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[SHW-m110s] Korean Anycall Galaxy S, Thread/FAQ/ReadMe/Discussion/Questions

Hi All,
I'm going to put this upfront, because it's more important than the FAQ. Though there names get repeated a bit in this post, a major credit goes to Koe & Appagom for providing a lot of know-how, testing, information sharing and answers to questions users have posted here. This thread wouldn't be half as valuable without them. They should probably consider getting donate links, as it's the popular thing to do around here anyways, and I'd surely give them a few 원 for some soju or their beverage/food of choice for enhancing my phone experience. If they do decide to do something like that, I'd encourage you to do the same if you've used their methods or have even delayed taking action until you saw and read about their successes, trials & tribulations before proceeding with anything risky.
Next important thing, please don't try to flash i9000 or any other SGS variant's firmware unless you are really prepared to experiment and fix your own problems.
I'm writing this because perhaps it will help us SHW-m110s users spread information and have a point of reference, perhaps even bookmark, to spread information specific to our phone. Many of our questions just get posted in the most recently replied to thread with the word "Korean" in it. Part of my goal will also be to provide an area that Korean users who speak little English will be able to post and have a discussion. I will start that process on my own and enlist help from others I know. Please feel free to contribute in any way you can in any of these areas.
With the Froyo update, I'd like to link to one of the more newsworthy and relevant development's due to increased system functionality we have at our disposal. Koe's guide on HowTo OpenVPN on the SHW-M110S (via StrongVPN and maybe others) can be found here Thanks KOE
Tested on FroYo firmware versions DI29 and SK05
Prerequisites:
rooted (I also recommend SuperUser)
busybox installed
You understand the benefits of being able to connect to a stateside OpenVPN server.
openVPN server account
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By request, other links to other guides or important topics available on XDA (or elsewhere) for the Galaxy S series if you haven't already come across them or just need a point in the right direction will be posted here. So, please let me know if you feel there is some other required reading before the test :
[REF] BIG FAQ! {Flash/Root HOWTO} {ADB&Tutorials} {T&T} {FW-Guide} [MUST READ!]
So, on with the FAQ/guide:
*please note, this is a highly work-in-progress thread and is meant to be supplemental to, not in place of, better, more refined guides featured in the I9000 board. I started to plan this about 24 hours ago but there continue to be questions asked out of place so I'm rushing this a bit
Where can I find ROM "(insert name)"?
How do I update my phone?
Can I put a ROM from the i9000 or another SGS family on this device?
What frequencies does the cellular radio operate on?
Does that make this a world phone?
What limited functionality have users experienced overseas?
How do I use Voice search in Korean?
What else is different from the I9000 and other versions of the SGS?
How do I root my phone?
Where is Samsung Apps/Samsung Apps store?
Are there any other ways to download games in Korea?
Does SK Telecom support OTA updates?
How do I work the DMB tuner?
Why aren't the Secret Codes aren't working?
Can I change the SMS character limit from 80 to 160 characters?
Can we get Social Hub on the phone?
I want the boot animation, do you have it?
This FAQ is terrible, but I have a question...
Where can I find ROM "(insert name)"?
Koe seems to have kept a good list, here.
How do I update my phone?
Download Kies 2.0 here > click on the magnifying glass to the right of "Kies" > click on the white button "Kies 다운로드" > run the file > install > important set your location (left box) to Korea (I assume this to be the default) and your language (right box) can be the language of your choosing.
Can I put a ROM from the i9000 or another SGS family on this device?
This is one of those, 'if you have to ask...stay far far away questions'. Essentially you can come in here if you want a suggestion on what ROMs we might be using at the time, but no, for the love of God don't ask about i9000 or other device ROMs. If you know how to get yourself out of a pickle you wouldn't even need to ask, and if you try and fail you'll be asking us to get you out.
Right now most users are content with z4mod, though there are some Korean ROMs that will be brought up from time to time.
What frequencies does the cellular radio operate on?
*To be updated*
Does that make this a world phone?
XDA users have reported some phone functionality in Russia and the Philippines. And know specific carriers in the US that the phone may/may not be compatible with, and if this will work for users in the EU. It seems that most people, if they have the right APN information, have gotten working this in a variety of countries though there will be at least some U.S. carriers that aren't available and potentially other non-standard frequency users. Still, if I were living in another country I'd probably only get this from a distributor who I'd be able to get a refund from if I couldn't get it working - anything else and you're doing so at your own risk.
What limited functionality have users experienced overseas?
User ulrauko has reported no data functionality on his device in Russia.
It is recommended to work with a local carrier to get APN information to enter into your settings in order to maximize phone functionality. Some users may continue to have 3G problems after this, it might be possible to check setting "data roaming" in wireless & network > Mobile networks, but it'd be wise to check with your carrier to see what happens if you end up roaming onto another carriers towers.
