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Ok I really disappointed in the Xperia x10 development section.
The only usable Roms are based on 2.1. Now these roms are fantastic. Really do the job well and I would class them as fully operational.
Now the other threads based on 2.2,2.3,MIUI etc are indeed under development. Some excellent work going on and if the 3 Musketeers could only project manage then Im sure a full working rom would be achieved.
So really Im wondering why XDA does not have a full working rom section that allows noobs like myself to go to to download knowing its a fully tested working rom?
Now before the fanboys jump all over me I would state that I am a donator to worthwhile causes and development but seriously the roms released so far can in no way be advertised as stable enough for daily use. It is a phone after all....eg. In one prominent thread today a developer is congratulated for releasing a rom that cannot make a telephone call.......Yesterday one was congratulated for an update that doesnt allow the phone to even switch on!
I do notice in the majority of other areas of XDA there are plenty of full working roms for other devices. Im fully aware that SE's security on this device has so far made it impossible to cook a newer version of android without using old parts.
So perhaps the x10 forum sections do indeed need an area for full working roms. Id presume the developers would also like this so they can transfer there work to it when completed and in return be suitable rewarded for there efforts.
Your thoughts?
I'm releasing a gingerbread rom today with everything working! Oh hai jk guise nothing works lulz
On a serious note, free x10 has been great to me..only issue is camcorder, but it is otherwise perfect
fiscidtox said:
I'm releasing a gingerbread rom today with everything working! Oh hai jk guise nothing works lulz
On a serious note, free x10 has been great to me..only issue is camcorder, but it is otherwise perfect
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Thanks for your reply. I did indeed try this ROM but I was getting way to many errors in my day to day use for it to be considered stable for daily use. I was also not keen on the support from developer. I believe he has been MIA now for a considerable time....
I do fully understand though that without that developer I would not have been able to do the majority of things I have done to my phone....Hopefully this ROM will one day be Fully working and can be classified as such...
Weird I have not had a single issue... I use my phone a lot too.
I've been using wolfbreaks 2.2.1 CM6.1.3 for about ten days and it's stable. No stock videocam but flash & apps2sd more than make up for it. Very quick and aesthetically pleasing.
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fiscidtox said:
Weird I have not had a single issue... I use my phone a lot too.
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Well Im sure you are in the minority going by my experiences and the other comments in that huge thread!!!
I do appreciate though that we all use our phones in different ways....
sinkster said:
I've been using wolfbreaks 2.2.1 CM6.1.3 for about ten days and it's stable. No stock videocam but flash & apps2sd more than make up for it. Very quick and aesthetically pleasing.
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Again tried and far from stable! Perhaps though that is where the issues arise....One mans stable is another mans manic!
My version of stable is a ROM that allows me to use all my hardware functions and reports no errors.....Just like stock....
Ever think maybe it's you? I've been keeping up with the free x10 thread and most people don't report errors other than the camcorder..
non working camera and videocam is a deal breaker for me, therefore still sticking with official.
fiscidtox said:
Ever think maybe it's you? I've been keeping up with the free x10 thread and most people don't report errors other than the camcorder..
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No I am experienced enough thanks to this site to dowload the rom and install. If you cant see the other reports of errors in that thread then perhaps it is me and I need my eyes tested....
Battery drainage?
Screen responsiveness?
Dropping 3g connection?
To name but 3......
Anyhow going slightly off topic when really the point is too see if anyone else thinks a section for fully working roms would be helpful?
sinkster said:
I've been using wolfbreaks 2.2.1 CM6.1.3 for about ten days and it's stable. No stock videocam but flash & apps2sd more than make up for it. Very quick and aesthetically pleasing.
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If thats the one on V4....then i agree its really good. Besides no video recording it has been awesome. Probably my fav rom higher than 2.1.
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I think it's a great idea, but it will be difficult because of the word "fully worked/stable" (what for one person is stable is not for another)
Sure you could put that section in but don't expect to see a single rom that is 2.2+ in there. I realistically as much as i hope I'm wrong don't expect to ever see one in there. This phone is pretty much at the end of it's run now and the bootloader is still locked with no intention from SE to unlock it due to certain copyrighted materials and the such. Sad but a fact i think we all need to start facing.
