Would like some opinions and have a few questions
I currently have an Acer w4 8 inch win 8 tablet and it serves me pretty well, 64GB, gets 8-9 hrs batter life. The screen is only 1280X800
I'm intrigued by some of these new Chinese Win 8 tablets that offer 1080P+ screen resolutions, dual boot Android, are thin and resemble Ipads and ar pretty cheap most being under $200
It is hard to find some real user experience with them though and some real opinions would be great
So far my search has only come up with two possibilities
Onda V891w 64GB
Chuwi V89 64GB
Are their anymore 64GB variants of these types of tablets? I'm familar with Teclast from their portable audio days and like their hardware but can;t seem to find a model they offer with 64Gb of space. My current Acer w4 is 64GB and I have 30GB free with not much installed so I'd probably be pushing it with a 32GB model right off the bat. The main reason I'd switch from my Acer W4 is to play around with dual boot android and to get a high res screen
So some questions
On the dual boot Tablets do any of them have access to the Google play store? I suspect not so can google play be side loaded and actually run official google play apps?
Does Android run well on these?
How is the battery life on these types of tablets? is 7-10 hrs possible?
Does the high res screen bog down the Baytrail processors compared to the lower res screens?
How are people dealing with a 32GB Win tablet? Don't you run out of space quickly?
I see on alot of the youtube videos some of the menu's in Win 8.1 are in Chinese, is this still the case when you change the language in Windows to English?
Beside the two models I have listed are their any other worth considering that offer 64GB space?
Thanks for any feedback, I have used Chinese brands before in the Portable audio world even loading custom roms etc on them and I'm not opposed to some tweaking if need be.
coiloftears said:
Would like some opinions and have a few questions
I currently have an Acer w4 8 inch win 8 tablet and it serves me pretty well, 64GB, gets 8-9 hrs batter life. The screen is only 1280X800
I'm intrigued by some of these new Chinese Win 8 tablets that offer 1080P+ screen resolutions, dual boot Android, are thin and resemble Ipads and ar pretty cheap most being under $200
It is hard to find some real user experience with them though and some real opinions would be great
So far my search has only come up with two possibilities
Onda V891w 64GB
Chuwi V89 64GB
Are their anymore 64GB variants of these types of tablets? I'm familar with Teclast from their portable audio days and like their hardware but can;t seem to find a model they offer with 64Gb of space. My current Acer w4 is 64GB and I have 30GB free with not much installed so I'd probably be pushing it with a 32GB model right off the bat. The main reason I'd switch from my Acer W4 is to play around with dual boot android and to get a high res screen
So some questions
On the dual boot Tablets do any of them have access to the Google play store? I suspect not so can google play be side loaded and actually run official google play apps?
Does Android run well on these?
How is the battery life on these types of tablets? is 7-10 hrs possible?
Does the high res screen bog down the Baytrail processors compared to the lower res screens?
How are people dealing with a 32GB Win tablet? Don't you run out of space quickly?
I see on alot of the youtube videos some of the menu's in Win 8.1 are in Chinese, is this still the case when you change the language in Windows to English?
Beside the two models I have listed are their any other worth considering that offer 64GB space?
Thanks for any feedback, I have used Chinese brands before in the Portable audio world even loading custom roms etc on them and I'm not opposed to some tweaking if need be.
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That Onda w981v is a failure as most Onda products are. Same thing applies for Chuwi. The only brand I would recommend is Teclast. I got X80h because it was cheap. 125$ shipped with DHL. 32gb is not enough for a Dual-OS tablet. Only 6Gb left. I don't have any problems. Did all the updates and works perfectly. It is fast considering that it has a 17$ Intel Atom processor. Battery isn't great, around 3-4 hours. Games work great. Tested Warcraft 3, Mafia, Quake 3 Arena and hadn't any lags. It has Toshiba eMMC which is fast. If that w981v was a quality tablet, it would have been the best deal ever at just 155$. But I am happy with my X80h.
