6708
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Lol seriously, after seeing that I am actually glad that Verizon went with the more tried and true Z2 body. :good:
Every thread title should start with Z3v.
Z3v Battery Life
Z3v Camera
Z3v Cases
Z3v Post your pics
Z3v Reviews
Z3v Lollipop
Z3v Voice and Data
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There's enough confusion around this phone already, we need to make it as simple as we can for folks.
I'm a senior member of this forum. I'm 51 years old. I always used this forum for the several devices I own(ed) with great pleasure ever since I joined XDA.
This is the first time I start a thread because I need to say this!
My latest phone: the Moto G (2014), XT1068, is a great phone.
Unfortunately I can't say so about the XDA section here!
First of all there's very littlte development here. Understandable, because it's a relatively new device.
But now to my point: people here are starting threads for the most silly reasons and this morning I read a thread that almost made me leave this section and triggered me to make this thread.
I don't know what kind of people buy this device and then sign up for XDA, but I see a lot of 'unprofessional' posting. A lot of new people who obviously don't have any experience in flashing roms, kernels, recoveries, etc. Nor do they have much experience on this forum! A lot of people seem to have only signed up to know when a Lollipop update wil be there and how to get it! I'm afraid many people are just teenagers here...
I miss the threads with Orginal Developed roms, with questions and logcats to improve a rom. I miss Cyanogenmod, and all the other general roms...
Furthermore, I don't have anything against people of India. On the contrary, one of the best roms here is from an Indian: Pyr0_Bl4de with his Andro-X! But you Indians dominate the threads, not only here on XDA, but also on the Motorola Owners Forum with just asking for ETA's of Lollipop. Many people (and not only Indians) don't read and search first. They just post a question that has already been answered before.
I'm always willing to help, if I can. But somehow my patience has come to an end.
Possibly this thread wil be closed soon too. It doesn't directly contribute to the development here. But I wanted to have it said anyway.
Sorry in advance if I offended people!
smitharro said:
I'm a senior member of this forum. I'm 51 years old. I always used this forum for the several devices I own(ed) with great pleasure ever since I joined XDA.
This is the first time I start a thread because I need to say this!
My latest phone: the Moto G (2014), XT1068, is a great phone.
Unfortunately I can't say so about the XDA section here!
First of all there's very littlte development here. Understandable, because it's a relatively new device.
But now to my point: people here are starting threads for the most silly reasons and this morning I read a thread that almost made me leave this section and triggered me to make this thread.
I don't know what kind of people buy this device and then sign up for XDA, but I see a lot of 'unprofessional' posting. A lot of new people who obviously don't have any experience in flashing roms, kernels, recoveries, etc. Nor do they have much experience on this forum! A lot of people seem to have only signed up to know when a Lollipop update wil be there and how to get it! I'm afraid many people are just teenagers here...
I miss the threads with Orginal Developed roms, with questions and logcats to improve a rom. I miss Cyanogenmod, and all the other general roms...
Furthermore, I don't have anything against people of India. On the contrary, one of the best roms here is from an Indian: Pyr0_Bl4de with his Andro-X! But you Indians dominate the threads, not only here on XDA, but also on the Motorola Owners Forum with just asking for ETA's of Lollipop. Many people (and not only Indians) don't read and search first. They just post a question that has already been answered before.
I'm always willing to help, if I can. But somehow my patience has come to an end.
Possibly this thread wil be closed soon too. It doesn't directly contribute to the development here. But I wanted to have it said anyway.
Sorry in advance if I offended people!
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No brother i understand you, Everyone wants Lollipop and it has taken over every android owner lol
I know there is soo much LQ stuff here and that's why i don't post in here much..
And the biggest problem no Development :crying:
I buy this phone after seeing the Moto g 1st year Good Development , But damm i was wrong there is nothing here not even single aosp :crying:
You may think my post is also LQ but this is what i really think
smitharro said:
I'm a senior member of this forum. I'm 51 years old. I always used this forum for the several devices I own(ed) with great pleasure ever since I joined XDA.
