Z3 Performance degrades even for basic apps - Xperia Z3 General

I had Z1 prior to Z3 and performance degraded overtime, not because the number of apps because that hasn't changed, but after multiple software updates. I haven't had any updates on my TMO Z3 yet, but I already feel like it's getting slower, even though I am not running any heavy apps on it. It just feels sluggish when doing basic things like launching standard Phone or Sms apps. Oh, and I am not running Stamina mode either.

What launcher are you using, if any?
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crisscross3 said:
What launcher are you using, if any?
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None, just stock
EDIT: As a comparison I used friends iPhone 6 and compared the speed of launching Phone app and Z3 is slower by about 0.3 second which doesn't sound much, but it feels sluggish.

that's typical for android

If my old Nexus 5 is anything to go by, performance will improve once 5.0 hits. Specifically the ART runtime.

Mine seems fine with Nova launcher as well as removing any unnecessary animations.

The latest stock launcher is slower than the one with smaller icons. I have tested both in my Z1C

My Z3 fells very fast even after months of use including system update and a lot of apps install/updates. Performance is top notch here.
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I hate touchwiz

I seriously hate the entire framework! lol. I want to get an AOSP rom already!
Not being impatient, just saying that touchwiz sucks compared to the android experience
What sucks about it? The custom vibrate for calls? The direct dial from a contract? The option to disable apps that you don't want to run? The ability to hide icons in the app drawer? The motion settings? The customizable lock screen icons? The lock screen weather? The lock screen news? The smart stay feature? The ability to use custom fonts at different sizes? The tap to top feature? Etc........
I really enjoy touchwiz, it just makes everything, shall I say, easier..
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I wouldn't say I hate it, but I'm quite sure I'll use cm9/10 or aokp as a daily driver when they become available. TW is OK, the device runs well but I don't thing more is always better and Samsung definitely packed as many software additions into this phone as they probably saw possible.
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There are a lot of better functions plus the stuff that samsung adds in like s voice pop up play and others. It is also more user friendly but people do not like the interface.. you can always install a launcher though xD
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JamesInsights said:
There are a lot of better functions plus the stuff that samsung adds in like s voice pop up play and others. It is also more user friendly but people do not like the interface.. you can always install a launcher though xD
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Agreed, I like the features but I don't really like the launcher. Nova ftw
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Touchwiz ain't so bad once you put Apex or Nova on top of it
I do have apex installed and it makes things much better. But the UI throughout is not something I really like.
I never thought I would like stock touchwix, besides the launcher I think is pretty good, even has battery percentage without rooting, I can't Care less for s voice is too slow, but the os modifications are good, that being said AOKP still my favorite
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I was actually impressed by the fluidity of TW on my GSII, but seriously, it's so ugly. I think compared to sense, it's less laggy, but it's really a cartoonland nightmare.
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I was actually impressed by the fluidity of TW on my GSII, but seriously, it's so ugly. I think compared to sense, it's less laggy, but it's really a cartoonland nightmare.
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I guess this is my main hatred towards it. The design kinda sucks. It feels way to busy
I don't mind TouchWiz (I'm a child at heart), but I tried out Nova, and now my GSIII is "Boss" You want a awful Skin? Try MOTOBLUR. I'll never touch another Motorola phone again. Bloatware central for me.
Phone from old:
Motorola Defy W/MOTOBLUR.
I hear you. I was stoked for the extra features it had had and was excited that people said it was pretty close to stock ics. After running ics on my captivate I need pure android back ASAP lol...
Changing the launcher etc helps make it liveable though.
DAMNIT I CANT WAIT FOR PURE JELLYBEAN
I've tried Nova, Apex, Go, and none of them compare to TW when it comes to speed and fluidity. I prefer the look and customizations of either of those over TW but TW just flat out performs!
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Gadgetz said:
I've tried Nova, Apex, Go, and none of them compare to TW when it comes to speed and fluidity. I prefer the look and customizations of either of those over TW but TW just flat out performs!
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I completely disagree. There is no noticeable difference in the performance between launchers.
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I completely disagree. There is no noticeable difference in the performance between launchers.
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
I like tochwiz. It's much better than Sense was on my Evo OG. Then again, I've always preferred stock plus root. It seems like none of the launchers or ROMs work as they should.
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
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You use your phone with power saving mode turned on? :S
Gadgetz said:
You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
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I disagree. Your signature is annoying as well. Maybe size it to something other than obnoxious.
I love tw. I haven't even thought about installing a replacment launcher let alone installing a custom rom. Its so smooth! Then again in coming from motoblur..
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The recent apps/multi-tasking menu is sluggish/choppy/slow and it's annoying.