I almost think we're at the point where there is very little more that can be done other than variations of the same roms already available.
Please do not take this as a shot at the devs as i have much respect for the work they do and without them my phone wouldn't be half what it is today. But in my opinion its time to stop wishing and hoping for things that just aren't in the cards with this particular piece of hardware.
did you come here just to complain? atleast they are making something and wasting thier time for us stop moaning and if your unhappy then dont flash the roms otherwise be happy with what you get.
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No I am experienced enough thanks to this site to dowload the rom and install. If you cant see the other reports of errors in that thread then perhaps it is me and I need my eyes tested....
Battery drainage?
Screen responsiveness?
Dropping 3g connection?
To name but 3......
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These kind of bugs are always reported about OFFICIAL ROMs also Just read every thread after every update from SE etc
I'm using [MOD][rendeiro2005]Cyanogen6.1.3_v01 (CM-updated) for many weeks now for my daily use... Working awesome... Camera works, just video-recording doesn't work properly... This is the only issue... ROM works like a charm
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Ever think maybe it's you? I've been keeping up with the free x10 thread and most people don't report errors other than the camcorder..
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The FreeX10 (beta4) is still 2.2.1 (I'm using it as we speak, very stable, I can't complain). The only 2.3 ROM I've seen discussed for the SE Xperia x10 is Cyanogen CM7.0 RC1 v005 Gingerbread 2.3.3, which --based on current thread discussion, I haven't tried it myself-- appears to be very unstable at this time.
If there's another 2.3 ROM for the X10 circulating the forums, I haven't seen it. Then again, I haven't really looked through the entire thread.
great
I like what this was supposed to become but not what it s actually.
I'm also a new x10 user, I come from htc desire (z). and I was happy to see that it was far more easy to root the x10i and remove the root when the phone has to go for reparation.
It was not my intention to come and play with different roms, but deu to a wrong installation of a theme I had to instal a custom rom. Now, I like the stock X10 interface. so I'm looking for roms who runs better as the stock rom but look more or less the same...
any suggestions?
Mano1982 said:
These kind of bugs are always reported about OFFICIAL ROMs also Just read every thread after every update from SE etc
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Not true. I don't have those issues, and neither does Eternity, Blue Sparks, etc.
I think this is a good idea, but in practice would fail. There are FAR too few "fully functional" ROMs to warrant a separate forum. Maybe we should just start using [STABLE] tags or something.
There would seriously be like 5 legit posts in that forum, and then it would get filled up with crap till it's unusable.
for u, i think the stock rom and the JIT mod will do it for u if u like the stock rom =)
I really respect the efforts of developers to port all roms to our x8, but see sony is a Japanese company they know what x8 can hold and what it can't , so they stopped updating it after 2.1.a...
I've tried 2 roms myself
1. GingerDX 0.8 and 0.9
2. FroyoBread 0.20
and after 1 day switched back to stock rom using xrecovery, the reason was performance was like I was playing Assassin's creed brother hood on fx5500 overclocked..
i'm not *****ing about something, i'm just sharing my opinion, you may not agree with me but in my experience stock rom is so far best for x8.
maybe in future gingerDX will get better, but right now it's very slow in performance it's like when You installed few applications , it starts to lag... common, what is phone for? to call someone in emergency, what if you're touching the Dialer Icon on your screen 5 times and it opens after 10 Seconds and when you touch the dial button it takes more 5-6 seconds to dial..
sorry if I hurt someone..
Erhm, mine is doing alright, with GingerDX.
Then again, i havent tried a single game on this phone.
I'm also no offense, Stock ROM is on 2.1, Custom's are on 2.2/2.3. Which means we have more useful features, for e.g: App2SD. Also, our devs makes our CPU runs smoother, you can see it on benchmark, it's over 3000 without OC!
If you think just some lag on dialer which makes you feel Custom ROM is not good as Stock ROM, just use Stock ROM.
yah i'm using stock rom now and sticking to it for a long time now, the only featured I liked in custom rom was text to speech in sms, is it possible in stock ? can't find it anywhere...
orangzeb said:
but see sony is a Japanese company they know what x8 can hold and what it can't , so they stopped updating it after 2.1.a...
