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Hello all. The same people that opened up the Athena device, worked out numerous unlockers for many many devices and are now working on the newly released Polaris device are offering up our team and skills. Only problem is we have no devices to develop on. What we did on the Athena project was raise enough money from donations for 4 devices. There was an overwhelming response and the results were a fully unlocked device and customized ROMs. We also took it a step further and made things possible that were not in the original release of the device. If you guys are interested we can start-up a similar project. Up to you guys, the community.
Of course it's not necessary to start up such a project. I'm sure a developer will eventually purchase a device and do something with it. Time will tell.
Goals of proposed project:
- Unlock device
- Expand WM6 capabilities
- Remove as many limitations on device as possible
- IF possible, add phone and GPS capabilities
- Cooked ROMs
Hey Itxda,
I'm currently trying to get a job around the Shift .. but I have to wait for septembre (if the project is not refused) and in this case, I could make a Master Thesis upon the Shift and many abilities that comes with it.
I'm trying to get the shift the soonest as possible and as soon as I will have it, I will start developing the most I can (Cooked ROMs, Expand WM6 capabilities are the MOST important for me).
I'd love to work with XDA developers but as I'm from Belgium it is not currently easy .. and I don't even know if the Shift is "really" released here.
What can be "nice" should be a collaboration between Shift users and XDA developers. I think that Expand WM6 is the first goal to reach .. and I'm sure that we will find how to get FULL WM6 !
seems that Expand WM6 capabailities are OK now YESSSSSSSS
pls. let me know how can I turn it too full WM6system. I bought Htc Shift. and after then I found, it has no full WM6 system? Why? pls help me. I am biginner in system and registry problem, pls write it step by step. thx.
p.s. i am very glad, super device.
koala996 said:
Hey Itxda,
I'm currently trying to get a job around the Shift .. but I have to wait for septembre (if the project is not refused) and in this case, I could make a Master Thesis upon the Shift and many abilities that comes with it.
I'm trying to get the shift the soonest as possible and as soon as I will have it, I will start developing the most I can (Cooked ROMs, Expand WM6 capabilities are the MOST important for me).
I'd love to work with XDA developers but as I'm from Belgium it is not currently easy .. and I don't even know if the Shift is "really" released here.
What can be "nice" should be a collaboration between Shift users and XDA developers. I think that Expand WM6 is the first goal to reach .. and I'm sure that we will find how to get FULL WM6 !
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Thanks for your response.
That's basically how we all did it on the Athena Project. Established a few goals, outlined the details then kicked some butt.
The Athena, being the monster she is...now runs more stable, faster and has the latest and greatest. You guys might want to look over at the Athena forum to see how the project did. We started at v1.0. Everyone loved it. Went on to 2.0 and 3.0. Now we're working on 4.0 which is going to be a nice surprise for everyone.
We'll see if anyone else is interested. For now I'm more than happy with my Athena but if people want to move forward we can get things going. Just want to know if it's something that's wanted.
Shift is a nice toy but damn HTC for what they did to the WM side. I have no idea what they were thinking here.
nemeth said:
pls. let me know how can I turn it too full WM6system. I bought Htc Shift. and after then I found, it has no full WM6 system? Why? pls help me. I am biginner in system and registry problem, pls write it step by step. thx.
p.s. i am very glad, super device.
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I wish I could just give you the how-to but it's not that simple. HTC did some pretty nasty things within this wonderful device and it'll take some serious hacking around and time to get things unlocked then working. We're not sure what the extent is, yet, to the full capabilities but if the community wants to move forward with the project, we can setup a PayPal account to start the donations and essentially repeat the enormous success accomplished under the Athena project.
Like I said, IF it's even possible...our team can get it done. Just another toy that needs to be shaped into a work of art
O.K. I would like. pls do it. thnx.
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O.K. I would like. pls do it. thnx.
