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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum

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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084

That is brilliant. Can't believe I did not post it first, it is a peeve of mine, big time.

I would like to see this as well.

I support this!

It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.

yes, this would be a definite plus. and give us an off topic section for us sgs users as well.

+1 .....10 char

^bump^
as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums

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Wow...

I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.

I just hope my sticky stays a sticky

jz9833 said:
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
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It wasn't exactly like that at first I think..more precisely only the i9000 forum existed as it was the only device out at the time..
Right now we got almost the devices out the door and most of the stuff are compatible..if not minor tweaks make it compatible...
But yes thats exactly what the proposal will do..it will separate out the development with some room for cross development and keep the other categories like general the same

As long as the development sections are separate I think this its a good idea..
Especially if we have enough mods to watch over us...
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and also take out the Galaxy Spica subsection which no one seems to use.

I do like the idea though the only thing I'm worried about is people getting confused in the development section. And I'm assuming since the software is basically the same for all the phones then themes would work across all phones.

yeah that might be an issue. if we do merge, I think it's best if people start id'ing their thread with something like
[CAPT] dadada
[VIBR] dadada
[EPIC] dadada

Let me clear things up a bit....the Development thread will have sub-forums for each device...so anything that is unique or only for 1 device will be in the sub-forum...things that work on all devices or multiple devices will go into the main Development forum where we will tag it something like this "[V][C][F]" which would mean works for Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate only.

I agree, checking all the other SGS forums is a litle annoying.

kizer said:
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
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I was under the impression that the Vibrant and Captivate don't use the same cases (Captivate has lines vs curves), so already there is an instance where this idea falls apart.
Theres going to be a SGS with a keyboard soon, that case won't be compatible with cases for the other phones.
So....we could mix the Vibrant and i9000 forums because they're basically the same form factor, but why bother.
There is enough different about all these phones that it's probably better keeping them separated.
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With that said, when there is an issue with one phone, it does seem to carry over to the others and it is freaking annoying having to delve the forums of the other phones to find a solution.
Unfortunately, what is the "better" solution? Either one is going to be somewhat confusing for somebody.

Bump.
To the people that still doesn't know about this idea, please go vote if you would like to see the big Galaxy S family forum merged.
Thanks.

New forums or add sections? HELP!

Obviously a lot of you know that I run another forum, but the point of my post is not to try to recruit people over there, but to ask the mods here or the people posting with important information like firmwares, backups, dumps and mods, to help.
I have been noticing a lot of information posted on the galaxy tablet thread that is spread out all over the place and is very unorganized. We need to make sure when we post something that we make sure it says VZW, TMO, SPRINT, AT&T or whatever!
I have separated these section on my forums to limit the possibility of people screwing their tablets up with the wrong files. Feel free to throw a copy of the important post you made here on my forums if you want to keep it documented in a section thats it was made for. Other than that I am just asking to specify it accordingly here. Maybe we can do something like (VZW) in the front of the title or something.
XDA does a great job on keeping the forums neat, but with something this broad we need to separated it.
... Thoughts???

PM me the site you mention.
I agree that some prefix tags would be good. With vbulletin its easy enough to create selectable prefixes from a drop down menu also, so not too much hassle to set-up either.
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I totally agree i didn't see your thread yesterday so i started one trying to maby get some of the moderators to see about separating the hardware versions, if you could pm me your site as well that would be great

Check my signature for info. I will pm you link.
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UK/US markup might be an idea too.

the majority of us here at xda are talking about the eu version - GT-P1000
your forum has only the us tabs in subforums... this will confuse europeans even more

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the majority of us here at xda are talking about the eu version - GT-P1000
your forum has only the us tabs in subforums... this will confuse europeans even more
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Good point . Personally I'd be happy to see a sub-section for all the posts about Verison/AT&T/sprint and how to use the device as a phone etc. I'm sure it must be confusing for those with devices that are unlocked and have phone capability to wander through so many threads about things that are of no concern to them.