At the moment I don't see myself paying a cent more for any other Dual-OS tablet than X80h. But that's just me. I do not need 64GB eMMC as I have USB port connected all the time and have 40mb/s speeds via 64GB USB stick. It's just a tablet, not a laptop. And the most important thing is that at the moment I believe X80h is one of the most stable chinese tablets on the market. They have all the high quality components. Chuwi, Onda, Pipo etc are far behind Teclast.
99% is in English
If I was you, I would avoid Teclast. Their hardware build quality is sometimes questionable (look at the X10HD) and their version of a dual boot OS has so many issues. (again look at the complaints by users of X10HD). In terms of build quality, PiPO and Onda are 2 of the best. Ondas dual boot system seems to be much more solid. These two manufacturers actually have good quality tablets that feel worth the money. I'm not sure about Chuwi, Ployer or Cube in terms of build quality.
Honestly if you're going to get dual boot, then you should get 64GB minimum. A dual boot OS on 32GB is a joke. You are limited for space on both sides.
If you want to get a good overview of some of the tablets on the market, then follow @Hendrickson who is a XDA member and runs his own Youtube channel reviewing many of the Chinese tablets. Chris does a great job and you will get more insight into what you should be looking out for.
Yea looks like I'll stick with my Acer w4 64GB Win 8.1 tablet until the cherry trail Tablets are out. The only thing of interest in these were the higher res screen and the Dual boot OS but even a 64GB version would leave the win 8.1 side with very little space. I have about 30GB of free space on my Acer W4 64GB tablet. Also seems like none of these are going to get the 9HR battery life of my Acer as well. These are interesting tablets but they don;t seem ready for primetime.
What is Hendrickson's youtube channel URL?
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Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
LaNoire said:
Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
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The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
Fahrertuer said:
The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
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Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
LaNoire said:
Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
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better do some research.....they never delivered on their iconsole.tv and iconsole.tv apps store that
they were going to deliver in Nov./Dec. 2013.........and simply jumped to consoleOS in what June 2014......
said they had been working "in stealth" mode for 18 months yet cannot produce any code / downloadable code for test builds / etc.
their going to produce a special Apps Store with consoleos also...yet they failed to deliver on the iconsole.tv one...!!!
everything is a lot of talk.....NOTHING verifiable by anyone...the press only puts out what their given...as they dump massive amounts of
press releases....oh and their videos and appearances at different Intel developer forums......yet no one in the press has shown a download,
or a test build that they have used to verify any of the claims....the press is only interested in page clicks to generate revenue...no time to verify anything with the tough questions that really matter....all they have shown is the same things that others Asus,Dell, etc. had already shown, before Microsoft and Google shut down dual-booting of Windows with Android......
most likely a scam...
Actually I Like The Dell Venu 8 pro But I Don't Know If It Still 32GB SSD
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Did anyone bought Kingsing W8? I got it few days ago.
This is seams to be cheapest Windows 8.1 tablet.
Basic info:
CPU Intel Baytrail-T Quad Core 1.8GHz
GPU Intel HD Graphic(Gen7)
System Windows 8.1
RAM 1GB DDR3L
Capacity 16GB
Screen 8 inch IPS Capacitive Touch Screen
Resolution 1280*800
It has great hardware for that price. Some would say that 1Gb is not enough but I have this tablet and I can say it is. Tablet is a fast, fluid. 1Gb ram on this optimized OS is enough for a tablet. Google Chrome and Internet Explorer can without any problem show all sites, games can also run smoothly. (Despicable me is working great)
All sites tell that this CPU can run on 1.8ghz but Intel Atom processor Z3735G for me works at 1.33 GHz. Is there any way to enable "turbo" or what?
Video: youtube.com/watch?v=f3BMy2DrLEY
This is my first Windows tablet and it is even faster than Android which I bought for same price- 116$.
I am glad that Windows tablet are becoming cheaper and cheaper and Kingsing W8 is working great for me.
Are there any more users here?
ag008 said:
Did anyone bought Kingsing W8? I got it few days ago.