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Ok, that's two yes answers. Let's see what others have to say. Be back later, stepping out.
personally i think the shift is just begging to be hacked! i'm part of the athena project and would help in shift project too.
now that it's revealed how to access \Windows and file explorer, the next step will be creating a virtual USB connection to the vista side (this is possible!), then you can use activesync and can flash roms too, and we (with Olipro) can make hard-SPL and even simunlocker if there is a simlocked version of the shift.
the WM side of course needs a properly cooked rom, put the functionality and apps back and customizations. and of course we need to enable lots of hardware, i'm sure at least part of that can be managed (from SD and wifi to phone and GPS).
i can't wait to start hacking on this but first a device is needed.
im all for it as well
Count me in
I am in, let's do it!
nice. i'll happily cook everyone a good custom for for the shift like i did for the athena. watch the athena space for the 4.0 release. u'll definalty want that on ur shift.
from what i seen in the test roms, gps and phone shouldnt be too hard to get back. wifi just might be a bit harder. the antenna and all seem to be there as the test roms have a gps tool
Yes!
Yes, do it, cook the little bugger!
tell us where to donate for the shift project and i will
cheers, steve
tell us where to donate for the shift project
Big donate For italian lenguage!!!!
count me in financially ...
So far all positive feedback but there are hundreds of more users on this forum so we really need to hear back from the community.
We'll be finalizing Athena Project 4.0 soon so the timing is perfect.
The immediate core team members will be:
ltxda (myself of course)
Olipro
Cmonex
PK
Other members will be recruited as the need arises. We would also need two existing forum members with experience and good testing skills for when the ROM is beta quality to help test and work out any kinks.
Ok, i'm in. I can't help financially until i've paid off my Shift, but I'm up for any testing that needs doing.
Edit - I just donated.
Shift Project now accepting donations...
I setup a link on my signature for the Shift Project.
Remember, we're going to need the entire community to pitch in here to make this as successful as the Athena Project.
If we end up without the necessary donations we will just refund the money from the project. I hope that doesn't happen...never had to do a mass refund before...I wonder how long that would take. LOL
The good thing about this forum it's based on users like me...those that like the high end toys and don't mind playing a bit ;-)
We must wait the AOSP stable release of Android 2.2 Froyo. After, we can start.
Official site out now: Yogurt official site
Visit the official site for all news and informations about this project.
News:
19/06: The FRF72 Froyo Beta is out for the Nexus One.
19/06: New changes on the site by Sherry123.
18/06: +500 visitors on the official site. Thanks everybody.
i think it s a very GOOD idea !!!
every body work on 2.1 , but if every one goes on this idea , i think we can try froyo
a unique and comon good rom
but is every developer are going to work in a same and good rom ???? that is the question
they all have a good experience in 2.1 so why not a 2.2 ..... now
As far as I can tell this is allready happening with the abyzou rom. I recon 5-6 ppl are working on it, or atleast they have been.
2.1 that is, and so far it works perfectly with the exception of the camera, being worked on though
I can help make web.
where have u seen many artists painting one peace of art?
Programming is like an art! Everyone have it own style! I doubt it would be possible to make such a team, as everyone would like to put something from his own in it, while other one wouldn't like it!
Some developer can help other, like someone could help abyzou rom to get camera and sens! Then the person who helped could use working camera/sens for his own rom.
i can be one of your testers and if i've time i can try to study something to let it work on froyo
Work in such kind of things in teams its very hard if there is no leadder,no competiton and more than 2 or 3 people.
Frist of all the leadder has to set the objectives and asign each team member a work.
As i can see in the forum there is a big
cooperative spirit and i can asume than all of you visit tattoo forums frok your contries.
We are a lot of people.
We need someone to lead all of us, someone testing, programming or weathever...
But for teamworking is better to own a laedder.
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Work in such kind of things in teams its very hard if there is no leadder,no competiton and more than 2 or 3 people.
Frist of all the leadder has to set the objectives and asign each team member a work.
