Question about Odin - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want to root my N910F but there is one thing i need to know before i do this, i dont want to flash a custom rom, just stock rom with root acces.
I know something about rooting and flashing from my other phones.
What happens if i root my Note4, and samsung rolls out an update.
I know i wont get OTA's, but what happens if i download the update from sammobile, and i flash it via Odin, will i loose my files and settings everytime i get an update ?
Or is there an option to just "Update" the stock rom ?

Racinghart91 said:
I want to root my N910F but there is one thing i need to know before i do this, i dont want to flash a custom rom, just stock rom with root acces.
I know something about rooting and flashing from my other phones.
What happens if i root my Note4, and samsung rolls out an update.
I know i wont get OTA's, but what happens if i download the update from sammobile, and i flash it via Odin, will i loose my files and settings everytime i get an update ?
Or is there an option to just "Update" the stock rom ?
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If you flash a rom from sam mobile via Odin it will do a factory reset on your phone(data not internal).Depending from your options that you enable in Odin it could and could not delete your internal storage...and no in Odin there is not such thing as...update unfortunately something like that is only achievable with a custom recovery and flashing but not all the the time if a rom is very much different from another or their base is different a data wipe is a must.

In my experience flashing a basic update over your current rom will work if it was stock to begin with. Root will be removed when you do this. I would not recommend doing this as you could cause problems down the road. I would really not do it for major OS changes like KK to LP. Whenever I flash, I backup what I need to keep, full wipe with custom recovery, then flash and restore data. As mentioned you can't really update from Odin.

Just root the phone that's the reason u came to XDA if Samsung pushes out update it will be available for download on here
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[Q] Cant flash a stock rom via odin.....

I m trying to flash an official jb russian rom on my note 10.1 but it fail after “nand write starts” in odin.
Im using odin v3.07 and g.note 10.1 is bought in china with chinese rom n8000zccmb1. Reason im flashing different rom is i want to use russian language as primary and playstore. Rooting stuff is not important as well warrant. any helps are welcome...
This is a known problem with the chinese version of the g-note 10.1 - dies horribly around modem.bin part... The only way I've heard someone got another stock rom flashed was using the paid version of mobile ODIN and flashing it using that.
You need to be rooted to use mobile ODIN and have the rom image on your sd card. You can remove root by unticking the everroot options when you flash the new rom. Don't forget to run triangle away to remove custom status and reduce flash count to none. After the flash go to ecovery and wipe data/cche and dalvik cache.
Go to sammobile to find your stock chinese rom as you may need it to get your tab to boot... Good to have stock rom in case you need to restock anyway...
ultramag69 said:
This is a known problem with the chinese version of the g-note 10.1 - dies horribly around modem.bin part... The only way I've heard someone got another stock rom flashed was using the paid version of mobile ODIN and flashing it using that.
You need to be rooted to use mobile ODIN and have the rom image on your sd card. You can remove root by unticking the everroot options when you flash the new rom. Don't forget to run triangle away to remove custom status and reduce flash count to none. After the flash go to ecovery and wipe data/cche and dalvik cache.
Go to sammobile to find your stock chinese rom as you may need it to get your tab to boot... Good to have stock rom in case you need to restock anyway...
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Can you link me to the post.
To root it, is it ok to flash cwm via odin then flash superuser using cwm? coz by what u r saying, i need to get the tab rooted.
Mate I found that post a little while back. You might have luck using search.
From what was said though , there was no problem rooting the rom, just when you flashed an entire rom using ODIN. And always when the modem.bin was being flashed did it error out....
Hope that helps...

[Q] what is currently the best way to root i9505?

Hi, i am in the uk and had my i9505 for around 2 weeks, just wondering the best way to now root and is there anyway which is the safest / recommended?
also, can rom's still be updated afterwards via ota or kies if i root, i know i would have to root again but would my phone still be supported by kies and look for new fw's after rooting?
thanks
james
Personally, I use the pre-rooted stock roms in the Android Development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
Very easy to use, just download and flash via Odin3. There may be easier ways, but for me this is the easiest.
All you need to do then is flash custom recovery and you're done.
Edit: Not sure about Kies, but it's easy enough to flash back to a stock rom and then reset your phone to Official again.
Some custom roms offer OTA updates, but personally, I prefer just staying on a stock rooted and update via Odin as and when needed
Thanks for the reply, if I flash the pre rooted Rom will it wipe my phone or will settings and apps still be the same afterwards?
james_lpool said:
Thanks for the reply, if I flash the pre rooted Rom will it wipe my phone or will settings and apps still be the same afterwards?
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If you install pre rooted rom, all your apps, settings etc will remain. Odin3 doesn't touch the data partition, so you'll still have everything.
I usually clear cache/data after installing a new rom, so I start from fresh, but it's really upto you really
One thing to be aware of though is that flashing a pre-rooted rom will clear your custom recovery, so you'll have to reflash recovery after installing an updated pre-rooted rom