This is seams to be cheapest Windows 8.1 tablet.
Basic info:
CPU Intel Baytrail-T Quad Core 1.8GHz
GPU Intel HD Graphic(Gen7)
System Windows 8.1
RAM 1GB DDR3L
Capacity 16GB
Screen 8 inch IPS Capacitive Touch Screen
Resolution 1280*800
It has great hardware for that price. Some would say that 1Gb is not enough but I have this tablet and I can say it is. Tablet is a fast, fluid. 1Gb ram on this optimized OS is enough for a tablet. Google Chrome and Internet Explorer can without any problem show all sites, games can also run smoothly. (Despicable me is working great)
All sites tell that this CPU can run on 1.8ghz but Intel Atom processor Z3735G for me works at 1.33 GHz. Is there any way to enable "turbo" or what?
Video: youtube.com/watch?v=f3BMy2DrLEY
This is my first Windows tablet and it is even faster than Android which I bought for same price- 116$.
I am glad that Windows tablet are becoming cheaper and cheaper and Kingsing W8 is working great for me.
Are there any more users here?
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yes, i see gizchina has reported that this is the cheapest windows 8.1 quad core smartphone at $100, i guess it's official price, not for reseller, and also know good news that Kingsing s2 and Kingsing W8 has a giveaway activity from 1949deal. See here: h ttp://goo.gl/RttCym , i guess it has no ram 2gb version now. Maybe in the near future.
This looks like a better deal, not sure if it is a scam, though. At least it is from aliexpress, so you should get your money back.
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/204241...042418613&tracelog=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail
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433Mhz said:
This looks like a better deal, not sure if it is a scam, though. At least it is from aliexpress, so you should get your money back.
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This is the lastest Onda model, I already have one.
Onda V975W thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt/general/onda-v975w-9-7-qhd-intel-z3735d-quad-t2892998
I got one 2GB RAM and 32GB storage from China with US$115.
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please help me. I need drivers for this tablet. you can make a backup of windows 8.1 or backup drivers ?
and write the link to download...
Just ordered one of these out of curiosity, will let you guys know what I think of it once it arrives in about 18 days!
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Best, cheap 8-inch Windows Tablet's the TW801. Hands down.
I picked up the TW801 from MicroCenter open Box for $118. Best $118 I ever spent. It's got a reliable HDMI-out, a Full-sized USB 3.0, 3.5mm headphone jack, and a miniUSB for charging (and you can also use it for data, I tried).
I run Fedora 17 (I'm in a Linux 101 course at my community college) using VMware while running Chrome and Amazon Kindle all at the same time while taking notes in Chrome--and I use a Motorola Lapdock for a second screen. This thing runs absolutely brilliantly. Only downside is the pathetic battery life. But for about $120, it blows the Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo Miix2 8-inch and the rest of the 8-inch tablets (for me) way out of the water. I've been able to play 1080p videos on a 60hz TV with minimal stutter at the beginning and smooth sailing from then on (using YouTube). I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem watching anything else, either. If the Venue 8 Pro can handle games, this one probably can too, though the only thing I tried on it was Second Life, haha, and that ran decent.
If you're in the market for a cheap 8-inch with HDMI AND a full-sized USB 3.0 slot, nothing quite touches this little guy. Here's some specs.
CPU Baytrail-TZ3735D, 1.33GHz Normal (1.8 GHz Turbo Mode)
Microsoft Windows 8.1
Storage
EMMC (it's soldered on, sadly) 32GB, and a MicroSD card slot up to either 64GB of 128GB (the advertising is misleading in store and on the website, and on Amazon... I haven't tested it myself)
RAM
2GB DDR3
Display
8" IPS LCD, 1280x800, 16:10 Widescreen
5-Point Multi-Touch
Cameras
Front (2MP) Back (2MP)
Stereo speakers on one side on the back
They're actually... pretty decent.