organization should be as follows:
GSM galaxy tab forum(atnt,tmo)
CDMA galaxy tab forum(sprint,verizon)
in each thread header your carrier should be listed by 3 letters eg.(att,spr,ver,tmo) then topic eg.( [theme],[rom],etc...)
this would keep things organized. if dev is to get anywhere on this device, organization is key...also many are noobs that flash roms for the wrong device; i feel that if its listed like this its your own fault if you cant read...As is i can see pps flashing roms for wrong device...wont happen to me but than again, im not your everyday android user..
i read post of someone noting that most users here have/are referring to euro version of tab. that is just selfish and inconsiderate...logic dictates that if the device was released 1st in europe than more in europe would have one...well it was released in U.S fairly recently and already there are many here posting using U.S models. this is xdA dev which DOES NOT specify EUROPEAN ONLY SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB DEVELOPMENT..many of us are AMERICAN. please be considersate and consider adding structure to your forum posts so we can get this tab to the top of the food chain where it deserves to rest as the undisputed champ @ this point in time....oranization people!!!​

It should actually be at least two forum categories:
Galaxy Tab GT-P1000 which would cover most of the world and most of the devices sold (or flashed to P1000 standards).
Crippled North American Tabs. It can then have a "Even More Crippled North American Tabs" subforum for CDMA versions.
As mentioned above, many "CNAT" owners would migrate up to the P1000 forum after they've flashed to that standard, leaving the "EMCNAT" owners a nice quiet place to hang out, where they can never answer the question of "Can you hear me now?".
Note that I'm a CNAT owner.

Honeycomb 3.2 global launch discussion

Since the mods have seen fit to lock all three threads relating to Honeycomb 3.2's launch tomorrow, I'm starting somewhere else that we can discuss this important news.
Perhaps the mods might consider merging threads rather than locking them, in future (especially when there was only a 4 minute difference in start time on the first two threads -- there's every chance that when the second thread poster started typing his post, the other one didn't exist yet.)
To get folks up to speed, here are the locked threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188621
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188627
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188754
Important info from these:
* HC 3.2 will be out for the Transformer in at least some markets tomorrow
* According to ComputerWorld, writing to SD isn't possible in HC 3.2. Hopefully this is specific to the Xoom, as this is a feature I use VERY regularly, and I'll be furious if it is removed.

the mod still referenced the whole SEARCH BEFORE POSTING RULE...
</removed tacky non-productive, useless comment>
I am amazed at how well Asus is at getting updates out. Granted my only previous experience in Android was with Samsung (Captivate) which is awesome in the Dev world (XDA devs really do awesome stuff on the Cappy), but Samsung and updates (whether it's their fault or not) have not been a good experience... plus I don't think they even do OTAs.
Asus has my attention, I'll keep an eye on what they continue to offer.

That second point really concerns me and I hope it's a generalisation.
Right now, I have Titanium Backup backing up to /Removable/MicroSD/TitaniumBackup. I do this primarily to keep the backups safe in the event I have to NVFlash the device and lose the contents of /mnt/sdcard (this has happened to me already!)

i bet we will see custom 3.2 from some of the well knowns within hours of it dropping. In other words, by the time Im awake, 3.2 will be an CWM update
Asus and the Dev's here are doing GREAT!

codeles said:
1 Post was posted at 11:40, the next at 11:44, the mod still referenced the whole SEARCH BEFORE POSTING RULE... I guess that's more of a check your brain at the internet thing... <wondering if this will get flagged>
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As I said, there was four minutes between threads. There's every chance that the second poster checked and there was no thread, then he spent 4+ minutes typing his own post.
But either way, there's no reason to lock a thread (still leaving a separate, duplicate thread which everybody sees and reads, but then can't reply to), rather than simply merging the two threads.
And it seems even more baffling to lock two threads as dupes, link to the supposed original, and then lock that too without any reason why, leaving people with nowhere to discuss what's one of the most important pieces of Transformer news in weeks...

I REALLY hope that the second point there is not true. I would not be as closed minded to say that it is not possible.....we just have to unlock it to make it possible.

knoxploration said:
And it seems even more baffling to lock two threads as dupes, link to the supposed original, and then lock that too without any reason why, leaving people with nowhere to discuss what's one of the most important pieces of Transformer news in weeks...
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I'm going to hope that at least 1 lock was an accident. That could happen... It's not normal to see a mod lock a thread without throwing a link to the rules in there for backup... but still... frustrating...
I modified my post to not be so tacky and to put it a little on topic... didn't really intend to steal your thread with whining..

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Digiguest said:
I REALLY hope that the second point there is not true. I would not be as closed minded to say that it is not possible.....we just have to unlock it to make it possible.
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Yeah, if the default firmware leaves us without write ability, this may be the point that finally pushes me to root my TF. I use this regularly, both to delete videos from my SD card when they've been watched (so I know what I've already watched), and to review raw files from my digital SLR, then delete the bad images to free up space. I also use the SD card as a way of transferring data between devices, because it's easier than faffing about with the network.

I am happy to see Asus doing these updates on such a regular basis. Since getting my second TF I have been increasing pleased with my purchase. Let's keep the momentum going.

bluecnc said:
I am happy to see Asus doing these updates on such a regular basis. Since getting my second TF I have been increasing pleased with my purchase. Let's keep the momentum going.
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Releasing lot of updates is one thing, all I want is fixes to some of issues we are having.

OK noob question here(only reason I ask is because Honeycomb and Tegra are completely different than any phone I have owned or do own). Will taking the OTA kill root on the Transformer? I probably won't accept it anyway and just wait for a flashable or nvflash 3.2 Rom. Anyway, thanks in advance folks.

codeles said:
I'm going to hope that at least 1 lock was an accident. That could happen... It's not normal to see a mod lock a thread without throwing a link to the rules in there for backup... but still... frustrating...
I modified my post to not be so tacky and to put it a little on topic... didn't really intend to steal your thread with whining..
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Guys - my apologies. I locked the thread by mistake. I did not merge the other two duplicate threads as it creates a mess. I have reopened the original thread located here and this one will be cleaned up and closed. Again, my apologies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188621

Coming from HD2 section.

Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc].
These standards make things much more orgnized overall and looking at this section sort of brings me back to when I was using the HTC Universal forum
I'm sure I will eventually find my way and learn to get used to going back to less standards, mostly because im sooo looking forward to getting the GS2 so everything else is second

Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply

GRiM-UK said:
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc]
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We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...

Kailkti said:
Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply
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Then I guess your illiterate.
peachpuff said:
We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...
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That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
2 good things about the HD2 forum is 1) Its huge amount of dedicated developer following and 2) Its organization. Even though I visit the forum daily so know which topics are new/updated its nice to see a standard topic title naming convention with date/type/title, That way you can see clearly from browse page which are updated topics with regards to builds instead of dates/titles been in random sequence.
Either way I'll have to learn to adapt back to this random naming as GS2 will be my daily device soon. However I wont miss my HD2 simply because it wont be going anywhere, I will still be using it to try new roms and also as a great backup.

I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
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HoustonsBirdman said:
I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
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Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
PS. Just want to add, I'm also a Galaxy Tab 7 user and that forum also (for the most part) keeps to a standard way of titling topics so its going to be hard to getting used to the dev sections here.

GRiM-UK said:
Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
Unfortunately many posters will not follow the rules and post questions in the wrong section .
We also have a greater share of idiotic repeat posts fails to use search posters .
Roms are labelled but they are often updated frequently within that thread and even have kernel changes .
Not saying i disagree with your viewpoint but suggest you contact the mods re your suggestion .
Noobs do find it hard to navigate .
jje
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Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.

GRiM-UK said:
That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
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That was a joke, we have a sense of humor here in the gs2 section
crachel summed it up pretty nicely.

