[Q] coming from s4...little confused, some root questions - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

im on 4.4.4 NK2. from what I gather, best way to go is root from what im on now and not take the lollipop update. just want to make sure that is correct and that this is correct way....
1. Flash The NCG stock kernel via Odin
2. Reboot & Root using Towelroot
3. Install SuperSU, open the app and allow it to update binaries normally
4. Flash NK2 kernel via ODIN
after that, is the newest lollipop update worth taking? i heard there was problems.
also, i see that there is FlashFire beta....i know its basically mobile odin....is safestarp still necessary to flash roms or can i flash them via FlashFire?
thanks in advance!

djcyph said:
im on 4.4.4 NK2. from what I gather, best way to go is root from what im on now and not take the lollipop update. just want to make sure that is correct and that this is correct way....
1. Flash The NCG stock kernel via Odin
2. Reboot & Root using Towelroot
3. Install SuperSU, open the app and allow it to update binaries normally
4. Flash NK2 kernel via ODIN
after that, is the newest lollipop update worth taking? i heard there was problems.
also, i see that there is FlashFire beta....i know its basically mobile odin....is safestarp still necessary to flash roms or can i flash them via FlashFire?
thanks in advance!
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Looks like you have it right. If your phone is new to you you might consider flashing the full wipe NGC tar file and starting from scratch. Good way to get rid of any junk that might be on your phone.
You can flash with flashfire and go up and down and keep root easily and without using odin. In my opinion, it's still good to have safestrap. It is the only recovery available to you. I still run 4.4.4 on my S5 though I haven't tried the very latest lollipop that came out. I'm fine running RicksRom.

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Xposed and Safestrap on Lollipop?

I recently upgraded today from 4.4.2 to 5.0 OC4 and kept root using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...0-keeproot-t3068546/post59791648#post59791648
However, I had no Idea it would be so hard (impossible?) to get xposed back. Is there any way in which I could install xposed ARM without having a custom recovery on my verizon G900V running lollipop?
I also read an article on another website that said you can flash safestrap with odin, go into safestrap, install anything necessary, and then reflash current ROM? I am not TOO knowledgable with all of this, however I have found my way around all this enough to ensure myself root and all needed features. Any help or information would be amazing.
Article: http://www.droidforums.net/threads/galaxy-s5-safestrap-after-the-lollipop-update.279867/
I was considering flashing the xposed ARM file with flashfire, however I read someone else was stuck in a bootloop who tried this. Would this not work? Is there any method? I was also looking into flash gordon which lets you flash .zip files without requiring custom recovery. Thanks!
EDIT: Just did some more research and found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/nc1-flasher-odin-to-safestrap-t3082620
It seems as if its possible, however this thread is for the OC3 version, while I flashed the OC4... Anyone out there done anything like this before, or knows how to provide the needed steps? Thanks again.
Go to the xposed thread and read any comment at all. It doesn't work on touchwiz based lollipop architecture. PERIOD. you didn't need a new thread in this forum to learn that...
I see, is there some way that I could downgrade. I've been looking into that for awhile now to go back to my 4.4.2 but there's a ton of methods and I am not sure which is required for my device. I canno't seem to find a specific method for my g900v s5. Thanks for you're reply, and I hope I can downgrade.
synkro1 said:
I see, is there some way that I could downgrade. I've been looking into that for awhile now to go back to my 4.4.2 but there's a ton of methods and I am not sure which is required for my device. I canno't seem to find a specific method for my g900v s5. Thanks for you're reply, and I hope I can downgrade.
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You can use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3088571 it might need some modification for 4.4.2, however.
synkro1 said:
I see, is there some way that I could downgrade.j I've been looking into that for awhile now to go back to my 4.4.2 but there's a ton of methods and I am not sure which is required for my device. I canno't seem to find a specific method for my g900v s5. Thanks for you're reply, and I hope I can downgrade.
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You can go up and down as often as you like. I would Odin the NCG tar from the link below and reroot.
You probably still have safestrap. You could try this first. Go to download mode and Odin the NE9 kernel. When your phone starts booting up you should see the safestrap option to boot into recovery. Boot into recovery, install a rooted NE9 ROM of your choice. Boot back into download mode via safestrap and Odin the NE9 firmware. Let your phone boot all the way up and you should be good to go. Use NCG kernels and firmware-roms if you would rather be on NGC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
If safestrap doesn't show up, Odin the full NCG tar file and reroot your phone.
Thanks so much for your help, the only problem is I never installed safestrap on my phone. So I do not currently have safe strap, or any custom recovery. So i can just use the odin method then, correct?
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synkro1 said:
Thanks so much for your help, the only problem is I never installed safestrap on my phone. So I do not currently have safe strap, or any custom recovery. So i can just use the odin method then, correct?
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Yes, sir. That would be correct. Since you are rooted, there is an app called Flashfire you could use that doesn't even require a computer but if you are familiar with Odin that is a good way to go as well.
I have flashfire installed, in fact I used it to upgrade to lollipop. What settings should I use with flashfire to downgrade to lollipop? Do i have to clear cache or anything? And will the file from the notes #4 from here work?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...0-keeproot-t3068546/post59791648#post59791648
synkro1 said:
I have flashfire installed, in factj I used it to upgrade to lollipop. What settings should I use with flashfire to downgrade to lollipop? Do i have to clear cache or anything? And will the file from the notes #4 from here work?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...0-keeproot-t3068546/post59791648#post59791648
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What ROM do you want to have on your phone?
Just a normal stock 4.4.2 ROM works fine for me.
synkro1 said:
Just a normal stock 4.4.2 ROM works fine for me.
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Download this ROM onto your SD card. I prefer deodex
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793931
Download the NGC retail firmware from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
In Flashfire, select firmware and navigate to your firmware. Just check boot and recovery
Next select zip-ota, navigate to your ROM. Leave auto mount unchecked.
Select firmware again. This time check boot, recovery, modem, and firmware. Flashfire will ask if you want them in separate zips. Click yes
Now select wipe. Check everything but SD card.
Now arrange everything in this order
Wipe
Firmware-boot recovery
Zip-rom
Firmware modem firmware
Firmware-boot recovery
Ever root- inject supersu
Boot normal
That should do it. You should be rooted on 4.4.2
Tulsadiver said:
Download this ROM onto your SD card. I prefer deodex
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793931
Download the NGC retail firmware from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
In Flashfire, select firmware and navigate to your firmware. Just check boot and recovery
Next select zip-ota, navigate to your ROM. Leave auto mount unchecked.
Select firmware again. This time check boot, recovery, modem, and firmware. Flashfire will ask if you want them in separate zips. Click yes
Now select wipe. Check everything but SD card.
Now arrange everything in this order
Wipe
Firmware-boot recovery
Zip-rom
Firmware modem firmware
Firmware-boot recovery
Ever root- inject supersu
Boot normal
That should do it. You should be rooted on 4.4.2
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Ur amazing. I'll try it and let you know. Thanks so much for your help.
Thanks so much! It worked perfectly! I had a problem initially after installing towelroot and xposed and got an error when rebooting the phone called "Process system isn't responding". My phone kept freezing and was super slow because of this. I believe it was due to me restoring contacts from titanium backup. I restored the contacts system app as a whole. I didn't realize that at the time however, and just system restored my phone again, and did everything the same yet didn't restore my contacts, and the message is now gone. I am not running root with xposed on 4.4.2. Your amazing!

Is there any known custom recovery for Verizon G900V S5 BOC4 build?

Just as the title asks, is there any custom recovery available for Verizon S5 running latest rooted, stock ROM? I have been unable to find a straight answer. I know NCG build works with Safestrap, but is there any custom recovery out there for BOC4 build? If not, how have people been installing mods and other zips that require flashing?
MWFD said:
Just as the title asks, is there any custom recovery available for Verizon S5 running latest rooted, stock ROM? I have been unable to find a straight answer. I know NCG build works with Safestrap, but is there any custom recovery out there for BOC4 build? If not, how have people been installing mods and other zips that require flashing?
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No custom recovery yet. Unless you want to venture into this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/qa-multisystem-android-t3101203
Flashfire will flash zips and firmware. And do backups. You can get it at the top of this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
You can use flashfire, which is a very easy ways to install ROMs, or, when you want to install a ROM, just flash a Kitkat kernel in Odin and safestrap will work if you have it installed.
mrjiggywiggy said:
You can use flashfire, which is a very easy ways to install ROMs, or, when you want to install a ROM, just flash a Kitkat kernel in Odin and safestrap will work if you have it installed.
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Can I flash any kit Kat kernel over lollipop BOC4? Or do I have to flash a stock KitKat image too?
MWFD said:
Can I flash any kit Kat kernel over lollipop BOC4? Or do I have to flash a stock KitKat image too?
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If you had safestrap installed you flash a KitKat kernel right over your OC4 to get safestrap to boot up. Before your phone boots all the way up, go into recovery, and flash your ROM. Boot into download mode via safestrap, Odin the corresponding firmware.
I have used flashfire quite a bit to go up and down. The only problem I had is when I was on NGC. Flashfire wouldn't work for me. I'm no expert but this is how I've done it with flashfire.
1. Hit the plus, select firmware, only check boot and recovery.
2. Hit plus, select zip-ota and your ROM ( don't check auto mount)
3. Hit plus, select firmware again, check boot, recovery, modem, firmware. Flashfire will ask if you want them in separate zips, say yes.
4. Hit plus and wipe. Wipe all but SD card).
Arrange like this
1. Wipe
2. Firmware- boot+recovery
3. ROM
4. Firmware- modem+firmware
5. Firmware-boot+recovery
6. EverRoot - inject SuperSU
7. Reboot
I've gone to OA8, OC4, NI2, and NK2 with no problems. I'm getting ready to test NE9 but like I said I had trouble coming from NGC. Try at your own risk.
Edit: Just went from NI2 to NE9 Alliance ROM with no problems

My S5 came with 5.0, I want to root & rom. Do I have the proccess right?

I already tried factory reset via recovery menu. Kept me on 5.0.
1. Use ODIN 3.09 to install a stock 4.42 rom. I downloaded G900VVRU1ANE9_G900VVZW1ANE9_Home_VZW. (Samsung had to be prickly and remove the stock firmware from their site so I'm not positive I got the correct ROM)
2. Use Towelroot to root.
3. Safestrap.
4. Install a ROM.
Finally, I've been outta the game a little while ... Can I run a Kitkat Rom (Carbon) and a Lolipop Rom (Alliance) from the same setup? That is, can I just run safestrap and switch from stock Kitkat to Carbon to Lolipop at a whim, or do I need to do some kernel flashing or other stuff?
EasyToRememberUsername said:
I already tried factory reset via recovery menu. Kept me on 5.0.
1. Use ODIN 3.09 to install a stock 4.42 rom. I downloaded G900VVRU1ANE9_G900VVZW1ANE9_Home_VZW. (Samsung had to be prickly and remove the stock firmware from their site so I'm not positive I got the correct ROM)
2. Use Towelroot to root.
3. Safestrap.
4. Install a ROM.
Finally, I've been outta the game a little while ... Can I run a Kitkat Rom (Carbon) and a Lolipop Rom (Alliance) from the same setup? That is, can I just run safestrap and switch from stock Kitkat to Carbon to Lolipop at a whim, or do I need to do some kernel flashing or other stuff?
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You have to downgrade to NGC, not NE9 to root. Find the full Odin tar here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
Root with towelroot
Download SuperSU from play store. Update the binaries and reboot.
Download and install busybox from play store
Install safestrap.
Tulsadiver said:
You have to downgrade to NGC, not NE9 to root. Find the full Odin tar here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
Root with towelroot
Download SuperSU from play store. Update the binaries and reboot.
Download and install busybox from play store
Install safestrap.
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Thanks.
And that's the "full" NGC right?
EasyToRememberUsername said:
Thanks.
And that's the "full" NGC right?
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That is right. About 1.8 GB
cant use carbon rom or any stock android builds. Must use a T-Wiz rom.

rooted - trying take OTA lollipop dont care about keeping root

i was able to take part one of the update which i think did something to Root....when I open SuperSU it says cant install binary, may need to re-root. I don't want root anymore. I tried second OTA update and fails.
I'm guessing i just have to odin flash a stock img?...my question is, can i do the lollipop one? or do i have to do kitkat and just take the OTA? also, does it matter which version of kitkat or lollipop?
thanks!
download the latest stock rom from somewhere, and flash with odin or flashfire. That should be all you need to do.
thanks...just flashed one of the lollipops and worked great! didnt have to even kept data and custom went away!

Root process for SM-A300FU

I just got an A300FU, and would like to know a few details about how to root it, basically: do I have to root it first, and then update it to Lollipop?
I take it, while on 4.4.4, CF Auto-Root should work just fine, but what after that? Can I use Samsung's software update app to download Lollipop? If not, does it have to be flashed with Odin?
There are numerous ways. If you are rooted, and lose know fuse warranty, then you might as well do a proper job.
The way i prefer to root is through a Customer Recovery. Flashing preferably TWRP, will allow you to flash the latest SuperSU package, or it will ask you to root with any older version from it's ability to detect root access.
I am not aware nor informed of any root method keeping knox 0x0 as i never bothered with it.
PlutoDelic said:
There are numerous ways. If you are rooted, and lose know fuse warranty, then you might as well do a proper job.
The way i prefer to root is through a Customer Recovery. Flashing preferably TWRP, will allow you to flash the latest SuperSU package, or it will ask you to root with any older version from it's ability to detect root access.
I am not aware nor informed of any root method keeping knox 0x0 as i never bothered with it.
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Yeah, I know that, but what I'm asking is, whether to root first, while I'm on KitKat, and then update to Lollipop (and if that's possible after rooting), or root it after updating to Lollipop.
King-V said:
Yeah, I know that, but what I'm asking is, whether to root first, while I'm on KitKat, and then update to Lollipop (and if that's possible after rooting), or root it after updating to Lollipop.
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I suppose you dont give a damn about Knox? Good.
You should flash Lollipop first, as it features a newer Modem and Bootloader, unfortunately we dont know the changes, but they can add to things like better battery life, better signal.
so, download any latest Stock ROM, if you are branded (Carrier) then choose a branded rom as it has a hidden partition which doesnt match with the Unbranded ones. You can tell if it's branded as sites that keep firmware information put the Carrier on brackets, look here i.e for A300FU, just hover over the Region value.
The latest Unbranded firmware is A300FUXXU1BOL3 CYV (Cyprus), there are loads of Branded OL3 as well.
After you do all this, flash TWRP, flash SuperSU. and your set.
PlutoDelic said:
I suppose you dont give a damn about Knox? Good.
You should flash Lollipop first, as it features a newer Modem and Bootloader, unfortunately we dont know the changes, but they can add to things like better battery life, better signal.
so, download any latest Stock ROM, if you are branded (Carrier) then choose a branded rom as it has a hidden partition which doesnt match with the Unbranded ones. You can tell if it's branded as sites that keep firmware information put the Carrier on brackets, look here i.e for A300FU, just hover over the Region value.
The latest Unbranded firmware is A300FUXXU1BOL3 CYV (Cyprus), there are loads of Branded OL3 as well.
After you do all this, flash TWRP, flash SuperSU. and your set.
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Nah, Knox doesn't really matter all that much.
So, I have my A3, currently on 4.4.4. I go download the firmware you linked, flash it using Odin, and then flash TWRP, through Odin as well.
I don't know. I feel like there's something I'm missing... don't I have to flash CF Auto-root before SuperSU?
Also, sorry for bothering, but are there any other place to download the firmwares? The one in the link originally said it would take ~5 hours, but then failed twice already.
King-V said:
Nah, Knox doesn't really matter all that much.
So, I have my A3, currently on 4.4.4. I go download the firmware you linked, flash it using Odin, and then flash TWRP, through Odin as well.
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Exactly, the Stock ROM will update the overall stuff, the TWRP will replace the Recovery. The TWRP is actually optional, it's up to you if you want a custom recovery, personally it makes things easier.
King-V said:
I don't know. I feel like there's something I'm missing... don't I have to flash CF Auto-root before SuperSU?
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CF Auto-Root, it's the only (easy) way to have root without touching the Recovery. If you have TWRP, no need to go for CF Auto-Root, instead you just flash the SuperSU.
Just so you know, CF Auto-Root and SuperSU are made by the same person, and CF Auto-Root includes SuperSU, thats why you dont need it if you have a custom recovery.
King-V said:
Also, sorry for bothering, but are there any other place to download the firmwares? The one in the link originally said it would take ~5 hours, but then failed twice already.
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you can use sammobile, it offers a bit extra speed if you register.
Kingroot works on lolipop (5.02) without triggering knox. I successfully rooted my phone (simple: I downloaded apk, install, root).
Personally, i'd trust rooting only what contains SuperSU.
Kingo has its own manager and desktop software which make it very uncomfortable to use.
Fairly though, it's the only non-knox flipping root method
PlutoDelic said:
There are numerous ways. If you are rooted, and lose know fuse warranty, then you might as well do a proper job.
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I know thread is old, but I am trying to find a walkthrough to help a buddy with his A300FU...
Where do I find an updated guide to root, TWRP and find a basic slim rom?
phaleg said:
I know thread is old, but I am trying to find a walkthrough to help a buddy with his A300FU...
Where do I find an updated guide to root, TWRP and find a basic slim rom?
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The roms are on the Original Dev and Developer boards. That's exactly where you'll find TWRP too (just search A300FU and A3FU on these boards and you'll have a view of your options).
And flash SuperSU in twrp for root.
PlutoDelic said:
The roms are on the Original Dev and Developer boards. That's exactly where you'll find TWRP too (just search A300FU and A3FU on these boards and you'll have a view of your options).
And flash SuperSU in twrp for root.
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Hi!
Would you link me these please?
I find only an older version of these recovery 2.8.x
phaleg said:
Hi!
Would you link me these please?
I find only an older version of these recovery 2.8.x
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...overy-samsung-galaxy-a72015-sm-a700f-t3362283
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...overy-samsung-galaxy-a72015-sm-a700f-t3362283
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Thanks!
So I understand I have to flash that *.tar recovery file using Odin, after rooting, correct?
Would you use Odin to root or Kingo PC version?
phaleg said:
Thanks!
So I understand I have to flash that *.tar recovery file using Odin, after rooting, correct?
Would you use Odin to root or Kingo PC version?
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I dont like/trust any other rooting method except SuperSU.
1. Flash TWRP.tar with odin, make sure you untick auto-reboot on odin, as it will reflash the stock recovery.
2. Flash SuperSU.zip in TWRP.
DONE.
PlutoDelic said:
I dont like/trust any other rooting method except SuperSU.
1. Flash TWRP.tar with odin, make sure you untick auto-reboot on odin, as it will reflash the stock recovery.
2. Flash SuperSU.zip in TWRP.
DONE.
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Can I reboot to system after that?
How can I reboot to recovery with buttons?
When should I flash a basic ROM and gapps?
Which one would you suggest, considering that she does not expect additional weird functions but just a rom (at least 5.1) without bloatware and other heavy stuff to load
ROM and gapps are up to you, there are a few of AOSP options you can choose.
To flash TWRP through odin, use vol down + home + power
To boot to recovery (twrp), vol up + home + power.

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