Msc
Integrated Microphone, 3.5mm Microphone Jack
No GPS
WiFi (802.11b/g/n), Bluetooth 4.0,
I/O
1 x Micro USB 2.0
1 x USB 3.0
1 x SD (SDHC/SDXC)
1 x Micro HDMI
1 x 3.5mm Audio Headphone/Microphone Combo Jack
Battery
POWER
Battery
1 Cell Lithium Polymer Battery
AC Adapter
10W 5V 2A 100-250V/50-60Hz
My sad Kingsing W8
I've bought this tablet since 2 weeks ago and it was great... But now it won’t turn on anymore. I guess it happened after some auto updates installed. Do you have any idea....? Thanks.
Ryou_Concord said:
I picked up the TW801 from MicroCenter open Box for $118. Best $118 I ever spent. It's got a reliable HDMI-out, a Full-sized USB 3.0, 3.5mm headphone jack, and a miniUSB for charging (and you can also use it for data, I tried).
I run Fedora 17 (I'm in a Linux 101 course at my community college) using VMware while running Chrome and Amazon Kindle all at the same time while taking notes in Chrome--and I use a Motorola Lapdock for a second screen. This thing runs absolutely brilliantly. Only downside is the pathetic battery life. But for about $120, it blows the Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo Miix2 8-inch and the rest of the 8-inch tablets (for me) way out of the water. I've been able to play 1080p videos on a 60hz TV with minimal stutter at the beginning and smooth sailing from then on (using YouTube). I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem watching anything else, either. If the Venue 8 Pro can handle games, this one probably can too, though the only thing I tried on it was Second Life, haha, and that ran decent.
If you're in the market for a cheap 8-inch with HDMI AND a full-sized USB 3.0 slot, nothing quite touches this little guy. Here's some specs.
CPU Baytrail-TZ3735D, 1.33GHz Normal (1.8 GHz Turbo Mode)
Microsoft Windows 8.1
Storage
EMMC (it's soldered on, sadly) 32GB, and a MicroSD card slot up to either 64GB of 128GB (the advertising is misleading in store and on the website, and on Amazon... I haven't tested it myself)
RAM
2GB DDR3
Display
8" IPS LCD, 1280x800, 16:10 Widescreen
5-Point Multi-Touch
Cameras
Front (2MP) Back (2MP)
Stereo speakers on one side on the back
They're actually... pretty decent.
Msc
Integrated Microphone, 3.5mm Microphone Jack
No GPS
WiFi (802.11b/g/n), Bluetooth 4.0,
I/O
1 x Micro USB 2.0
1 x USB 3.0
1 x SD (SDHC/SDXC)
1 x Micro HDMI
1 x 3.5mm Audio Headphone/Microphone Combo Jack
Battery
POWER
Battery
1 Cell Lithium Polymer Battery
AC Adapter
10W 5V 2A 100-250V/50-60Hz
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Lucky you. In europe you can't buy that tablet i found it on internet. And was like woow i want. But imposible to buy here. Yes for like 220euro way to overpriced.
But yeah realy nice tablet for that price witg full usb 3.0
The 5-Point Multi-Touch is a weak point of this tablet.
Well after an interminable wait, largely due to US customs sitting on it for 8 days, the W8 finally arrived last week. After 6 days of using it I am more than impressed. Very responsive, and certainly fast enough for the sort of things you do on tablets. The cameras aren't too impressive but that isn't a priority for me. Using a full windows desktop on an 8" widescreen is a bit of an interesting experience but you can do it. I think I'll pick up stylus as my fingers ain't all that dainty! Battery life isn't stellar but it is no worse than my nook HD+, and the display is a whole lot better than the nook's. Overall worth the $116 and quite pleased with my purchase.
W8 Windows version?
Does anyone know the exact Windows version that these tablets use?
I have one that has a standard Win 8 install but the touch is not operational.
The touch is working as it operates when I did the recovery process, so I am assuming that it just doesnt have the correct version installed
Any ideas?
