Should I even bother trying to upgrade to MF3? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I keep reading about the problems people are having with flashing to MF3 on their rooted S4As but I can't find anything on what you get with MF3. Can someone enlighten me on its new features or post a link that lists what it does?
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sleze said:
I keep reading about the problems people are having with flashing to MF3 on their rooted S4As but I can't find anything on what you get with MF3. Can someone enlighten me on its new features or post a link that lists what it does?
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It's worth it
Brings apps to SD
new camera firmware
much needed fluidity and stableness
various bug and fixes
and a few other features like emergency mode and stuff

sleze said:
I keep reading about the problems people are having with flashing to MF3 on their rooted S4As but I can't find anything on what you get with MF3. Can someone enlighten me on its new features or post a link that lists what it does?
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Just install one of the stockish MF3 based ROMs or International Update based ROMs from the development section and you will have the best of both worlds. You will get any enhancements from the update (if there really is any) and still be able to keep custom recovery and use other ROMs / themes / etc.
If you update to MF3 (OTA) you will lose the ability for custom recoveries and ROMs.

scott14719 said:
Just install one of the stockish MF3 based ROMs or International Update based ROMs from the development section and you will have the best of both worlds. You will get any enhancements from the update (if there really is any) and still be able to keep custom recovery and use other ROMs / themes / etc.
If you update to MF3 (OTA) you will lose the ability for custom recoveries and ROMs.
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I don't think the active can run a custom recovery or other roms.
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I was able to install it pretty easily by unfreeze some apps. Reinstalled activeroot afterwards and refroze and am good to go.
I still can't tell any difference and am gonna wait before I upgrade my wife's s4.
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Didn't realize this was for the active. Nit sure what mf3 brings for that variant. XDA should seriously create a sub-forum for this variant. It not the same specs, software, the roms are not cross compatible, whats the point?
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polish_pat said:
Didn't realize this was for the active. Nit sure what mf3 brings for that variant. XDA should seriously create a sub-forum for this variant. It not the same specs, software, the roms are not cross compatible, whats the point?
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If I remember right the Active comes with mf3. Didn't have anything before that firmware.

jd1639 said:
If I remember right the Active comes with mf3. Didn't have anything before that firmware.
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so then they didn't have the MDL stutter/lag we had when the S4 first came out

Well, I upgraded something for 18MB via software update. In the active master thread, it is being referred to as mf3.
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polish_pat said:
Didn't realize this was for the active. Nit sure what mf3 brings for that variant. XDA should seriously create a sub-forum for this variant. It not the same specs, software, the roms are not cross compatible, whats the point?
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I agree with that Pat MOD???
It clutters thread, not in a negative way against the Active, just too much to watch for when trying to help people. Active owners want it too--
Not sure why it isn't

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Mdl vs. Mf3???

Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.
Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed
It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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New owner, where to start.

I have been out of the scene for a while. I had a Stellar, and little to no development for that phone. I have looked through the roms available for this phone, but none of them seem like daily drivers. I bought this phone used, and it has the latest update, so what rooting method should I use, and what roms are available if I have the latest updates?
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buzz_kill said:
I have been out of the scene for a while. I had a Stellar, and little to no development for that phone. I have looked through the roms available for this phone, but none of them seem like daily drivers. I bought this phone used, and it has the latest update, so what rooting method should I use, and what roms are available if I have the latest updates?
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Welcome.
There is the root work around for the update in the general forum. Look for my op.
I know that DeadCalm is a good ss rom. Once you are on it you can jump to this & keep your data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246081
A good place to start is by reading these forums. Just by browsing the titles of the threads will tell you :
If you're on the latest update, you can't unlock the bootloader; that there is a new rooting method for the latest update; that most custom ROMs here will not work for you; you'll need to look into SafeStrap and the few older ROMs developed for it; etc.
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netizenmt said:
A good place to start is by reading these forums. Just by browsing the titles of the threads will tell you :
If you're on the latest update, you can't unlock the bootloader; that there is a new rooting method for the latest update; that most custom ROMs here will not work for you; you'll need to look into SafeStrap and the few older ROMs developed for it; etc.
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Wow... I have never heard that put so nicely ... high five....
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What roms are compatible with safestrap?
I tried installing deadcalm, but it fails attempting to install on slot one.