Users precious_mew has reported that he can't use MMS due to his carrier while chester_go has reported an inability for his phone to see his phone number requiring him to edit his phone number (to any number, not necessarily his actual number) to send SMS without any problems receiving SMS. Since then, Chester has been able to "program" his SIM by using the following method:
-Removing the SIM card
-Placing it in another phone that has the "My Number" option (I used an iPhone, heard that older Sony Ericssons work too.)
-Entering my own number in international format (+63917~) (Prior to this, "Unknown" was also shown in the iPhone.)
-Inserting the SIM back to the M110s.
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How do I use Voice search in Korean?
Voice Search can be changed in settings>voice & input>voice recognition settings>lanugage...
What else is different from the I9000 and other versions of the SGS?
For now, I assume that we have different cellular radios. Also, we have a T-DMB tuner. We were given different stock software, originally missing Swype and a few other things, since then we have received Swpye through a firmware upgrade. We do utilize different firmware for our SHW-m110s than the typical international versions.
How do I root my phone?
Appagom's Evolving, and well well-supported, Post.
Where is Samsung Apps/Samsung Apps store?
The Samsung Apps store in Korea is a subset of SK Telecom's store, I highly doubt this would be accessible overseas as I think it's SIM card dependent. There you will find a full version of Asphalt for a free download. Please note, some games, even western games such as Farm Frenzy only have Korean language menu, while Asphalt has both English and Korean. I'd also guess there is no 24 hour return policy, but any confirmation would be great, and I have to presume that charges will be added to your monthly phone bill. *As of Froyo SK has partially, and poorly, integrated part of their(?) app store into the marketplace in a separate tab called "SKT"
Are there any other ways to download games in Korea?
Being rooted will allow you to run MarketEnabler and fake a SIM code to be in one of a few countries. I don't think anyone on this thread knows the legality of such actions, so do so at your own risk.
*Note, as of Nov 15th, the Froyo update fast web installer is not functional. Will update if there is a change and I remember. Also, see Koe's guide to getting VPN working which can give you access to location restricted apps.
I hold out hope that fast web installer for AppBrain will be updated to work on the SGS, there are reports that some items such as GoogleEarth can be installed in this manner where users can't find the app in the marketplace.
There are also always "other ways" amongst them there are 3rd party sites such as slideme.org where you can find both paid and free games (some of which might not be available in the marketplace due to developer preference and/or marketplace restrictions). Slideme will work direct on the phone and you can also use it on your PC to download and sideload apps. As a matter of fact, games can be found by developers here at XDA which can be sideloaded. If you root your phone you will, hopefully, be able to use market enabler to sign as though you aren't in Korea (use wifi + airplane mode) and be able to download games directly from the marketplace. Additionally there are always the less legitimate ways.
Does SK Telecom support OTA updates?
User akbk84 reported to me in August that he did receive an OTA udpate. However, this was weeks after I had received my first, and I was perhaps on my 3rd or 4th update by then. He She (my apologies ) did, however, receive the most current update. I do not know what SK/Samsung plan going forward, perhaps just critical updates will be OTA. I personally have, and I kind of recall reading someone else might've, received an OTA camera update.
Update: In the t-store there is an app called T-Upgrade, we believe it is supposed to give OTA updates to the phone. After downloading it didn't help me get the newest FW, so I'll post further information when I hear of a success story.
How do I work the DMB tuner? The DMB tuner works best with the DMB antenna extended. Extend the DMB tuner, located on the top right of the phone above the power button.
The secret codes were changed, or removed from, or broken during, an August firmware update. For now, we will keep a running list of working secrete codes here:
TouchKey F/W Info - *#86824#
- Has an "F/W Update" Button
- Can set the "Menu" and "Back" key sensitivity
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SKT Admin menu (general settings, such as: network, system, sms, etc.)
From the dialer enter: 319712358
You will be prompted for a pasword: 774632
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thanks koe1974
Can I change the SMS character limit from 80 to 160 characters?
This seems to be a common question posed from people living outside of Korea. Handcent defaults to 160 characters before changing the message to an MMS, how this will affect your message setting and carrier costs have never been verified so please do some sort of conclusive test and update us. Within Korea, MMS/SMS have the same pricing and free allotment, so it doesn't seem to be necessary to have the 160 character difference, also I haven't heard anything about how this might affect the messages and how SKT would deal with and treat extra long SMS messages.
Can we get Social Hub on the phone?
As far as I know, no one has successfully extracted and loaded Social Hub onto our phones.
I want the boot animation, do you have it?
Yes, please go to this post for more information.
This FAQ is terrible, but I have a question...
Please ask, provide better answers, do whatever to help us improve our SHW-m110s experience.
Thanks all!

여기 한국어 faq 쓰겠습니다, 하지만 미국 사람 입니다. 그름, 한굴말 잘 못 합니다, 미안합니다.

i'm hoping the mods will create a subforum for this model, since they seem to be doing it for all the models
or instead of that, they should combine all the forums into one
no idea what their plans are, but it's really messy as it's right now

Agreed, if I wasn't busy writing this I might've actually posted a link in the Galaxy Tab forum regarding your proposal when I saw it pop up on my Google reader.

re. the unlimited data option. it is currently available. i called SKT a few days ago and changed my plan to unlimited.

steveohan said:
re. the unlimited data option. it is currently available. i called SKT a few days ago and changed my plan to unlimited.
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You are correct, this thread has paid for itself already!

i'm so envious.... USA and Korea, and many other countries already have unlimited data
but we in Canada still stuck with limited data

Ha, if I were still in the US I'd still be a bit jealous of the Korean system. U.S. buy a Galaxy S, get a gimped phone and be forced into a data plan (no FF camera, no tethering with the exception of Sprint in 4G areas). These days new contracts at the big two, AT&T and Verizon don't even get unlimited data IIRC (Verizon is implementing capped data, not sure on the timeframe)
In Korea you can buy a phone without a data plan, or a plan without a voice plan. Unlimited data plan with 200 texts and 300 minutes (I might've reversed those) is essentially less than half the price of the cheapest AT&T and Verizon plan with more than 1GB.
In summary, you can have:
contract free
no voice plan
no data plan
unlimited data on the super cheap
free tethering (not available on any carrier in the U.S. in the near future with the exception of Sprint but only on the 4G network)
Free wifi access points
Compared to Canada I pay less than 50CAD for my plan.
Also, not available on SKT, the carrier that has the SGS, but one more reason to be jealous of possibilities here...KT expands Wi-Fi coverage to all subways

I found these at an korean site.
It's used with odin to root the phone.
NOT TESTED
hope this help
link here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tml?id=tipn&no=80&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

i think we should link all the other relevant Korean Galaxy S question to this topic, for a quick and easy index
i'll add them here as i find them
Korean Galaxy S Missing Features and Laggy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731466
[Q] Updating a Korean Galaxy S on a Mac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766310
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761040
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761095
Korea Figures
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758447
Official firmware DG07 pushed out in Korea via Kies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725407
Android 2.2 coming to Galaxy S. Starting with the Korean version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723713
[Q] m110s EDGE problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774508
Korean keyboard apk files from Korean Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778256
[Q] Samsung Galaxy S SMS Problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760159
Korean keyboard apk files from Korean Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778256
[Q] Need help on fixing boot.bin and Sbl.bin for my Korean Galaxy S (M110S)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790388
[Q] Anycall Galaxy stuck..>.> please HELP!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812106

Note: we (mods) are discussing the best way to combine/organize all the Galaxy S sections for ease of use.
In the meantime, I'm making this thread a sticky in this section for easy reference, 'till we determine if it will get it's own section in the long run.

vragon said:
I found these at an korean site.
It's used with odin to root the phone.
NOT TESTED
hope this help
link here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tml?id=tipn&no=80&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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Your link is more recent than mine, I think there is some merits to using both, I think the method I have is safer and doesn't use ODIN but it'll take some research. I'll see if I can look into it tomorrow 3 am right now. In any case, I appreciate the search and the links.
*Edit* As I said before, I think the way I have posted is preferred by the Korean community, the most recent, popular hack going on there links to mine. According to the discussion at matp, I think there's a smaller chance of bricking with the method I posted. However, also like I said before, I think thought there might be merits to both, so I'll put your link on the front page as an option to those who want to use Odin. Either way, thanks again.
AllGamer said:
i think we should link all the other relevant Korean Galaxy S question to this topic, for a quick and easy index
i'll add them here as i find them
Korean Galaxy S Missing Features and Laggy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731466
[Q] Updating a Korean Galaxy S on a Mac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766310
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761040
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761095
Korea Figures
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758447
Official firmware DG07 pushed out in Korea via Kies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725407
Android 2.2 coming to Galaxy S. Starting with the Korean version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723713
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I definitely contemplated it, especially the most recently active thread. You have more experience here so I'll defer to your wisdom, so there wouldn't be much hard in essentially "bumping" those other threads by posting a link to here? Or is there another method that's preferable? The one thing about the most recently active thread was two people were having the same issue and I wasn't sure if they'd be in contact there. I definitely want them to be in contact in one place or the other, so bumping that might actually do them some good. I'll post the link there now.
One more question. I plan, or at least planned, on posting when we receive Froyo in a new thread (I think it'll at least give the community the "update is around the corner" feeling that they desperately crave) and they won't be going out of there way to be looking here. Also, it seems to be the general community practice, even posting rumors they here from some guy in a kiosk . Do you advise against me starting a new thread when that occurs? I could always still link here even though I think it'd be expected that a lot of the initial discussion would occur there.

thanks for the update sirphunkee , it's good to know the idea hasn't been dropped.

alovell83, feel free to create new topics for worthy information, as most likely people would like to add feedback, etc
you don't want everything in this topic, else it will become a big mess, so instead we'll use this stickied topic as an index for all new Korea SGS related topic discussions, and important announcements.
until we learn the fate of the Admin decision on how to improve the SGS family forums

Good to hear on both the integration and the sticky, sirphunkee, thanks! We're feeling more welcome here already! But now you make me wish I wrote a better thread, well, it's already Saturday here so I guess I can get to my planned improvements when I wake up. Hopefully work on getting a 3-button equipped SGS as well so I can get some better rooting info available. More importantly, I'll probably, finally, register at matpclub and tell them we have a special section over here and looking to share best practices with there community.

you might want to write up something for your fellow Koreans, about the trick to warm up the phone to enable the 3 button download mode.
I still can not believe it myself, but there have been mixed reports from people saying yes it works (3 buttons did not work before the heat), and no it doesn't work
so i'm really confused, but it's worth a try for a few guys that got the Korea SGS and got stuck because the ROM Flash failed

