We sit here asking in many threads to split the Droid Turbo and the Maxx to avoid confusion and nothing happens. The freaking S6 just came out and it has 8 different forums. They won't even group the S6 and S6 edge together.
Why does the S6 need forums for each carrier and variant and we have to get other phones lumped into the DT forum?
The only thing "worss" is that spelling. The topic of this thread had already been addressed by a moderator.
Edit: c'mon man, it's not even on the second page of threads.
I made a tread asking help, all members asking in new device forum should help, but only few asking there
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354 ask here guys
gqskrub said:
The only thing "worss" is that spelling. The topic of this thread had already been addressed by a moderator.
Edit: c'mon man, it's not even on the second page of threads.
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Was posted from my phone (and the S and E keys are next to each other making thumb typing a bit mistake prone,, and you cannot edit a thread title. Sorry for upsetting your day so much. I did check the first three or four pages and saw nothing active on the topic. If someone has another thread on the S6 I totally missed it.
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Was posted from my phone (and the S and E keys are next to each other making thumb typing a bit mistake prone,, and you cannot edit a thread title. Sorry for upsetting your day so much. I did check the first three or four pages and saw nothing active on the topic. If someone has another thread on the S6 I totally missed it.
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You can edit a thread's title! Go to the advance edit option...
Why not open a Google plus community and get that organized??
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Some of these guys are just bullies. Teaching me "lessons" with pictures.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60446345&postcount=17666
posted an official request ^
Just trying to follow the rules.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60446345&postcount=17666
posted an official request ^
Just trying to follow the rules.
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Been waiting for this.
If we're being honest with ourselves, considering the ratio of Turbo to Maxx development, this should be the Moto Maxx forums. If you look at it that way, we are lucky to have a forum at all.
The forums split granted to the S6 isn't completely relevant here. There will be a much greater number of users in those forums than these which warrants the extra divisions.
Just denoted [Maxx] and [Turbo] or [XT1225] and [XT1254]. Should make things pretty easy to read. :good:
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Been waiting for this.
If we're being honest with ourselves, considering the ratio of Turbo to Maxx development, this should be the Moto Maxx forums. If you look at it that way, we are lucky to have a forum at all.
The forums split granted to the S6 isn't completely relevant here. There will be a much greater number of users in those forums than these which warrants the extra divisions.
Just denoted [Maxx] and [Turbo] or [XT1225] and [XT1254]. Should make things pretty easy to read. :good:
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It has nothing to do with popularity, it has to do with the disparity in development. I could give a rats arse what they name it, split the development forums. There have been several "official" requests and they still do nothing. Im sure a moderator will close this though and tell people to use the official method to request it, which obviously is also ignored.
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It has nothing to do with popularity, it has to do with the disparity in development. I could give a rats arse what they name it, split the development forums. There have been several "official" requests and they still do nothing. Im sure a moderator will close this though and tell people to use the official method to request it, which obviously is also ignored.
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I agree. It isn't about popularity. The domain name has "developers" in it. General discussion is not what this website is made for.
Which was my point. There is far more development for the Moto Maxx so technically these forums would be better served if they sported that name. And I, as well, don't really give a rip what they are named. I'm an intelligent enough being to determine what development works for my phone and what doesn't.
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We sit here asking in many threads to split the Droid Turbo and the Maxx to avoid confusion and nothing happens. The freaking S6 just came out and it has 8 different forums. They won't even group the S6 and S6 edge together.
Why does the S6 need forums for each carrier and variant and we have to get other phones lumped into the DT forum?
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Agreed, I am looking at getting a Moto Maxx but THE ENTIRE INTERNET JUST GOES... Moto Maxx? you mean DROID TURBO. God so idiotic
Just separate them already
Keep adding requests, I did
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I agree. It isn't about popularity. The domain name has "developers" in it. General discussion is not what this website is made for.
Which was my point. There is far more development for the Moto Maxx so technically these forums would be better served if they sported that name. And I, as well, don't really give a rip what they are named. I'm an intelligent enough being to determine what development works for my phone and what doesn't.
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I think of users. Must be the developer side of me.
Why Is This Even an Issue?
I think people are being too anal. On the MX14 forum, we share it with the Verizon, AT&T, Brazil and Pure Edition. There are other models, but those are the big 4.
The Brazil and PE have unlockable bootloaders and lots of development. The Verizon is tightly locked down but we have just gotten root with MoFo so we have a thread on that but the rest of the custom ROMs are irrelevant for our devices.
And the AT&T is hardly discussed b/c they don't even have an fxz to try to pre-root for MoFo.
Anyhow, 4 very different devices all sharing the same forum and nobody is bothered by it.