So I have an MF3 S4 and I want to root it

Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Search and read before posting and you'll be rewarded
chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Firstly, start here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2
The fact that your are running the MF3 bootloader will prevent you from flashing any custom kernels due to the blown qFuse. Your only option as of right now is to root your device either using Kingo or jortex's root exploit. From their your need to install Hashcode's Safestrap Recovery and go from there with TouchWiz based ROM's for MF3.
jball said:
Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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chrisj22 said:
So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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Thats correct no custom kernels witch means no overclocking,I think with rom toolbox you can change the voltages.
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just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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chrisj22 said:
just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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There is a lot of information about "LOKI" and "Rooting" in the General, Development, and Original Development sections.
This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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chrisj22 said:
This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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Use the MF3 Odin files, go back to stock and try again. Are you positive you didn't accidentally flash your TouchWiz ROM to the stock slot? Also... was what ROM was it?
I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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chrisj22 said:
I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.
Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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chrisj22 said:
Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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you still have to use loki, sir, you have a lot of reading to do, please check out the stickies in the general forum, before you really wind up with a expensive paper weight.
jd1639 said:
You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.
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Flight5 flashed well and nlKTs kernel didnt w9rk like I figured. It does seem abit faster but as far as benchmark scores its the same. FYI to anyone reading this if you want an S4 and want the non MF3 go to RadioShack and buy your phone. At our store we got 12 of the good S4s in stock
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What ROM is everyone using right now

Just curious to hear what people are currently running on their S4. I just noticed it looks like 4.3 update is finally available for ATT so might just flash that for now.
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Dillsnik said:
Just curious to hear what people are currently running on their S4. I just noticed it looks like 4.3 update is finally available for ATT so might just flash that for now.
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Questions go in the Q&A section.
Using stock 4.3 mk2.
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Is mk2 good? I thought I read something negative about it somewhere... And was that the one where once you update to that you can't revert?
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Dillsnik said:
Is mk2 good? I thought I read something negative about it somewhere... And was that the one where once you update to that you can't revert?
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You can't revert once you're past MF3. MK2 has been working just fine for me, the only negatives are you don't get ROMs or recovery, neither TWRP/CWM or SafeStrap. Also, they removed the network data toggle which does suck.
You mean from the drop down where you can just flick it on/off? I don't use that one too much but I know what you mean...hate when I lose toggles I was using before.
But No ROMs or recovery?? Is that just cause it's pretty new? Seems surprising
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Is mk2 good? I thought I read something negative about it somewhere... And was that the one where once you update to that you can't revert?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498897
I'm using Gummy 4.4.2 and it's working awesome!
Well, this thread is being closed as "everyone" is a subjective term, there are plenty of ROMS for many users that many are using.
This question can only be answered by the individual user? Try all the roms over in the development threads - that is why we are here, and the fun part of the journey.

So what's the deal with the canadian version

So I got the 900W8 canadian version and go tit rooted, now my questions are why do we not have our own forum or do we need it. What can I flash? It's been a while since i've been on samsung. Can I flash other rom but just need my baseband or are there other thing sI should be looking out for. Any help would be great Thanks
bodson66 said:
So I got the 900W8 canadian version and go tit rooted, now my questions are why do we not have our own forum or do we need it. What can I flash? It's been a while since i've been on samsung. Can I flash other rom but just need my baseband or are there other thing sI should be looking out for. Any help would be great Thanks
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bump, ideas anyone
Glad I found this post, I too am curious. I wonder if it will be like when I had the canadian s3 and could just flash the AT&T rooms just fine. Gonna hold of rooting the s5 until this is cleared up
longjohnsteve said:
Glad I found this post, I too am curious. I wonder if it will be like when I had the canadian s3 and could just flash the AT&T rooms just fine. Gonna hold of rooting the s5 until this is cleared up
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Rooting was no issues I used chainfires method and he has a file for our W8 model. It's more the roms I curious about.
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bodson66 said:
Rooting was no issues I used chainfires method and he has a file for our W8 model. It's more the roms I curious about.
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Yeah, thats what I meant. Gonna wait in general until the rom variants are sorted, who knows maybe there will even be a way to root without trip.
Hey guys. I got a notification about a software update for my Rogers G900W8.
Was wondering if I should apply this update and would it affect root?
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I made a post about this the next day the S5 was lunch. Rooting wasn't an issue for me as for flashing ROMS, some are compatible here, just need to ask them first. I'm wondering if we'll get our forum as well.
Tybalt said:
Hey guys. I got a notification about a software update for my Rogers G900W8.
Was wondering if I should apply this update and would it affect root?
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I got my phone 5 days ago had the same update notification, I did the update and then used chainfires root file and AL worked well no issues with that.
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xaznxplaya said:
I made a post about this the next day the S5 was lunch. Rooting wasn't an issue for me as for flashing ROMS, some are compatible here, just need to ask them first. I'm wondering if we'll get our forum as well.
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I would think most roms would work, I'm just wondering about our modem and baseband. Is it just a matter of flashing our modems to ensure lte function.
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bodson66 said:
I would think most roms would work, I'm just wondering about our modem and baseband. Is it just a matter of flashing our modems to ensure lte function.
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Meh, I didn't think about that =/. I guess you get no signals if modem/baseball aren't compatible. Is there a link to get our modem/baseband?
On the Note 3 N900w8 users got lucky, they could downgrade to JellyBean and back to Kitkat without issues, could root (on JB) without tripping KNOX and can pretty much flash ANY international ROM on their device (in this case the N9005 ROMs, N900T ROMs etc) -- IT is possible, now I use this term very very loosely that you *may* be able to flash a whole lot more than w8 only ROMs.

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