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Hi all,
I just had a live chat with one of the samsung rep and this is the reply i got with regards to the KNOW WARRANTY VOID: 0X1.
Regards,
Riz
Chat people say anything at times. The only way we'd know is when someone sends in a device for repair with the Knox flag tripped.
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riz91060936 said:
Hi all,
I just had a live chat with one of the samsung rep and this is the reply i got with regards to the KNOW WARRANTY VOID: 0X1.
Regards,
Riz
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Sorry I couldn't read the message. I got stuck at the realisation that the browser is IE. It blew my mind. So you're that one person who still uses it!
Joking aside, there have been many cases where the response has been different. You will never know until you actually come across a situation where you have to give the phone in for warranty and get it repaired.
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Sorry I couldn't read the message. I got stuck at the realisation that the browser is IE. It blew my mind. So you're that one person who still uses it!
Joking aside, there have been many cases where the response has been different. You will never know until you actually come across a situation where you have to give the phone in for warranty and get it repaired.
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I did send mine for repair with a tripped Knox counter to get the proximity sensor repaired here in the UK it came back reapired and not a problem. But what i did find was the the service centre flashed my phone with an MGA firmware which is pretty old. So in all fairness i can argue that samsung service centre themselves tripped the counter. Samsung at the moment is a headless chicken when it comes to the knox. So guys sit tight and make sure you have your phone insured just in case
nikzDHD said:
Chat people say anything at times. The only way we'd know is when someone sends in a device for repair with the Knox flag tripped.
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well, at least i have something in black and white should i need to claim the warranty for my device.
kingzain900 said:
Sorry I couldn't read the message. I got stuck at the realisation that the browser is IE. It blew my mind. So you're that one person who still uses it!
Joking aside, there have been many cases where the response has been different. You will never know until you actually come across a situation where you have to give the phone in for warranty and get it repaired.
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i was in the office to IE is what i had to use.
my dear cousin tripped his knox warranty counter few weeks back, while flashing firmwares and rooting them over and over again.
recently his i9505 camera and flash stopped working so he had to send it in to the service centre, with the knox warranty still tripped.
few days later he got a call saying his phone was ready for collection and nothing was mentioned about the knox warranty counter.
he later checked and the counter was still tripped, so samsung did nothing about it and still honor the warranty.
maybe different service centres in different countries have different warranty issues about the knox thingy?
I've been saying this over in the KNOX thread in general. The service centers are simply contracted companies. None of them are officially Samsung.
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Still it is best for someone to try it out instead of relying on the Samsung Live Chat especially when the person "Anthony" does not seems to know is "Knox Flag:0x1" is.
tanjiajun_34 said:
Still it is best for someone to try it out instead of relying on the Samsung Live Chat especially when the person "Anthony" does not seems to know is "Knox Flag:0x1" is.
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Just to inform you guys that regardless of whatever the counter displays,That tripping the Knox counter would result in an permanent efuse on the hardware.And of course not reversible unless you switch the entire board out.Chainfire had given up with anything thats got to do with Knox.
Hi.
I have a fault with my Note 3. It restarts itself, powers off, sometimes cannot power on (freezing when first Samsung logo appears), but time to time it powers on and runs for couple of minutes. I gave it for repairs to Phones4u (UK). They kept my phone for two weeks and I received info it cannot be repaired because it has been rooted and warranty does not cover it.
First things first:
- I have never rooted my phone
- nobody else had my phone in his hands without my attention (before I gave it to Phones4u repair service)
- I was using KNOX on my phone to keep data secured, which is not possible to run KNOX if phone was rooted
- I was updating this phone with original software by auto updates
- I never used something like "Odin"" or "custom Rom"
When the fault first appeared I tried to backup my data (successful). Then I decided to make a hard boot reset. Instead of pressing Power+Home+VolumeUp I pressed by mistake Power+Home+VolumeDown which took me to download mode, as I get known.
I only remember that I have seen on screen few lines which content that info (I rewrite with the help of google search):
Current binary: Official
System Status: Official
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
Then I did a Hard Boot Reset and next day gave it to the service for repair.