Now that the DT and the Verizon MX14 both have MoFo, the Verizon MX14 has more in common with the Verizon DT than it does with the MX14 PE.
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Why does the S6 need forums for each carrier and variant and we have to get other phones lumped into the DT forum?
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Um b/c there are about 5000 times as many S6 users worldwide then there are DT/Moto Maxx users. Maybe more.
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Um b/c there are about 5000 times as many S6 users worldwide then there are DT/Moto Maxx users. Maybe more.
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Fine, if that's the reasoning. If each one of the S6 phones are so different from each other that nothing common is shared between them for the sake of asking questions, then fine.
With that in mind then, would there be an issue splitting the officially named "Droid Turbo" development sub forums into Droid Turbo specific and Moto Maxx / Turbo Maxx development sub forums? Lots of great topics in the Dev forums, but sadly the vast majority don't involve the actual device the forum is named after.
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Fine, if that's the reasoning. If each one of the S6 phones are so different from each other that nothing common is shared between them for the sake of asking questions, then fine.
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Um, no that is not the reasoning.
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With that in mind then, would there be an issue splitting the officially named "Droid Turbo" development sub forums into Droid Turbo specific and Moto Maxx / Turbo Maxx development sub forums? Lots of great topics in the Dev forums, but sadly the vast majority don't involve the actual device the forum is named after.
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That to me seems like a good idea - you should propose that to the mods.
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There definitely needs to be at least a 20 post limit before making a new topic in the dev forum. I have seen many useless threads about issues that dont really exist and questions that should be in the Q&A section by people with 1-3 posts. I doubt anyone below 20 posts is going to contribute anything useful(hell i say 100, but im being nice) to the dev section, and even if they do, who is going to trust flashing something from a new user? Posting in currently open threads should not be limited, just creating new topics. Any opposed?
I think the developer section should be read only unless you're approved.
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Coming from a guy with less than 20 posts I agree. I don't post a lot as you can tell but when I want to look to see if there is anything new out on the development side I get tired of seeing useless post that should be here or in Q&A. I think a post requirement would lower the useless threads
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same here.
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Just look at how better organized the dev section is for the nexus. Im not saying they shouldnt be able to post at all, just not create new topics.
Nexus dev forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=559
I disagree, I think that posting a new topic in the development forum should be restricted somehow. Maybe by invite that is easy to apply for and easier to lose. If it were restricted by post count, we could be alienating new devs from other sites or phones. I think that topic starters in the development forum should be able to lock out non-developers from commenting if they want also. Its very frustrating to me (not a developer) when I am trying to read a development thread and its full of people making dumb comments or 300 posts thanking the developer while I'm trying to read the thread for something useful.
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I disagree, I think that posting a new topic in the development forum should be restricted somehow. Maybe by invite that is easy to apply for and easier to lose. If it were restricted by post count, we could be alienating new devs from other sites or phones.
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Valid point...
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I disagree, I think that posting a new topic in the development forum should be restricted somehow. Maybe by invite that is easy to apply for and easier to lose. If it were restricted by post count, we could be alienating new devs from other sites or phones. I think that topic starters in the development forum should be able to lock out non-developers from commenting if they want also. Its very frustrating to me (not a developer) when I am trying to read a development thread and its full of people making dumb comments or 300 posts thanking the developer while I'm trying to read the thread for something useful.
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Its all about trying to get your post count higher in order to make yourself look good.haha.......
I do agree on some kind of restriction, but how is one supose to get a post count of 20 if you cant post.
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Its all about trying to get your post count higher in order to make yourself look good.haha.......
I do agree on some kind of restriction, but how is one supose to get a post count of 20 if you cant post.
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Thing is, the board is able to do builtin post minimum blocking i believe. It cant do the other fancy application things and what not.
And you can always post everywhere else.
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If it were restricted by post count, we could be alienating new devs from other sites or phones.
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I really agree with this. There are plenty of people with good ideas who only bother to register when they have something interesting to share.
It might also be worthwhile to create a few sub-forums under the development forum. For example: one for ROMs, one for known fixes and one for fixes under development.
Richard
Mast3rpyr0 said:
And you can always post everywhere else.
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So are you suggesting that a new member with a worthwhile development idea should post in the General forum?
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I think the developer section should be read only unless you're approved.
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I agree under one condition... If I'm approved.
I agree.
I would also suggest that there be a panel established for "Jr. Members" to prove themselves worthy of posting in the dev section. That would enable devs new to the forum to have a voice and post worthwhile thoughts. The rest of us can just sit back and read!
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So are you suggesting that a new member with a worthwhile development idea should post in the General forum?
