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7.7 File Structure?

I apologize as I tried to search but I suppose I'm not good at that either.
I am trying to point a podcast program to download to my external sd (microsd) card. I cannot figure out how to find the correct patch to tell the program. The stock file explorer says one thing and I downloaded Astro and it tells me another.
I can copy files to the card (I have the camera saving pics there).
What am I doing wrong that I can't figure the path to a created folder on my micro sd card?
Thanks for any help.

mnt/sdcard/extStorages/SdCard/

Thanks. Something is wrong then. I have tried with BeyondPod and Pocketcast to point them to download to the external sd card with no luck.
Anyone have any luck doing this or suggestions?

I agree.
There is something wrong with the way SD card is handled.
Titanium backup for instance only shows 440Mb capacity, Root explorer shows 1Gb and system settings sees it as 32Gb.
Weird!

Surely someone has tried to do what I am trying. Anyone?

Okay, I did a LOT of reading here and I THINK I know what is going on. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
Apparently, apps cannot write to the external card including aftermarket file explorers. There might be a fix here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454178 but it requires root. I have never rooted anything so I am a bit scared to try.
I hope this may help someone else having a similar issue.

dawgfan said:
Okay, I did a LOT of reading here and I THINK I know what is going on. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
Apparently, apps cannot write to the external card including aftermarket file explorers. There might be a fix here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454178 but it requires root. I have never rooted anything so I am a bit scared to try.
I hope this may help someone else having a similar issue.
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Edit the permission will solve write problem.
Root is easy, just flash the zip file, all done.

Are there any drawbacks to rooting this device?

dawgfan said:
Are there any drawbacks to rooting this device?
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Yes, you won't be able to play DRM protected films (incl. those from the market) and probably Google Music's MP3 store won't work anymore, too. I'm sure there will be more of the like.
I rooted mine, corrected the SD card's permissions, I'm able to set the font size (which breaks TouchWiz, you'll need to have another launcher installed beforehand) and the more.
But: it's not easily revertable, you would have to flash the original firmware as far as I've read.
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sd card issue

I have galaxy note 3,updated to android kitkat everythink gone well,, but after update finished try to backup my apps to 16 GB external sd card but,,not working
I try 10 different backup app none of them working.. is this problem cause by me or kitkat

There are quite a few posts regarding this issue. Installing the SanDisk app the playstore can fix the issue.
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Ryya said:
There are quite a few posts regarding this issue. Installing the SanDisk app the playstore can fix the issue.
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Which SanDisk app are you referring to?

SD card issue
I have the same problem (N9005, 32GB Samsung SD card) - after the update:
- Mybackup Pro is not able to backup on SD card (before it worked well)
- File mamager X-Plore can not create new folders on the external SD card
- similar with the Astro file manager
Only the system-own file manager can create folders. Reading from the card is possible.
After formatting the card: still the same problem.
has anyone additional information?

It's because of the security features of KK... These older apps aren't yet "approved" by Samsung. It has something to do with a simple permission to write to the sd card.
As was stated "Only the system-own file manager can create folders" as this is Samsung approned. Until the Apps are updated and the Samsung seal of approval given these may have trouble...
There is no problem if rooted...

I am truly enjoying KitKat but I wish I could get Titanium to back up to the external sd card.
I guess I will wait like everyone else for the app to get approval from Samsung. Perhaps that will come with the "official' release of KitKat.
Yes, I am rooted and it still cannot back up to the external sd.

Spazmogen said:
I am truly enjoying KitKat but I wish I could get Titanium to back up to the external sd card.
I guess I will wait like everyone else for the app to get approval from Samsung. Perhaps that will come with the "official' release of KitKat.
Yes, I am rooted and it still cannot back up to the external sd.
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Use External SD fix for KitKat - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607215

[Q] Storage Problems but enough space(Dolphin Browser/Titanium Backup)

Hey guys,
i got a Problem with the Touchwiz 4.4 Rom. Titanum Backup can't make backups, because there is not enough spache.
And my Dolphin Browser also can't download files, every File fails. But my Stock Browser is able to downlaod files.
So i also wiped cache and Dalvik, but still the same problem. also i try to uninstall an install Titanium backup, Problem still there.
Cleaning cache from the Play Store also hase no effect.
My Sorage:
System.Rom: 2.85 GB / 916 MB Free
Intern: 9.92 GB/ 2.3 GB free
Ext SD: 63.8 GB/ 13.0 free
So there shoulde be enough storage
Someone know the Problem an can hep me?