This is the first time I start a thread because I need to say this!
My latest phone: the Moto G (2014), XT1068, is a great phone.
Unfortunately I can't say so about the XDA section here!
First of all there's very littlte development here. Understandable, because it's a relatively new device.
But now to my point: people here are starting threads for the most silly reasons and this morning I read a thread that almost made me leave this section and triggered me to make this thread.
I don't know what kind of people buy this device and then sign up for XDA, but I see a lot of 'unprofessional' posting. A lot of new people who obviously don't have any experience in flashing roms, kernels, recoveries, etc. Nor do they have much experience on this forum! A lot of people seem to have only signed up to know when a Lollipop update wil be there and how to get it! I'm afraid many people are just teenagers here...
I miss the threads with Orginal Developed roms, with questions and logcats to improve a rom. I miss Cyanogenmod, and all the other general roms...
Furthermore, I don't have anything against people of India. On the contrary, one of the best roms here is from an Indian: Pyr0_Bl4de with his Andro-X! But you Indians dominate the threads, not only here on XDA, but also on the Motorola Owners Forum with just asking for ETA's of Lollipop. Many people (and not only Indians) don't read and search first. They just post a question that has already been answered before.
I'm always willing to help, if I can. But somehow my patience has come to an end.
Possibly this thread wil be closed soon too. It doesn't directly contribute to the development here. But I wanted to have it said anyway.
Sorry in advance if I offended people!
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I agree with your every word, been here awhile myself..52 is my age..to many unneeded post, with no backbone, or real purpose except for wanting something, and not benefiting anyone else..thanks for your post Sir..
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5.0_22.11.6 Lollipop (Rooted)
TWRP v2.8.0.1-titan
UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.16
XT1064 Moto G (2nd Gen.)
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"Praise Jah" YOU people..
I couldn't agree more and am probably going to sell my phone for these very reasons. Thank you for saying it out loud.
Agreed, had many phones in the past, never seen such a boring section as this, multiple threads closed down because of stupid lollipop questions, imagine how motorola must feel with the amount of owners asking about LP all the time, I want the update like most of us, but come on people, get some sleep, go out and enjoy the fresh air doing walking, sports or family things and get on with your lives.
In the process of waiting for a new phone to arrive, as much as I like the dual sim on this phone, redraws, memory problems, screen touch problems are starting to get too annoying and I think it's nearing the time to say goodbye to the moto g 2014, sadly., but I will not be loosing any sleep over it.
@smitharro
well said...you can always report such posts,threads to moderator and help them to keep xda clean...i know most of the time i also tend to loose a patience but still being senior member means you have to report posts, keep posting good stuff and help others...i know you already done well for this forum....i will work on cm 12 as soon as stock lollipop arrives for my xt1068.
no ETAs but we will get some of the amazing roms for this device for sure...
hope to see your contributions keep coming...you are a good member of community....keep the good work!!!!
@ratyfu dont sell it yet....it is amazing device and motorola actually make wonderful hardware. My old Sprint Motorola photon 4g still the best.
@mtbgus well said!!
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No brother i understand you, Everyone wants Lollipop and it has taken over every android owner lol
I know there is soo much LQ stuff here and that's why i don't post in here much..
And the biggest problem no Development :crying:
I buy this phone after seeing the Moto g 1st year Good Development , But damm i was wrong there is nothing here not even single aosp :crying:
You may think my post is also LQ but this is what i really think
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+1
I bought this for good development of moto g 1.
i gave my nokia x to my younger sister for no development.
Poor me
I think everyone is waiting for lollipop as there is nothing to flash.
i hope situation will be changed soon
smitharro said:
I'm a senior member of this forum. I'm 51 years old. I always used this forum for the several devices I own(ed) with great pleasure ever since I joined XDA.
This is the first time I start a thread because I need to say this!
My latest phone: the Moto G (2014), XT1068, is a great phone.
Unfortunately I can't say so about the XDA section here!