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LOL! Do they? Or are they trying to make costumers buy their new phones?
And yes you are *****ing, saying that the devs work is worthless because it makes the phone slow..
YES I'M MAD
Well, I really do respect your opinion, but see, I know there are several ROM`s here and there, some of them functional, while others are kinda beta stage, there is no offense in saying what you think as long as you say it with respect, which is just what you did, but guess what?, I am using miniCM 7 2.0.5a in a daily basis, for some weeks now, and I don`t have any kind of trouble at all, everything works fine for me, of course stock ROM may be the most stable, but also is very limited in some areas, ie: there are some apps which need 2.2 and up to run, I have USB tethering and WIFI hotspot functionality, automatic market updates, enhanced copy-paste and a (not so) few extras.
All in all, what really matters is to enjoy your phone, we do with our rooted ones, we really enjoy playing, searching, experimenting, discovering, we are free just as linux is.
Nikkopt said:
LOL! Do they? Or are they trying to make costumers buy their new phones?
And yes you are *****ing, saying that the devs work is worthless because it makes the phone slow..
YES I'M MAD
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you're just moaning, I never said anything bad about developers, so just use custom and let me use stock...
I didn't join this forum to spam, but to share opinions, as everyone does...
a noob huh, pretty much offensive language, okay it's no use talking here I guess..
if you had a company like SONY you would be doing the same, why don't u buy Xperia Ray which is even water proof, if you love features ? don't have money ? then buy Nokia 3310
No offense, but as I see you don't need Android phone then. It's more than just a phone, and beacuse of this, it is slower in some aspects than a normal simple mobile. Keep in mind that all OS on phones are slower than any non-OS phone (like old SEs, W300, K810...etc).
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orangzeb said:
I really respect the efforts of developers to port all roms to our x8, but see sony is a Japanese company they know what x8 can hold and what it can't , so they stopped updating it after 2.1.a...
I've tried 2 roms myself
1. GingerDX 0.8 and 0.9
2. FroyoBread 0.20
and after 1 day switched back to stock rom using xrecovery, the reason was performance was like I was playing Assassin's creed brother hood on fx5500 overclocked..
i'm not *****ing about something, i'm just sharing my opinion, you may not agree with me but in my experience stock rom is so far best for x8.
maybe in future gingerDX will get better, but right now it's very slow in performance it's like when You installed few applications , it starts to lag... common, what is phone for? to call someone in emergency, what if you're touching the Dialer Icon on your screen 5 times and it opens after 10 Seconds and when you touch the dial button it takes more 5-6 seconds to dial..
sorry if I hurt someone..
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I have tried every rom on this Dev site and in my opinion they're a million times better than the Sony Erricson rom. i respect your opinion but come on, the stock rom crashed all the time on my X8, added a contact had to restart, switching to custom roms was my best decision with this gone, i'm using GingerDX.v008 and had no trouble with any of the GingerDX roms
Nikkopt said:
LOL! Do they? Or are they trying to make costumers buy their new phones?
And yes you are *****ing, saying that the devs work is worthless because it makes the phone slow..
YES I'M MAD
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SE want us to buy neo/play/arc these high-level's phone. But they makes us not to buy their phone anymore by not upgrading X8.
If Sony thought like that, wouldnt it be better for them to upgrade gingerbread, so what we think great se supports any phone and since x8 is so good, then other se phone must be better so they would maintain a loyal customer base
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Hey man, you aren't forum moderator. Just stfu ok?
orangzeb said:
you're just moaning, I never said anything bad about developers, so just use custom and let me use stock...
I didn't join this forum to spam, but to share opinions, as everyone does...
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I respect your opinion, i just don't accept it.. You didn't say directly that their work is worthless but in your opinion why should people use or prefer a ROM that just makes the phone slower and laggy? Why should people prefer that, right?
That's about the same thing as saying that it's not worthy to use a custom ROM.
Tyanno, you really need an anger therapy.. Leave your house a bit, go watch the trees and the birds
Aiduharan said:
If Sony thought like that, wouldnt it be better for them to upgrade gingerbread, so what we think great se supports any phone and since x8 is so good, then other se phone must be better so they would maintain a loyal customer base
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Yes, but now they're not upgrading our phone or unlock bootloader either.
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Tyanno, you really need an anger therapy.. Leave your house a bit, go watch the trees and the birds
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lol, i dont
its just unfair to complain devs and their roms in a 'nice' way
i wonder what makes the thread creator visit these forums regularly?
Aiduharan said:
If Sony thought like that, wouldnt it be better for them to upgrade gingerbread, so what we think great se supports any phone and since x8 is so good, then other se phone must be better so they would maintain a loyal customer base
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Exactly , this is where I agree with you... but money talks u know.. so maybe they don't care, this is real world... maybe I install too much applications to slow down custom roms..
peace..
Tyanno said:
lol, i dont
its just unfair to complain devs and their roms in a 'nice' way
i wonder what makes the thread creator visit these forums regularly?
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And i wonder why did you just registered this month
Tyanno said:
lol, i dont
its just unfair to complain devs and their roms in a 'nice' way
i wonder what makes the thread creator visit these forums regularly?
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I visit this forum co'z I'm a human not a robot, I need help with my new x8, I never used android before, I had a w910,w800,w810,j300
and know what I'd bought those phones 3 times each..
if this thread was that bad, who gave it a rating of 1 star in just 10 minutes ?
OK I have been reading threads in this forums and I'm sorta lost and annoyed. I read a thread saying that an official update for ICS can brick your phone so you need to do a full reset or something like that. I am confused as to why an official release 'might brick your phone' and I 'should proceed with cautions'. An official release of any OS should be stable and shouldn't cause such issues right?
I am pretty upset that ICS is still yet released for Galaxy Note, not talking about the prototype but the full software and still with the prototype it is 'risky' to update. Honestly I don't bother with custom OS, I prefer official releases and just have it rooted but now I am looking towards 'PARANOIDANDROID' rom, though I haven't flashed it because I'm waiting for it to be updated (so it can play MP4 and other stuff) but still its released faster than the official full ICS and has several features the android people should have added in the begining that are not added to ics. (Only one thing is PA doesn't have SNOTE which is kinda essential to the phone and I don't think the devs will add it) So because of this I also find it really dumb that our warranty is voided if we flash a custom firmware.
I am really confused as to what is happening and am I wrong at some part, can some one explain and post your thoughts about this topic. My point of this thread is just to ask about the 'may brick your phone' part and to see what you guys think about this entire thing with android and their prototypes instead of official releases and cfw. I truely blame android's (or samsung) latesness in releasing the OS for people opting for custom roms than sticking to the official ones. Android really has so much potential since it is 'open' unlike iOS but they are not bringing their A game to the table.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124
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I don't understand the whole thing but it's really scary and i'm now afraid to flash a CFW and i really wanna avoid bricking my phone. Can someone explain it more clearly, from what I understand if we flashed ICS leaks and flash back from recoveries we are bound to have issues??? Am i wrong, can someone explain??
AFAIK.... paranoid rom is cm9 based which is perfectly safe... so worth taking a shot...
Im on paranoid rom too... working great... going to try the updated version tonight
we are on the same page mate...
i prefer stock + root/cwm.... i really dont bother with custom rom...
and this bug is the biggest troll on gnote
thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.
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thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.
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Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...
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Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...
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I already currently use mxplayer, but I use it to only play .mov videos that I take using my iPad or iPod that I keep on my phone (home movies). I prefer the stock one as it has options for proper resize of videos and looks nice without ads. But thanks anyway for the suggestion and I will checkout papyrus, just hope that at least papyrus allows for proper backup, hope I enjoy PA just as much as you do (you seem like your having the time of your life with it)
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(you seem like your having the time of your life with it)
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Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....
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Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....
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What rom is that?
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What rom is that?
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That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....
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That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....
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It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.
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It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.