Now, when unrepaired phone came back I was able to power it on and it was running for about 3 hours (maybe because it was cold or sth) untill it froze again and I had to take off the battery to restart. I installed app "check root" which told me phone isn't rooted, but I am unable to do any updates as "your device has been modified". I cannot install and run KNOX, because "your device is not authorised to enter KNOX"
Next, download mode tells me:
Current binary: Custom
System Status: Custom
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x1
So, I am sure that somebody from repair team has made some changes in my phone and will not confess he did it. Customer Service is not helping me and I understand they think I am responsible for this fault. I found some help in Phones4u store in Motherwell, where some girl tried to contact repairs and customer services to get some answers fro 40 minutes with no results. Finally she was advised to contact Samsung. She arranged a service for me. I will send my device to Samsung when I receive some secure bag to send my device in.
However, I know they are unable to repair my device if KNOX Warranty Void 0x1. But what I am going to ask them is, can they find in that phone when was changes made and how. That would help me identify who is responsible for that. Do you think Samsung is able to read from my phone that modification time and date and who is guilty?
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I was under the impression that tripping knox would not invalidate your warranty in the uk and that the phone would still be repaired .
I also had my phone returned to me from Samsung, my phone was rooted and i played dumb saying i just downloaded an app from the play store and that's why its rooted. They where not having any of it and said i invalidated my warranty:crying: Seems Samsung are getting tough
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ant78 said:
I also had my phone returned to me from Samsung, my phone was rooted and i played dumb saying i just downloaded an app from the play store and that's why its rooted. They where not having any of it and said i invalidated my warranty:crying: Seems Samsung are getting tough
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Well, that's a bit different. My phone was not rooted when I was sending to the repair, and the repair service was not Samsung official, but some Accredited Repair Centre which cooperate with Phones4U.
I am not playing dumb, I never rooted my phone or neither modified software. Some incompetent guy from this repair centre could do that. I don't know how could that happened, I'm only sure what I didn't do.
Now, is it possible to check inside the phone when was it modified? It was send to repair on 23rd January'14 and returned to me on 5th of February. If during this time phone had some changes in software that means this repair centre is responsible for doing that. Again, is it possible to read from the phone when modifications (rooting, changing software from original to custom) have been done? Can Samsung repairs check that?
Haven't I read this before on Phones4U forum?
Argue with them, don't take no for an answer.
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Yes, you have. I am trying to get any explanation from Phones4U Customer Service in this matter.
I hope Samsungs service is going to help me.
Nobody knows is there any record of date and time of software change in this phone? I want to be sure before I send it to Samsung repairs...
I don't know if they can tell or not but you should insist they can - there should be certain files on there with a given date/time stamp. I can't imagine them implementing something like Knox without a log to track changes. Tell them to check the dates, give them the ones you have up above and insist they check to see when it was modded.
Does the UK have a forum like forums.whirlpool.net.au or maybe www.productreview.com.au? Many companies have reps that browse those sites to address concerns of customers, because they know such sites can have a dramatic effect on sales if the company gets slammed.
Under UK Law, we deal with the retailer not the manufacturer. You have to take the argument up with P4U and not Samsung, as P4U use their own Service Centres. - Find the EU Directive, throw it at them, watch P4U shat themselves. Always go in knowing your rights or they'll pawn you off.
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Under UK Law, we deal with the retailer not the manufacturer. You have to take the argument up with P4U and not Samsung, as P4U use their own Service Centres. - Find the EU Directive, throw it at them, watch P4U shat themselves. Always go in knowing your rights or they'll pawn you off.
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Even in UK we deal with the retailer, Samsung has repaired my friends SM-N9505 who had the same problem (rebooting loop). If I know that I would contact directly Samsung than Phones4U Accredited Repair Centre (they don't know how to fix N9005, so the best way is to put KNOX Warranty Void 0x1 to avoid unwanted job).
By the way, I found the company cooperating with Phones4U, it is Anovo
dvavajiva said:
Hi.
I have a fault with my Note 3. It restarts itself, powers off, sometimes cannot power on (freezing when first Samsung logo appears), but time to time it powers on and runs for couple of minutes. I gave it for repairs to Phones4u (UK). They kept my phone for two weeks and I received info it cannot be repaired because it has been rooted and warranty does not cover it.