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That's exactly why I made this thread. Forums are a mess, so I tried to put it all together in a single thread so people wouldn't get lost with all this Lollipop frenzy...
k2wl said:
@smitharro
well said...you can always report such posts,threads to moderator and help them to keep xda clean...i know most of the time i also tend to loose a patience but still being senior member means you have to report posts, keep posting good stuff and help others...i know you already done well for this forum....i will work on cm 12 as soon as stock lollipop arrives for my xt1068.
no ETAs but we will get some of the amazing roms for this device for sure...
hope to see your contributions keep coming...you are a good member of community....keep the good work!!!!
@ratyfu dont sell it yet....it is amazing device and motorola actually make wonderful hardware. My old Sprint Motorola photon 4g still the best.
@mtbgus well said!!
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To be honest, I did report several posts and threads. Most of them where closed after me complaining... But I'm always reluctant to say I reported, because I don't want to be flamed for it....
I'm not a senior member and I get a lot out of this section for our great phone, with advice and tips here I've improved it considerably from stock. I've also owned other devices and XDA is a great resource for those and will be for the Moto G 2014 in due course. Patience is the key, more development will come in time, although a couple of non stock kernels and at least one ROM are already here. Enough for me to be pleased about so far.
I don't pay to attention to the kind of threads you allude to, so am happy to ignore them, it takes all sorts to create an active forum, though gw's immature outburst earlier today was classic and earned him the temporary suspension deserved, we shouldn't let posters like that spoil XDA and derail the section. The thread title is usually enough for me to know if its worth opening.
I like this place.
+1
I am an indian, and a senior member of xda. Ported few roms for Galaxy fit as well. But i am also annoyed with ETA for lollipop kind of questions by naive users. Good Luck for Moto G(2014)
Sent from my Moto G 2014
btb55 said:
I'm not a senior member and I get a lot out of this section for our great phone, with advice and tips here I've improved it considerably from stock. I've also owned other devices and XDA is a great resource for those and will be for the Moto G 2014 in due course. Patience is the key, more development will come in time, although a couple of non stock kernels and at least one ROM are already here. Enough for me to be pleased about so far.
I don't pay to attention to the kind of threads you allude to, so am happy to ignore them, it takes all sorts to create an active forum, though gw's immature outburst earlier today was classic and earned him the temporary suspension deserved, we shouldn't let posters like that spoil XDA and derail the section. The thread title is usually enough for me to know if its worth opening.
I like this place.
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Thank you for this post. Unfortunately I already used my 8 thanks today.
To be clear: I still like XDA! There are several very useful threads, and very good how to's! Maybe I have to learn how to ignore the 'bad' threads. Bus as they say here in Holland: sometimes I can't see the forest anymore because of all the trees...
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But now to my point: people here are starting threads for the most silly reasons and this morning I read a thread that almost made me leave this section and triggered me to make this thread.
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If you thought that was bad, take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2942803
(Same OP)
The lack of any significant project work for the XT106x is easily accounted for -- an update to the next major revision is due OTA. No-one who is seriously considering working on this device is going to bother until then. And even then, it is best to wait for Motorola to publish the kernel sources.
I don't really understand the fuss about CM on the Moto G anyway. The stock environment is close enough to vanilla that I would be happy to apply Xposed (assuming it will eventually be rewritten for ART and the new framework), build a kernel with a few extra modules and useful patches, and then cook up a zip with half the gapps and motorola software removed... Job done.
It seems like 5.0 still has a few significant bugs to squash before Motorola are happy to roll it out. I'm glad they're taking a more cautious approach, rather than pandering to impatient and self-entitled kids.
I have been a member for nearly 10 years now, when XDA was a very small site dedicated to the XDA PDAs and phones back then. During this time I have seen the site grow into an extremely useful support and development forum for professionals and enthusiasts.
But now I am witnessing a slow decline in those people and a rapid increase in members who contribute nothing and complain when they don't get immediate help and don't thank you when you do give them that help. There are more and more vile trolls who stir up the community too. It's disheartening .
I am not a developer and I still see development as a black art which I would love to be a.part of. But over the years I have offered my help to those in need and spent many hours working through something technical in order to do that. Often as I said with no thanks.