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I mean if you want to flash something made by someone with 2 posts then go head, but i most certainly will not. 20 posts was not hard at all, even without just posting crap. All you gotta do is find a few threads your interested in and post a few things in them and you got em.
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I disagree, I think that posting a new topic in the development forum should be restricted somehow. Maybe by invite that is easy to apply for and easier to lose. If it were restricted by post count, we could be alienating new devs from other sites or phones. I think that topic starters in the development forum should be able to lock out non-developers from commenting if they want also. Its very frustrating to me (not a developer) when I am trying to read a development thread and its full of people making dumb comments or 300 posts thanking the developer while I'm trying to read the thread for something useful.
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i agree the op should have mini admin powers to basically lock out people who are offering no help or productivity to the thread. of course it has to be approved by a real admin, you know like if i started a development thread and someone posted something stupid i could flag that user and ask an admin to basically make it so i have to approve their posts...it wouldn't create more work for admins it would make more work for the original poster, BUT if the original poster felt that these people are actually doing a disservice to their thread then i would imagine they would put in the time to edit out the dumb posts.
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I mean if you want to flash something made by someone with 2 posts then go head, but i most certainly will not. 20 posts was not hard at all, even without just posting crap. All you gotta do is find a few threads your interested in and post a few things in them and you got em.
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As you said, 20 posts is not hard to reach... yet that somehow would qualify a poster to then be able to post in the Dev area??? Fuzzy logic there. I don't think post count should matter one way or another, it's just another way to discriminate against people for no reason. What says that the more posts you have, the more important your contributions to the community? Nothing.
I do agree that I most likely would not flash a rom that was posted up by a new member, unless I really just wanted to test and had nothing to lose. Many people here have more than one device and can flash without worrying about interrupting their phone service.
Bottom line, someone could have 500 posts, with nothing real to contribue inside of those posts, and later, post a lame rom that isn't worth the time it takes to flash it. Whereas, another user could only have 1 post to say hello, and be very savvy in the dev arena, who happens to post up a kickass rom that everyone wants. Post count shouldn't be a determining factor.
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As you said, 20 posts is not hard to reach... yet that somehow would qualify a poster to then be able to post in the Dev area??? Fuzzy logic there. I don't think post count should matter one way or another, it's just another way to discriminate against people for no reason. What says that the more posts you have, the more important your contributions to the community? Nothing.
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Not true.
The implication is that since you have more posts, (200 +, IMO), one should be familiar with what questions to ask, the manner in which to ask them, and be able to understand the answer given. That said; I know there *some* people with high post counts that may not be as "technical" or knowledgeable, though there input is just as valid as anyone else's (if you really don't want to discriminate). Conversely, I've seen people with 20 posts who have made great contributions as well, technical or not.
In regards to this thread, I think the way XDA does its moderation is fine. Though it would be nice to have have restrictions on new users, one of the major reasons why we shouldn't is because, you can't gauge a new user's level of skill/knowledge via there post count, but rather what they contribute.
Sure the majority of new users may not know anything about Android or be technical, but often, when a new phone comes out (like the EVO) there have been "new users" who come from other Android forums (SDX, AC, PPG, etc) and contribute right off the bat (first post even -- e.g. Calkulin, Joeykrim, etc) because they were top developers in there respective previous forums; however not many people would know that and right away asssume that there initial posts may not be as credible as someone with 200+ posts. My point is gauging the level of "knowledge, technical skill, etc" based on ones post count isn't really reliable, rather people should focus there attention on what the OP's has to say about the topic at hand and his/her contributions overall.
I see no reason to limit new users, especially with a forum such as this one, where a new users curiosity is thriving to get answers and ask questions because they want to see what his/her new Android phone is capable of. We were all in the same boat at one point, we probably Googled "How to root the "X" and XDA was the first on the list, thus the reason for us being here now.
Open Source means contribution by whomever (technical user or non-technical user) it shouldn't matter. Whatever can better this community to allow each individual to get the best experience out of his/her device, is what the aim should be. Ultimately however, it would be nice if the person who has received something also contribute back to the community in some way or another, creating an endless cycle of new and ever changing questions, answers, ideas, and contributions for us all.
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Not true.
Really? Your post contradicts you.
The implication is that since you have more posts, (200 +, IMO), one should be familiar with what questions to ask, the manner in which to ask them, and be able to understand the answer given. That said; I know there *some* people with high post counts that may not be as "technical" or knowledgeable, though there input is just as valid as anyone else's (if you really don't want to discriminate). Conversely, I've seen people with 20 posts who have made great contributions as well, technical or not.