As i can see in the forum there is a big
cooperative spirit and i can asume than all of you visit tattoo forums frok your contries.
We are a lot of people.
We need someone to lead all of us, someone testing, programming or weathever...
But for teamworking is better to own a laedder.
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I agree.
I will make team for making colaborative ROM. Just create the rules.
i'm here
ikxdf has just made a 2.1 nearly completely functional. Support him now and then we all could work on a 2.2 porting
I m ok for testing every thing
got tattoo and teamviewer for help ........
can format for windows or ubuntu ......
with froyo , we could have google earth on tattoo lol !!! nice
I can be the "leader", but i don't want to give orders.
But, i think the ROM must be basic...
Basic, i want to say no more apps installed (as Twitter, ...) just, basic apps.
Then, i think we cam make a team with a lot of developers even if each developer has his way of...
The Tattoo community is welded, i'm sure of that.
But everyone must play a whole...
What do you think honestly about that?
I'll modify first post if people are ok for try this big project...
I m ok for that
i have not lot "competences" but can help with the few one ......
so we got a leadder (gabsx23)
i thnik that your mission is give peaople work to do.
and fix the priority objectives, a kind of primary mission.
as the itilian developers team (alberto, ikxdf ... you know them all) is finish right now the eclair version (its awesome guys) i would focus on froyo...
i propose as primmary mission to do a bootable version of froyo...
what dou you think guys?
and gabsx ,it would be great to start with creating a froyo rom post start as soon as possible in a tiddy way.
(im sorry for my bad english...)
well dudes... lets start.
will you start from N1 update.zip?
We can but it's not the good release...
The good version of Froyo coming soon (Google say ^^).
But we can start with an other 2.2 official ROM and wait.
I just want already to make a good team for preparing that.
Do you think is it a good idea?
Yes, why do the job 2 times? better waiting for the "real" stable version..
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Yes, why do the job 2 times? better waiting for the "real" stable version..
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Yes i think too
Would like to help, but why don't you wait until the froyo source comes out??
For already create and prepare a team for develop directly a good ROM with many people who want stable Froyo on Tattoo...
I don't know if you understand me? lol
Dear Fellow X2 Users,
I have been reading through all main sections (there are only 3 lol) of the X2 subforums and cannot help noticing how much more threads/sections and more importantly more development is being done on the older Xperia X1.
For me I see this as ironic that an older model is being tweaked more when internally they both have similar hardware.
I would summarize the X2 as a well designed device on the outside with a bad software system. We have gotten as far as getting rid of the junk that SE has put as "wrappers" to give it some eye-candy. We have made it usable and we have made the battery last longer. I am a programmer who believes that anything is possible if we use what is availabe to make amazing solutions.
Looking at windows mobile 7 although it promises fancy games and fancy social connectivity I do not think many professionals will consider those as useful. So I do not think the Xperia X2 is dead. I think it is like Knight Rider's car without Kit installed yet!
To the point (finally! I hear some of you say) why not make a team just like the htc developers have and work on some alternatives to minimal X2(skip default cabs) and bugged X2(default)? If we cannot cook roms, I say make some custom set of cabs that get the job done. I see so many good cabs in the forums: fm radios, handwriting recognition (kudos to fadi.b), the multifix cab, and an overclocking cab that boosts speed to 1000Mhz! (in some cases) and so many other I can't remember at the moment. We need to combine what we have into something better than the original X2 software.
I know I have not participated in these forums much, but believe me I have played around with the X2 just like the rest of you. I am asking for a concerted developmenteffort so we can solve the many issues mentioned by the X2 community.
Why not have development sections? A WinMo section is definitely a must.
Or an Android section like X1? A features request sticky inside these too would be good for everyone. We have to share some crucial information so a thread for this is important as well, e.g. keymappings, APIs, etc.