Are you aware of the changes made to external SD card access in Kitkat firmwares?
The symptoms you describe sound like this might be the cause. If so it is perfectly 'normal' - in Google's opinion at least. They have blocked apps from writing to the external SD card unless to a very specific authorised location.
Read up online, there is loads of comment about it.
Easy solution is to root and edit a system file which restores full write capabilities. Even easier is to root and use SDFix, a free app in the Play store which does it for you.
If you can't/won't root then you're largely stuck until the app developers amend their apps to accommodate Google's restrictions.

Mr Anderson said:
Are you aware of the changes made to external SD card access in Kitkat firmwares?
The symptoms you describe sound like this might be the cause. If so it is perfectly 'normal' - in Google's opinion at least. They have blocked apps from writing to the external SD card unless to a very specific authorised location.
Read up online, there is loads of comment about it.
Easy solution is to root and edit a system file which restores full write capabilities. Even easier is to root and use SDFix, a free app in the Play store which does it for you.
If you can't/won't root then you're largely stuck until the app developers amend their apps to accommodate Google's restrictions.
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i heard from that, but es file explorer and stock browser is working well. but i will install xposed-module for that, hope i solve that.
Ok i installed that module called 'handleexternalstorge" but the problem still there

If you're using xposed then you're rooted, right?
In that case simply go to the Play Store, install "SDFix", give it root permissions and run it. It will restore full write access to your external SD card.

Mr Anderson said:
If you're using xposed then you're rooted, right?
In that case simply go to the Play Store, install "SDFix", give it root permissions and run it. It will restore full write access to your external SD card.
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i'm rooted, thanks for you answer, but i changed to carbon rom. there is all working fine. but i will reminde that for the next
time when i try touchwiz Rom.
i simply move the titanium backup internal storage and backup data, after that change folder to SD and move content also there.

I am very sorry I upgraded to KitKat

I did the KitKat upgrade to my Note 10.1 a couple of days ago. I'm now sorry I did that. Why? The external SD card changes make some of my apps, paid apps, unusable. One of those is AppMonsterPro. It backs up a copy of an APK just before the Play Store updates an app. This allows me to go back to a previous APK should the new version have bugs or create havoc. Unfortunately under KitKat applications can no longer create folders on external SD cards so AppMonsterPro can't do it's job.
Here's a quote from the developer: "Since Android 4.4 KitKat on dual-storage devices (internal / external) apps can no longer write files to external SD card. Some apps can, but only files, f.e. pics, but no folders. AppMonster must write folders in order to work. As long Google does not make SD card useful again, the only workaround is to use internal storage to store your backups."
Not only can't AppMasterPro create folders, I can't delete the folders that were there before KitKat using any file manager program. I have to take the SD card out and use a PC to delete them.
This is a screwed up mess and I would like to know if there's a method, via Odin, to go back to 4.3. Any help would be appreciated.

TabGuy said:
I did the KitKat upgrade to my Note 10.1 a couple of days ago. I'm now sorry I did that. Why? The external SD card changes make some of my apps, paid apps, unusable. One of those is AppMonsterPro. It backs up a copy of an APK just before the Play Store updates an app. This allows me to go back to a previous APK should the new version have bugs or create havoc. Unfortunately under KitKat applications can no longer create folders on external SD cards so AppMonsterPro can't do it's job.
Here's a quote from the developer: "Since Android 4.4 KitKat on dual-storage devices (internal / external) apps can no longer write files to external SD card. Some apps can, but only files, f.e. pics, but no folders. AppMonster must write folders in order to work. As long Google does not make SD card useful again, the only workaround is to use internal storage to store your backups."
Not only can't AppMasterPro create folders, I can't delete the folders that were there before KitKat using any file manager program. I have to take the SD card out and use a PC to delete them.
This is a screwed up mess and I would like to know if there's a method, via Odin, to go back to 4.3. Any help would be appreciated.
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It is an easy fix if you are willing to root. If not you can Odin flash a 4.3 image.

nrage23 said:
It is an easy fix if you are willing to root. If not you can Odin flash a 4.3 image.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Can you point me to the USA 4.3 image?