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thanks for the update sirphunkee , it's good to know the idea hasn't been dropped.
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alovell83 said:
Good to hear on both the integration and the sticky, sirphunkee, thanks! We're feeling more welcome here already! But now you make me wish I wrote a better thread, well, it's already Saturday here so I guess I can get to my planned improvements when I wake up. Hopefully work on getting a 3-button equipped SGS as well so I can get some better rooting info available. More importantly, I'll probably, finally, register at matpclub and tell them we have a special section over here and looking to share best practices with there community.
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No prob I too would love to see a better organization of all the Galaxy sections...and I think the odds are very good that the final structure will be at least very similar to what's been proposed in AllGamer's poll (which is what we're using as the reference in the mod discussions).
Anyway, thanks for both of your efforts on all this, it is very much appreciated by both myself and the other users around here!

alovell83 said:
Your link is more recent than mine, I think there is some merits to using both, I think the method I have is safer and doesn't use ODIN but it'll take some research. I'll see if I can look into it tomorrow 3 am right now. In any case, I appreciate the search and the links.
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Since we can root the device, in theory we can easily fix the 70 chars limited sms and so on...

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Since we can root the device, in theory we can easily fix the 70 chars limited sms and so on...
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For people using the device outside of Korea, please fix for yourself. For domestic users who text alot, I wouldn't look for a fix, I'm under the impression you'll be charged for 4 texts if you use 241 bytes. While if you use MMS instead (the default when you go 81+ bytes) is counted as 1 message.
You need to have 3G on to send the MMS, which used to be annoying for me because I used to leave 3G off bc of 500mb limit, but they just started their unlimited data program so I now use 3G on 90% of the day.
In any case, do what is convenient for you.

Thanks for creating this thread alovell83.
Just to clear things out for FAQ #3, I was able to solve the issue PERMANENTLY by:
-Removing the SIM card
-Placing it in another phone that has the "My Number" option (I used an iPhone, heard that older Sony Ericssons work too.)
-Entering my own number in international format (+63917~) (Prior to this, "Unknown" was also shown in the iPhone.)
-Inserting the SIM back to the M110s.
There
PS I wasn't able to reply to you in the other thread, but 3G works now. I just had to enable data roaming on startup and use apndroid (avail. in market) to switch data on/off.

i9305 Teardown

Hey guys,
before I hijack another Thread again, have som high-res pictures of the i9305 Board. I identified the Chips I could, but I couldn't get Info on all of them... I am posting this because we were wondering if the 9305 has FM Radio or not. (And it seems like it doesn't...)
Anyway find them pics here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nqqcbf0er57josh/Oaby-BzY9g
Cheers

Good Idea maybe someone with hardware knowledge can confirm But i cant see anything that looks like the chip andreilux was showing and that chip in the same location is blurry i cant see how many legs it has or any numbers on it
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This is also an interesting read
http://www.nab.org/xert/scitech/pdfs/rd031411.pdf
Which is probably why the dumbass samsung worker said its up to the carriers if they wish to include fm software maybe she was mistaken with another galaxy but unless someone can confirm it has the hardware then that worker obviously doesnt know what she is talking about
And I was doing a search and It came up under the I9300 detailed analasys a list of all the I9300 hardware
Network:
Broadcom BCM4334 - latest ultra low power solution for smartphones
Wi-fi 802.11 a/b/g/n
Bluetooth 4
Contains FM receiver (unused, Si4709 instead) <<<<<< Does this mean that the broadcom also has a fm receiver but they dont use it instead they use the SiLabs Silicon chip?
Does the I9305 have the Broadcom BCM4334??

I don't know about the Broadcom Chip, but I suspect it as this one Chip I couldn't identify... Yes, this one has a FM Receiver, but it also may be useless if it's not connected anywhere. We don't know that and we can't test that. At least I can't with my humble equipment

langer hans said:
I don't know about the Broadcom Chip, but I suspect it as this one Chip I couldn't identify... Yes, this one has a FM Receiver, but it also may be useless if it's not connected anywhere. We don't know that and we can't test that. At least I can't with my humble equipment
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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4334
If you read there it says .... The chip includes IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n single-stream MAC/baseband/radio, Bluetooth 4.0 + HS, and an integrated FM radio receiver.
I thought if its on the board it means its already wired up

A Chip beeing on a board doesn't imply it beeing fully wired up. Maybe they get a good price for this chip so they don't care about the FM part. And for why they used another chip on the 9300: I guess it was easier to layout. Maybe better reception, license fees or whatnot.

ahh well there goes that idea then... lol
I was reading this thread before http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
Mentions a list of products and ours was in the list but note what it says. Its funny how everyone says maybe this maybe that
Says:
These devices will likely never be able to support FM with Spirit or any FM app: (But you never know. OG Motorola Droid was found to be FM audio capable, almost 3 years after introduction in Oct. 2009)
This was in the list
- Samsung Galaxy S3 US/Canada/Japan SC-06D/etc LTE versions do not have needed WCN3660 and Broadcom combo chip FM antenna pin not connected. GT-i9305 also appears incapable of FM. NEW: GT-i9305 / 9305T may have FM hardware, but stock, un-rooted ROMs are not capable.
I also found out yes we do have the BroadCom 4334 its a Murata chipset with FM capabilities But I think one pin of the chip is not connected to anything and that is the FM. Even the I9300 have this chipset and the same pin is not connected they instead use the SiLabs FM chipset

btemtd said:
Says:
These devices will likely never be able to support FM with Spirit or any FM app: (But you never know. OG Motorola Droid was found to be FM audio capable, almost 3 years after introduction in Oct. 2009)
This was in the list
- Samsung Galaxy S3 US/Canada/Japan SC-06D/etc LTE versions do not have needed WCN3660 and Broadcom combo chip FM antenna pin not connected. GT-i9305 also appears incapable of FM. NEW: GT-i9305 / 9305T may have FM hardware, but stock, un-rooted ROMs are not capable.
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Well, what I write there is based on what you guys are saying and we're all trying to find out together.
Re: telephone reps on the subject of whether or not a device supports FM: They seem to be accurate about 50-60% of the time. In fairness to them, they get little info from above and are not usually too tech savvy.
To many of these phone/support people, "FM" can include all the streaming apps that have "FM" in the title (when IMO they should say "streaming" or similar.) And there are SO many phones, and variants of hardware and software, coming out at a frantic pace, that it's difficult for them or ANY of us to figure out what's going on, unless we see a stock FM app, and someone reports it works.
As for the Broadcom BCM4330/4334/etc. chips for Bluetooth/Wifi, yes they all have FM receive (and transmit, but don't ask) hardware capability. But I think at least half of the devices using them don't use the FM part, and don't have the antenna pin(s) connected, nor the audio pins. And Broadcom has most of the market for "combo" chips.
So far I think every higher end Galaxy device uses Broadcom for Bluetooth and WiFi, and not a single one uses the FM part. This includes Galaxy S/S2/S3/Note/Note2/Player. If any of these devices has FM, it's via a dedicated Silicon Labs chip: Si4709 or Si4705 on GS3 at least.

Trying to clarify the stories of reports of FM on GT-i9305:
- The Youtube video demo showed an FM app. AFAICT that person started the app and heard radio type static, but no signals. He said he was in a rural area with few signals, so who knows.
But I've written elsewhere that I think hearing static is a good sign, as it proves the audio path and FM chip are there, IMO.
- My second point relates to the Note2. I previously mistakenly thought it was for 9305, but it was Note2, perhaps the GT-i7100 model. But there are similarities between Note2 (or at least the GT-i7105 variant) and GT-i9305.
Around the time of unveiling of the Note2 I saw videos that briefly showed an FM app in the app drawer. But I don't recall any video/demo showing the FM app working, or any specific claim it was tried and worked.
- Before anyone brings it up, Internet phone spec sites are notoriously bad at small detail accuracy, particularly for FM.

mikereidis said:
Trying to clarify the stories of reports of FM on GT-i9305:
- The Youtube video demo showed an FM app. AFAICT that person started the app and heard radio type static, but no signals. He said he was in a rural area with few signals, so who knows.
But I've written elsewhere that I think hearing static is a good sign, as it proves the audio path and FM chip are there, IMO.
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The sound platforms are different for all the devices. Fact is globally all LTE variations of the S3 and Note 2 lack FM radio support, even if they magically had the hardware or pin-ups, the basic defconfig in all the kernels have the FM_RADIO base configuration turned off, not to mention the lack of GPIO pin definitions to it in any of the boards.

I would love to see a teardown of a 9305T now to see if they've installed another bandfilter to 'break' 2100MHz reception!!!

I see a chip in the GT-i9305 pics in the same position as the si4705 FM chip on the GT-i9300. It's about half the length and width (1/4 area) as on the GT-i9300 but it's there.
It could be a Silicon Labs FM chip in a smaller package size, and that's my "bet" for what it is.
In the "FM is off topic, please don't post about FM" thread, I think the best page of posts is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932997&page=6 . AndreiLux posted a pic there showing the Si4705 between the Murata/Broadcom BT/WiFi/FM combo module/chip and the chip.
BTW, the Si4705 is U203 in the GT-i9300 service manual. There's an error claiming the Si4705 is u711, which is actually a big camera chip I guess.
There are GT-i9305 pics here: http://imgur.com/a/ypxOf#aS29c and I think best pic/resolution is pic 6 of 11 (0?) here: http://imgur.com/a/ypxOf#aS29c
In that pic 6, the Murata/Broadcom module is at lower left. Immediately to it's right is a small surface mount component at top, and below it what may be a chip.
Move to the right from the component and you see what I think is the Silicon Labs FM chip. There are several solder bumps.
For reference, further to the right and below is the white push button switch.
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Software wise, my suspicion would be that a kernel for the GT-i9300 that supported the chip would "magically" support this alleged FM chip, using whatever constants and port values worked for 9300. It's the same Exynos SOC pretty much, and the board layouts are similar, right ?

ewok666 said:
I would love to see a teardown of a 9305T now to see if they've installed another bandfilter to 'break' 2100MHz reception!!!
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The I9305 Runs on the 2100mhz are you saying that the I9305T may not?
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mikereidis said:
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Software wise, my suspicion would be that a kernel for the GT-i9300 that supported the chip would "magically" support this alleged FM chip, using whatever constants and port values worked for 9300. It's the same Exynos SOC pretty much, and the board layouts are similar, right ?
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Yes its the same exynos SOC and layous are similar .
Maybe andreilux has some input on your post, its very interesting.

btemtd said:
Yes its the same exynos SOC and layous are similar .
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Thanks for the email log. So yours is a 9305 on Vodafone AU ?
I have another log from a 9305T on Telstra AU, but it wasn't rooted so I get less info.
The only sign of FM on either device is the "FM In" control in the ALSA audio driver. This doesn't prove anything one way or another though; "phantom" controls on variants are common.
If anyone can look closer at the FM chip and Murata module area, please do, and if you can, post high res pictures.
Besides that I look forward to someone building and installing a kernel with the Samsung Si4709_driver / radio-si4709-i2c drivers enabled, either in the main kernel or as loadable *.ko drivers. There are alternative V4L drivers for si470x but the Samsung ones are preferred for my app, and needed for the Samsung app.
IMO, a kernel dev could pretty much use the config from a GT-i9300.
These investigations usually end in defeat, and I could be wrong, but I'm feeling optimistic about this one with the evidence so far.
I see 4 kernel variants:
GT-I9305
GT-I930N
GT-I9305T_SEA
GT-I9305_HK
All use arch/arm/configs/m3_00_defconfig and none have the FM driver enabled. Interestingly GT-I9305_HK m3_00_variant_defconfig has some stuff for variants, but nothing impacts FM:
3vzw="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_VZW=y"
m3vzw_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3spr="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_SPR=y"
m3spr_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3tmo="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_TMO=y"
m3tmo_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3att="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_ATT=y"
m3att_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3dcm="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_JPN=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_JPN_DCM=y \
CONFIG_EXYNOS4_MSHC_SUPPORT_PQPRIME_EPLL=y \
CONFIG_FELICA=y CONFIG_ISDBT=y CONFIG_ISDBT_FC8150=y"
m3dcm_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT NFC_DEVICES PN65N_NFC"
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From the m0_00_defconfig file for GT-i9300 I think we need these 3 lines, but not sure about "Samsung Modules":
CONFIG_SAMSUNG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_FM_RADIO=y
CONFIG_FM_SI4705=y

mikereidis said:
Thanks for the email log. So yours is a 9305 on Vodafone AU ?
I have another log from a 9305T on Telstra AU, but it wasn't rooted so I get less info.
The only sign of FM on either device is the "FM In" control in the ALSA audio driver. This doesn't prove anything one way or another though; "phantom" controls on variants are common.
If anyone can look closer at the FM chip and Murata module area, please do, and if you can, post high res pictures.
Besides that I look forward to someone building and installing a kernel with the Samsung Si4709_driver / radio-si4709-i2c drivers enabled, either in the main kernel or as loadable *.ko drivers. There are alternative V4L drivers for si470x but the Samsung ones are preferred for my app, and needed for the Samsung app.
IMO, a kernel dev could pretty much use the config from a GT-i9300.
These investigations usually end in defeat, and I could be wrong, but I'm feeling optimistic about this one with the evidence so far.
Downloading the Samung kernel source now to see if their config disables the FM driver. Will edit this post with an answer.
I see 4 kernel variants:
GT-I9305
GT-I930N
GT-I9305T_SEA
GT-I9305_HK
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Yes Vodafone is my network provider, I will see if OP can get High res pics... And Andreilux already made the kernel with FM but didnt want to release it untill 100% sure about FM... becuase it may brick a device??

btemtd said:
Yes Vodafone is my network provider, I will see if OP can get High res pics... And Andreilux already made the kernel with FM but didnt want to release it untill 100% sure about FM... becuase it may brick a device??
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I seriously doubt bricking potential, but with software you never ever know for sure until you try. Communications with the chip is via I2C, not potentially dangerous GPIOs. but there are some GPIOs used for power and who knows what else.
I note that this is a somewhat new si4705 driver Samsung has in drivers/samsung/fm_si47xx for GT-i9300, although it seems little different from the Galaxy S/S2/Note fm_si4709 driver, at first glance at least.
For anyone interested, there is some useful information here about FM missing from the original US LTE GS3s, compared to GT-i9300: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31576462
There are various pics, schematic excerpts and a bit about the differences with Si4705 versus the si4709 of the International Galaxy S/S2/Notes.

btemtd said:
The I9305 Runs on the 2100mhz are you saying that the I9305T may not?
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No, I'm saying that on past 'T' models the 2100MHz band was attenuated to reduce signal and make them prefer other bands. This is a link but the discussion has been had here before and you should be able to find pictures showing the element discussed.
http://webdevsys.com/gt-i9100t.htm

mikereidis said:
I seriously doubt bricking potential, but with software you never ever know for sure until you try. Communications with the chip is via I2C, not potentially dangerous GPIOs. but there are some GPIOs used for power and who knows what else.
I note that this is a somewhat new si4705 driver Samsung has in drivers/samsung/fm_si47xx for GT-i9300, although it seems little different from the Galaxy S/S2/Note fm_si4709 driver, at first glance at least.
For anyone interested, there is some useful information here about FM missing from the original US LTE GS3s, compared to GT-i9300: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31576462
There are various pics, schematic excerpts and a bit about the differences with Si4705 versus the si4709 of the International Galaxy S/S2/Notes.
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Good research Mike! we'll just wait till andreilux joins the convo, as he has the knowledge of creating the Kernel side.
Also you might like to know that apparently the Law in hong kong restricts the use of Fm radio in Mobile devices, as i have been told by a few suppliers.

ewok666 said:
No, I'm saying that on past 'T' models the 2100MHz band was attenuated to reduce signal and make them prefer other bands. This is a link but the discussion has been had here before and you should be able to find pictures showing the element discussed.
http://webdevsys.com/gt-i9100t.htm
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Whether it's true or not, my i9305T appears to have equal or better reception on optus than my i9000 (hard to tell 100% but it certainly crazy fast with H+ at my home! My i9000 was almost always crawling on H (hsdpa? the naming scheme really confuses me). I may try to install a stock i9305 modem in future to test though

Well i know for a fact the i9305 is fine on every network in australia just depends on the providor on what speed and quality you will get. And yes we have Dc-hspa+ which is 2 times faster then normal 3g hspa+ ...which is why your getting high speeds. Our phone will still only show h+ if we are on DC i already looked into that .Just imagine 4g.. browsing will go on yet a whole other level again! Lol
I think the 9305t is the same thing to be honest unless telstra did restrict a band to force people to stick with them. That is what you would call a big shifty company.
Becausr the i9300t was the same as the i9300. So i am only assuming this would be the same
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app

btemtd said:
The I9305 Runs on the 2100mhz are you saying that the I9305T may not?
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Yes its the same exynos SOC and layous are similar .
Maybe andreilux has some input on your post, its very interesting.
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btemtd said:
Well i know for a fact the i9305 is fine on every network in australia just depends on the providor on what speed and quality you will get. And yes we have Dc-hspa+ which is 2 times faster then normal 3g hspa+ ...which is why your getting high speeds. Our phone will still only show h+ if we are on DC i already looked into that .Just imagine 4g.. browsing will go on yet a whole other level again! Lol
I think the 9305t is the same thing to be honest unless telstra did restrict a band to force people to stick with them. That is what you would call a big shifty company.
Becausr the i9300t was the same as the i9300. So i am only assuming this would be the same
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
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Can't say much about the i9300 vs i9300T or the i9305 for that matter BUT what I do know is that the i9100 was supposed to be the same as the i9100T and it very clearly was not. From my own experience the i9100T was sh1t in some areas where an i9100 was perfectly fine and a teardown showed a bandfilter where the i9100 had none.
On Whirlpool is a guy who flashed the Singapore firmware onto his Telstra i9305T and promptly lost 4G. He flashed back the Telstra firmware and got 4G back. I have the Singapore firmware on an i9305 (non T) and my 4G works just fine.
Now, you tell me what to conclude from this but I will not spend a single cent on another T model....I just don't need this kind of crap! (and by crap I don't mean the phone itself but rather the practice of crippling something that works perfectly fine just so you can force your customers one way or the other!)

Proper 6039Y (4.7") vs 6045Y (5.5") signalling

Hello there
I recently acquired our beloved Idol 3, the 4.7" variant (aka 6039Y), and I couldn't help but noticing a rather disturbing fact :
=> Any information about the 6039Y model is diluted in general threads or buried inside the 6045Y threads ...
Would it be possible for everybody posting information/patches/docs/etc specific to the 6039Y model to post stuff in specific threads with a [6039Y] tag in the title somewhere ?
I believe this would make finding relevant information way easier for everyone
I still dream of unified methods/patches for both models, considering both devices shouldn't be that different, but that is up to the volunteers providing the software to decide.
What do you guys/gals think ?

DarkZell666 said:
Hello there
I recently acquired our beloved Idol 3, the 4.7" variant (aka 6039Y), and I couldn't help but noticing a rather disturbing fact :
=> Any information about the 6039Y model is diluted in general threads or buried inside the 6045Y threads ...
Would it be possible for everybody posting information/patches/docs/etc specific to the 6039Y model to post stuff in specific threads with a [6039Y] tag in the title somewhere ?
I believe this would make finding relevant information way easier for everyone
I still dream of unified methods/patches for both models, considering both devices shouldn't be that different, but that is up to the volunteers providing the software to decide.
What do you guys/gals think ?
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The problem you are gonna have is that you 6039 users are kinda gonna have to run with the ball because your root method AND version of TWRP is totally different then the ones for the 6045 so you can't even follow our guides (for example your version doesn't offer the option to backup "System image" which included partition info). Since no one has done it I don't think anyone would have an issue if you started "how to root on the 6039" and "how to install twrp on the 6039"...notice I'm not identifying a letter because I don't know if the 4.7 model only comes as a 6039Y....the 6045 has 6045i (usa/canada), 6045Y(europe), and 6045K (Various other places). There is also a rumored 6045B.

Dose the 4'7" even have same specs as 5'5" normally the specs ain't the same in smaller version CPU and ram etc , ie s4 quad core 2GB and s4 mini dual core 1.5gb and have totally different root guides and methods , I believe both variants will get good support evench its a cracking device and support is slowly building
Sent from my 6045Y using Tapatalk

DoobyDroid said:
Dose the 4'7" even have same specs as 5'5" normally the specs ain't the same in smaller version CPU and ram etc , ie s4 quad core 2GB and s4 mini dual core 1.5gb and have totally different root guides and methods , I believe both variants will get good support evench its a cracking device and support is slowly building
Sent from my 6045Y using Tapatalk
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Different hardware. Different root method. Different version of TWRP. Different method of backing up system image. Basically the only thing that is the same is the fact they call both of them an "Idol 3".

Thought as much
Sent from my 6045Y using Tapatalk

famewolf said:
Different hardware. Different root method. Different version of TWRP. Different method of backing up system image. Basically the only thing that is the same is the fact they call both of them an "Idol 3".
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Considering both phones are Qualcomm-based, I would assume they aren't THAT different after all ? (I AM new to Android development, so there must be something I'm missing for sure )
I mean, Android is based and Linux, and our chip is just yet another ARMv7 chip which the linux kernel supports pretty well, so what makes an ARMv7 chip different from any other ARMv7 chip ?
Do they optimize the kernel so far that they strip anything useless for each phone out of it, effectively rendering each kernel useless on any other phone ?
One last question : wouldn't building a generic ARMv7 kernel from this page be a good starting point ? (msm projet is for Qualcomm hardware) : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html#figuring-out-which-kernel-to-build
Note that I might be daydreaming here and I don't fully realise what amount of works this implies.

DarkZell666 said:
Considering both phones are Qualcomm-based, I would assume they aren't THAT different after all ? (I AM new to Android development, so there must be something I'm missing for sure )
I mean, Android is based and Linux, and our chip is just yet another ARMv7 chip which the linux kernel supports pretty well, so what makes an ARMv7 chip different from any other ARMv7 chip ?
Do they optimize the kernel so far that they strip anything useless for each phone out of it, effectively rendering each kernel useless on any other phone ?
One last question : wouldn't building a generic ARMv7 kernel from this page be a good starting point ? (msm projet is for Qualcomm hardware) : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html#figuring-out-which-kernel-to-build
Note that I might be daydreaming here and I don't fully realise what amount of works this implies.
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You need to spend some time reading the existing threads such as the root thread etc where alot of this has been covered. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/help/root-ability-phone-t3116179

4.7" and 5.5" models have different hardware
The whole forum about Idol 3 is a big mess to me because most people do not realize that the Idol 3 comes in many different hardware configurations.
Indeed we should start stating comments in for at least 5.5 and 4.7 models. (GPU/3g/4g is different and what else) or for both if it applies.
Although this forum already implies it's about a 5.5 model according to the home page, there are many different hardware models discussed! We need active moderators when roms start roling to distinguish ourselfs from lemmings!

Maybe ask a mod to make a 4.7 model sub-forum.

Test Point Moto G Possible Hints

so ive been searching for hours to find the moto G 2nd Gen 2014 schematics (for this the lte doesnt matter) and ive found something strange,
so this is the datasheet:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4qdFc4X0N74eTRWMkk4bDJMWkE/view?usp=sharing
on page 7 it says blank flash next to the power button, if you look at the development unit's foto, you can see that at this location should be a chip, but in reality, there isnt..
This could be some sort of sign that this has to do with the flashing, and may be a sign of where the Qhsusb_blank testpoint/short is...
So i have 2 moto g's the xt1072 and the 1068,
the xt1072 is hard bricked, and im willing to try to short the test points if i can find them (just like the lg g2's testpoints),
I am willing to provide fotos of the motherboard, if you ask me (i have a microscope, and a smartphone zoom lens accesory)
so please help me out! (and others indirectly)
(btw proof of this chip:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4qdFc4X0N74ZEpOUGk5NWd1ckE/view?usp=sharing
)
EDIT: here are some more pictures of where i think the resistors will be that may could be the test points that the lg g2 had:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4qdFc4X0N74TldYSnJycE1ESDQ
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4qdFc4X0N74b2dhalczVFFaU3M

HI ,can you help me download this file ? http://www.telecelula.com.br/new/download_Procurar.asp?procurar=xt1058 ,thankyou

It seems like we have valuable technical info here. You should be stickied!

Same Source Code = Same ROM for YT3-850L/M??

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/pro... and Software|Drivers and Software&beta=false
The above official Lenovo site lists only TWO (2) Source Code versions for THREE (3) devices: YT3-850L/M and the separate YT3-850F. This may explain why I've not located firmware specific to the YT3-850L. LOOKS as if the SAME ROM is used for the L AND M devices, suggesting there must be a hardware difference between the two. L is LTE DATA ONLY, whereas M is LTE DATA and PHONE. So I may have been on a wild goose chase. I'd hoped that M-firmware would turn my L-device into an M-device. Looks like maybe not. Other conclusions solicited if supported by evidence.
Thanks.
EDIT: I'm wondering if this should have been posted to a more general section. The small market share of Yoga Tablet users is not going to make this a hot thread. Anyway to get an administrator to move it? Thanks.