It is my hope that after reading this more people will try to approach the challenge of customizing the X2 in a more organized and successful way. Instead of deciding who should start, I think we should focus on how we ourselves can make it work!
To the Forum Mods: I have placed this in general section because imo it regards X2 as a whole and not specifically for ROM development or apps, rather a combination of both.
Totally agree with you!
I am agreed with you.
Please any programmer or developer contribute your specialist and skill here.
But,I am noobs with the software programmer...
I think we should make a new thread and see how many people would be willing
to put some money to offer the developer of the Hard-Slp.
i hope !!!!
Guys check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716798
I also agree with you.
Please developers must take initiative to make x2 successfull.
im with you too guys, but i know that most developers prefer htc phones over other phones so you see many great stuff in htc forums ... so i thing a big motive for developers is to make abouny for hard spl and this will really attract developers ... sorry for my bad english
This is HTC hardware.
Second,i will donate or pay for any hardspl that would make this thing usable.
I do not have enough time to devote into "modding" ripping the software until i come out with an usable x2,so i would gladly pay to get something to put on this usefull 500$ phone.
I think that like me are many users that would give to say at least 10-20 euro for something to make this crap work better.
Kind regards to all and i'm still hoping to see something done for my X2.
mrqro said:
This is HTC hardware.
Second,i will donate or pay for any hardspl that would make this thing usable.
I do not have enough time to devote into "modding" ripping the software until i come out with an usable x2,so i would gladly pay to get something to put on this usefull 500$ phone.
I think that like me are many users that would give to say at least 10-20 euro for something to make this crap work better.
Kind regards to all and i'm still hoping to see something done for my X2.
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It is not HTC hardware.
Hi hi! Sorry for falling off the edge of the internet platform! (was busy ).
Good news! Got myself a new X2 hehehe. Yes am serious about getting this from piece of mediocre communication device to at least X1 status!
K, I will summarize what is required to develop applications for the X2 and Windows Mobile phones in general:
1. Development Environment to make programs: Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 or Sharp Develop IDE. Search on Google to find more
2. HEX Editor to analyze/break apart data: No idea yet! Still searching for an updated one. Maybe Hex Workshop. Got an old version of that somewhere.
3. Registry Editor: CeRegistryEditor, Awesome registry editor for playing around with registry key settings. It uses ActiveSync and you change settings on your computer.
Will update this list when I find out or remember more items.
Good day to you all and please, don't give up!
hafirangi said:
Guys check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716798
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I have come across this some time ago and it is what I mentioned in my first post about a minimalist X2 (no unnecessary things). I have been there and although it is nice to have a phone that works I would like a phone that works AND looks and works beautiful!
Hope you see what I see now ^^. Not iPhone killer lol, just something better than what we have now.
Hello friends, developers and users, i dont think i have got the permission to even ask this of u but still have gathered my courage.
This time i am speaking for the MMX A110 community,although this is the Samsung S4 community and i shouldn't post it here
Our device can run CM10.1 but we do not have the kernal sources.
So i humbly ask of u to please help us by signing this petition:
https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/micromax-informatics-ltd-
MMX is not like Samsung and doesnt even release their kernal, but the A110 is a good device and i wish to help the developers in anyway i can even if by begging
I will post this in Xperia and HTC device threads also but Samsung is a large community and we would like ur help. Thank U for listening to me.
Who am I to say all this?
Just a kid with brain full of ideas and simple dream to make device better than manufacturers stock rom
Why am I posting it here?
Becoz this way interaction between the developers and users of diffrent community will be more and we will help everyone that way and in the end our devices will benefit better from it.
Thanks for hearing me out but still i beg u to just sign it
Hi guys...
We all saw what Sony policy to release new flagship device every six months did for development - basically - it screwed us.
Our main developers spread on XDA and future development for many devices could be very slow...
Also, we saw what happened with Xperia Z3 development, Z3 is great device but without best developers, themers or supporters there won't be custom ROMs, themes or MODs designed for it.