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Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc
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Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc
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Yea I guess your right, hard to please everyone. The entire aosp and aokp and others really confuse me but honestly from what I have seen so far, (alot of YouTube demos of roms) PA looks the best and the PAD on it is a big deal but I decided not to flash v0.2 yet and wait for some more updates as people are commenting on issues with battery and something about SD and internal cards being switched or something and other issues. I really want that rom but the issues people comment about are pretty crucial to be fixed especially battery so I guess I'll just wait for a more stable update. Is it wrong to say v1.0 is a real release and 0.2 is still beta??
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Ok so a very interesting thing has happened...
I am giving back two of the phones donated to me:
Xperia Play
Xperia S
now two of my old friends @Achotjan (know him from the X10 days) & @nickholtus (know him from the Arc/Play days) are both interested in these devices...
both are very good devs and have worked on challenging projects in the past and still continue to support devices...
now here is the best part.. both are happy and willing to work on these devices have agreed to swap the devices once they are done with their projects!
thats means with the single device you guys donated to me you will now have 3 devs working on it (initially I worked on them and now these two will take it over from here)...
i just want one promise from you guys @Achotjan & @nickholtus) that both of you will continue to develop for these devices and exchange them mutually!
i personally think this is a really good thing...
if anyone has any objection do let me know.. if everyone is cool with it, i will make arrangements to ship the device to these devs...
i really hope this will boost development for these devices
regards,
DooMLoRD
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DooMLoRD said:
firstly happy new year!!!
in continuation of the above, I have just sent the devices (Xperia S & Play) to the devs via DHL... @nickholtus will be receiving both devices for now and he will send the Xperia S to @Achotjan at the earliest!
I just wanted to make somethings clear... I am not greedy... I don't do this (android development) for the donations... I do it cause I love these phones and want to make sure that people get good stuff... If I was free I could have developed for ALL of these device, but because of personal commitments I cannot...
I really hope that you guys get the best development going and this device forum is again flourishing with development activity...
will keep you posted on when the device reaches @nickholtus
regards,
DooMLoRD
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DooMLoRD said:
great!
now that you guys have received the phones I hope you will continue development for these devices!
finally I am closing this thread...
take care guys and see you around!
warm regards,
Rahul (a.k.a. DooMLoRD)
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Hey guys I know that I havent been around much, been busy with **** loads of stuff..
I had already stopped development on the Play after some issues with some devs here...
anyways, i was recently approached by @nickholtus asking me if i can give my Xperia Play to him for development as he wanted to work on it but didnt have working device...
since the community donated this device to me, I am willing to return it back to the community!
so if you guys can find a willing trusted developer who will work on this device let me know and I will arrange for the device to be sent to him/her..
@nickholtus has already shown interest for the Play.. anyone else you guys considering?
do let me know what you guys think!
i will miss my Xperia Play
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DooMLoRD
Hi,
I am very interested yes, as i am already working On the 3.4 kernel, but without a play it is very hard.
So if you guys agree...
I am interested in it,between i don't have any android right now so would be good to start on something new.
I have two Plays, but I would be willing to give out my Verizon one if a dev is going to work on anything 3.4 kernel or 4.2 - 4.4 related for it, even though it'll be a long shot. It's not tip top shape with older battery, but fully functional.
I simply have been neglicting my Plays since I haven't have time to game much lately.
wow.. that's nice to hear from all you guys.. 2 Xplays for Donation Available.. Al the Devs in the house.. Back to work guys...
before anyone (including me) can make any chance of getting this device, the comminity needs to agree.
as many of you know, I am already working on the 3.4 kernel, and it would be a lot better if i had the device. So it would be great if you guys agree with it
I agree with these devs
1- @nobodyAtall: if he is still intrested in developing 3.4 kernel with zeus board
2- @nickholtus: a great dev from the first days of xperia play. You made first cm10 for us and we cant forget you
3- @Achotjan: as i know he needs a xperia 2011 device but im not sure he is intrested in developing 3.4 kernel too
4- im sure this person wont develope anything for xperia play anymore but i think doomlord himself is the best person but sadly he leaved us because of someone that stoled his sources and ...
+1 for nickholtus, was amazing at old times
Nickholtus!
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+1 for nickholtus
with my respect to the other developers.