Onda V820w 8" Windows 8.1 Bay Trail-T Z3735F Quad Core Tablet PC 8 Inch 2GB 32GB WiFi
Hello,
There is a new tablet on the market which I believe is the best deal you can get for a tablet. I was looking for Teclast X98 Air for a long time and I am excited about the dual-OS (android & windows 8.1) but it is way too expensive. ~240$. This instead, offer something almost similar. The only difference is the lower resolution, but that shouldn't be really a problem, it is still good for a 8" tablet: 1280x800 IPS screen (up to 10-finger touch) and 4200mAh battery, but the longevity of the battery compared to X98 should be compensated by the lower 8" display and much lower resolution. The resolution ratio is also 16:10.
The BIGGEST advantage is that this tablet supports SD cards to up to 128GB!! This is the most amazing thing. X98 can barely support 32GB which is close to nothing when you are operating a Windows.
It is on sale on TinyDeal for only 109.99$ : http://www.tinydeal.com/onda-v820w-8-windows-81-z3735f-2gb-16g-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-142442.html
Specs are almost identical to Teclast X80h, the only differences being the 5000mAh for X80h and 128GB SD card support for V820w. and Onda is 10$ cheaper.
Have anyone got this tablet or does anyone know anything about it? How does it perform? Is it worth buying? I want to buy myself a tablet, but I do not want to end up with a junk after a month.
Lated edit: I've just asked TinyDeal support and told me that Teclast is supperior hardware and quality-wise. It just sucks so bad that Teclast X80h supports only 32GB SD cards. It is so frustrating. I would have ordered it right away
Regards
I say go for it! I have the Asus Vivotab Note 8, and I love it! It has similar specs to the one you are looking at. In all honesty I love the 8" form factor. It really is the perfect size.
My tablet: http://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_VivoTab_Note_8_M80TA/
compu829 said:
I say go for it! I have the Asus Vivotab Note 8, and I love it! It has similar specs to the one you are looking at. In all honesty I love the 8" form factor. It really is the perfect size.
My tablet: http://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_VivoTab_Note_8_M80TA/
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This slightly changed by the time I posted this. I talked to TinyDeal and they recommend PIPO W2F instead of Onda and Teclast because it is of better quality. I really am in doubt now. They told me that Onda is the worse of the other 2 companies, so definitely I am not going to go for it just to save 10 bucks.
Is anyone out there? Got my ONDA today it should be perfect for me because i probably won't need to work the processor very hard.
I'm having a problem in windows sd card drivers.
I've managed to update it and it's on the latest version of Windows 10.
The problem is that sometimes the sd card dosn't show up on after boot.
SD STORAGE CLASS CONTROLLER driver seems to be stopping.
I've tried wiping the os this helped until i booted into android then when i booted back to windows the sdcard was missing again.
I've just got a 128gb for the the device and was really hoping to use it.
Looks like I'm sending this back for a refund. Lame
Let's hope my teclast is better.
I'm planning to get this Tablet
Is it worth getting?
http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-announces-shield-tablet-k1-refreshed-model-new-low-price
Smart move I guess. Throw it in a different box and pretend it's new. Sounds like an htc stunt. This makes sense though, considering the battery issue with this model.
http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-...pdate-shield-tablet-k1-original-shield-tablet
But as of now we are confirmed for marshmallow probably after the holidays, which is all I really care about. I gotta have that marshmallow!
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Its technically still one of the best android tablets for CPU and GPU. I would of loved to have seen it with the Tegra X1 but with the tablet market not really strong, even apple is having issues with the market, I can understand not updating it.
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
NoOneLt said:
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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As long as you know how to change the system DPI to 240 then its great, I personally hate the stock DPI that they put on it, with the stock DPI it literally just feels like an enlarged phone. But as soon as you change it to 240 then its great.
NoOneLt said:
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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I use mine for reading books, specifically pdf books of networking materials, and it works really well for that. The screen is amazing for comics. The tablet is a gaming beast and not much can touch its gpu capabilities. Admittedly, I don't do much gaming but I did do a playthrough of ff9 with ePSXe without a HITCH. It's without a doubt a gaming beast when it comes to android devices.