I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus. I loved that phone...I mean it was borderline weird how much I loved that phone. lol Anyway, I like this phone more. It's blazing fast, the hardware is better in every regard...it's just awesome. Which is why I find it incredibly annoying how sluggish the recent apps menu is. It's sluggish when it comes up and the screen fades, and swiping apps off the menu bar is just sort of sluggish and not fluid like it was on the Nexus.
I've tried it on my friends Int version and on my AT&T version, it performs the same on both. I'm curios if anyone else coming from a Nexus notices this?
I don't know why it bugs me so much (first world problems) but it really just seems like it should be fluid considering how much faster this phone is that my GN (on ICS, sold it before JB)
I actually just remove all apps when I use it just so they vanish fast and I don't have to witness the slow animation of swiping apps off the screen. Unlike my GN it does seem to swipe the apps off faster based on how fast I use my finger, but it still doesn't have the fluidity that my previous precious had.
Just ranting, chime in if you want.
I think is much because of the hold Down on the home button if you run aokp and add the nav bar is faster, also make sure you turn off s Voice double click
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Thanks, yeah I disabled S-Voice.
Actually not related to the home button as it does the same thing using nova launcher recent apps short cut
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I guess this isn't a common complaint for most of you.
Maybe it's me, but mine seems good. Def not as fluid as my buds Jb Gnex but fluid enough.
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its fine for me. could it be smoother? sure. not worst wasting my keystrokes on making a post about it. itll get better with custom roms ESPECIALLY JB roms

Is the lag really that bad...?