In regards to this thread, I think the way XDA does its moderation is fine. Though it would be nice to have have restrictions on new users, one of the major reasons why we shouldn't is because, you can't gauge a new user's level of skill/knowledge via there post count, but rather what they contribute.
Sure the majority of new users may not know anything about Android or be technical, but often, when a new phone comes out (like the EVO) there have been "new users" who come from other Android forums (SDX, AC, PPG, etc) and contribute right off the bat (first post even -- e.g. Calkulin, Joeykrim, etc) because they were top developers in there respective previous forums; however not many people would know that and right away asssume that there initial posts may not be as credible as someone with 200+ posts. My point is gauging the level of "knowledge, technical skill, etc" based on ones post count isn't really reliable, rather people should focus there attention on what the OP's has to say about the topic at hand and his/her contributions overall.
I see no reason to limit new users, especially with a forum such as this one, where a new users curiosity is thriving to get answers and ask questions because they want to see what his/her new Android phone is capable of. We were all in the same boat at one point, we probably Googled "How to root the "X" and XDA was the first on the list, thus the reason for us being here now.
Open Source means contribution by whomever (technical user or non-technical user) it shouldn't matter. Whatever can better this community to allow each individual to get the best experience out of his/her device, is what the aim should be. Ultimately however, it would be nice if the person who has received something also contribute back to the community in some way or another, creating an endless cycle of new and ever changing questions, answers, ideas, and contributions for us all.
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Yes, one would HOPE that this implication holds true, however, since it's not a guaranteed truth, it doesn't stand to reason that post count should be the qualifying factor in deciding if one could post or not. As far as the rest of your post goes, you and I are on the same page.
We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
Edit by Chainfire:
Please note various Q&A from the i9000 (unlocked European version) FAQ may still be relevant to your device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
ryukent said:
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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+1.
Agreed.
Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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This is the best post I have ever seen on XDA.
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What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
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/Twerd.
No point in separating everything....
-bZj
I liked the idea of different development forums And keeping everything else unified. I don't remember any of htc wm phones being separated by carrier. Why separate all of the galaxies?
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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The Themes and Apps sections will indeed have some redundancy, and we may remove those forums except from the main Galaxy S I9000. Then the trouble becomes that people will post about themes and apps with the OTHER forums like General, etc. So, we'll have to play it by ear and see how things go!
Keep the forums separate, but how about having a universal Themes and Apps topics all linked to the main one here?
can we have all the varieties themes and apps page link to the galaxy s one? Accessories and ROM dev. is nice to have separated but general and apps do not. If a thread poster feels it is phone specific he can just state the variant in the title no?
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We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
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So the admins decided to go against the popular vote? Marvelous.
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sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
Separate forums of the SAME device by US carriers??? WTF?
Disagree... completely.
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sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
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Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
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Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
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What amazing is they ask for a vote then go against it WTF
I think it would have been best to make them all in 1 forum and then have a sub forums for GSM and CDMA...
or make a sub forum for each device and a main forum for all of them to have a General...
cause there are many issues people are talking about in the Vibrant and the I9000 which are EXACTLY the same...
not to mention we need some stickies with common issues and questions..
On a similar note. The Samsung Vibrant or Galaxy S similar to the european version has 4 haptic buttons whereas the latter has only 2 and the
Big plastic intergrated middle button. Is this something people would prefer and would it be beneficial in the long run of android where it would
have been if the phone was to run windows 7.
BTW.... I Am not pleased that the American market also shipped this with the Avatar Film pre-installed...LOL!
Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
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Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
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Demanding a response from a mod isn't likely to be met well. There's a lot of exclamation marks going on there. I think you might've forgotten a couple of 1's.
Why does it need to be split, are you confused from the huge selection of roms and development that's going on
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
galaxy tab has no movement (compared with desire, nexus, galaxy-s and others).
divisions are not needed, imho.
the thread titles are explicit.
Not until the source for honeycomb is released.
I personally agree with the OP. I think the section need to be split. I don't think the titles are always explicit and can be confusing. They are less confusing when you've been around for a while because the Tab forum has like no movement as was said earlier. I'm just not sure how they can split since some of the euro roms work on CDMA devices.
I have to say that I too agree. Nothing is more frustrating for a CDMA SGT owner looking for goodies, than to have to scroll through countless GSM posts. Not all posts are clear, some say only (ROM) which works fine for any other topic, but as long as there are 2 versions of the product, there should be 2 versions of threads. Just my 2 cents...
Sent from my EVO using ESP.
I see no valid reason for this forum to be split, it would do more harm then good. What it infact needs is some sort of mandatory tagging scheme like the HD2 section has.
Devs need to tag their releases clearly and informatively to a set standard so users of their work have a clear and expected way of getting that info.
Example...
[10.MAR.11][ROM][GSM/CDMA] Release Name/Version [KERNEL]
This way you can clearly see the date and other needed info just by checking titles of topics.
You guys should visit the HD2 section and see how organised things are there, Yes there is waaaaay less dev work in the Tab section but better to start as you mean to go on.
I agree with both Grim and the OP.
I think what is desired is an easier way to find what will work with your device.
I moved to the Verizon version of this device from an original Moto Droid. With phones it seemed easier. If I was in the MotoDroid area, I knew that everything worked... (yeah, right) at least it was supposed to.
Here, it is much harder.
So either a consistent method of tagging a file posting or splitting. Either way solves the real goal.
Just my 14 cents...
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I don't see what that has to do with this..
Burning think its clear enough with the titles tbh. They state if they're CDMA or GSM.
Sent from my GT-P1000
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Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
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Agreed but not JUST to those carriers. Split it according to TYPE instead.
Its probably not going to be split. And a please would be nice.
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Its probably not going to be split. And a please would be nice.
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As you wish...
PLEASE!!!!!
I have been browsing the droid turbo forums ever since I upgraded my gfs phone for vday and I am getting very confused to why the droid maxx xt is mixed in with the turbo topics.
I saw a root method for the maxx that does not work for the turbo, someone could easily end up downloading it and trying it, in the process brick their phone :'(
I was just hoping the mods would do some clean up of the threads and topics, etc. If there's a reason the maxx is mixed in please let me know, I'll greatly appreciate it
THANK YOU!!!!
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117micc said:
I have been browsing the droid turbo forums ever since I upgraded my gfs phone for vday and I am getting very confused to why the droid maxx xt is mixed in with the turbo topics.
I saw a root method for the maxx that does not work for the turbo, someone could easily end up downloading it and trying it, in the process brick their phone :'(
I was just hoping the mods would do some clean up of the threads and topics, etc. If there's a reason the maxx is mixed in please let me know, I'll greatly appreciate it
THANK YOU!!!!
Sent from my LGG3 using the original tapatalk pro!
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If you read before u download anything it wouldnt be a problem. The main reason they keep it all mixed together is i guess because they are identical in devices just one has an unlockable bootloader. Many people tried to get this to be changed so they are not mixed together but no luck.
I think will better have area for maxx, because turbo dont have unlocked bootloader or Lollipop yet.
117micc said:
I have been browsing the droid turbo forums ever since I upgraded my gfs phone for vday and I am getting very confused to why the droid maxx xt is mixed in with the turbo topics.
I saw a root method for the maxx that does not work for the turbo, someone could easily end up downloading it and trying it, in the process brick their phone :'(
I was just hoping the mods would do some clean up of the threads and topics, etc. If there's a reason the maxx is mixed in please let me know, I'll greatly appreciate it
THANK YOU!!!!
Sent from my LGG3 using the original tapatalk pro!
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Agreed! Separate forums would be very helpful.
Not droid maxx but Moto Maxx
Don't know that separation will not add more duplicity along with segregation, but might be helpful. What would be reasonable is if people started referring to the device designations like what always has to be done on Sammy devices across regions/carriers/bands. If the XT1225, XT1250, and XT1254 designations were used more people would likely stop coming to this forum looking for the Droid Maxx, Droid Razr Maxx, et al, as well as it help determine whether packages, methods, firmwares, ROMs (wishful thinking), and other schemes work across the devices or to what degree.
if nothing else Moto Maxx needs to be added to the forum title obviously, and preferably the three models be added to the forum somehow or at least thread titles/compatibility.
I know the FCC ID would be more specific to use but not as readily identifiable to most.
The Turbo and Maxx need separate forums. They are now testing different versions of android. This forum is becomming a maxx forum with little for the turbo.
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donsmith1964 said:
The Turbo and Maxx need separate forums. They are now testing different versions of android. This forum is becomming a maxx forum with little for the turbo.
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I agree 100%. The only drawback is if the forums do separate this place will be even more boring because of lack of development. Either way the separation needs to happen.
Another vote for separation.
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yes, please.
There are a few threads on this already. My own thoughts are that separating the development sections would be enough. I suppose I have this opinion partly because I like to believe that people have functional brains and may actually bother to read a little before they flash. I also think that separating these completely would reduce the number of posters for both devices to the benefit of neither since there are few enough posters now. There is also some small hope that the turbo will get unlocked in which case most of what has already been done on the Maxx will be applicable to the Turbo.