Stock ROM Backup

Hi,
I have rooted and installed TWRP on my 910F Note4 as I was fed up waiting on the lollipop update rolling out. I am currently on 4.4.4 and have made a full backup using TWRP of the stock rom.
My intention was flashing the Cyanogen ROM and using that, but i now see on sammobile there is a stock 5.01 rom available. I have a few questions about this.
1. If I flash to Cyanogen can I still revert back to the stock rom 4.4.4 I have made a backup with? I read somewhere there might be problems as I was on KitKat then moved to lollipop(Cyanogen).
2. Can I flash the stock lollipop rom from within TWRP? Or do you have to do this via ODIN?
3. If I flash the Lollipop stock ROM with Odin I assume I will lose root and TWRP? So this would have to done again?
Guess I am asking what is the best way to proceed?
Thanks again
Paul
pmlfrew said:
Hi,
I have rooted and installed TWRP on my 910F Note4 as I was fed up waiting on the lollipop update rolling out. I am currently on 4.4.4 and have made a full backup using TWRP of the stock rom.
My intention was flashing the Cyanogen ROM and using that, but i now see on sammobile there is a stock 5.01 rom available. I have a few questions about this.
1. If I flash to Cyanogen can I still revert back to the stock rom 4.4.4 I have made a backup with? I read somewhere there might be problems as I was on KitKat then moved to lollipop(Cyanogen).
2. Can I flash the stock lollipop rom from within TWRP? Or do you have to do this via ODIN?
3. If I flash the Lollipop stock ROM with Odin I assume I will lose root and TWRP? So this would have to done again?
Guess I am asking what is the best way to proceed?
Thanks again
Paul
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hi Paul,
1. i beleve to flash CM from kitkat you will need to install the lollipop bootloader first.
2. You have to flash the stock rom via Odin, you will keep all apps settings and files but you will lose root (you u can re root in 3 minutes)
Best thing you could do is flash the stock rom first with odin, see how that feels (IMO its good been using it for months now) and then root it and back it up and flash CM12 (you dont have to flash any boatloader at this point)
grtz
Luc
Racinghart91 said:
hi Paul,
1. i beleve to flash CM from kitkat you will need to install the lollipop bootloader first.
2. You have to flash the stock rom via Odin, you will keep all apps settings and files but you will lose root (you u can re root in 3 minutes)
Best thing you could do is flash the stock rom first with odin, see how that feels (IMO its good been using it for months now) and then root it and back it up and flash CM12 (you dont have to flash any boatloader at this point)
grtz
Luc
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Thanks will flash to lollipop today then....
pmlfrew said:
Thanks will flash to lollipop today then....
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Ok tried to flash Stock O2 UK lollipop ROM via ODIN and got error message on screen. MD5 too big or something. Had to pull battery on phone. Had to then reflash TWRP. Got back into TWRP and tried to do a recovery of the backup I took but phone is stuck at Galaxy note 4 screen. It then shuts down and restarts and gets to the same screen again.
Do I try a different ROM? What can I do?
Thanks
Paul
pmlfrew said:
Ok tried to flash Stock O2 UK lollipop ROM via ODIN and got error message on screen. MD5 too big or something. Had to pull battery on phone. Had to then reflash TWRP. Got back into TWRP and tried to do a recovery of the backup I took but phone is stuck at Galaxy note 4 screen. It then shuts down and restarts and gets to the same screen again.
Do I try a different ROM? What can I do?
Thanks
Paul
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I got it working by flashing the German non branded ROM... Got the error message again but then used a "All samsung recovery.tar" as stated on another post in here and it booted fine eventually... Now on Lollipop. Now time to flash with TWRP.... Again!!!
Please, i need help !
I need help, urgently !
My Note 4 SM-N910C does not work. I can enter the Recovery and the Download Mode. When attempting to install a Custom ROM gives me an error that says I have no data. In the internal memory I have 0mb.
I tried using odin, but I can not .. Salta error.
Someone who can make a backup of your phone (which is factory), leave me a link to download it? So I install the TWRP. Please.
They have another solution?
Thank you.:good:

[Q] coming from s4...little confused, some root questions

im on 4.4.4 NK2. from what I gather, best way to go is root from what im on now and not take the lollipop update. just want to make sure that is correct and that this is correct way....
1. Flash The NCG stock kernel via Odin
2. Reboot & Root using Towelroot
3. Install SuperSU, open the app and allow it to update binaries normally
4. Flash NK2 kernel via ODIN
after that, is the newest lollipop update worth taking? i heard there was problems.
also, i see that there is FlashFire beta....i know its basically mobile odin....is safestarp still necessary to flash roms or can i flash them via FlashFire?
thanks in advance!
djcyph said:
im on 4.4.4 NK2. from what I gather, best way to go is root from what im on now and not take the lollipop update. just want to make sure that is correct and that this is correct way....
1. Flash The NCG stock kernel via Odin
2. Reboot & Root using Towelroot
3. Install SuperSU, open the app and allow it to update binaries normally
4. Flash NK2 kernel via ODIN
after that, is the newest lollipop update worth taking? i heard there was problems.
also, i see that there is FlashFire beta....i know its basically mobile odin....is safestarp still necessary to flash roms or can i flash them via FlashFire?
thanks in advance!
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Looks like you have it right. If your phone is new to you you might consider flashing the full wipe NGC tar file and starting from scratch. Good way to get rid of any junk that might be on your phone.
You can flash with flashfire and go up and down and keep root easily and without using odin. In my opinion, it's still good to have safestrap. It is the only recovery available to you. I still run 4.4.4 on my S5 though I haven't tried the very latest lollipop that came out. I'm fine running RicksRom.