I heard people complaining about lag on the newer 10.1 2014 vs the old note 10.1 2012. Is the lag really THAT bad? Or is it just a new device?
What lag?
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Was afraid too, but seriously there is no lag if your are not finicial. Didn't lag more than other android, even better.
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I have mine rooted with custom rom and it flies, even right out the box there was no lag but with the megablast rom it goes fast.
I've had some issue's with lagging at certain times. I use my tablet a lot but I'm on my 4th tablet in the last two years and this ones been the laggeist. I have not had time to narrow it down but I run out of ram pretty quick. With that said the tablet performs great and I have no other complaint. I guess root & rom is my next step cause this tablet is a keeper.
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Heres a link to my thread to show you a video of what your missing. No lag or anything works perfect. All links to rom ect in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642292
All the Samsung bloat could be an issue for some, but using Nova launcher cuts most of that out.
Even so there is no lag in games, apps or videos... Its among the best Android tablets available.
Yes this Tablet is horrible...lag is so bad..Go buy a IPad they are so fast and you can customise it!....Oh wait You can't do that. LOL.....
No lag here ...TABLET IS AWESOME.
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I use Nova Launcher and a couple of seconds from sleep mode to screen on is the only "significant kind of lag" I have noticed, which barely affects my wonderful experience and opinion about this tablet. I do not regret this purchase given the massive personal and proffesional use I put it through on a daily basis with outstanding performance, non to mention the pleasant screen and stereo sound multimedia experience.
I am actually running the MJ6 firmware (pretty old) and I hope Samsung will release the 4.4 MX UI update short after the new Pro series arrival. The 4.4 kitkat firmware has enhanced the Note 3 in many aspects (battery life and smoothness among others) so I have high expectations for the Note 10.1 2014. We'll see
iiSo say we all!! from my SM-P600
no lag here, dude.. just stutter sometimes...
Using LTE version here. Install apex launcher, turn off all the smart screen options and this tablet flies.
Hahahalalala said:
I heard people complaining about lag on the newer 10.1 2014 vs the old note 10.1 2012. Is the lag really THAT bad? Or is it just a new device?
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THERE IS NO LAG!!!!!!!!!!!!! This Tab is amazing. The ONLY lag is the STUPID and USELESS Samsung TouchWiz idiotic launcher. Root the tab, install for Nova under system apps, make it default launcher, reboot and obliterate TouchWiz. DOne. No more lag ever.
It's always the issue with Android tablets that they'll be lagging more then apple pads. Although I'm happy with the Note 10.1 less till no lag a at all. I wasn't sure how it will be before I bought. I'm coming from LG-GPAD and trust me that one DOES lag as hell.
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Try Holo Launcher HD :thumbup:
I found that chrome browser is very lagy when scrolling, , any chance to make it smoother ?
T3KN0P13 said:
I have not had time to narrow it down but I run out of ram pretty quick.
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More ram is used, faster your tablet is. You cannot run out of ram, OS manages it for you.
No lag here, rooted, sslauncher.
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All the Samsung bloat could be an issue for some, but using Nova launcher cuts most of that out.
Even so there is no lag in games, apps or videos... Its among the best Android tablets available.
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Ohh thanks, guess I will be downloading Nova Launcher! Doesn't need root right?
Also, which ones are bloatware from Samsung and are they deleteable?
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Ohh thanks, guess I will be downloading Nova Launcher! Doesn't need root right?
Also, which ones are bloatware from Samsung and are they deleteable?
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Don't need to be rooted to have nova launcher and as for bloatware go into settings and apps and you can disable most things you don't use and the stuff from Samsung normally begin with s as silly as it sounds you will find them
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tamerh said:
I found that chrome browser is very lagy when scrolling, , any chance to make it smoother ?
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Never had a problem on my note with chrome its always been smooth. try going into your app draw holding the chrome icon till you see app info at the top drag the icon to that then clear data. If that doesn't sort it try these changers posted here http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-4/293533-how-speed-up-mobile-chrome-browser.html that should do the trick not that I've done either but I know they work as I used them on my moto g and now chrome fly's
tamerh said:
I found that chrome browser is very lagy when scrolling, , any chance to make it smoother ?
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Get a different browser, my favourite ones are
Dolphin
Firefox
Maxthon
Next
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No lag here. Have had my 32gb since Friday. I use Nova, but used Wiz for two days. Neither UI lags, but I prefer Nova due to features. No comparison, IMO.
Mine is not rooted and I do not see the need to root with this device.

Nova Prime vs. Apex Pro

Which is better for Note 3? What do you suggest?
I prefer to use Nova Launcher.
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I have both and have stayed with Nova ever since I tried it. They are both similar, but Nova offers better performance and I like the way it implements certain things, I guess it suits my way of thinking better. The latest implementation of "OK Google" is brilliant too.
As for which fits the note 3 better... I'd say both fit ir perfectly, but that performance benefit from Nova makes it an easy choice for me.
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thank you guys.
i prefer to use nova prime also.
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Which is better for Note 3? What do you suggest?
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I am on Apex Pro, but I guess is more of a matter of personal taste with some random element.
If I remember correctly for me the extra boost was that on neither one I could use the Samsung Weather+Clock widget, but on Apex I had Fancy Widgets from the same developer and I liked that one.
They're pretty much identical.
I much prefer Apex.
Back around the initial release Nova had some issues with the Note 3, but that is no longer the case. It's just a matter of personal preference now.
Out of curiosity, as I haven't used apex for a long while... Does it support the ok Google question from the desktop as nova recently had?
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I have always prefered apex.. since i got my i9100 back in 2012.
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both of them are fine i think
ShredCreature said:
Out of curiosity, as I haven't used apex for a long while... Does it support the ok Google question from the desktop as nova recently had?
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I honestly don't know. That's the first thing I disabled when I got the phone... But I don't think it does.
I've just decided to try Nova again. But no, I prefer Apex. For one, if has a great many more Font options. (I like a light condensed one, Nova only has big fat and massive But that's the designer in me nitpicking.)
(So yes, I actually have both I also own Next, but mainly for showing off (to iSheep))
ShredCreature said:
Out of curiosity, as I haven't used apex for a long while... Does it support the ok Google question from the desktop as nova recently had?
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As of today's update, it does support OK Google hot word detection.

Disappointed with LG lollipop update

I'm really disappointed with 5.0 lollipop update for my LG, just looks the same as kitkat, hardly any material design.
I like what Samsung as done with their lollipop update tho, would nice to see LG do the same
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Kingfish907 said:
I'm really disappointed with 5.0 lollipop update for my LG, just looks the same as kitkat, hardly any material design.
I like what Samsung as done with their lollipop update tho, would nice to see LG do the same
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Yeah LG didn't adopt all the great design features of Lollipop making it a lackluster update appearance-wise. Hopefully the system is smoother with better animations and transitions. I prefer stock android look so will be making it look as close to this as possible once a stock rooted ROM pops up on the forums.
Kingfish907 said:
I'm really disappointed with 5.0 lollipop update for my LG, just looks the same as kitkat, hardly any material design.
I like what Samsung as done with their lollipop update tho, would nice to see LG do the same
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Then what? Go buy some Samsung if you like it more.
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Yeah LG didn't adopt all the great design features of Lollipop
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Examples? What GREAT design features G3 lacks?
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Then what? Go buy some Samsung if you like it more.Examples? What GREAT design features G3 lacks?
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We are having a friendly discussion here please don't try to start a war. LG G3 lollipop doesn't have expandable notifications, white app drawer, redesigned quick settings just to name a few.
Yeah I Couldn't completely agree with you as i have both LG G3 and LG G2, but the UI sucks of both kitkat and lolipop,the system is fairly smooth but the greyish color in system apps suck,so i had to theme them to look like 5.0 apps,and the G2 has got the G3 kitkat version,and i cant point out much difference in terms of UI Of both lolipop and kitkat in G3.
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white app drawer, redesigned quick settings
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Hm, why do you think LG must implement all of stock android features? To them be undistinguishable from dozens of cheap Chinese smartphones that put stock Android because they lack money to develop own skin and launcher?
Have you heard about a new version of LG UX 4.0 to be released before LG G4 presentation?
I don't think they "have" to this is an opinion based thread. My opinion is that stock android or close to it is the way to go. The OP stated how the update did not fully realize the wealth of material design which in essence is true. Besides the transitions and such visually it looks the same. I have no idea how cheap Chinese smartphones made their way into this conversation. I guess you are calling my tastes cheap, dunno if you even understand what exactly it is you're trying to illustrate.
Hi,
Same as Kingfish907, I am also dissapointed how the LG customized, or rather "customized" it's android L version (mean UI). Simply saying, for me, LG's UI is ugly and seems almost like on my old galaxy ace.
I am disapointed also because just before I used miui v6 on my cheap china phone and you know what? Sometimes I really regret the change... Smoothnes, behaviour, configuration possibilities and look of this chinese system are even non comparable to LG's... But it's only an example. Also cm11 looks IMVVVHO better (and seems to be more flexible) than this LG .
So, it's probably depends on user experience and demands....
Regards
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I've got the LG with the latest V5 software and also got a Nexus 10 with standard 5.1 on it. There isn't a lot of difference as far as usability is concerned. Both work well and both have very good battery life (the Nexus 10 is better, but then it won't make phone calls).
Alan
Why do you want white background ??? Darker colours make battery last longer ... And to be honest I think overall look of lg is more unified ... I like it a lot ... But do hope to some changes that will make it more complete ...
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I came from Samsung and I hate thier touchwiz UI. If you ask me the LG UI is much better. Neither are as good as stock android though.
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I recently used se edge in a shop, and just opening and closing the apps was just so smooth, it worked like the same slide up animation but better, instead of like the whole slide up and down animation of lg, the apps kind of like minimised into thr icon if you know what i mean. Also they had the same dialer as stock lollipop and i hope lg brings those floatong icons in there system apps as those look really nice with nice looking animations.
I don't mind the look of LG's UI. It's just the damn lag. I parted with my Nexus 4 only because it was beginning to show its age and start lagging. I got a nasty shock when I discovered that the G3 was just as laggy if not laggier. I mean, I always heard Lollipop would be the savior and would finally get rid of Android's legendary lags. But it seems to have made no improvements on that front. I'm just sick and tired of waiting for that "next" version that would fix everything.
I just love people and the lag .... My g3 3gb version on android v20H has no lag at all ... I don't really understand what are you all talking about ... We are talking here in milli seconds not in minutes ...
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Mine lags at least 1-2 seconds 50% of the time in responding to loading text messaging, switching between Apps, etc. and its doing my head in. I had a Xperia Z2 which had similar specs but never lagged and I didng have root on that either. I have only had the G3 for about 5 days and already updated to Lollipop but that is not helping either. Any suggestions people?
zdravkodubravec said:
I just love people and the lag .... My g3 3gb version on android v20H has no lag at all ... I don't really understand what are you all talking about ... We are talking here in milli seconds not in minutes ...
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Pls take your sarcasm elsewhere.
Where I live, the 3GB edition isn't available. Also, I am not talking about animation lags (which is of course present as well). I am talking about not being able to multitask properly or browse multiple sites due to the system killing background apps/tabs too aggressively.
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Pls take your sarcasm elsewhere.
Where I live, the 3GB edition isn't available. Also, I am not talking about animation lags (which is of course present as well). I am talking about not being able to multitask properly or browse multiple sites due to the system killing background apps/tabs too aggressively.
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It is just funny ... There is so much you can do with software .... And hardware then has a limitation ...in your case 1gb less ... I also have friends with 2gb model and they don't have any lag at all ...
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I have no idea how cheap Chinese smartphones made their way into this conversation. I guess you are calling my tastes cheap, dunno if you even understand what exactly it is you're trying to illustrate.
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About Chinese I mean that they use stock android, because of lack of developers in those firms. LG can develop it's own custom UI, with it's QSlide and such. If you prefer stock much more than we all here on xda,and have an option to flash any ROM we like, don't we? Choose one there http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development flash it and BOOM you don't see LG's lags
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About Chinese I mean that they use stock android, because of lack of developers in those firms. LG can develop it's own custom UI, with it's QSlide and such. If you prefer stock much more than we all here on xda,and have an option to flash any ROM we like, don't we? Choose one there http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development flash it and BOOM you don't see LG's lags
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The fact that you linked the whole development section shows ignorance on your part. I don't need confirmation from you to run what I want on my phone I didn't ask for help with that. So far you haven't contributed anything to the discussion, all you've done is argue with other people tastes. Are you sure you should be here?
Kingfish907 said:
I'm really disappointed with 5.0 lollipop update for my LG, just looks the same as kitkat, hardly any material design.
I like what Samsung as done with their lollipop update tho, would nice to see LG do the same
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of course it is CRAP .. been said 5.0 is FAIL .. that is why 5.0.1 released..
cannot be flashed with TWRP easily .. xposed not working... tweakbox not working.. nothing .. not even possibility to select 2G network only ! only 3G 4G .. crap

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