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There are a few threads on this already. My own thoughts are that separating the development sections would be enough. I suppose I have this opinion partly because I like to believe that people have functional brains and may actually bother to read a little before they flash. I also think that separating these completely would reduce the number of posters for both devices to the benefit of neither since there are few enough posters now. There is also some small hope that the turbo will get unlocked in which case most of what has already been done on the Maxx will be applicable to the Turbo.
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this is turning into a moto maxx only forum.... needs some cleaning up.
That is because of the locked bootloader on the Turbo, Maxx owners will continue to post more often because they have more to post about. There is no clean up that will fix the locked boot loader and that is what has to change if you want more turbo directed posting. I'm not saying this to give you grief, it is my summation of the situation.
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It would be great to have two forum, one droid turbo, and other moto maxx, excellent :good: :fingers-crossed:
I'd vote for separation. Just as an example search M8 or S4. These have at least half a dozen forums for each phone variant. Why can't this phone have 2?
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I think will better have area for maxx, because turbo dont have unlocked bootloader or Lollipop yet.
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The name of this forum is "Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo". If they aren't going to separate the two, maybe they should rename the forum.
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The name of this forum is "Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo". If they aren't going to separate the two, maybe they should rename the forum.
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Right...
Essentially, fans of the Maxx took it upon themselves to post in this Verizon Flagship Device's forum because they decided their device was the same thing. Even though it's not.
Wouldn't be such an issue if XDA allowed ignore filters. I could filter out Maxx posts which keep cluttering up my feed. There has not between a single post on this section regarding the Maxx that I, as a Turbo owner on Verizon, find useful or interesting. Is rather come here and see no new posts rather than have to shan through a bunch of Maxx-related posts.
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Right...
Essentially, fans of the Maxx took it upon themselves to post in this Verizon Flagship Device's forum because they decided their device was the same thing. Even though it's not.
Wouldn't be such an issue if XDA allowed ignore filters. I could filter out Maxx posts which keep cluttering up my feed. There has not between a single post on this section regarding the Maxx that I, as a Turbo owner on Verizon, find useful or interesting. Is rather come here and see no new posts rather than have to shan through a bunch of Maxx-related posts.
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Only difference is locked bootloader, but if we have our forum will be more great, because locked device dont have much things to do here in xda
I'm going to expand on my previous remarks a little but let me preface this with the fact that back in the beginning I supported the idea of a separate Maxx section. I said so on the threads at the time discussing it as well as asking for it on the official device suggestion thread.
This said my position has changed over time due to the activity level of this forum section. I had thought originally that the Maxx would be introduced in more markets giving it a larger potential group of posters but this has not occurred. The Turbo of course is a Verizon only exclusive for an unknown period. This means it has a very limited market compared to global release devices. As I look at the situation now I don't see much changing in terms of getting new posters to contribute here from either camp and I believe the number of contributors to this forum will go down from here.
The primary benefit of a site like this is learning and sharing experience and this requires having an active community of posters. As is right now the activity level is already comparatively low and you have to ask yourself if this is a beware what you wish for situation. Yes splitting the forum will mean that posters no longer have the other device to contend with when you browse. Yes they did it in the S4 and many other sections as mentioned above but those were global release devices that could be divided while still retaining an active and lively forum within each sub forum of the device. We do not have that luxury, even combined our traffic is a small fraction of any one of the S4 sections.
In my opinion this section should be renamed Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx. They can share nearly all of their development and various mods should the Turbo ever get its bootloader unlocked giving both devices synergy from the other. It will keep more posters contributing to the benefit of both groups of owners. I would however separate the development sections to reduce confusion. This method has been used for other forum sections and it works pretty well. Its not perfect and it doesn't answer to every master but it is a decent compromise.
In the end I'm not trying to tell everyone what to think, I'm saying think about it. Everybody wants their own section and I count myself among them but I think in the end I'm better off sorting through some posts that are directed at a different device in this case than I am getting a section for the Maxx.
Guys, lets ask for moto maxx forum proper way is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
Every member should do. Will be better for turbo and maxx.
Done. I made first tracks back before the phone came out. Subsequently I've gotten a few post quotes seconding it. If nothing else I think they should rename this one Moto Maxx XT1225 and then the problem will go away. See us Maxx owners being the generous, kind, handsome, and amazingly good lovers we are we would be willing to allow the Turbo owners to remain without complaint. Its just the kind of people we are.
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Done. I made first tracks back before the phone came out. Subsequently I've gotten a few post quotes seconding it. If nothing else I think they should rename this one Moto Maxx XT1225 and then the problem will go away. See us Maxx owners being the generous, kind, handsome, and amazingly good lovers we are we would be willing to allow the Turbo owners to remain without complaint. Its just the kind of people we are.