TabGuy said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Can you point me to the USA 4.3 image?
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I am uploading MK1 to my Google Drive right now. I will PM you a link in a bit.

TabGuy said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Can you point me to the USA 4.3 image?
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Check Sammobile. They have 4.3 ROMs for our devices.

Are you trying to brick this man's tablet? No don't listen to him if you try and downgrade to an older firmware via odin you will brick your note.
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Kit Kat Upgrade
I just did the upgrade and apps that I had installed on my sd card seem to still be working. Kit Kat version 4.4.2

TabGuy said:
I am very sorry I upgraded to KitKat
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No offense, but if you're on XDA you should have seen this coming - the external SD issues have been discussed for months and there are even current threads in this forum that were started before 4.4 for the N10.1-14 was even released. You may as well suck it up and stay on 4.4. There are significant improvements, not just to the OS but Samsung's apps too. You're going to have to make the leap some time so you might as well just bite the bullet and figure out new ways to do what you used to do. Does your app that's broken support cloud storage? You might be able to have your backups saved in Dropbox.
pierrekid said:
Are you trying to brick this man's tablet? No don't listen to him if you try and downgrade to an older firmware via odin you will brick your note.
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Does anyone know if the bootloader was updated in 4.4? That's what'll brick a device and also trip KNOX. I'm not saying there won't be issues (AKA: I'm not responsible if anyone bricks their device) going from 4.4<>4.3 but it may work if the bootloader's the same.

BarryH_GEG said:
No offense, but if you're on XDA you should have seen this coming - the external SD issues have been discussed for months and there are even current threads in this forum that were started before 4.4 for the N10.1-14 was even released. You may as well suck it up and stay on 4.4. There are significant improvements, not just to the OS but Samsung's apps too. You're going to have to make the leap some time so you might as well just bite the bullet and figure out new ways to do what you used to do. Does your app that's broken support cloud storage? You might be able to have your backups saved in Dropbox.
Does anyone know if the bootloader was updated in 4.4? That's what'll brick a device and also trip KNOX. I'm not saying there won't be issues (AKA: I'm not responsible if anyone bricks their device) going from 4.44.3 but it may work if the bootloader's the same.
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TabGuy said:
I did the KitKat upgrade to my Note 10.1 a couple of days ago. I'm now sorry I did that. Why? The external SD card changes make some of my apps, paid apps, unusable. One of those is AppMonsterPro. It backs up a copy of an APK just before the Play Store updates an app. This allows me to go back to a previous APK should the new version have bugs or create havoc. Unfortunately under KitKat applications can no longer create folders on external SD cards so AppMonsterPro can't do it's job.
Here's a quote from the developer: "Since Android 4.4 KitKat on dual-storage devices (internal / external) apps can no longer write files to external SD card. Some apps can, but only files, f.e. pics, but no folders. AppMonster must write folders in order to work. As long Google does not make SD card useful again, the only workaround is to use internal storage to store your backups."
Not only can't AppMasterPro create folders, I can't delete the folders that were there before KitKat using any file manager program. I have to take the SD card out and use a PC to delete them.
This is a screwed up mess and I would like to know if there's a method, via Odin, to go back to 4.3. Any help would be appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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Here's a potential work-around. Samsung's My Files can create/edit/delete both files and folders on the external SD card. Have your app save the backups to internal storage and then set up a dual-window instance of My Files in multi view and just drag and drop them to a folder(s) you've created on the external SD. It's a pain in the ass but a way to keep more internal memory free.
Those of us with 32GB can probably live with more stuff having to be kept on internal SD but folks with 16GB have a tough road to hoe.

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nrage23 said:
It is an easy fix if you are willing to root. If not you can Odin flash a 4.3 image.
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Ok, help me. If I install the 4.4 USA image I have two questions. Is there a root for it? (If so can you point me to instructions.) What are the steps to negate the external SD card restrictions?