A small comparison lists of the things that are different between Nexus 9 and Shield Tablet:
Nexus 9 vs Shield Tablet
Screen
Nexus: 8.9in, 2048x1536
Shield Tablet: 8in, 1920x1200
Expandable storage
Nexus: None
Shield Tablet: up to 128gb microsd card
Cpu:
Nexus: 64 bit
Shield tablet: 32 bit
GPU:
Same
Ram:
Same
Speakers:
Shield tablet wins hands down
Android updates:
Nexus still has at least 2 more years of android updates
Shield Tablet is getting marshmallow for sure but the next one after is more than likely but not guaranteed.
Fair warning though:
The custom roms on this device have audio issues that happen randomly and it can be annoying. I haven't found a rom that don't have this issue, some are worst than others. There hasn't been a solution to it either from what I've seen.
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The nexus 9 has a better resolution, 2048x1536 vs the 1920x1200 on the shield. The CPUs are a 64bit 2.3Ghz dual core on the N9 and a 32bit 2.2 Quad on the ST. I haven't used an N9 so I can't really add anymore than that.
The shield has an SD card slot, front facing speakers, and wide screen. I read ebooks all the time on the shield and think it's perfect for that. The nexus might get slightly better battery life, but not much more. I was deciding between the two and picked the shield because with the thinner screen I can type very well with my thumbs. My 10.1 tablet is just too big to type on. I imagine with the wider screen the nexus would have that same problem. I would buy the shield for 300 bucks right now if I didn't own one so at 200 it's a steal.
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And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?
Probably when all tablet and smartphone are x64...they, maybe, developera start to create app that take advantage of x64 CPU...
But there is the possibility that they start to use gpgpu even on smartphone and this is an advantage for tegra hardware
Nobody knows...
Yeah it's hard to say. But at 200 bucks the shield blows away anything in its price range. And I much prefer the wide screen and front facing speakers. I spent a lot of time debating the nexus and the shield in my head and I just didn't want a 4:3 and I really wanted an SD card slot.
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NoOneLt said:
And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?
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They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.
nbollinger said:
They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.
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Thats the thing, most of the users of this tablet use it for gaming. Its a shame the new tablet doesn't have 64bit, but at least it is worth the price.
According to this benchmarks seems like if i would not care about Shield PC streaming or exclusive game in pure performance Nexus is doing better? As i see single core almost 2x better and this would be utilized most in applications not optimized for multi-core? And multi-core is around the same level...
But maybe Marshmallow on Shield could bring another results.
I wait for Shield Tablet 2
Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!
cyraxx84 said:
Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!
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That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.
nbollinger said:
That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.
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Nexus 9 put more pressure on GPU with higher screen resolution and use a dual core CPU
Anyone who has the K1 can you answer some questions for me?
Does your bottom speaker move? i noticed earlier that I can make it click by pressing on it lightly :S also is there only 1 speaker behind each grill? the speaker on the top I can feel the vibration of how loud it is but the bottom one I can't.
Think it's faulty but that's why i'm asking.
faulty
On TobyDeals, there is a 30% difference in price between the 2Gb/32Gb version and the 3Gb/128Gb. I presume 2GB is insufficient for today's software, which may explain why the offer is so cheap.
Has anyone successfully used the T510 with 2GB RAM ? Does it move at any spead ? Or, does it just spend time swapping from memory when switching between apps ?
andrewsc said:
On TobyDeals, there is a 30% difference in price between the 2Gb/32Gb version and the 3Gb/128Gb. I presume 2GB is insufficient for today's software, which may explain why the offer is so cheap.
Has anyone successfully used the T510 with 2GB RAM ? Does it move at any spead ? Or, does it just spend time swapping from memory when switching between apps ?
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Just look at the number of people in this forum still using the T580. It is much slower than the T510 and yet it must satisfy the needs of a lot of people. I was quite happy with mine for years. I now have a T510 with 2gb and a T720 with 4gb. I pretty much use them interchangebly and don't notice much difference. But, then again, I don't use a tablet as a "computer". I have 3 desktop computers at home and only use tablets when I'm "on the go". IMHO, this push for more and more RAM is highly overrated.