My vote goes to to nickholtus
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+1 for nickholtus, he is a great developer.
Thanks DooMLoRD for not forgiving us
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hi, first of all nice to see you again my old friend, i sended a message via google talk , and yes i am interested
and as mentioned on msg i has sent, after fixing hardware releated thinks on kernel and rom (camera gamepad etc...) will send it back too you or if you will permit to another dev who will need it
cheers
Achotjan
@nickholtus as i has say to DoomLord i am interested too, however if the problem you want to resolve is importent you could take it, and we could colaborate as i need to work on play for working 3.4 kernel 4.4 rom and my SDE (curent 4.1.2) then 4.4 and play need somme of work on camera gamepad and buttons are not being working without extra hacks
or same think if you could wait i can take it and after fixing atleast SDE compatibility for play , send it to you, any of this two solutions arre ok for me, but i am insisting on working together on kernel and camera thinks to fix the more quicly and better
cheers
Achotjan
Achotjan said:
@nickholtus as i has say to DoomLord i am interested too, however if the problem you want to resolve is importent you could take it, and we could colaborate as i need to work on play for working 3.4 kernel 4.4 rom and my SDE (curent 4.1.2) then 4.4 and play need somme of work on camera gamepad and buttons are not being working without extra hacks
or same think if you could wait i can take it and after fixing atleast SDE compatibility for play , send it to you, any of this two solutions arre ok for me, but i am insisting on working together on kernel and camera thinks to fix the more quicly and better
cheers
Achotjan
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Hi,
I would love to work together with you.
I don't know what you prefer, but I miss the play if you and the community are OK with it I prefer to get the play that we can work together, but if you and the community want you to get the play, its good.
I think we will have a good team in the future
Nick
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Hi,
I would love to work together with you.
I don't know what you prefer, but I miss the play if you and the community are OK with it I prefer to get the play that we can work together, but if you and the community want you to get the play, its good.
I think we will have a good team in the future
Nick
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well i just seen that you are interested by xperia S also, i dont need xperia S for developping so i sugest that you take the S and work on while i will fix hardware releatd thinks on play than i can send you the play back if you need, i will work on 2011 line and they have many thinks in commun but if you want to work on 2012 device and also 2011 it will be dificult for you to see on wich device how much time you will pas
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Achotjan
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well i just seen that you are interested by xperia S also, i dont need xperia S for developping so i sugest that you take the S and work on while i will fix hardware releatd thinks on play than i can send you the play back if you need, i will work on 2011 line and they have many thinks in commun but if you want to work on 2012 device and also 2011 it will be dificult for you to see on wich device how much time you will pas
cheers
Achotjan
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I think thats a good idea, if i get the s.
I am more interested in the play, but if doom agree, we can do it this way.
nickholtus said:
I think thats a good idea, if i get the s.
I am more interested in the play, but if doom agree, we can do it this way.
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@nickholtus connect to gmail
cheers
Achotjan
Ok so a very interesting thing has happened...
I am giving back two of the phones donated to me:
Xperia Play
Xperia S
now two of my old friends @Achotjan (know him from the X10 days) & @nickholtus (know him from the Arc/Play days) are both interested in these devices...
both are very good devs and have worked on challenging projects in the past and still continue to support devices...
now here is the best part.. both are happy and willing to work on these devices have agreed to swap the devices once they are done with their projects!
thats means with the single device you guys donated to me you will now have 3 devs working on it (initially I worked on them and now these two will take it over from here)...
i just want one promise from you guys @Achotjan & @nickholtus) that both of you will continue to develop for these devices and exchange them mutually!
i personally think this is a really good thing...
if anyone has any objection do let me know.. if everyone is cool with it, i will make arrangements to ship the device to these devs...
i really hope this will boost development for these devices
regards,
DooMLoRD
I dont see how anybody could object. I'm sure both people are very competent developers and I think we can all agree any work for our device would be greatly appreciated. So thank you to all 3 of you.
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There used to be a couple of rom choices for SP, they were very different, and it was easy to pick what you like, now it seems there are 57 varieties of each rom with subtle changes that most people don't notice.