Yh, Google really messed up though they claim it's for security reasons. Apps can create folders but only the app that created the folder has access to the folder (for "security" reasons). Samsung apps have access to all folders, so the suggestion of using my files should work though it's a headache. My advice, root and be don't with it. The fact is going forward this is the new normal, don't mek sense get stuck on 4.3 as app support moves to 4.4 and beyond and you're there holding on like what happened with Mac OS 10.4, but that's just me. Re going back to 4.3 I did a nandroid backup before I went to 4.4 and did something that made me need to go back to 4.3 and redo the update. It went back using the nandroid backup without any issues, everything worked fine and I re updated and all was well too.
Hope you get it sorted.
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You can root your Kit Kat ROM. The procedure is simple and is same as 4.3. Once rooted the fix for your External SD problem is straight forward.
You can follow this or install this app and let it do its thing. You should be good to go.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Does anyone know if the bootloader was updated in 4.4? That's what'll brick a device and also trip KNOX. I'm not saying there won't be issues (AKA: I'm not responsible if anyone bricks their device) going from 4.4<>4.3 but it may work if the bootloader's the same.
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No, its the same bootloader for 4.3 and 4.4

Srikar_NBK said:
You can root your Kit Kat ROM and it should be an easy fix for your problem.
You can follow this or install this app and let it do its thing. You should be good to go.
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No, its the same bootloader for 4.3 and 4.4
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Bootloader is the same so downgrading should not brick your device.

nrage23 said:
Bootloader is the same so downgrading should not brick your device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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pierrekid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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Invalid link

nrage23 said:
Invalid link
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50281174
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BarryH_GEG said:
Here's a potential work-around. Samsung's My Files can create/edit/delete both files and folders on the external SD card. Have your app save the backups to internal storage and then set up a dual-window instance of My Files in multi view and just drag and drop them to a folder(s) you've created on the external SD. It's a pain in the ass but a way to keep more internal memory free.
Those of us with 32GB can probably live with more stuff having to be kept on internal SD but folks with 16GB have a tough road to hoe.
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I also discovered that Samsung's My Files can do the job, wonder if and when second party apps will figure out what Samsung my files is doing to achieve the transfers.

nrage23 said:
It is an easy fix if you are willing to root. If not you can Odin flash a 4.3 image.
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I'm rooted and wondering if this app remedies all the sdcard issues that everyone is talking about on 4.4 kitkat. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
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TiBu won't restore backups

For the last few weeks I am unable to restore backed-up apps. I have tried on three different clean-flashed ROMs. TruePureX, AICP, and PureNexus. When I flash a new ROM, install TiBU (I have pro key), set the backup directory on my sd card, it says there are no apps to restore. It sees there are 61 backup files but I can't batch restore or manually one-by-one. I have also tried deleting the existing backups and creating new ones. Also tried moving the backups to the internal sd card. Anyone else seeing this?

I can't get it to delete system apps anymore. My guess is that its something to do with "systemless" root. Try another app, I found one that in my case. Although it stinks cause TB has ALWAYS been a must have app.

gokart2 said:
I can't get it to delete system apps anymore. My guess is that its something to do with "systemless" root. Try another app, I found one that in my case. Although it stinks cause TB has ALWAYS been a must have app.
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I don't have systemless root. TiBu is vital. This really sucks. I think I'm going to try reformatting my sd card this weekend.. I have a trouble ticket in the with the devs but I have not heard anything from them.

Reformatting the external SD didn't change anything. It was worth a shot. I took screenshots of what I see when I try to restore with TiBu. In the first shot you can see with a manual restore the restore button is missing for a backed up app that is not installed. And the second is from the batch restore that shows no apps to restore, there should be one.

I noticed the same problem across multiple roms as well. I wasn't able to figure out why or how to fix it though.

Any chance you're using a knock-off SD card? I ran into this when I purchased a purported Samsung SD card that was a fake. After two days of odd errors trying to restore a TiBu backup, someone from XDA asked me the same question. There are videos online to find out whether you got a real or dud SD card.
[I was able to return the fake card and complained about the Seller.]

sunNsnow said:
Any chance you're using a knock-off SD card? I ran into this when I purchased a purported Samsung SD card that was a fake. After two days of odd errors trying to restore a TiBu backup, someone from XDA asked me the same question. There are videos online to find out whether you got a real or dud SD card.
[I was able to return the fake card and complained about the Seller.]
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I'm pretty sure it's a real Samsung card. All other backup and restores work. I keep my TWRP backups on it too. Only TiBu has the problem.

If backup and restore works to internal memory, then try another card to eliminate the card being an issue. If backing up to internal memory doesn't work then it is software/app related.
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aybarrap1 said:
If backup and restore works to internal memory, then try another card to eliminate the card being an issue. If backing up to internal memory doesn't work then it is software/app related.
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Yep. I've tried using the internal sd with the same result. I'm pretty sure it's not my external sd because sms backup and restores work and so does TWRP. From what I can tell TiBu sees the backups. It reports there are 61 files. And, since this has started, I've let google restore the apps at setup and then I am able to restore the data with TiBu (not a preferred method).

Can someone tell me what the permissions are on the TitaniumBackup folders and then the backup files within (someone with a working TiBu of course)? I want to check those.

rsmiff said:
Can someone tell me what the permissions are on the TitaniumBackup folders and then the backup files within (someone with a working TiBu of course)? I want to check those.
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IDK on the permissions, checked in Solid Explorer & it doesn't show them where it normally does... I do know that TiBU works though, I restored apps this morning & everything worked seamlessly.
Have you tried enabling installation of apps from unknown sources? Not sure if that'll fix it, but it's worth a shot.

rsmiff said:
Can someone tell me what the permissions are on the TitaniumBackup folders and then the backup files within (someone with a working TiBu of course)? I want to check those.
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Is this what you're looking for? I'm on 5.1.
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TXJim said:
IDK on the permissions, checked in Solid Explorer & it doesn't show them where it normally does... I do know that TiBU works though, I restored apps this morning & everything worked seamlessly.
Have you tried enabling installation of apps from unknown sources? Not sure if that'll fix it, but it's worth a shot.
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Yes. TiBu warns you of that when you open it.

milski65 said:
Is this what you're looking for? I'm on 5.1.
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Yes. Thank you!

So my permissions are different on my external sd card but I can't change them. So I moved my backups to my internal sd card (again), checked permissions, tried different storage (file system & document), and no change. I still haven't heard anything from the TiBu developers. Could it have something to do with the device id? When you flash a new ROM it asks if you want to keep the new id or restore the old one. I always just keep the new one but is that an issue? They think I'm putting it on multiple devices? Stray arrows, I'm just trying to figure it out.

rsmiff said:
So my permissions are different on my external sd card but I can't change them. So I moved my backups to my internal sd card (again), checked permissions, tried different storage (file system & document), and no change. I still haven't heard anything from the TiBu developers. Could it have something to do with the device id? When you flash a new ROM it asks if you want to keep the new id or restore the old one. I always just keep the new one but is that an issue? They think I'm putting it on multiple devices? Stray arrows, I'm just trying to figure it out.
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Can you change permissions on other files and it's just tibu you can't? Or try other file manager? I tried both root explorer and mixplorer and were able to make changes easily. Otherwise I'm guessing it's because of mm vs lp?
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milski65 said:
Can you change permissions on other files and it's just tibu you can't? Or try other file manager? I tried both root explorer and mixplorer and were able to make changes easily. Otherwise I'm guessing it's because of mm vs lp?
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I am using root explorer as well. Weird, I was able to change permissions on the TiBu folder this time. No change in results. I am on MM but it has been working forever. Just in the last 2 or so weeks this started.

rsmiff said:
I am using root explorer as well. Weird, I was able to change permissions on the TiBu folder this time. No change in results. I am on MM but it has been working forever. Just in the last 2 or so weeks this started.
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I've seen your issue somewhere on one of the other threads I'm following. At least I think so. And I believe there was at least a temporary fix. Let me dig a little.
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milski65 said:
I've seen your issue somewhere on one of the other threads I'm following. At least I think so. And I believe there was at least a temporary fix. Let me dig a little.
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I thought it might have been a permissions and/or a non-writable external sd card problem but I was able to change the permissions on the TiBu folder on my card.
Also tried setting selinux to permissive. Nada.

rsmiff said:
I thought it might have been a permissions and/or a non-writable external sd card problem but I was able to change the permissions on the TiBu folder on my card.
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I've looked but can't find it. Not gotten any updates on tibu lately, so that isn't it. Hopefully I'll find post at some point. Other stuff aside, just another reason I'm staying on lp. Not sure if you can revert back and see if things work as expected.
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