GRiM-UK said:
Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
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Hey GRiM-UK, if you're coming from the HD2 and have used Hyperdroid, we've got pongster and doctorcete working their magic here yet again. It evolved into something different considering ROMs here are mostly based on stock (Some AOSP, MIUI and CM also) because of proprietary drivers which source isn't always available for sadly...
It does take some getting used to, as I do agree the HD2 forums were easier to understand (And less noobish to me), but you know... Sometimes you have to move on. haha. I mostly read the general page and the original android page, but the decent information a tad all over the place... So good luck!

crachel said:
Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.
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I think you misunderstand, Im very familiar with what a Rom and Kernel is and their tags etc and am not a n00b who gets confused.
I'm simply saying that it really benefits the forum when each release has a date tag at beginning of topic title instead of in random position or not at all. It means that all dates are in same line and each release is easily distinguishable by build date an you can check for updates at a glance and not rely on remembering all the version numbers.
Its a really small thing that makes a huge difference, Ill probably end up getting used to not having them but atm its really hard adjusting. The HD2 section is just far superior in organization imho.
For example checkout the HD2 NAND section compare to the Dev sectiosn here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
Please don't think I'm complaining or don't appreciate the work in this section, I'm just a bit disappointed that XDA or section mods hasn't tried to bring the convention to other forums, Guess I just assumed others were same by now.
I guess this will all change when XDA finally starts its release database.

welcome to the SGS2 section my friend!
Its quite different over here as one of the rules of being in the SGS2 section is we must deal with grumpy and abusive coders, who are to busy yelling and abusing than to actually get on working with the code!
You'll soon meet codeworkx soon enough....you lucky devil you....

[Q] Unite? Divide?

Don't know why I missed this but looking at this pinned mod-note http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381647 about subforums I need to ask again, since I didn't get any reply the last time (persistance )
Why all the different mail S4-forums? Verizon S4, A&T, T-Mobile S4. And then we have this "International". Are not all S4?
Do they not have so many things in common that can can't call the all S4? It's not once that you find a link here pointing to some other "main S4" where a script or a program is located.
If we should consolidate we should consolidate forums. Samsung Galaxy S4. That is the phone.
If there is specials made by Verizon? Subforum.
International verion - > I9505 (subforum)
Now I9506 --> Subforum
Then we have ONE Gereral, ONE Q&A and the rest are for the quirks that goes under the brand. That way we wouldn't have to see the same question in 5 forums. Nor hunt for someone that makes a cool thing that he/she will post in THEIR forum.
So. Keep it under one roof. Why don't we do that?
What is so special about the American brandings? Can't someone please explain that? A simlock can't warrant a whole top-level forum can it?

Well when you run xda you can organize it the way you want. Until that day, it will be run the way the people who do run it want to. Complaining about how its run is basically just rude.
If you think the different variants are all the same, go ahead and flash a ROM made for a different model without adding a model specific kernel or making other modifications. Let us know how that works for you. (Spoiler alert, it won't boot) They are different enough that it matters. The moderators understand this and organized the forums accordingly.
With them all grouped together every other thread would be someone with a soft bricked device begging for help.
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Sheesh. That you don't understand why we have specific forums for specific devices speaks volumes
'Why don't we do that ?' Because it's a dumb idea.
The way things are works as well as it possibly can, and as Skipjacks mentioned, removes the possibility of soft bricked (or worse) devices which could easily happen if every device was thrown into one forum & people assume which device a particular poster has.
For example, poster has some obscure I95x variant, person who answers thread assumes they have an I9505, tells them to go get I9505 firmware from Samfirmware & flash it = borked phone.

Skipjacks said:
Well when you run xda you can organize it the way you want. Until that day, it will be run the way the people who do run it want to. Complaining about how its run is basically just rude.
If you think the different variants are all the same, go ahead and flash a ROM made for a different model without adding a model specific kernel or making other modifications. Let us know how that works for you. (Spoiler alert, it won't boot) They are different enough that it matters. The moderators understand this and organized the forums accordingly.
With them all grouped together every other thread would be someone with a soft bricked device begging for help.
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