Could everyone not work together instead of continually cooking up variants of stock or CM11?
Is it the lure of the thanks button and donations that make it happen?
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There used to be a couple of rom choices for SP, they were very different, and it was easy to pick what you like, now it seems there are 57 varieties of each rom with subtle changes that most people don't notice.
Could everyone not work together instead of continually cooking up variants of stock or CM11?
Is it the lure of the thanks button and donations that make it happen?
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Some CM's are for LBL and some are for UBL and now some UBL roms are catering for LBL support, also some CM's are a port of CM11s from the oneplusone and not stock CM11. Either way theres no harm in having more ROMs to choose from as long as you can find one thats supported and works for you.
Well at one point it was "too less roms"
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rents1977 said:
There used to be a couple of rom choices for SP, they were very different, and it was easy to pick what you like, now it seems there are 57 varieties of each rom with subtle changes that most people don't notice.
Could everyone not work together instead of continually cooking up variants of stock or CM11?
Is it the lure of the thanks button and donations that make it happen?
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i totally agree with you
developers should start working on stuff like MIUI and Liquid rom instead of just applying some tweaks and themes and calling it a custom rom
i think there are about 6 CMs, 10 stock roms which are all basically the same and all are good for LB or UB and are the same thing just changes in themes and whatnot
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i totally agree with you
developers should start working on stuff like MIUI and Liquid rom instead of just applying some tweaks and themes and calling it a custom rom
i think there are about 6 CMs, 10 stock roms which are all basically the same and all are good for LB or UB and are the same thing just changes in themes and whatnot
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If you want MIUI then work on it, people will work on what they want to not necessarily what another person wants. as ive said the 6 CM versions are not all the same and wont work on all versions of the XPeria SP.
Oblox said:
If you want MIUI then work on it, people will work on what they want to not necessarily what another person wants. as ive said the 6 CM versions are not all the same and wont work on all versions of the XPeria SP.
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keep your opinion to yourself
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keep your opinion to yourself
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If he should keep his opinion to himself,you should do the same.I have been on these forums longer than you,so listen to me carefully.
If you want it simple,use cm11.It is minimalistic,no feature overdose,almost pure 4.4 AOSP.There are official nightlies for UBL,and weekly releases by MrSteve555.
if you want the 4.4 SONY rom,use RepeXpersiS,it is both for LBL and UBL.
If you are a pony lover,install AOKP.If you like paranoid character faces,install PA.If you want everything from CM,AOKP and PA in one package,install PAC.If you are a iPhone lover deep inside,use MIUI.
Every custom ROM has unique features,and by that I mean Mokee OS,Carbon ROM,Omni and etc.
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If he should keep his opinion to himself,you should do the same.I have been on these forums longer than you,so listen to me carefully.
If you want it simple,use cm11.It is minimalistic,no feature overdose,almost pure 4.4 AOSP.There are official nightlies for UBL,and weekly releases by MrSteve555.
if you want the 4.4 SONY rom,use RepeXpersiS,it is both for LBL and UBL.
If you are a pony lover,install AOKP.If you like paranoid character faces,install PA.If you want everything from CM,AOKP and PA in one package,install PAC.If you are a iPhone lover deep inside,use MIUI.
Every custom ROM has unique features,and by that I mean Mokee OS,Carbon ROM,Omni and etc.
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as if i dont really know most of that and my opinion wasnt for him but his opinion was for me and so is yours which is really really useless and a waste of keyboard clicks
being registered here before me doesnt mean you know the forums better than me and im not the one complaining in here im just pointing out facts + im registered since this phone was out anyway
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as if i dont really know most of that and my opinion wasnt for him but his opinion was for me and so is yours which is really really useless and a waste of keyboard clicks
being registered here before me doesnt mean you know the forums better than me and im not the one complaining in here im just pointing out facts + im registered since this phone was out anyway
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Some people cry that they have no ROMs,and you cry that there are too much ROMs.
You are very unique!
So much that I want to cry! ;D
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Some people cry that they have no ROMs,and you cry that there are too much ROMs.
You are very unique!
So much that I want to cry! ;D
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i dont cry about anything and i still you and i have nothing to discuss
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