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I know you meant it to be funny but that was one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a while.
The development is wildly different for these devices and it makes total sense to at the very least make separate development subgroups.
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Done. I made first tracks back before the phone came out. Subsequently I've gotten a few post quotes seconding it. If nothing else I think they should rename this one Moto Maxx XT1225 and then the problem will go away. See us Maxx owners being the generous, kind, handsome, and amazingly good lovers we are we would be willing to allow the Turbo owners to remain without complaint. Its just the kind of people we are.
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Hope more people ask, for adms looking for us.
adrynalyne said:
I know you meant it to be funny but that was one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a while.
The development is wildly different for these devices and it makes total sense to at the very least make separate development subgroups.
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You would have known I said exactly that on the thread that came before the one where we last crossed paths (about the same subject which is why I mentioned you might want to peruse what had already been previously discussed before you continued) but I'm guessing you did not. In fact even then it wasn't the first time I said it. lol And yes, it was humor. See I have already been on a multi device forum section with devices which varied more in their development than they do here and there was far less cries for a split. I mean hugely less. For an old man like me these sort of things are both interesting and humorous. I apologize for trying to inject some humor into it, I know it was weak but I had hoped to keep the mood propped up to a more upbeat place.
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You would have known I said exactly that on the thread that came before the one where we last crossed paths (about the same subject which is why I mentioned you might want to peruse what had already been previously discussed before you continued) but I'm guessing you did not. In fact even then it wasn't the first time I said it. lol And yes, it was humor. See I have already been on a multi device forum section with devices which varied more in their development than they do here and there was far less cries for a split. I mean hugely less. For an old man like me these sort of things are both interesting and humorous. I apologize for trying to inject some humor into it, I know it was weak but I had hoped to keep the mood propped up to a more upbeat place.
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Show me one forum that has flashing/modding methods this dissimilar please that has combined forums.
You go on about cries for a split, I've never been on a forum that has had this many cries against a split, especially one that makes total sense.
Thats just it, most are not crying against a split, they are just tired of crying about it period. The moderators have seen this and reported it to admin several times, I know that the thing has been requested in the proper place because I and others have already done so and posted that they did so here. There is no question that admin has seen this and evidently deems for whatever reason that they do not want to split these off into separate forums. I and many other people have also asked for a split of development if they are not willing to make separate sections already and this has also been seen by admin. As I already suggested several times people should go to the proper thread and make their voices heard about this and maybe we get some action, maybe not.
As to showing you I'm not going to spoon feed you something which I already told you, it becomes irksome to repeat something over and over to someone who is not listening. Outside of this everyone under the sun knows that once the bootloader gets unlocked on the Turbo the development can be nearly completely shared with the Maxx. Yes, developers for the Moto X and other devices have already confirmed this for the stupid people like me which are lucky to get something to recompile. The thing here is you are not like me, you know more about working with this stuff than I ever will so it begs the question... Why am I telling you something you must already know?
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Thats just it, most are not crying against a split, they are just tired of crying about it period. The moderators have seen this and reported it to admin several times, I know that the thing has been requested in the proper place because I and others have already done so and posted that they did so here. There is no question that admin has seen this and evidently deems for whatever reason that they do not want to split these off into separate forums. I and many other people have also asked for a split of development if they are not willing to make separate sections already and this has also been seen by admin. As I already suggested several times people should go to the proper thread and make their voices heard about this and maybe we get some action, maybe not.
As to showing you I'm not going to spoon feed you something which I already told you, it becomes irksome to repeat something over and over to someone who is not listening. Outside of this everyone under the sun knows that once the bootloader gets unlocked on the Turbo the development can be nearly completely shared with the Maxx. Yes, developers for the Moto X and other devices have already confirmed this for the stupid people like me which are lucky to get something to recompile. The thing here is you are not like me, you know more about working with this stuff than I ever will so it begs the question... Why am I telling you something you must already know?
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So you can't show me one. It is true, I knew you couldn't.
Nope, asked and answered, you have already been told by me exactly which forum. You are going to have to actually pay attention and read what people are saying or continue being ignorant, your choice.
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Nope, asked and answered, you have already been told by me exactly which forum. You are going to have to actually pay attention and read what people are saying or continue being ignorant, your choice.
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I don't want to argue anymore, and withdraw my statements. The point is, until such a time (might) appear, the development is far too dissimilar for it to make sense as a combined forum. I am sorry you disagree, but its true.
Keep the same main forums, divide the development forums.
