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Sony 'unconcerned' by low Xperia Play PSone game sales
Sony has said it's unconcerned by low initial sales of PSone games on Xperia Play.
Each of the five original PlayStation games available for the phone on Android Marketplace have shifted under 1,000 units since launching in early April. Here are the sales totals, courtesy of PlayStation LifeStyle:
Cool Boarders 2: 100-500
Destruction Derby: 500-1,000
Jumping Flash: 50-100
MediEvil: 100-500
Syphon Filter: 100-500
Despite the underwhelming numbers, Sony Ericsson head of market development Dominic Neil-Dwyer told the site Xperia Play was "shaking up" the mobile sector.
"I think there's also an awareness thing for people that are getting their hands on the device and where they are choosing to purchase games," he said. "There's only a few, at the minute, PlayStation One titles there, and there's more coming on a regular basis, and there's the whole PlayStation as a content provider exclusive to the device, the story about that, that will emerge and people will see.
"So, there's no concerns, it's a revolutionary device, it's shaking up the market, we're very pleased with it. In terms of getting the PlayStation Certified program out, generally, we're very happy. I think we'll make a full assessment of if it has achieved our expectations fully, further down the line, so we're very happy."
Xperia Play will be available on the O2 network (UK) in "early June", the service provider confirmed yesterday. While the device has already released on other major UK phone networks, O2 put off its own launch in light of unspecified bugs it identified with the hardware.
Sony Ericsson UK marketing boss David Hilton told CVG last month that the firm's planning to woo developers to bring a new type of PlayStation exclusive to market in the coming months - freezing out the likes of iPhone to release mobile titles only on its Xperia Play.
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Any thoughts? isn't the Xperia Play selling very well in general? (anyone got any sales figures?) or do people prefer FPSE? or maybe the titles are too expensive?
Them games were medicore at their original release IMO. Wait for the US release, throw up some top class games like MGS or FF7 and it will be a different story. Saying that I already own most of the PS1 games I want to play in either disc or PSN form so I'll probably stick to FPSE rather than buying again.
Had no idea you could vet them in marketplace. Never seen them there
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Had no idea you could vet them in marketplace. Never seen them there
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Launch the playstation app and press the search button
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Their cost has been making an emulator and ripping the ROMs. Of course they are unconcerned with low sales, they didn't invest any serious sum of money.
The phone is selling well, but the PS1 games aren't. Most people are buying the Gameloft/Xperia Play designed games.
It's not much to worry about, i'll explain why.
Mainstream consoles normally get sold for extremely low profit. I believe the 360 and PS3 were even being sold at a loss. M$ and Sony make their money from the games. This makes for extremely cheap hardware. The Xperia Play, and mobile phones in general are not subsidised by games or software. You pay what the hardware is worth. Even if they sold 0 games, SE are still in a healthy position.
I deleted my playstation pocket app and play all the PS1 games on fpse. I would think most people are doing the same.
The Play needs a batch of original games. It has the power of a PS2+ on native games. Look at the graphics on backstab, they are incredible for a mobile phone. PS1 emulated games do not show off the Xperia Play all that well anyway.
I'm going with dsswoosh here, I think ps1 games are mostly good for marketing then anything else. On most consoles/handhelds backwards compatability is a thing used in marketing at the release of new devices but gets neglected later on as only a few people actually care for it (the ps3 got away with removing it in newer versions and nobody really cares that the x360 doesn't support al the original xbox games and a lot of wii owners don't even know they can play gamecube games on it).
Probably some major titles will be released around tactical data (US release or when competitors bring out something new or when the playstation suite comes to tegra 2 devices for example).
dsswoosh said:
The phone is selling well, but the PS1 games aren't. Most people are buying the Gameloft/Xperia Play designed games.
It's not much to worry about, i'll explain why.
Mainstream consoles normally get sold for extremely low profit. I believe the 360 and PS3 were even being sold at a loss. M$ and Sony make their money from the games. This makes for extremely cheap hardware. The Xperia Play, and mobile phones in general are not subsidised by games or software. You pay what the hardware is worth. Even if they sold 0 games, SE are still in a healthy position.
I deleted my playstation pocket app and play all the PS1 games on fpse. I would think most people are doing the same.
The Play needs a batch of original games. It has the power of a PS2+ on native games. Look at the graphics on backstab, they are incredible for a mobile phone. PS1 emulated games do not show off the Xperia Play all that well anyway.
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dsswoosh is right. if people want to play old games, they'll get their own emulator and play it for free.
there has been a lot of very very bad journalism out there though (if you can call it journalism). rather than reporting that ps1 game sales are low, many are simply saying xperia play game sales are horrible.
i read many interviews with game developers and companies like gameloft are saying xperia play game sales are only second to iphone. the overall android game development landscape is no where as strong as the ios but most of the bigger android players happily add xperia play gamepad support b/c it's easy and brings in additonal revenue with little additional work.