First things first:
- I have never rooted my phone
- nobody else had my phone in his hands without my attention (before I gave it to Phones4u repair service)
- I was using KNOX on my phone to keep data secured, which is not possible to run KNOX if phone was rooted
- I was updating this phone with original software by auto updates
- I never used something like "Odin"" or "custom Rom"
When the fault first appeared I tried to backup my data (successful). Then I decided to make a hard boot reset. Instead of pressing Power+Home+VolumeUp I pressed by mistake Power+Home+VolumeDown which took me to download mode, as I get known.
I only remember that I have seen on screen few lines which content that info (I rewrite with the help of google search):
Current binary: Official
System Status: Official
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
Then I did a Hard Boot Reset and next day gave it to the service for repair.
Now, when unrepaired phone came back I was able to power it on and it was running for about 3 hours (maybe because it was cold or sth) untill it froze again and I had to take off the battery to restart. I installed app "check root" which told me phone isn't rooted, but I am unable to do any updates as "your device has been modified". I cannot install and run KNOX, because "your device is not authorised to enter KNOX"
Next, download mode tells me:
Current binary: Custom
System Status: Custom
Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x1
So, I am sure that somebody from repair team has made some changes in my phone and will not confess he did it. Customer Service is not helping me and I understand they think I am responsible for this fault. I found some help in Phones4u store in Motherwell, where some girl tried to contact repairs and customer services to get some answers fro 40 minutes with no results. Finally she was advised to contact Samsung. She arranged a service for me. I will send my device to Samsung when I receive some secure bag to send my device in.
However, I know they are unable to repair my device if KNOX Warranty Void 0x1. But what I am going to ask them is, can they find in that phone when was changes made and how. That would help me identify who is responsible for that. Do you think Samsung is able to read from my phone that modification time and date and who is guilty?
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I face similar problem, no root no odin flash etc.,gave it to authorise service centre for fixing 4g signal issue, they return device after a while saying problem is in your sim but I notice they flash firmware as my own data was not there, after reaching home I found white keyboard while typing which was there in MJ1 firmware but when I gave note 3 for repair was having latest MJ7 firmware with black keyboard,means they downgrade my mobile, I connect to kies says “this device can not update.....” I checked in download mode & found 0x1, lot of arguments with service centre on the issue but they simply said u must have rooted so flag is 0x1,I know service centre guy purposely or by mistake flash older ver which lead to trip flag,finally I sold my mobile in a shop without warranty & bought another.
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I face similar problem, no root no odin flash etc.,gave it to authorise service centre for fixing 4g signal issue, they return device after a while saying problem is in your sim but I notice they flash firmware as my own data was not there, after reaching home I found white keyboard while typing which was there in MJ1 firmware but when I gave note 3 for repair was having latest MJ7 firmware with black keyboard,means they downgrade my mobile, I connect to kies says “this device can not update.....” I checked in download mode & found 0x1, lot of arguments with service centre on the issue but they simply said u must have rooted so flag is 0x1,I know service centre guy purposely or by mistake flash older ver which lead to trip flag,finally I sold my mobile in a shop without warranty & bought another.
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What is wrong with authorise services? Can't they fix newest devices? Maybe they even didn't know about KNOX counter, so they didn't care much what they do.
When I called them, I was told my phone is rooted, but when my phone is back there was a letter inside telling that "the problem is related to excessive pressure or physical impact damage". My phone is perfect, ideal, no even smallest scratch on it. The problem is related to the Anovo Accredited Repair Centre incompetency in my opinion.
So, everyone who owns Note 3, Note 2, S4 or S3 (as far as I know) should be aware of giving to repair other then Samsung official. In all that phones the newest update comes with KNOX Warranty Void, which authorised repair centre simply 0x1s it.
dvavajiva said:
What is wrong with authorise services? Can't they fix newest devices? Maybe they even didn't know about KNOX counter, so they didn't care much what they do.
When I called them, I was told my phone is rooted, but when my phone is back there was a letter inside telling that "the problem is related to excessive pressure or physical impact damage". My phone is perfect, ideal, no even smallest scratch on it. The problem is related to the Anovo Accredited Repair Centre incompetency in my opinion.