Exactly, you want to talk but you don't listen. All you hear is blah blah blah because the only thing important enough for you to listen to is your own voice. You were already told by me exactly which forum here on XDA the last time we traded posts. I'll give you a hint the devices have different SOCs, ram, screen, that help? I was just there five minutes ago because I still have that phone which nowadays is not normal since one of my kids or grand kids usually takes them off my hands when I upgrade.
You want to know which phone all you have to do is actually read what someone said and a quick search will give you your answer which you were already told in plain English. The forum section exists, the development is in fact far more different. Sorry man, the truth is out there and you cant BS your way out of it. Good night.
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Exactly, you want to talk but you don't listen. All you hear is blah blah blah because the only thing important enough for you to listen to is your own voice. You were already told by me exactly which forum here on XDA the last time we traded posts. I'll give you a hint the devices have different SOCs, ram, screen, that help? I was just there five minutes ago because I still have that phone which nowadays is not normal since one of my kids or grand kids usually takes them off my hands when I upgrade.
You want to know which phone all you have to do is actually read what someone said and a quick search will give you your answer which you were already told in plain English. The forum section exists, the development is in fact far more different. Sorry man, the truth is out there and you cant BS your way out of it. Good night.
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It took you 30 minutes to reply? How did you not notice I retracted my previous comment for the sake of stopping an argument?
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It took you 30 minutes to reply? How did you not notice I retracted my previous comment for the sake of stopping an argument?
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It was easy, I started to respond but I got a phone call and finished up after. I should have quoted you so your whole blah blah comment could not disappear, my bad. At any rate, it appears we are done now. Good evening.
Hope more people help, droid turbo users should do too
The complication is there is a U.S Moto Maxx, the XT1250 which has the same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254. Sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers The two phones are identical in every way, except for Verizon bloatware. Oh, and the XT1250 has bootloader that can be unlocked, phone can be rooted, and XT1250 will run on Verizon network with a Verizon SIM card. But Verizon Droid Turbo customers don't want to hear about that. Put fingers in their ears "La, la, la. I can't hear you."
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The complication is there is a U.S Moto Maxx, the XT1250 which has the same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254. Sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers The two phones are identical in every way, except for Verizon bloatware. Oh, and the XT1250 has bootloader that can be unlocked, phone can be rooted, and XT1250 will run on Verizon network with a Verizon SIM card. But Verizon Droid Turbo customers don't want to hear about that. Put fingers in their ears "La, la, la. I can't hear you."
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Good grief, it has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with the fact that we have entirely dissimilar development and flashing methods now. Entirely.Different. Therefore it should be separated. Does the 1225 need to flash images for mods? How about the 1250? How about WP? No? Ok then, it doesn't matter how similar or the same the internals are here.
This is not some ego trip and it doesn't matter one iota what the FCC ID says. The methods are different and there is no denying it. Not a little different, very, very different. You are so big on pointing out FCC IDs that you have missed the point entirely. This would cut down on confusion.
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Good grief, it has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with the fact that we have entirely dissimilar development and flashing methods now. Entirely.Different. Therefore it should be separated. Does the 1225 need to flash images for mods? How about the 1250? How about WP? No? Ok then, it doesn't matter how similar or the same the internals are here.
This is not some ego trip and it doesn't matter one iota what the FCC ID says. The methods are different and there is no denying it. Not a little different, very, very different. You are so big on pointing out FCC IDs that you have missed the point entirely. This would cut down on confusion.
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I agree the flashing methods are different. But before you (or others) were trying to say Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo were totally different phones, which was a LIE. The FCC ID of the XT1250/XT1254 proves that Moto Maxx model and Droid Turbo are identical in hardware, and anyone who says differently knows nothing about phones. Or at least ignorant about a an important technical area of phones. Seriously. There is so many legal ramifications to that FCC ID -- including the ADA law. So, it does matter what the FCC ID says. The XT1250 will even run on Verizon LTE.
Yes, developmentally they are different and we can continue the discussion from there. Because in a way the XT1250 is the "developer's" version of the XT1254. Already has bootloader that can be unlocked.
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I agree the flashing methods are different. But before you (or others) were trying to say Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo were totally different phones, which was a LIE. The FCC ID of the XT1250/XT1254proves they are identical in hardware, and anyone who says differently knows nothing about phones. Seriously. There is so many legal ramifications to that FCC ID. So, it does matter what the FCC ID says. The XT1250 will even run on Verizon LTE.
Yes, developmentally they are different and we can continue the discussion from there. Because in a way the XT1250 is the "developer's" version of the XT1254. Already has bootloader that can be unlocked.
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Lets fast forward to the present and stop living in the past. It doesn't matter what anyone said about them being totally different phones (and I never said that. Feel free to point it out if you can). This thread is not about any perceived differences in the phones internally. It shouldn't even have been brought up.