Hi all,
It's finally happening guys, we will be getting ps games on our already amazing gaming device the xperia play!
Here is the List of the 25 games on the Playstation Store for PS Certified devices ( Sony new tablets - PS Vita - Xperia play) :
-- Arc the Lad
-- Addie’s Present
-- Alundra
-- Gunner’s Heaven
-- Ganbare Morikawa-kun 2nd
-- Crime Crackers
-- Crash Bandicoot
-- Jet Moto
-- Tiny Bullets
-- Destruction Derby
-- Docchimo Mechamecha
-- Bealphareth
-- PoPoLoCrois
-- Magical Dice Kids
-- Everybody’s Golf 2
-- MediEvil
-- Rally Cross
-- Wild Arms
-- Wild Arms 2nd Ignition
-- DEPTH
-- KulaQuest
-- I.Q Intelligent Qube
-- Jumping Flash
-- PHILOSOMA
-- XI[sai]
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHLAfRztF0k&feature=player_embedded
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/1...ices-detailed-watch-the-ps-suite-tgs-keynote/
I had just opened a thread in the Apps and Themes forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1268796
It seems to be a nice roster, filled with good old RPG's to the brim (Arc the Lad, Alundra, Popolocrois, Wild Arms...) Just what we were asking for.
I wonder if they're still going to use the native 1.0.1 emulator. Or an improved one.
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I had just opened a thread in the Apps and Themes forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1268796
It seems to be a nice roster, filled with good old RPG's to the brim (Arc the Lad, Alundra, Popolocrois, Wild Arms...) Just what we were asking for.
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This is huge
We bought this device because it was a great android smatphone that provided us with the best gaming experience due to it's physical buttons, and now look what we've got!!
I mean this totally changes everything. People always dreamed of a real psp phone! And it's finally happening
Actually it isn't, I got mislead by Popolocrois. It's orignally a PSX game, but since it only got released outside of Japan in its PSP version, I thought it was a PSP title.
Sounds like a step in the right direction
This news is great, funny though, I couldn't tell if your wan was saying PS 3 SDK or PS Suite SDK, lololol!
I think they will release PSP Ports to us in the future.
Hmmm, definitely a step in the right direction, although a few of those games are already available on the Android store, and I haven't even heard of a handful of them (I'd have trouble even pronouncing the titles ), and some are obviously original titles. The linked article also suggests that these titles are for the Japanese market so the list may change when it's released everywhere else...we could get different games or we might just get a truncated list.
But I mean Magical Dice Kids? Really?
I think in the next round of updates it's time they brought some more well-known PSX titles to the market...stuff like ridge racer or gran turismo, some final fantasy titles, twisted metal, tekken, metal gear, god of war...they need to bring out some more Playstation recognisable titles for these Playstation certified devices. I'm not convinced people are buying these devices to play games like I.Q Intelligent Qube. They sound like games you'd buy for a DS, not a PS device.
This is a good start but the next step in what titles are released will be crucial. New games also need to be coming in regularly.
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Hmmm, definitely a step in the right direction, although a few of those games are already available on the Android store, and I haven't even heard of a handful of them (I'd have trouble even pronouncing the titles ), and some are obviously original titles. The linked article also suggests that these titles are for the Japanese market so the list may change when it's released everywhere else...we could get different games or we might just get a truncated list.
But I mean Magical Dice Kids? Really?
I think in the next round of updates it's time they brought some more well-known PSX titles to the market...stuff like ridge racer or gran turismo, some final fantasy titles, twisted metal, tekken, metal gear, god of war...they need to bring out some more Playstation recognisable titles for these Playstation certified devices. I'm not convinced people are buying these devices to play games like I.Q Intelligent Qube. They sound like games you'd buy for a DS, not a PS device.
This is a good start but the next step in what titles are released will be crucial. New games also need to be coming in regularly.
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Dude you have some strong points here, however, what's making me really positive about this whole thing is that the xperia play and the PS Vita will have access to the same store! Which means the future of the play is bright because we know as a fact that Sony will keep pushing great games for the Vita and since that's the case this means that both Sony and Sony Ericsson will keep optimising this device. While SE will keep updating the regular android software, hopefully till icecream. Sony on the other hand will keep working on bringing new games to the market + the fact that a lot of android games are being optimised for the play lately.
This device has huge potential and a brighter future. I seriously consider it one of the best android devices you could get today, it's a great package of both multimedia and gaming.
I don't regret for one second choosing the play over all these dual core phones which will be missing all the fun we play owners will have just to brag about a processor that's still not using it's full potentiol due to the lack of software support.
Cheers
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Dude you have some strong points here, however, what's making me really positive about this whole thing is that the xperia play and the PS Vita will have access to the same store! Which means the future of the play is bright because we know as a fact that Sony will keep pushing great games for the Vita and since that's the case this means that both Sony and Sony Ericsson will keep optimising this device. While SE will keep updating the regular android software, hopefully till icecream. Sony on the other hand will keep working on bringing new games to the market + the fact that a lot of android games are being optimised for the play lately.
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Thing is due to hardware differences between the Play and the Vita we'll no doubt see games come out for the Vita that don't make it to the Play. That's what I'm a bit worried about. My point still stands that they need to get their arses into gear and release more recognisable Playstation games, and on a regular basis, for this service to have any hope of being remotely successful.
Still, a good point.
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Thing is due to hardware differences between the Play and the Vita we'll no doubt see games come out for the Vita that don't make it to the Play. That's what I'm a bit worried about. My point still stands that they need to get their arses into gear and release more recognisable Playstation games, and on a regular basis, for this service to have any hope of being remotely successful.
Still, a good point.
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id have thought the vita would also use the PSN and theres already 50 plus psone games on there for it.
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id have thought the vita would also use the PSN and theres already 50 plus psone games on there for it.
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Only time will tell how great the PS store for the xperia play store will really be! What makes me optimistic though is that since Sony included the play with their collection ( tablets + Vita) this for me is a very good sign that they will take care of it.
Fingers crossed
Sony buys Gaikai for £242 million and gains a strong foundation for their own cloud based gaming proposition.
So if you have not read in the news already, Sony have indeed bought the north America based brand for them sleves. £242 million is a lot of money but only a fraction of what some of it's competitors like OnLive are valued at. Which is why a lot of analysts are claiming this to be an absolute bargain for Sony.
To be totally honest, I was unaware that this brand even existed until I read the news. I think a lot of us Android gamers were initially taken in by OnLive as they have constantly supported it for Android. We have an Xperia PLAY optimised app, a Tablet S app that supports the PS3 pad and of course with the new ICS rom on Xperia S, we have it still. But there is one area that I have to say is let down by OnLive and that is lack of choice for high end titles. Having done my research on Gaikai (pronounced Guy-kay), you will see they offer some beefy titles like: Fifa, Mass Effect 3, Rainbow Six, Dead Space and even the Sims3.
So what could Sony be planning?
It will be a long time before we see anything starting to appear on Sony hardware or even the Xperia products if they do. Frankly I beleive that this will be like their entertainment network offerings like Music and Video Unlimited. Perhaps branding it Playstation Unlimited is a bit unlikely but a cool pet name for the time being nonetheless. It will be available to download for non Sony devices like iPhones and Samsungs too and might even be a subscription based service. This theory would tie in with their strategy for Playstation Mobile, it's a revenue stream for them even if you dont have a Sony product. But hopefully there will be some opimisation for the PS Vita and Xperia PLAY devices, who knows by the time it comes to market, there might even be a PLAY 2.
A lot of other people are expecting this to tie in with the launch of the Playstation 4 product later in 2013. Which could be very likely but when do Sony ever release stuff on time. I'm not being harsh at all, I love sony, it's just they are so bad with delays and stuff that I wish to remain pessimistic for now. However that doesn't mean to say it will be limited to the PS4, as cloud based gaming can run on any device that has a processor supporting a H.264 decoder. Which even includes todays entry level phones, TV's and tablets. Like OnLive it will be playable almost everywhere.
The only potential issue which we need to keep our ears to the ground, is how will Playstation games be integrated into this? For those of you that don't know the gory tech talk behind game platforms, I shall explain very briefly. Playstation games are developed for Playstation hardware, it is a different language and set of hardware to what is used by PC's. PC's use intel based processors and NVidia graphics and this is the tech behind the GaiKai servers. Meaning that Playstation games designed on different hardware will have to be run on different servers or emulated somehow to work on the Gaikai servers for playing back. This could be very expensive for Sony as all of their new hardware like Vita, run on AMD processors. However they work this out, let's hope that a better selection of the back catalog is available than we current have with PS Store.
So the big question is now. Do we all jump ship from OnLive? It is rumored that Microsoft are looking to purchase OnLive for themselves. Perhaps not, perhaps the greatest thing about Android is that you can have the best of all worlds. Including decades of retro gaming with emulators. As we are not an official Sony Mobile website and are impartial, we can pick and chose to have whatever service we want here. Maybe we will add a Gaikai section next to Onlive. Who knows, but we have a long time to wait to find out these answers. Anything could happen between now and then but rest assured knowing that we'll bring you the important updates on this when anything emmerges.