s4 igh337 on Lollipop

so i have s4 igh337 not using in us using in pakistan
its a rooted rom and i used this forum to install it with flashfire i cant find the link but the problem is everything is getting into its internal memory which quite full now although i have installed majority of apps on the external sd card
what i want is a fresh install of a rom without bloatware like not the atnt one but the samsung s4 generic one
i can provide the details if some can just help me a little bit
Is the bootloader on your phone locked? If it is, you can only install ROMs that are based on AT&T ROM.
audit13 said:
Is the bootloader on your phone locked? If it is, you can only install that are based on AT&T ROM.
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i think yes the bootloader is there the atnt logo still shows but i have a rooted custom rom and i am sure its not from atnt looking for futher help if theres a way i can check for sure
What custom rom is on the phone? A locked bootloader can't run aosp or cm roms.
Load the Samsung info app to confirm the bootloader version.
audit13 said:
What custom rom is on the phone? A locked bootloader can't run aosp or cm roms.
Load the Samsung info app to confirm the bootloader version.
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Android version 5.0.1
Baseband I337UCUGOC3
kernel 3.4.0-4408911 [email protected] #1
Build no LRX22C.I337UCUGOC3
SE for android status enforcing sepf_samsung_SGH . . . .. .
SECURE BOOT STATUS TYPE SAMSUNG
MDF V1.0 RELEASE 4
VPN V1.4 RELEASE 4
KNOX 2.3
SDK 5.3.0
PREMIUM SDK 2.3.0
and alot of other things
Bootloader is locked so you'll be limited to using safestrap.
audit13 said:
Bootloader is locked so you'll be limited to using safestrap.
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would give you the thanks if the post actually helped me it didnt sorry bro
No problem. There's a search function on xda too.
y2kyasir said:
so i have s4 igh337 not using in us using in pakistan
its a rooted rom and i used this forum to install it with flashfire i cant find the link but the problem is everything is getting into its internal memory which quite full now although i have installed majority of apps on the external sd card
what i want is a fresh install of a rom without bloatware like not the atnt one but the samsung s4 generic one
i can provide the details if some can just help me a little bit
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i337 came with 16 GB internal memory.
I am using OC3 based custom rom and I have 2.61 GB left in my internal memory.
You phone still might have old photos, music files, old system files there.
You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know.
sway8966 said:
i337 came with 16 GB internal memory.
I am using OC3 based custom rom and I have 2.61 GB left in my internal memory.
You phone still might have old photos, music files, old system files there.
You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know.
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I need everything and ill give you all the details my phone is on on lolipop rooted super user access granted boot loader locked atnt one how soon can you help
y2kyasir said:
I need everything and ill give you all the details my phone is on on lolipop rooted super user access granted boot loader locked atnt one how soon can you help
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According to your spec your bootloader version is OC3. You can come back to OC3 or OC4 after you clean up the phone.
Like I said in my reply made in October, you need to back up every thing from the internal sdcard to the computer first.
Here is the step I mentioned in my previous post.
"You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know. "
You can find the NB1 firmware cooked by muniz_rl at here.
That firmware is rootable with towel root. Get the towel root and root it. After the root, install the flashfire.
I could not find the OC3 bootloader so I suggest you flash the OC4 instead.
Here is the guide to flash OC4. The guide is updated for OK2 but you will be using the OC4 files instead. Just follow the steps.
Here is the OC4 bootlaoder.
Here is the OC4 rooted rom.
Here is the OC4 kernel. (You do not need it in the process, just to keep it handy for the future)
Once you are running OC4, you can install Titanium backup and freeze the bloatware. If you want to install the custom rom do let me know.
sway8966 said:
According to your spec your bootloader version is OC3. You can come back to OC3 or OC4 after you clean up the phone.
Like I said in my reply made in October, you need to back up every thing from the internal sdcard to the computer first.
Here is the step I mentioned in my previous post.
"You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know. "
You can find the NB1 firmware cooked by muniz_rl at here.
That firmware is rootable with towel root. Get the towel root and root it. After the root, install the flashfire.
I could not find the OC3 bootloader so I suggest you flash the OC4 instead.
Here is the guide to flash OC4. The guide is updated for OK2 but you will be using the OC4 files instead. Just follow the steps.
Here is the OC4 bootlaoder.
Here is the OC4 rooted rom.
Here is the OC4 kernel. (You do not need it in the process, just to keep it handy for the future)
Once you are running OC4, you can install Titanium backup and freeze the bloatware. If you want to install the custom rom do let me know.
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Starting from making the backup should i use flashfire or how to backup and put everything on my computer ? I used to do this stuff quite a while before so bit rusty thanks for bearing with me plus what i really want is to unlock the atnt thing so want to put a rom which has no bloatware so have more memory in the internal if its possible good if its not then ill follow these instructions again i cant thank you enough
I am a bit afraid my phone might die lol do you require anyother info i can provide ?
y2kyasir said:
Starting from making the backup should i use flashfire or how to backup and put everything on my computer ? I used to do this stuff quite a while before so bit rusty thanks for bearing with me plus what i really want is to unlock the atnt thing so want to put a rom which has no bloatware so have more memory in the internal if its possible good if its not then ill follow these instructions again i cant thank you enough
I am a bit afraid my phone might die lol do you require anyother info i can provide ?
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Info you gave me is enough.
If you phone die (brick), flashing the NB1 firmware via odin could save your phone.
Flashfire backup would restore the old system so I suggest you should not use the flashfire backup.
The back up is simple. Connect your phone to the computer via usb and copy and paste the data (photo, video, documents) to your computer.
Install the app like Netqin sync to backup your contact list. You can use google contact to backup your contact but it would mix the email and phone number.
Install the app like SMS backup to backup the sms message and phone logs.
Install the app like Titanium backup to backup the apps that you like to keep. (When you restore make sure to restore the app only. )
problem need help again
I was going through the posts and realized how helpful you were to a noob like me who helped me to install a stock custom rom i think i forgot to turn off the updates or something apprently my phone was initially stuck in bootloader the atnt now it wont even show the atnt logo keeping my fingers crossed that i havent screwed my phone
My phone can go in the android system recovery <3e>
LRX22C. I337UCUGOC3
if i am not wrong i cant just install any custom rom since bootloader is still locked i dont know for sure
in the screen below
#manual mode#
--applying multi-csc
applied the csc-code: ATT
Successfully applied multi - CSC
what have i tried uptill now
just wipe data/factory reset
can you help ?
It sounds like you need to flash the OC3 firmware using your computer and a program called ODIN. No, you cannot boot any custom ROM you want. You can only boot custom touchwiz based ROMs because of the bootloader lock.

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