I talked to @niaboc79 and @serajr and offered some help.
My plan is to open on bounty thread, not for root, not for ROMs, themes or anything specifically...but to keep those two wizards in our team.
That way we'll get all the things I mentioned above.
The idea is to raise money or to be precise, donate money to Niaboc paypal account and support them.
That money will be for next Xperia devices, most likely called Xperia Z4. (two devices, one for Niaboc and one for Serajr).
This way we could be 100% sure we'll have best Xperia developers for the future.
If someone thinks we are doing a favor to them - think again.
ROM developing and MODs developing (Xposed modules) developing aren't easy and takes a lot of free time and we should be thankful and happy to have opportunity to keep those guys near.
XDA has changed, we aren't team anymore and that's not good...
But I believe we still have great guys here who knows what we are getting with this.
It's absolutely not important would you donate 1$ or 100$, what's important is your support.
We have hundreds, maybe even thousands of Xperia users who are planning to upgrade their device to Z4 and if we all support this idea and donate few bucks - we'll achieve our goal.
As I said, donation account will be Niaboc paypal account.
And I'm asking him to keep tracks about donations and post them here.
Thank you all for support!
I'm 100% sure we can do this and I'm 100% sure we are doing great thing.
If you are using Xperia Xposed by Serajr or eXistenZ or Xperia (no matter which one) you'll know I'm right
We all know who is Niaboc and who is Serajr, if you have any questions or what to ask them something (thread related) - I'm sure they'll response quickly.
@niaboc79 and @serajr
Could you please tell few words and confirm you are accepting this.
Thank you all.... And long live Xperia
We'll need all the resources in the future, among everything else - rooting method/exploit holes will be extremely hard to find and we need every help we can find.
I'll donate 40$ tomorrow, I hope there'll be many of us who'll join me...
Please, send your donations to Paypay account:
[email protected]
We'll keep tracks here, not to show who donate more but to say thank you to all who helped...
DONATIONS
@funky0308 - 30$
@lagania - 1$
TOTAL:
= 31$
You don't know who those two guys are?
Well, you are probably new Xperia users - so welcome to Xperia family.
Click on this @niaboc79 or watch this video (it's not latest but you'll get the picture who is this magician)
Sony Xperia Z3 ROM On Sony Xperia Z2 - eXistenz R…: http://youtu.be/G1JAzjQ0yM0
Same goes for @serajr
Watch this video and you'll understand why we are supporting this guy as well.
Serajr Xperia Xposed - Z3 Home "Hide Apps Drawer"…: http://youtu.be/SwtWSVOu0vc
This is just one of millions functions in this fantastic Xposed module.
I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
Totally agree!
It's just an honor for me to be remembered! Thank you so much buddy... you're amazing!
As I told you before and now again I confirm... whatever the outcome, all of you will have my full support, as I have always done in recent years.
And if xposed do not reach lollipop, things will be put into practice with oldschool modding method... smali editing!!
Long live Xperia development!
moman2000 said:
I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
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It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
We are a community, that means that we must help others.
Serajr and me are working hard to bring you as much as we can but we need devices to work on.
The Xperia users doesn't have many developpers because Sony phones aren't as popular as Samsung or HTC.
I am motivated to keep supporting you so if all users are giving us even a few bucks we will be able to buy devices and work for you
Thanks
Cheers
funky0308 said:
It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
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Thx, that means alot to me.
Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
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Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
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True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
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True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
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Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
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Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
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In which case bring [NUT] he is someone who can create recoveries for locked bootloader
Im mostly trying to get on the Z4 development bandwagon because i want to learn and contribute, Even though it isnt what your looking for it still helps those who you may not, Xperias always have strong LB support anyways, Xperia S and Z2 are examples i know very well and Xperia S didnt have any of this bounty stuff, it came along with time
Where doomlord usualy provides the first recovery and root methods ill try to since he is so busy and ive found life is hard when no one is there to do the work you cant do.
