Sony buys cloud gaming brand gaikai - Xperia Play General

Sony buys Gaikai for £242 million and gains a strong foundation for their own cloud based gaming proposition.
So if you have not read in the news already, Sony have indeed bought the north America based brand for them sleves. £242 million is a lot of money but only a fraction of what some of it's competitors like OnLive are valued at. Which is why a lot of analysts are claiming this to be an absolute bargain for Sony.
To be totally honest, I was unaware that this brand even existed until I read the news. I think a lot of us Android gamers were initially taken in by OnLive as they have constantly supported it for Android. We have an Xperia PLAY optimised app, a Tablet S app that supports the PS3 pad and of course with the new ICS rom on Xperia S, we have it still. But there is one area that I have to say is let down by OnLive and that is lack of choice for high end titles. Having done my research on Gaikai (pronounced Guy-kay), you will see they offer some beefy titles like: Fifa, Mass Effect 3, Rainbow Six, Dead Space and even the Sims3.
So what could Sony be planning?
It will be a long time before we see anything starting to appear on Sony hardware or even the Xperia products if they do. Frankly I beleive that this will be like their entertainment network offerings like Music and Video Unlimited. Perhaps branding it Playstation Unlimited is a bit unlikely but a cool pet name for the time being nonetheless. It will be available to download for non Sony devices like iPhones and Samsungs too and might even be a subscription based service. This theory would tie in with their strategy for Playstation Mobile, it's a revenue stream for them even if you dont have a Sony product. But hopefully there will be some opimisation for the PS Vita and Xperia PLAY devices, who knows by the time it comes to market, there might even be a PLAY 2.
A lot of other people are expecting this to tie in with the launch of the Playstation 4 product later in 2013. Which could be very likely but when do Sony ever release stuff on time. I'm not being harsh at all, I love sony, it's just they are so bad with delays and stuff that I wish to remain pessimistic for now. However that doesn't mean to say it will be limited to the PS4, as cloud based gaming can run on any device that has a processor supporting a H.264 decoder. Which even includes todays entry level phones, TV's and tablets. Like OnLive it will be playable almost everywhere.
The only potential issue which we need to keep our ears to the ground, is how will Playstation games be integrated into this? For those of you that don't know the gory tech talk behind game platforms, I shall explain very briefly. Playstation games are developed for Playstation hardware, it is a different language and set of hardware to what is used by PC's. PC's use intel based processors and NVidia graphics and this is the tech behind the GaiKai servers. Meaning that Playstation games designed on different hardware will have to be run on different servers or emulated somehow to work on the Gaikai servers for playing back. This could be very expensive for Sony as all of their new hardware like Vita, run on AMD processors. However they work this out, let's hope that a better selection of the back catalog is available than we current have with PS Store.
So the big question is now. Do we all jump ship from OnLive? It is rumored that Microsoft are looking to purchase OnLive for themselves. Perhaps not, perhaps the greatest thing about Android is that you can have the best of all worlds. Including decades of retro gaming with emulators. As we are not an official Sony Mobile website and are impartial, we can pick and chose to have whatever service we want here. Maybe we will add a Gaikai section next to Onlive. Who knows, but we have a long time to wait to find out these answers. Anything could happen between now and then but rest assured knowing that we'll bring you the important updates on this when anything emmerges.
Article Source: http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/son...nd-gaikai.html

sorry, but most probably it will not be for the play... The Xperia Play had been abandoned since some months (Since the cancellation of ICS update, i think)

Sony gave up on us, friend. We would have ICS but they have to herp derp about it. "It's a gaming phone. Blah blah."

I don't care that sony bought Gaikai. I think that they will be using it so you can get "instant" downloads of games: You download a game and it takes a few hours and in the mean while you get to play the game on a Gaika

i'm checking the internet , every day , to find a news about xperia play 2
this one was just copy n paste http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/sony-buys-cloud-gaming-brand-gaikai.html
nice
totally , i'm still waiting for xperia play 2 and surely , i'll buy that , for any price.

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Sony 'unconcerned' by low Xperia Play PSone game sales (News)