So, everyone who owns Note 3, Note 2, S4 or S3 (as far as I know) should be aware of giving to repair other then Samsung official. In all that phones the newest update comes with KNOX Warranty Void, which authorised repair centre simply 0x1s it.
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Scarey stuff indeed! You have rights, find the appropriate government watchdog and send them your story. Don't give up, those bastards shouldn't use the knox flag(which you didn't trip!!!) to wipe their hands clean of any responsibility. If they sold you a dud, they repair it or replace it.
Knox was a monumental **** up on Samsung's part. If I was in your position and they didn't honor my warranty, I would never buy a Samsung phone EVER again!
Hope this gets sorted for you. Good Luck
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denski101 said:
Scarey stuff indeed! You have rights, find the appropriate government watchdog and send them your story. Don't give up, those bastards shouldn't use the knox flag(which you didn't trip!!!) to wipe their hands clean of any responsibility. If they sold you a dud, they repair it or replace it.
Knox was a monumental **** up on Samsung's part. If I was in your position and they didn't honor my warranty, I would never buy a Samsung phone EVER again!
Hope this gets sorted for you. Good Luck
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Actually, I like my Note 3, even it get that problem with restarting and not powering on correctly (that problem might be with hardware, nothing about rooted device). I don't much bother about KNOX counter in this device, as I do not need rooted phone and custom ROM. I only bother about Samsungs authorisation which was given to Anovo, that should be taken back if they do mess instead of proper repair.
I am hoping to find some help in Samsung official repair centre. Will back soon with some news after their feedback.
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Actually, I like my Note 3, even it get that problem with restarting and not powering on correctly (that problem might be with hardware, nothing about rooted device). I don't much bother about KNOX counter in this device, as I do not need rooted phone and custom ROM. I only bother about Samsungs authorisation which was given to Anovo, that should be taken back if they do mess instead of proper repair.
I am hoping to find some help in Samsung official repair centre. Will back soon with some news after their feedback.
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Samsung will be perfect for me if below three will be there.
1.International Warranty
2.World wide firmware Updates (same time for all the country)
3.World wide offline free Navigation
I have to ask OP, is your phone really same phone that you sent to repair? Same IMEI, same S/N?
Is it possible they sent you a replacement or just by mistake mixed two Notes on the table and sent you the wrong one?
Just asking this since years ago my Sony Ericsson got mixed with some others phone, they fixed my phones fault to that other phone and sent it to me lol (And to my phone they fixed that another phone faults and sent it to other side of country.. Still both phones broken but now just sent to wrong owners, lol)
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Even in UK we deal with the retailer, Samsung has repaired my friends SM-N9505 who had the same problem (rebooting loop). If I know that I would contact directly Samsung than Phones4U Accredited Repair Centre (they don't know how to fix N9005, so the best way is to put KNOX Warranty Void 0x1 to avoid unwanted job).
By the way, I found the company cooperating with Phones4U, it is Anovo
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They repaired your friends? Just had mine returned after they refused to repair mine as its rooted
Spere said:
I have to ask OP, is your phone really same phone that you sent to repair? Same IMEI, same S/N?
Is it possible they sent you a replacement or just by mistake mixed two Notes on the table and sent you the wrong one?
Just asking this since years ago my Sony Ericsson got mixed with some others phone, they fixed my phones fault to that other phone and sent it to me lol (And to my phone they fixed that another phone faults and sent it to other side of country.. Still both phones broken but now just sent to wrong owners, lol)
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Yes, the IMEI is the same. I haven't checked with the box (I can't find it at the moment), but I checked with the retailer agreement. I don't know about S/N, I can check it later, but if IMEI is the same that means this is the same phone.
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They repaired your friends? Just had mine returned after they refused to repair mine as its rooted
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Sorry, my mistake. My friends phone was not rooted, the same as mine before they have gone for repair. The difference is who take them for repair: official Samsung repair centre didn't 0x1 friends phone, authorised repair centre did mine.
Hi again,
my phone has been at services twice already.
Firstly was Samsung official repair service, I posted phone in secure bag with a message explaining what happened, but after two weeks I got it back with notice "it is rooted, no warranty repair". They said, could do it for £150!
Secondly I found other official repair service, where you can bring the phone in person. That is Geek Squad in Carphone Warehouse stores, I found one in Glasgow, Scotland. The guys were very pleased to help, and promised that though the warranty is voided they are going to repair it.
They were going to fix it in three days, but unfortunately they couldn't find what cause the phone freeze up. What they done is sent it to their repair centre near Birmingham, but there phone was refused to be repaired because the same reason - warranty void. When I came to collect the phone in Glasgow on Saturday 8th of March I was able to speak to one of this guys and he explained me they can't make phone working properly. Even while talking with him phone was not responding sometimes and we had to take the battery off a few times. He gave the phone to other engineer to look up again. He opened it and stated that he didn't see any damage in the phone and couldn't actually find the fault, it seemed like the phone should work fine, but it is not. They have flashed my phone with Official Samsung's software (they couldn't change the Knox flag to 0x0) and sent me with it to the seller (Phones4U).
I have taken my phone home and the device was working fine for about two hours, it does that when is not so warm. I only wanted to check is it going to freeze up again. So I played some video to heat up the phone and it stopped responding again. I took off battery and left it overnight.
Next day afternoon I pick up my phone, power it on, and I was trying to check is it possible to update the software when it is official one (that might solve the problem). I could only see the message saying your device is modified, cannot update. I checked it in download mode, and the phone was back from official to custom software!
There was no my contribution in it. The phone did it itself.
So I can conclude that if phone is changing software status from official to custom when this fault comes out, it could also change the status of Knox Warranty Void from 0x0 to 0x1. If that is true, I will have a long way to prove that. But now I'm sure that no person is responsible for tripping the flag in this phone, that could be done by the phone itself.
That is very weird! That means Samsung is putting some extra security (KNOX) to their devices which can cause the phone to be out of warranty when some fault like overheating exists!
Any ideas?
Will be in the near future a way to Root The Note 4 WITHOUT Tripping KNOX? I want to root but don't want to loose my warranty.
Is it possible???
i doubt it if so it will be months away but rooting alone does not void Warranty
Uniquebarbee said:
i doubt it if so it will be months away but rooting alone does not void Warranty
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Are you sure about this?
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Are you sure about this?
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From what i've read it's supposed to void your warranty, yet there's people who say they've had warranty repairs carried out with KNOX tripped, so it's pot luck as far as i tell
Have them explain how tripping knox broke your hardware.
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I work for an authorized Samsung Service Center in Canada and we do not check knox fuse when you bring your device in. Just make sure it's unrooted before you bring it in not to make things too obvious
There must be someone like the dev who create towelroot that didnt trip knox for note3 and previous versions.
Am using it on my tab note 2014 edition.
Honestly, atm it's too risky to root with tripping KNOX and then hope that your warranty service won't care about that. It's a 50/50. Waiting for a non-KNOX root.
If you're in the EU with all the many consumer protection laws, I doubt Samsung would get away with not repairing a hardware fault on a device unless they can prove it's because you rooted.
I'd soon be taking them to a small claims court if my now unrooted phone screws up within two years and they refused to repair or replace (I tripped knox)
knox being a hardware fuse is simply a shameful attempt by Samsung to claim you have modified the hardware and therefore voiding your warranty.
Just root if you really want it, like people have said before, most repair centres don't care if the knox fuse had been changed.
Would Knox will be tripped if I install stock firmware through Odin?
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If you're in the EU with all the many consumer protection laws, I doubt Samsung would get away with not repairing a hardware fault on a device unless they can prove it's because you rooted.
I'd soon be taking them to a small claims court if my now unrooted phone screws up within two years and they refused to repair or replace (I tripped knox)
knox being a hardware fuse is simply a shameful attempt by Samsung to claim you have modified the hardware and therefore voiding your warranty.
Just root if you really want it, like people have said before, most repair centres don't care if the knox fuse had been changed.
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Hmm, here in Lithuania, my almost 2 yr old, heavily modified S3's SIM reading died (EFS partition R.I.P) and they said they won't repair it because of obvious reasons. I forgot to unroot though. That's why I'm really scared to touch my N4 yet.
Just make sure you unroot flash a stock firmware if you have to repair your phone for some reason. Who needs KNOX anyways
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Just make sure you unroot flash a stock firmware if you have to repair your phone for some reason. Who needs KNOX anyways
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Don't you think those 'professional' guys check KNOX before doing anything?
Actually if you still want to retain warranty status I would suggest to root after 8-9 months(assuming it's 1yr warranty) after getting the phone. If you can maintain that long without going to service centre, I'm certain that one would not need to visit a service centre after rooting the phone.
That way 8-9 mnths from now more developments would have been released and you'll have more things to try out without the need of going to a service centre.
I'm not sure what professional guys you speak of but the carriers service center does not care when fixing your phone as long as you return to stock firmware before you turn it in. So you could always wait for eternity
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I'm not sure what professional guys you speak of but the carriers service center does not care when fixing your phone as long as you return to stock firmware before you turn it in. So you could always wait for eternity
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By professional I meant carriers service. So basically once my phone, god let that not happen, breaks, I just install non-rooted firmware with ODIN and I'm good to go?
Yes :good:
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Yes :good:
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Well I'ma trust you on this one, let the customization begin!
:good: ^5 welcome to the darkside
I'm not rooted yet but am considering it once a few more weeks pass.
If something's fundamentally wrong with the hardware, it should manifest within a month, I'd like to think. Plus, I've never had a phone need repairs in the past. Which obviously bears no relation to this one going bad or not.
I doubt there'll be a ton of ROM choices for the Duos version but Play Store, Titanium, and Nandroids are nice to have.
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Just got off with samsung support and the agent told me knox being 0x1 won't affect the warranty. I'm probably going to root anyways, but if anyone has any actual experiences with samsung and a 0x1 warranty, would you care to share?
Iffy... to say the least. I would of got what they said in writing lol
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Iffy... to say the least. I would of got what they said in writing lol
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exactly what i did, well not exactly writing, but typing is close enough. Having issues rooting atm, keep getting nand write start failed with chainroots method. I have the SMN910U
If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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Thanks for the insight, I have only had one warranty incident with Samsung. I had to send in my note 3 (same day I got it, so it wasn't even setup). The warranty repair was a breeze though.
just rooted my phone and am noticing some major lag here and there. Anyone else?
Comment for visibility. I need to know this aswell
Fuzzi99 said:
If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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Hey bud, I got my Note 4 from NZ and you think if I root my note 4, if there are problems with it, would the NZ Samsung team fix it?
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Hey bud, I got my Note 4 from NZ and you think if I root my note 4, if there are problems with it, would the NZ Samsung team fix it?
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unless they can prove the software caused an issue, or you just happen to a rep that is a stickler for the rules it should be fine
it depends on which samsung service center.
Depends on a lot of things, but mainly on the rep you get (if he's anal or not) and the kind of problem you wanna fix. If it's a hardware problem 99% of the time a 0x1 wont be a problem. Software may be another story. My advice? if you care about the warranty, don't root. Personally my devices last less than 6 months with me anyway so I root the second I get it (after I check everythings working of course).
It depends on the service centre and the general Samsung policies in each country. In the UK I've had my tablet repaired twice with Knox 0x1. First time the screen completely died, second time I had problems with the back cover and glue behind the screen (from the bad first repair). Both times nobody mentioned anything about Knox. Not to mention the tablet was running a stock 4.4.2 firmware not yet available in the UK.
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my first note 4 was rooted and knox warranty change to 0x1 from 0x0 after some days using 5 or more pixels died and send it to service center and swap my phone with new note 4 by new warranty duration
in this case defeated knox by rooting dose not affect on warranty
iridaki said:
It depends on the service centre and the general Samsung policies in each country. In the UK I've had my tablet repaired twice with Knox 0x1. First time the screen completely died, second time I had problems with the back cover and glue behind the screen (from the bad first repair). Both times nobody mentioned anything about Knox. Not to mention the tablet was running a stock 4.4.2 firmware not yet available in the UK.
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That's good to hear. Did you use an authorised repair centre (and if so, which one?) or send it in to Samsung directly?
When I asked a local repair centre, they were adamant that knox or rooting would void warranty as far as they were concerned. It all seems to be pot luck depending on who you speak to. E.g. here's a response from a Samsung representative on Facebook saying the same thing: https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUK/posts/651768151530771, but some others have also reported they've had success in getting repairs under warranty.
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That's good to hear. Did you use an authorised repair centre (and if so, which one?) or send it in to Samsung directly?
When I asked a local repair centre, they were adamant that knox or rooting would void warranty as far as they were concerned. It all seems to be pot luck depending on who you speak to. E.g. here's a response from a Samsung representative on Facebook saying the same thing: https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUK/posts/651768151530771, but some others have also reported they've had success in getting repairs under warranty.
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I filed a repair request online, Samsung sent a package with prepaid post, put my tablet and charger in and took it to the post office. I believe it went somewhere in England, even though I live in Scotland. So, yeah, I sent it directly to Samsung.
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Hi guys.
I have a stock s7 edge. No root. Everything stock.
Wife broke the note 4 i passed on to her. So decided to buy her a cheap as possible s7 edge.
I bought a faulty s7 edge off ebay with the hope of fixing it.
Hope you guys can help.
Not received the phone yet so hope to get an idea of what i should do when it arrives.
I have rooted and used odin many times in the past.
The sellers description of fault.
It has been rooted and therefore the warranty status is void. Knox counter tripped, Warranty Void: 1 (0x0500) and FRP LOCK: OFF). I believe the encryption was also removed as part of this process.
Shortly after it was rooted (within a day or 2) it started to crash and get stuck in a boot loop. I've had periods of over a week when its been fine and not crashed but then will crash randomly, sometimes when not even being used. It then usually needs a hard reset/factory reset to boot back into the operating system.
Its running a stock Samsung official ROM, stock recovery and has been factory reset. Therefore is currently NOT rooted.
Questions i have,
Is this a fault because of a bad root? Or could it be a hardware fault?
Can knox be reset to 0?
Is frp lock off bad? And important?
Can frp be turned back on?
Thanks in advance guys. This could be an expensive gamble. I paid £257 for it.
Also, if needed. any idea what it would cost to get samsung to fix it?
If on stock firmware it still crashes then it's a faulty EMMC chip. If not then it was a bad root.
Knox cannot be changed to 0, once it's rooted and Knox is changed to 1, there's no way back.
FRP lock off is a good thing, and if it was ON then You would have a small problem(bypassing FRP and changing it to OFF is against XDA rules, so I won't discuss it).
And a it would probably cost like 300 usd to get motherboard replaced by Samsung.
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If on stock firmware it still crashes then it's a faulty EMMC chip. If not then it was a bad root.
Knox cannot be changed to 0, once it's rooted and Knox is changed to 1, there's no way back.
FRP lock off is a good thing, and if it was ON then You would have a small problem(bypassing FRP and changing it to OFF is against XDA rules, so I won't discuss it).
And a it would probably cost like 300 usd to get motherboard replaced by Samsung.
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Thanks for your reply.
Is it possible to test for a faulty EMMC chip?
Familiar with knox, not with FRP. my s7 edge shows it as on.(not intending to change it)
At that price i would buy a smashed edge and change the motherboard myself.
Any suggestions what to try?
What would my chances be of getting samsung to fix it for free?
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
Unlikely. Even in the EU Samsung are now refusing to repair knox tripped phones, even if there is no way the knox trip and root could have had any influence on what needs repairing (for example, a faulty charging port). They could easily claim in this case that the fault occurred as a result of an attempt to root it, regardless of how inaccurate it might be. You might be fortunate and get a repair center and engineer who's having a good day or doesn't bother to check the knox status, but I very much doubt it.
The only way of getting knox tripped phones repaired on warranty now is with certain networks if you're on contract. For example my S7 Edge developed a known screen fault over Christmas (exactly the same issue as this) and I sent it for repair with my network provide who have their own repair service. They couldn't fix it so gave me a new phone despite the knox being tripped which was nice. But if Samsung get involved 99% of the time you're screwed unfortunately.
hoping the android 7 update fixes it.
Not to bothered about knox. otherwise ill try samsung. i read a post about a guy who got samsung to fix his after getting trading standards involved. if needed might give it a try.