I am not sure what we can do about the influx of those that spoil it for the rest of us. But I am not going to give up being a community spirited contributor to these forums and I hope you guys don't either.
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The lack of any significant project work for the XT106x is easily accounted for -- an update to the next major revision is due OTA. No-one who is seriously considering working on this device is going to bother until then. And even then, it is best to wait for Motorola to publish the kernel sources.
I don't really understand the fuss about CM on the Moto G anyway. The stock environment is close enough to vanilla that I would be happy to apply Xposed (assuming it will eventually be rewritten for ART and the new framework), build a kernel with a few extra modules and useful patches, and then cook up a zip with half the gapps and motorola software removed... Job done.
It seems like 5.0 still has a few significant bugs to squash before Motorola are happy to roll it out. I'm glad they're taking a more cautious approach, rather than pandering to impatient and self-entitled kids.
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For the most I totally agree with you! Still, for the past few years CM was my rom. So I was accustomed to it. It never ever crossed my mind when I bought this device, that there wouldn't be a CM for it... Call it naive, it probably is!
To make things clear: I'd prefer CM11 over stock lollipop! Even when this lollipop it's very vanilla and AOSP
Whatever, most likely there will be a CM12 in the (near?) future.
Guess I have to learn to be patient too...
@smitharro It is a sign of these times. People do not read. Do not give anything from each other. They think that it's okay to start hundredth thread on the same topic.
I'm on xda since 2008. My first phone call, because of which I set up an account here,is the HTC Wizard. I knew then that I was a noob, so I've read. I read everything possible,to not ask stupid questions, to find answers, to learn something.
People do not read and do not care about others.
Now I think that ignorance requires napalm and a bulldozer.
@rufflove i will always prefer cm over vanila aosp or stock mototrola....cm is way better than anything else out there...
and yes i am a member since 2008 ...and i used use my htc at & t 8525 hermes phone( ya that phone still working and i sometimes use it as my 3g modem).
That time xda used to be a site for windows mobile enthusiasts. (xda is name of windows mobile pda)
Now the members grown to enormous amount....
Still i think xda is the best site around to get help ...
@smitharro
Just simply keep watching otherwise we need to become Moderator xD.... Jokes Apart
Since my old was 5830i Galaxy Ace , i was happy with that forum it was because half of the forum was controlled by us ( RC's ) , no one was a big noob like don't know anything , even that person doesn't know anything but posting in right section helps him . In these forum when i came to see , my first observation was it is totally messed up with many new to ( ANDROID ) users get my point (ANdroid ) due to that , that members post anything what ever they think & just post .
To control these 1 . Take all over unread thread to be read and understood , then a genuine reply . ( it will take too long time not easy )
2. Or just simply reading there OP & hit report button .
3. Or just ignore them & simply watch .
I understood your thoughts , but what can we do 1 or 2 people against the whole bunch of million people so just time is a key wait for a while & we will be on track . Let they get little bit matured & understand what is XDA .
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@smitharro
Just simply keep watching otherwise we need to become Moderator xD.... Jokes Apart
Since my old was 5830i Galaxy Ace , i was happy with that forum it was because half of the forum was controlled by us ( RC's ) , no one was a big noob like don't know anything , even that person doesn't know anything but posting in right section helps him . In these forum when i came to see , my first observation was it is totally messed up with many new to ( ANDROID ) users get my point (ANdroid ) due to that , that members post anything what ever they think & just post .
To control these 1 . Take all over unread thread to be read and understood , then a genuine reply . ( it will take too long time not easy )
2. Or just simply reading there OP & hit report button .
3. Or just ignore them & simply watch .
I understood your thoughts , but what can we do 1 or 2 people against the whole bunch of million people so just time is a key wait for a while & we will be on track . Let they get little bit matured & understand what is XDA .
Thank You
Hitesh2626
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Funny! My daughter owned a 5830i once. It came to CM 9 quite stable! Then she dropped it on a rock while riding a horse. The phone rests in peace...
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Guys, lets ask for moto maxx forum proper way is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
Every member should do. Will be better for turbo and maxx.
Done. I made first tracks back before the phone came out. Subsequently I've gotten a few post quotes seconding it. If nothing else I think they should rename this one Moto Maxx XT1225 and then the problem will go away. See us Maxx owners being the generous, kind, handsome, and amazingly good lovers we are we would be willing to allow the Turbo owners to remain without complaint. Its just the kind of people we are.
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Done. I made first tracks back before the phone came out. Subsequently I've gotten a few post quotes seconding it. If nothing else I think they should rename this one Moto Maxx XT1225 and then the problem will go away. See us Maxx owners being the generous, kind, handsome, and amazingly good lovers we are we would be willing to allow the Turbo owners to remain without complaint. Its just the kind of people we are.
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I know you meant it to be funny but that was one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a while.
The development is wildly different for these devices and it makes total sense to at the very least make separate development subgroups.
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Done. I made first tracks back before the phone came out. Subsequently I've gotten a few post quotes seconding it. If nothing else I think they should rename this one Moto Maxx XT1225 and then the problem will go away. See us Maxx owners being the generous, kind, handsome, and amazingly good lovers we are we would be willing to allow the Turbo owners to remain without complaint. Its just the kind of people we are.
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Hope more people ask, for adms looking for us.
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I know you meant it to be funny but that was one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a while.
The development is wildly different for these devices and it makes total sense to at the very least make separate development subgroups.
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You would have known I said exactly that on the thread that came before the one where we last crossed paths (about the same subject which is why I mentioned you might want to peruse what had already been previously discussed before you continued) but I'm guessing you did not. In fact even then it wasn't the first time I said it. lol And yes, it was humor. See I have already been on a multi device forum section with devices which varied more in their development than they do here and there was far less cries for a split. I mean hugely less. For an old man like me these sort of things are both interesting and humorous. I apologize for trying to inject some humor into it, I know it was weak but I had hoped to keep the mood propped up to a more upbeat place.
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You would have known I said exactly that on the thread that came before the one where we last crossed paths (about the same subject which is why I mentioned you might want to peruse what had already been previously discussed before you continued) but I'm guessing you did not. In fact even then it wasn't the first time I said it. lol And yes, it was humor. See I have already been on a multi device forum section with devices which varied more in their development than they do here and there was far less cries for a split. I mean hugely less. For an old man like me these sort of things are both interesting and humorous. I apologize for trying to inject some humor into it, I know it was weak but I had hoped to keep the mood propped up to a more upbeat place.
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Show me one forum that has flashing/modding methods this dissimilar please that has combined forums.
You go on about cries for a split, I've never been on a forum that has had this many cries against a split, especially one that makes total sense.
Thats just it, most are not crying against a split, they are just tired of crying about it period. The moderators have seen this and reported it to admin several times, I know that the thing has been requested in the proper place because I and others have already done so and posted that they did so here. There is no question that admin has seen this and evidently deems for whatever reason that they do not want to split these off into separate forums. I and many other people have also asked for a split of development if they are not willing to make separate sections already and this has also been seen by admin. As I already suggested several times people should go to the proper thread and make their voices heard about this and maybe we get some action, maybe not.
As to showing you I'm not going to spoon feed you something which I already told you, it becomes irksome to repeat something over and over to someone who is not listening. Outside of this everyone under the sun knows that once the bootloader gets unlocked on the Turbo the development can be nearly completely shared with the Maxx. Yes, developers for the Moto X and other devices have already confirmed this for the stupid people like me which are lucky to get something to recompile. The thing here is you are not like me, you know more about working with this stuff than I ever will so it begs the question... Why am I telling you something you must already know?
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Thats just it, most are not crying against a split, they are just tired of crying about it period. The moderators have seen this and reported it to admin several times, I know that the thing has been requested in the proper place because I and others have already done so and posted that they did so here. There is no question that admin has seen this and evidently deems for whatever reason that they do not want to split these off into separate forums. I and many other people have also asked for a split of development if they are not willing to make separate sections already and this has also been seen by admin. As I already suggested several times people should go to the proper thread and make their voices heard about this and maybe we get some action, maybe not.
As to showing you I'm not going to spoon feed you something which I already told you, it becomes irksome to repeat something over and over to someone who is not listening. Outside of this everyone under the sun knows that once the bootloader gets unlocked on the Turbo the development can be nearly completely shared with the Maxx. Yes, developers for the Moto X and other devices have already confirmed this for the stupid people like me which are lucky to get something to recompile. The thing here is you are not like me, you know more about working with this stuff than I ever will so it begs the question... Why am I telling you something you must already know?
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So you can't show me one. It is true, I knew you couldn't.
Nope, asked and answered, you have already been told by me exactly which forum. You are going to have to actually pay attention and read what people are saying or continue being ignorant, your choice.
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Nope, asked and answered, you have already been told by me exactly which forum. You are going to have to actually pay attention and read what people are saying or continue being ignorant, your choice.
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I don't want to argue anymore, and withdraw my statements. The point is, until such a time (might) appear, the development is far too dissimilar for it to make sense as a combined forum. I am sorry you disagree, but its true.
Keep the same main forums, divide the development forums.
Exactly, you want to talk but you don't listen. All you hear is blah blah blah because the only thing important enough for you to listen to is your own voice. You were already told by me exactly which forum here on XDA the last time we traded posts. I'll give you a hint the devices have different SOCs, ram, screen, that help? I was just there five minutes ago because I still have that phone which nowadays is not normal since one of my kids or grand kids usually takes them off my hands when I upgrade.
You want to know which phone all you have to do is actually read what someone said and a quick search will give you your answer which you were already told in plain English. The forum section exists, the development is in fact far more different. Sorry man, the truth is out there and you cant BS your way out of it. Good night.
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Exactly, you want to talk but you don't listen. All you hear is blah blah blah because the only thing important enough for you to listen to is your own voice. You were already told by me exactly which forum here on XDA the last time we traded posts. I'll give you a hint the devices have different SOCs, ram, screen, that help? I was just there five minutes ago because I still have that phone which nowadays is not normal since one of my kids or grand kids usually takes them off my hands when I upgrade.
You want to know which phone all you have to do is actually read what someone said and a quick search will give you your answer which you were already told in plain English. The forum section exists, the development is in fact far more different. Sorry man, the truth is out there and you cant BS your way out of it. Good night.
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It took you 30 minutes to reply? How did you not notice I retracted my previous comment for the sake of stopping an argument?
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It took you 30 minutes to reply? How did you not notice I retracted my previous comment for the sake of stopping an argument?
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It was easy, I started to respond but I got a phone call and finished up after. I should have quoted you so your whole blah blah comment could not disappear, my bad. At any rate, it appears we are done now. Good evening.
Hope more people help, droid turbo users should do too
The complication is there is a U.S Moto Maxx, the XT1250 which has the same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254. Sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers The two phones are identical in every way, except for Verizon bloatware. Oh, and the XT1250 has bootloader that can be unlocked, phone can be rooted, and XT1250 will run on Verizon network with a Verizon SIM card. But Verizon Droid Turbo customers don't want to hear about that. Put fingers in their ears "La, la, la. I can't hear you."
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The complication is there is a U.S Moto Maxx, the XT1250 which has the same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254. Sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers The two phones are identical in every way, except for Verizon bloatware. Oh, and the XT1250 has bootloader that can be unlocked, phone can be rooted, and XT1250 will run on Verizon network with a Verizon SIM card. But Verizon Droid Turbo customers don't want to hear about that. Put fingers in their ears "La, la, la. I can't hear you."
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Good grief, it has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with the fact that we have entirely dissimilar development and flashing methods now. Entirely.Different. Therefore it should be separated. Does the 1225 need to flash images for mods? How about the 1250? How about WP? No? Ok then, it doesn't matter how similar or the same the internals are here.
This is not some ego trip and it doesn't matter one iota what the FCC ID says. The methods are different and there is no denying it. Not a little different, very, very different. You are so big on pointing out FCC IDs that you have missed the point entirely. This would cut down on confusion.
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Good grief, it has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with the fact that we have entirely dissimilar development and flashing methods now. Entirely.Different. Therefore it should be separated. Does the 1225 need to flash images for mods? How about the 1250? How about WP? No? Ok then, it doesn't matter how similar or the same the internals are here.
This is not some ego trip and it doesn't matter one iota what the FCC ID says. The methods are different and there is no denying it. Not a little different, very, very different. You are so big on pointing out FCC IDs that you have missed the point entirely. This would cut down on confusion.
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I agree the flashing methods are different. But before you (or others) were trying to say Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo were totally different phones, which was a LIE. The FCC ID of the XT1250/XT1254 proves that Moto Maxx model and Droid Turbo are identical in hardware, and anyone who says differently knows nothing about phones. Or at least ignorant about a an important technical area of phones. Seriously. There is so many legal ramifications to that FCC ID -- including the ADA law. So, it does matter what the FCC ID says. The XT1250 will even run on Verizon LTE.
Yes, developmentally they are different and we can continue the discussion from there. Because in a way the XT1250 is the "developer's" version of the XT1254. Already has bootloader that can be unlocked.
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I agree the flashing methods are different. But before you (or others) were trying to say Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo were totally different phones, which was a LIE. The FCC ID of the XT1250/XT1254proves they are identical in hardware, and anyone who says differently knows nothing about phones. Seriously. There is so many legal ramifications to that FCC ID. So, it does matter what the FCC ID says. The XT1250 will even run on Verizon LTE.
Yes, developmentally they are different and we can continue the discussion from there. Because in a way the XT1250 is the "developer's" version of the XT1254. Already has bootloader that can be unlocked.
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Lets fast forward to the present and stop living in the past. It doesn't matter what anyone said about them being totally different phones (and I never said that. Feel free to point it out if you can). This thread is not about any perceived differences in the phones internally. It shouldn't even have been brought up.
We sit here asking in many threads to split the Droid Turbo and the Maxx to avoid confusion and nothing happens. The freaking S6 just came out and it has 8 different forums. They won't even group the S6 and S6 edge together.
Why does the S6 need forums for each carrier and variant and we have to get other phones lumped into the DT forum?
The only thing "worss" is that spelling. The topic of this thread had already been addressed by a moderator.
Edit: c'mon man, it's not even on the second page of threads.
I made a tread asking help, all members asking in new device forum should help, but only few asking there
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354 ask here guys
gqskrub said:
The only thing "worss" is that spelling. The topic of this thread had already been addressed by a moderator.
Edit: c'mon man, it's not even on the second page of threads.
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Was posted from my phone (and the S and E keys are next to each other making thumb typing a bit mistake prone,, and you cannot edit a thread title. Sorry for upsetting your day so much. I did check the first three or four pages and saw nothing active on the topic. If someone has another thread on the S6 I totally missed it.
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Was posted from my phone (and the S and E keys are next to each other making thumb typing a bit mistake prone,, and you cannot edit a thread title. Sorry for upsetting your day so much. I did check the first three or four pages and saw nothing active on the topic. If someone has another thread on the S6 I totally missed it.
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You can edit a thread's title! Go to the advance edit option...
Why not open a Google plus community and get that organized??
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Some of these guys are just bullies. Teaching me "lessons" with pictures.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60446345&postcount=17666
posted an official request ^
Just trying to follow the rules.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60446345&postcount=17666
posted an official request ^
Just trying to follow the rules.
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Been waiting for this.
If we're being honest with ourselves, considering the ratio of Turbo to Maxx development, this should be the Moto Maxx forums. If you look at it that way, we are lucky to have a forum at all.
The forums split granted to the S6 isn't completely relevant here. There will be a much greater number of users in those forums than these which warrants the extra divisions.
Just denoted [Maxx] and [Turbo] or [XT1225] and [XT1254]. Should make things pretty easy to read. :good:
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Been waiting for this.
If we're being honest with ourselves, considering the ratio of Turbo to Maxx development, this should be the Moto Maxx forums. If you look at it that way, we are lucky to have a forum at all.
The forums split granted to the S6 isn't completely relevant here. There will be a much greater number of users in those forums than these which warrants the extra divisions.
Just denoted [Maxx] and [Turbo] or [XT1225] and [XT1254]. Should make things pretty easy to read. :good:
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It has nothing to do with popularity, it has to do with the disparity in development. I could give a rats arse what they name it, split the development forums. There have been several "official" requests and they still do nothing. Im sure a moderator will close this though and tell people to use the official method to request it, which obviously is also ignored.
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It has nothing to do with popularity, it has to do with the disparity in development. I could give a rats arse what they name it, split the development forums. There have been several "official" requests and they still do nothing. Im sure a moderator will close this though and tell people to use the official method to request it, which obviously is also ignored.
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I agree. It isn't about popularity. The domain name has "developers" in it. General discussion is not what this website is made for.
Which was my point. There is far more development for the Moto Maxx so technically these forums would be better served if they sported that name. And I, as well, don't really give a rip what they are named. I'm an intelligent enough being to determine what development works for my phone and what doesn't.
#inbeforetheclose
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We sit here asking in many threads to split the Droid Turbo and the Maxx to avoid confusion and nothing happens. The freaking S6 just came out and it has 8 different forums. They won't even group the S6 and S6 edge together.
Why does the S6 need forums for each carrier and variant and we have to get other phones lumped into the DT forum?
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Agreed, I am looking at getting a Moto Maxx but THE ENTIRE INTERNET JUST GOES... Moto Maxx? you mean DROID TURBO. God so idiotic
Just separate them already
Keep adding requests, I did
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I agree. It isn't about popularity. The domain name has "developers" in it. General discussion is not what this website is made for.
Which was my point. There is far more development for the Moto Maxx so technically these forums would be better served if they sported that name. And I, as well, don't really give a rip what they are named. I'm an intelligent enough being to determine what development works for my phone and what doesn't.
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I think of users. Must be the developer side of me.
Why Is This Even an Issue?
I think people are being too anal. On the MX14 forum, we share it with the Verizon, AT&T, Brazil and Pure Edition. There are other models, but those are the big 4.
The Brazil and PE have unlockable bootloaders and lots of development. The Verizon is tightly locked down but we have just gotten root with MoFo so we have a thread on that but the rest of the custom ROMs are irrelevant for our devices.
And the AT&T is hardly discussed b/c they don't even have an fxz to try to pre-root for MoFo.
Anyhow, 4 very different devices all sharing the same forum and nobody is bothered by it.
Now that the DT and the Verizon MX14 both have MoFo, the Verizon MX14 has more in common with the Verizon DT than it does with the MX14 PE.
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Why does the S6 need forums for each carrier and variant and we have to get other phones lumped into the DT forum?
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Um b/c there are about 5000 times as many S6 users worldwide then there are DT/Moto Maxx users. Maybe more.
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Um b/c there are about 5000 times as many S6 users worldwide then there are DT/Moto Maxx users. Maybe more.
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Fine, if that's the reasoning. If each one of the S6 phones are so different from each other that nothing common is shared between them for the sake of asking questions, then fine.
With that in mind then, would there be an issue splitting the officially named "Droid Turbo" development sub forums into Droid Turbo specific and Moto Maxx / Turbo Maxx development sub forums? Lots of great topics in the Dev forums, but sadly the vast majority don't involve the actual device the forum is named after.
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Fine, if that's the reasoning. If each one of the S6 phones are so different from each other that nothing common is shared between them for the sake of asking questions, then fine.
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Um, no that is not the reasoning.
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With that in mind then, would there be an issue splitting the officially named "Droid Turbo" development sub forums into Droid Turbo specific and Moto Maxx / Turbo Maxx development sub forums? Lots of great topics in the Dev forums, but sadly the vast majority don't involve the actual device the forum is named after.
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That to me seems like a good idea - you should propose that to the mods.