Article Source: http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/son...nd-gaikai.html
sorry, but most probably it will not be for the play... The Xperia Play had been abandoned since some months (Since the cancellation of ICS update, i think)
Sony gave up on us, friend. We would have ICS but they have to herp derp about it. "It's a gaming phone. Blah blah."
I don't care that sony bought Gaikai. I think that they will be using it so you can get "instant" downloads of games: You download a game and it takes a few hours and in the mean while you get to play the game on a Gaika
i'm checking the internet , every day , to find a news about xperia play 2
this one was just copy n paste http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/sony-buys-cloud-gaming-brand-gaikai.html
nice
totally , i'm still waiting for xperia play 2 and surely , i'll buy that , for any price.
Big announcement from Xaomi on Google Search saying it may be a new game console? With the rumored Xaomi/Ouya partnership could this be the Ouya 2??
Ouya does deserve some credit. How many companies can claim 1000+ games barring Sony or Microsoft? Grated they are not all top notch games nor should they be. Ouya started as a platform for inspiring game developers and indie players which in my opinion they have done? I know the developers be it a good or bad game spent countless hours putting those games on Ouya? I should think any hardcore gamer should embrace and support taking games back to its roots. Lately Ouya has stepped up to the plate making improvements to its OS and is still adding new games regardless of the bad press?
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/xiaomi-teases-launch-of-gaming-product-at-tuesday-event-650719
Unfortunately, Alibaba funds OUYA instead of xiaomi
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Unfortunately, Alibaba funds OUYA instead of xiaomi
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I thought Ouya still had a agreement with Xiaomi is this no longer the case?
they have an agreement in place with both of them, read it on g+ the other day. I have ouya everywhere running on my rk3288 box ATM duck game tower fall and a few others run fine on it, so not bothered whether they release a new ouya tbh
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Can Ouya be called a failure? Ouya survives today and continues to grow. One Thousand plus games and more added all the time. The company is hiring. Agreements with Xiaomi and Alibaba to extend their content and financing.
I personally find my collection of games on Ouya to be a nice respite from my Ps4. Then there is the fact that this is a place where inspiring developers can publish their work never ment to compete with Sony or Microsoft. So how does this fit the definition of a Failure?
If change was put into motion, not a failure.
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Can Ouya be called a failure? Ouya survives today and continues to grow. One Thousand plus games and more added all the time. The company is hiring. Agreements with Xiaomi and Alibaba to extend their content and financing.
I personally find my collection of games on Ouya to be a nice respite from my Ps4. Then there is the fact that this is a place where inspiring developers can publish their work never ment to compete with Sony or Microsoft. So how does this fit the definition of a Failure?
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I believe to some degree a lot of individuals had a set of unrealistic goals and expectations in their minds. Ignoring all the information and facts that were presented to them. This could stem from being downplayed by premium vendors and critics . Using their negative comments to influence the easily impressionable providing a false image of a product that wasn't yet released at the time.
If people look back at it now and analyze it as a cultural and social event, I'm sure there could be many points that could be made at how this product gained momentum to an old idea that brought the possibility of change to an industry. Clearly many were opposed to the idea of change because it brought along choices and segmented control.
I believe it is still happening but the Ouya definitely put the possible change to the market in the spotlight, and made some people jump. Even if for a moment.
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I believe to some degree a lot of individuals had a set of unrealistic goals and expectations in their minds. Ignoring all the information and facts that were presented to them. This could stem from being downplayed by premium vendors and critics . Using their negative comments to influence the easily impressionable providing a false image of a product that wasn't yet released at the time.
If people look back at it now and analyze it as a cultural and social event, I'm sure there could be many points that could be made at how this product gained momentum to an old idea that brought the possibility of change to an industry. Clearly many were opposed to the idea of change because it brought along choices and segmented control.
I believe it is still happening but the Ouya definitely put the possible change to the market in the spotlight, and made some people jump. Even if for a moment.
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Well said I just always hear people bash Ouya and have to wonder if they have even owned one? Ouya could stand to be more interactive with its userbase particularly the game customers. I see a good support structure for devs but few regular gamers?
Ouya corporate needs to come out of the closet and let it's users know what is going on? I like all the recent improvements but have no news from them for the future so you sit idle month to month wondering if they are even in business? Then there is the biggest mystery of all is the current console one of a kind or will there indeed be a Ouya 2. I hope they conduct themselves better in China or they truly will be finished? Love the product but the management needs a complete house cleaning.
I hopped on Ouya late in the game and never even heard about the hype. All I know is that Kodi and Plex work great on it and I've played through a few really fun games on it. I bought it for $80. How could I or anyone be disappointed with it unless they thought it was going to be an $80 ps3 or something? Maybe I had more realistic expectations because I've been on android phones for so long, including various tegra chipsets. For what it is, I'm still mostly impressed haha.