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still using the T580. It is much slower than the T510 and yet it must satisfy the needs of a lot of people.
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I get your point. My current tablet is even older than the T580, being an S2 SM-T810 first launched 2015. I'm still using it, and it has 3Gb RAM. It's my main connection to the online world, but it's slowly giving up the ghost. Hence my interest in current alternatives.
Generally, I agree that the pursuit of "bigger, better, faster" is approaching a plateau in Android. But 2Gb RAM is not there yet. My concern about RAM comes from professional life as a Java programmer. A decade ago, I was able to run my webserver application in 1.5Gb Ram. Now it runs out of memory at 1.5, even before coming up. It hardly moves at 2Gb. It comes into its own at 3Gb, but works better with 4Gb. In Java, the objects have gotten bigger in 64-bit devices. Overheads (the preambles of each object) have also become bigger. Same thing in JavaScript which runs inside the browsers. As I'm writing this on my desktop, Google Chrome takes up 1Gb, without any other windows open. I know it can easily go up to 2.5Gb - just a browser.
As is the case so often, software uses up all resources available. For an analogy, I'm reminded of Microsoft Word which was running 25 years ago at exactly the same speed as it does now - admittedly, with fewer features, but those extras are seldom used now.
BTW, the specs on Gsm Arena show that the version of T580 which have an S-Pen do get 3Gb ram. This doesn't say much, because people who bought the T580 as a low-cost option most likely didn't buy it with an S-Pen
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_a_10_1_(2016)-8090.php
You pretty much made my point. As I said, I don't use my tablets as computers and most people don't either. If you are using yours as a professional developer, you should be able to afford a higher end tablet than a T510. The T510 is the "budget" tablet in Samsung's line. You can get a T720 with 6gb.
I'm not developing on Android. The webserver I mentioned runs on Linux, and occasionally on Windows 10 when I'm debugging. That's how I know about the increased memory requirements, and I have good reason to extrapolate this to Android.
Before the lockdown, I spent most of my free time at home with the tablet, trying to relax away from work. Facebook, browsing. So the tasks are light, but at 69 I'm sensitive about ergonomics. Eyes, fingers, palms. The triangular tablet-pillow allows me to hold the tablet more easily. So instead of the 380 grams of my Tab S2, I could go with the slighly heavier current tablets from Samsung.
Yup. I use T-510 with 2GB RAM and 32 GB storage and expanded it with micro SD. Even though it is not silky smooth, it is not frustrating. Apps might take a second or two to load but I mostly read books or watch movies. So, that lag does not make a difference for me.
andrewsc said:
On TobyDeals, there is a 30% difference in price between the 2Gb/32Gb version and the 3Gb/128Gb. I presume 2GB is insufficient for today's software, which may explain why the offer is so cheap.
Has anyone successfully used the T510 with 2GB RAM ? Does it move at any spead ? Or, does it just spend time swapping from memory when switching between apps ?
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I just bought the 3gb/128gb model today from costco for $220, they had $80 off the original price. I can honestly say that so far it's been a smooth experience but I've only played with it for about 30 minutes. I got on xda to look for lineage os support, I already want to get it as vanilla as possible
droid4lif3 said:
I just bought the 3gb/128gb model today from costco for $220, they had $80 off the original price. I can honestly say that so far it's been a smooth experience but I've only played with it for about 30 minutes. I got on xda to look for lineage os support, I already want to get it as vanilla as possible
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Mind saying which Costco you got this? I'm northern CA it's $299. I've been waiting for it to go on sale again but so far it hasn't.
jserio said:
Mind saying which Costco you got this? I'm northern CA it's $299. I've been waiting for it to go on sale again but so far it hasn't.
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I'm in SoCal, found it at the Costco in Norwalk, CA but I also went online and the Costco website had the $80 off deal as well, its not live anymore though.