As for anything else with Z4 ill try to port multi-rom if Myself5 or Oliver wants to help however im not a dev nor a great dev but itll happen with time and patience
Also need i remind you that Xperia Z4 will most likely be releasing with Lollipop so even LB stuff will be hard, you would have to hotboot a recovery just to flash supersu and im not even sure if that can be done on locked bootloader and we definatly do need somone who can find and exploit if this is the case
We may be able to use adb to root but ill have to see on how adb acts in the situations i put it in.
I know you know of my capabilities with LB once i have recovery access @funky0308
Edit- if anyone @[NUT] is important for LB support
Grt initiation @funky0308. I see this is a good opportunity to bring devs to z4.. I have to agree on @Envious_Data on one thing.. Devs like NUT, Olivier, Myself5 are important to be on the list coz first thing, any user on xda will be needing root(lb), a recovery for lb, and custom roms for ub(cm/aosp) and ofc stock based roms.. I am not against niaboc or serajr.. They are grt devs n i am a big fan of their work.. I'm just trying to expand the list since we would be needing more devs in Z4.. I wish i could be any help in donating, but i am still a student. But atleast i hope we can contribute as a community and preserve good devs on xperia.. I remember a lot of good devs moving to sammy/htc.. One such example was letama.. You all remember him.. I suggest adding a few more devs like the ones i mentioned above to the list so that we can improve development.. Again, its just my opinion.. Peace..
I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
Just check all bounties we had - we were struggling to raise money for two devices (and we failed, Niaboc had to add 60-70% to buy Z2)
I would like to have 10 000$ and to be able to buy device for everyone.
If we expand this list to ten names we won't do anything.
Who wants to support this - support, who don't want - just don't...
We have many great devs and contributors, it's impossible to add them all.
I know who is NUT, I know who is doom but if we want to be fair - we'll need someone as @jcase to find exploit in firmware.
For now, Z4 isn't even announced, so please, if you want to support our devs - support them.
It's ridiculous to talk about firmware which isn't announced yet...
We don't know what should we expect...and that's not subject of this thread.
I don't want to buy anything i just want to support guys who gave so much in last few years.
Even if they don't do a single thing on a next Xperia I still want to say tnx.
That's the purpose of this thread not to buy developer who will work 8 hour shift for us.
I said that in OP, this isn't root bounty, it's not ROM developing bounty or anything similar.
It's thread where we can show our appreciation to guys who work on Xperia devices and did amazing things...
So please, please, please....stop doing this - donate few bucks if you can...
This isn't true XDA spirit guys, we shouldn't buy developers, this isn't market..
We are supporting our developers no matter what, we are helping them to buy new device and we are trying to keep them near us.
That way they'll develop and we'll all have something from that.
Thanks
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I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
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Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
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Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
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Mate, please tell me, or show me when doom find exploit and rooted LB Xperia.
Do same for NUT please.
NUT is great guy but he was using phils and dooms work.
He did awesome things, just like doom but jcase did what you are talking about, not doom, nor NUT.
We'll see what will happen.
This is thanks thread to guys who did fantastic job.
Number of tnx on latest ROM by Niaboc and lateat Xposed module by Serajr said everything.
We will need many developers here, that's true.
So donate 40-50$ and lets expand this list.
I will donate today and I'm perfectly fine with list expand but lets show we are really on this.
When this bounty shows 500-600$ we can talk further...
It's easy to write names but I haven't seen a single dollar to confirm your statement.
We need devs...yes, we need them, show that, don't only write names.
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We'll see what will happen.
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Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
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Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
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As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
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As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
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This may be planning way far ahead but im going to be buying a new device in a year and a half and i was thinking of creating a bounty list to atleast get [NUT] just because its not easy at all making recoveries for LB
Good idea @funky0308.. We should expand the list after we get more donations.. I agree wit u.. :thumbup: