I see no new action. Have all the big players left?
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What more do you want besides unlocked bootloader which isn't gonna happen? We got root and quite a few ROMs. I don't even know what's left for the devs to do really after verizon locked down the latest kernels.
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Several ROMs have gotten updates in the past week or so.
I should've been more specific. I actually meant as far as lollipop Roms. Do we really have to wait on Verizon to release until we see a proper ROM?
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warriorpluto said:
I should've been more specific. I actually meant as far as lollipop Roms. Do we really have to wait on Verizon to release until we see a proper ROM?
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Yes and any exploit in Lp if made public before vzw drops Lp means they can patch it to close the exploit to once again mount us.
If your wondering why we have to wait it is because the locked bootloader we have to run official based kernels and roms if we don't then the bootloader chokes and says no. So unless some kind of miracle happens we will never be able to load asop and will be forever tied to carrier releases.
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Yes and any exploit in Lp if made public before vzw drops Lp means they can patch it to close the exploit to once again mount us.
If your wondering why we have to wait it is because the locked bootloader we have to run official based kernels and roms if we don't then the bootloader chokes and says no. So unless some kind of miracle happens we will never be able to load asop and will be forever tied to carrier releases.
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Oh ok thanks for the information. Sheds some light
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i thought we were still waiting for the verizon model to come out before the unlocked bootloader method to be released. how are we able to have CM for ATT? is it this Loki stuff that is making that possible?
Some people bought their phones off contract and have unlocked bootloaders. Also by using a company for a fee can get you an unlock code.
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Sorry for the noob question, but I got my AT&T S4 from Best Buy with my 2 year upgrade contract for $200, and my friend bought his from Best Buy AT&T S4 off the contract except a lot more expensive at $749.99. Is there a difference as I thought they were both i337 models... and all were locked bootloaders...
Not to mention if you use the OUDHS recovery, it's set up to Auto-Loki any ROM which is why it would make a TW-based CM work just fine. That being said, you're going to be dealing with nightlies, so if you're not ready to have a few issues here and there, it's not worth it to you to install it until an official release comes along.
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i thought we were still waiting for the verizon model to come out before the unlocked bootloader method to be released. how are we able to have CM for ATT? is it this Loki stuff that is making that possible?
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The Verizon model came out 3days ago
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Chris13002 said:
Sorry for the noob question, but I got my AT&T S4 from Best Buy with my 2 year upgrade contract for $200, and my friend bought his from Best Buy AT&T S4 off the contract except a lot more expensive at $749.99. Is there a difference as I thought they were both i337 models... and all were locked bootloaders...
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Buying through the major carriers means a subsidized cost. If you're buying off-contract, it means you're the one paying for that subsidization and not the carrier, hence the larger cost. This is exactly why people flock to CL when buying phones off-contract because it's significantly cheaper, It doesn't change anything about the phone's internal hardware, An I337 bought at BB off-contract is still the same physical model as one bought on-contract through an AT&T Store.
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Some people bought their phones off contract and have unlocked bootloaders. Also by using a company for a fee can get you an unlock code.
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Umm. No.
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Some people bought their phones off contract and have unlocked bootloaders. Also by using a company for a fee can get you an unlock code.
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I think you're a bit confused. What you're talking about is for a SIM unlock. Completely unrelated to the bootloader unlock we're mentioning here. As of right now, there is no bootloader unlock available for the AT&T/VZW GS4s
oh i thought it came out on the 30th.. so i guess i gotta search around for the unlock method? not sure i understand this "Loki" stuff
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Some people bought their phones off contract and have unlocked bootloaders. Also by using a company for a fee can get you an unlock code.
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Lmao this made me chuckle
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oh i thought it came out on the 30th.. so i guess i gotta search around for the unlock method? not sure i understand this "Loki" stuff
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Loki is not really an unlock, it's more of a way to circumvent the bootloader since as of right now there's no way to unlock the AT&T variant GS4s. Look at this thread first to download what you'll need for root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
After that, you can visit this thread here and find what you'll need to use a recovery. Here's one that will Auto-Loki your ROMs for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
Or you can run TWRP/CWM and flash this kernel after installing whatever ROM you choose for Loki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292341
With these tools installed, you can now run any ROM of your choice, but try to stick to those more closely based to the stock ROM as you can to keep all of your features working.
Hope that helps.
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Loki is not really an unlock, it's more of a way to circumvent the bootloader since as of right now there's no way to unlock the AT&T variant GS4s. Look at this thread first to download what you'll need for root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
After that, you can visit this thread here and find what you'll need to use a recovery. Here's one that will Auto-Loki your ROMs for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
Or you can run TWRP/CWM and flash this kernel after installing whatever ROM you choose for Loki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292341
With these tools installed, you can now run any ROM of your choice, but try to stick to those more closely based to the stock ROM as you can to keep all of your features working.
Hope that helps.
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so yeah i found that TWRP comes loki'd up so i flashed it but doesnt auto-loki the roms and kernals so i was thinking of flashing that recovery you just linked.. but really all i want is Google Wallet to work.. so from the looks of it all i need is a Deodexed TW Rom and i think i found one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556 after that i just flash the GW fix if i'm not mistaken..
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so yeah i found that TWRP comes loki'd up so i flashed it but doesnt auto-loki the roms and kernals so i was thinking of flashing that recovery you just linked.. but really all i want is Google Wallet to work.. so from the looks of it all i need is a Deodexed TW Rom and i think i found one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556 after that i just flash the GW fix if i'm not mistaken..
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Just keep your eyes on a thread for the GW fix. Should be in the Android Development (not Original) thread. I've skimmed past it several times in the past couple days. And, yes, OUDHS will auto-Loki. TWRP as of right now will not.
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Just keep your eyes on a thread for the GW fix. Should be in the Android Development (not Original) thread. I've skimmed past it several times in the past couple days. And, yes, OUDHS will auto-Loki. TWRP as of right now will not.
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found the fix thread.. seems to be too difficult for me.. hangs at boot every time i flash that zip.. guess i'll just have to wait until someone has a rom with the fix preinstalled
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Lmao this made me chuckle
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So people that have an At&t S4 with the bootloader unlocked FROM At&t can't run Cm10.1? Wow, you should let them know.
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So people that have an At&t S4 with the bootloader unlocked FROM At&t can't run Cm10.1? Wow, you should let them know.
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Not an unlocked bootloader. Bootloader will be locked if u get the s4 from att. U can install twrp using goo manager then flash a loki'd rom/kernel if you wish. Make sure they are loki'd.
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They give you the unlock code if you buy it contract free.
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They give you the unlock code if you buy it contract free.
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Again. No. You are talking about SIM unlock - which has NOTHING to do with this thread. This thread is about BOOTLOADER unlocking.
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Again. No. You are talking about SIM unlock - which has NOTHING to do with this thread. This thread is about BOOTLOADER unlocking.
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I'm sorry if I misunderstood. I was under the impression unlocking via website or at&t imei unlock code would unlock the bootloader. My fault.
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I keep reading about the problems people are having with flashing to MF3 on their rooted S4As but I can't find anything on what you get with MF3. Can someone enlighten me on its new features or post a link that lists what it does?
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sleze said:
I keep reading about the problems people are having with flashing to MF3 on their rooted S4As but I can't find anything on what you get with MF3. Can someone enlighten me on its new features or post a link that lists what it does?
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It's worth it
Brings apps to SD
new camera firmware
much needed fluidity and stableness
various bug and fixes
and a few other features like emergency mode and stuff
sleze said:
I keep reading about the problems people are having with flashing to MF3 on their rooted S4As but I can't find anything on what you get with MF3. Can someone enlighten me on its new features or post a link that lists what it does?
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Just install one of the stockish MF3 based ROMs or International Update based ROMs from the development section and you will have the best of both worlds. You will get any enhancements from the update (if there really is any) and still be able to keep custom recovery and use other ROMs / themes / etc.
If you update to MF3 (OTA) you will lose the ability for custom recoveries and ROMs.
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Just install one of the stockish MF3 based ROMs or International Update based ROMs from the development section and you will have the best of both worlds. You will get any enhancements from the update (if there really is any) and still be able to keep custom recovery and use other ROMs / themes / etc.
If you update to MF3 (OTA) you will lose the ability for custom recoveries and ROMs.
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+1
I don't think the active can run a custom recovery or other roms.
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I was able to install it pretty easily by unfreeze some apps. Reinstalled activeroot afterwards and refroze and am good to go.
I still can't tell any difference and am gonna wait before I upgrade my wife's s4.
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Didn't realize this was for the active. Nit sure what mf3 brings for that variant. XDA should seriously create a sub-forum for this variant. It not the same specs, software, the roms are not cross compatible, whats the point?
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Didn't realize this was for the active. Nit sure what mf3 brings for that variant. XDA should seriously create a sub-forum for this variant. It not the same specs, software, the roms are not cross compatible, whats the point?
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If I remember right the Active comes with mf3. Didn't have anything before that firmware.
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If I remember right the Active comes with mf3. Didn't have anything before that firmware.
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so then they didn't have the MDL stutter/lag we had when the S4 first came out
Well, I upgraded something for 18MB via software update. In the active master thread, it is being referred to as mf3.
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Didn't realize this was for the active. Nit sure what mf3 brings for that variant. XDA should seriously create a sub-forum for this variant. It not the same specs, software, the roms are not cross compatible, whats the point?
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I agree with that Pat MOD???
It clutters thread, not in a negative way against the Active, just too much to watch for when trying to help people. Active owners want it too--
Not sure why it isn't
First off sorry if I have missed something but I have been doing some reading but am slightly confused.
I am looking at a Verizon Note 3 on ebay to keep unlimited data since I just sold my Note 2 which was rooted and running a custom rom which is kinda a must for me. Where I am confused is I see tutorials on how to root the note 3 but I also see a petition to have verizon unlock the bootloader. When I hear locked bootloader I think no rooting and custom roms. So did verizon just recently lock the note 3 down like they did with the note 2 4.3 update? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Basically I just want to be able to root my Note 3 but am not worried about voiding any warranties with verizon since I'm buying it on ebay or something. Feel free to post links to this answer since I'm not opposed to reading just kinda overwhelmed right now.
Thanks for answering my stupid question and have a great weekend!!!
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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ContractorDude said:
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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Ok so it looks like I should be able to root it no problem. Whats big deal with the locked bootloader then?
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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ContractorDude said:
Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Ahhhh ok thank you for the quick response!!!
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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Oh I don't doubt it for a second!! That's why I was confused saw plenty of custom ROMs but didn't really pay attention to tw or not. Not really an issue since I've been having crazy battery draining issues on everything I put 4.4.2 on. Haven't done my research but I'm sure it won't be long till 4.4 tw hits the note 3 anyways.
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Ya, Sprints already getting it.
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What is "locked" on the retail device is the recovery and boot partitions. They are crypto-signed and verified early in the boot sequence. Until the phone is hacked, it means it is impossible to boot a non-Samsung kernel or non-Samsung recovery. Even if you intentionally blow the Warranty flag on the phone, this behavior will not change.
So, while you can root, whatever "ROM" you want to try and use must play nice with a STOCK kernel (& ramdisk). So, no CM for example.
Also - because of "version upgrade locking", if you upgrade a stock kernel (let's say MJ7 -> MJE), you might not be able to use Nandroid restores of previous ROMs you formerly used any longer... depending on how tightly the ROM depends on kernel & ramdisk behaviors.
And one more thing - the Safestrap "psuedo-recovery" actually boots the beginning of a stock ROM (or whatever you have in the "stock slot"). One consequence of this is that you no longer have a separately bootable recovery to fix up mistakes or restore backups from. If you wedge the primary OS somehow, the consequence of that will be a loss of all data on the phone which is not backed up, and a trip to Odin to restore a pure stock firmware ... and starting all over from square 1.
(If you buy a Note 3, you might want to consider a BIG removable SD card - then you will have room for media/backups/etc that is not vulnerable to an Odin flash)
So basically, you have a limited form of rooting available.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49758703&postcount=5
I just updated Kk and want to unlock bootloader plz can anyone help me???
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l2adiant said:
I just updated Kk and want to unlock bootloader plz can anyone help me???
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Not possible. The path was locked up three OTAs ago.
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Not possible. The path was locked up three OTAs ago.
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Any hope for future unlock???
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l2adiant said:
Any hope for future unlock???
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I wouldn't count on it.
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I wouldn't count on it.
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But m waitin cuz i wanna install custom rom
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l2adiant said:
But m waitin cuz i wanna install custom rom
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You'll be waiting a long time.
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You'll be waiting a long time.
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Ahhh the fact is when i bought it was already on 4.1.2 therefore couldn't resist to update as i knew bootloader bug fixed
I hope someone working on it
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There really was only a very short window of time to unlock the bootloader. Unless you got an M after the update that was still on the original firmware. Almost right after Rosenberg published, Verizon sent out their exploit patch... I really wish Verizon would stop doing this stuff. It makes no sense.
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There really was only a very short window of time to unlock the bootloader. Unless you got an M after the update that was still on the original firmware. Almost right after Rosenberg published, Verizon sent out their exploit patch... I really wish Verizon would stop doing this stuff. It makes no sense.
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i totally agree its bs
romma1 said:
There really was only a very short window of time to unlock the bootloader. Unless you got an M after the update that was still on the original firmware. Almost right after Rosenberg published, Verizon sent out their exploit patch... I really wish Verizon would stop doing this stuff. It makes no sense.
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Motorola just released kernel source code, i dont know but can this help?????
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This will not likely help much unlocking the bootloader, but it is nice of them to do so promptly to allow the few devs who build ROMs to continue updating with the new kernel.
It will help with our custom ROMs...
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KitKat troubles
I purchased two used Razr M's for use on Straight Talk. After using Radiocomm, the phones worked great. My wife updated to KitKat and lost her service. I used Radiocomm on hers and have it running again. I upgraded mine also and now we both screwed. Modem Fast Dormancy Monitor Service error pops up all the time. I watched mine screen come on like a reboot three times yesterday. Before I went to bed, I noticed that I had no service. A reboot and service came back. I sent two emails to Motorola and have no reply as of yet. KitKat runs great, but now I just may have to buy two more phones. I don't see any help coming and would advise people to stay away from these phone unless using on Verizon. I didn't know all the trouble a locked bootloader and not being able to root would cause. I read that it had been implied that Android slow release stages were to cause people to buy new phones for updates. So I guess the KitKat issues I'm facing are the same. Encourage me to buy before my wife skins me alive!
There is a fix for the Modem Fast Dormancy bug but it requires root in order to edit the build.prop and disable it.
Without root, it is possible there maybe a way to disable those functions by editing the NVM, but it will require some considerable work to isolate the NV Items and parameters responsible.
After editing the build.prop the phone performs pretty well under KK for GSM/WCDMA service.
I will try and take a look at the NV dumps and see what I can find. No promises.
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My device is rooted. I am not using any ROM. How do I perform a safe and easy system update to 4.4.4 without losing my root?
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Galaxy S5 Verizon
My device is rooted. I am not using any ROM. How do I perform a safe and easy system update to 4.4.4 without losing my root?
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Not sure what you are looking to gain from updating. I've been told adding mods as you like to mock update, as oppose to taking the update and losing root because of the patched exploit is the better way to go.
kprice8 said:
Not sure what you are looking to gain from updating. I've been told adding mods as you like to mock update, as oppose to taking the update and losing root because of the patched exploit is the better way to go.
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I just wanted to update just to update.
xazilizax said:
I just wanted to update just to update.
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If you do, wave good bye to root.
kprice8 said:
If you do, wave good bye to root.
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Could you Odin back to ANCG?
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eragon5779 said:
Could you Odin back to ANCG?
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Nope, locked bootloader prevents changing the kernel, so once you upgrade that's it.
To the OP: 4.4.4 for the Verizon S5 isn't even out yet.
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Nope, locked bootloader prevents changing the kernel, so once you upgrade that's it.
To the OP: 4.4.4 for the Verizon S5 isn't even out yet.
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Okay. Wasn't sure.
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xazilizax said:
I just wanted to update just to update.
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I saw a question just like this about a month ago and one the replies was something like this... " if you people out there want the new stuff just to be running NEW, you shouldn't even be rooted because you don't really understand the value of it. You don't even appreciate it." You should be happy, as it is, with the fact that that there are at least 5 Custom Rom's out there AND all you had to do was sideload an apk. Updates are not necessarily stable OR really add anything...usually just a patch for those that are too eager for "New", so you can't be rooted.
Why do you think there are OTA blockers on these Rom's? For a reason. It's just too easy now. You didn't even have to plug your phone into your PC and execute a console exe like for the S2. Some of us actually had to wait patiently for like a month just hoping for a developer to find an exploit! :SMH:
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