Sony 'unconcerned' by low Xperia Play PSone game sales
Sony has said it's unconcerned by low initial sales of PSone games on Xperia Play.
Each of the five original PlayStation games available for the phone on Android Marketplace have shifted under 1,000 units since launching in early April. Here are the sales totals, courtesy of PlayStation LifeStyle:
Cool Boarders 2: 100-500
Destruction Derby: 500-1,000
Jumping Flash: 50-100
MediEvil: 100-500
Syphon Filter: 100-500
Despite the underwhelming numbers, Sony Ericsson head of market development Dominic Neil-Dwyer told the site Xperia Play was "shaking up" the mobile sector.
"I think there's also an awareness thing for people that are getting their hands on the device and where they are choosing to purchase games," he said. "There's only a few, at the minute, PlayStation One titles there, and there's more coming on a regular basis, and there's the whole PlayStation as a content provider exclusive to the device, the story about that, that will emerge and people will see.
"So, there's no concerns, it's a revolutionary device, it's shaking up the market, we're very pleased with it. In terms of getting the PlayStation Certified program out, generally, we're very happy. I think we'll make a full assessment of if it has achieved our expectations fully, further down the line, so we're very happy."
Xperia Play will be available on the O2 network (UK) in "early June", the service provider confirmed yesterday. While the device has already released on other major UK phone networks, O2 put off its own launch in light of unspecified bugs it identified with the hardware.
Sony Ericsson UK marketing boss David Hilton told CVG last month that the firm's planning to woo developers to bring a new type of PlayStation exclusive to market in the coming months - freezing out the likes of iPhone to release mobile titles only on its Xperia Play.
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Any thoughts? isn't the Xperia Play selling very well in general? (anyone got any sales figures?) or do people prefer FPSE? or maybe the titles are too expensive?
Them games were medicore at their original release IMO. Wait for the US release, throw up some top class games like MGS or FF7 and it will be a different story. Saying that I already own most of the PS1 games I want to play in either disc or PSN form so I'll probably stick to FPSE rather than buying again.
Had no idea you could vet them in marketplace. Never seen them there
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Had no idea you could vet them in marketplace. Never seen them there
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Their cost has been making an emulator and ripping the ROMs. Of course they are unconcerned with low sales, they didn't invest any serious sum of money.
The phone is selling well, but the PS1 games aren't. Most people are buying the Gameloft/Xperia Play designed games.
It's not much to worry about, i'll explain why.
Mainstream consoles normally get sold for extremely low profit. I believe the 360 and PS3 were even being sold at a loss. M$ and Sony make their money from the games. This makes for extremely cheap hardware. The Xperia Play, and mobile phones in general are not subsidised by games or software. You pay what the hardware is worth. Even if they sold 0 games, SE are still in a healthy position.
I deleted my playstation pocket app and play all the PS1 games on fpse. I would think most people are doing the same.
The Play needs a batch of original games. It has the power of a PS2+ on native games. Look at the graphics on backstab, they are incredible for a mobile phone. PS1 emulated games do not show off the Xperia Play all that well anyway.
I'm going with dsswoosh here, I think ps1 games are mostly good for marketing then anything else. On most consoles/handhelds backwards compatability is a thing used in marketing at the release of new devices but gets neglected later on as only a few people actually care for it (the ps3 got away with removing it in newer versions and nobody really cares that the x360 doesn't support al the original xbox games and a lot of wii owners don't even know they can play gamecube games on it).
Probably some major titles will be released around tactical data (US release or when competitors bring out something new or when the playstation suite comes to tegra 2 devices for example).
dsswoosh said:
The phone is selling well, but the PS1 games aren't. Most people are buying the Gameloft/Xperia Play designed games.
It's not much to worry about, i'll explain why.
Mainstream consoles normally get sold for extremely low profit. I believe the 360 and PS3 were even being sold at a loss. M$ and Sony make their money from the games. This makes for extremely cheap hardware. The Xperia Play, and mobile phones in general are not subsidised by games or software. You pay what the hardware is worth. Even if they sold 0 games, SE are still in a healthy position.
I deleted my playstation pocket app and play all the PS1 games on fpse. I would think most people are doing the same.
The Play needs a batch of original games. It has the power of a PS2+ on native games. Look at the graphics on backstab, they are incredible for a mobile phone. PS1 emulated games do not show off the Xperia Play all that well anyway.
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dsswoosh is right. if people want to play old games, they'll get their own emulator and play it for free.
there has been a lot of very very bad journalism out there though (if you can call it journalism). rather than reporting that ps1 game sales are low, many are simply saying xperia play game sales are horrible.
i read many interviews with game developers and companies like gameloft are saying xperia play game sales are only second to iphone. the overall android game development landscape is no where as strong as the ios but most of the bigger android players happily add xperia play gamepad support b/c it's easy and brings in additonal revenue with little additional work.

First 25 games for Playstation Certified devices detailed

Hi all,
It's finally happening guys, we will be getting ps games on our already amazing gaming device the xperia play!
Here is the List of the 25 games on the Playstation Store for PS Certified devices ( Sony new tablets - PS Vita - Xperia play) :
-- Arc the Lad
-- Addie’s Present
-- Alundra
-- Gunner’s Heaven
-- Ganbare Morikawa-kun 2nd
-- Crime Crackers
-- Crash Bandicoot
-- Jet Moto
-- Tiny Bullets
-- Destruction Derby
-- Docchimo Mechamecha
-- Bealphareth
-- PoPoLoCrois
-- Magical Dice Kids
-- Everybody’s Golf 2
-- MediEvil
-- Rally Cross
-- Wild Arms
-- Wild Arms 2nd Ignition
-- DEPTH
-- KulaQuest
-- I.Q Intelligent Qube
-- Jumping Flash
-- PHILOSOMA
-- XI[sai]
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHLAfRztF0k&feature=player_embedded
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/1...ices-detailed-watch-the-ps-suite-tgs-keynote/
I had just opened a thread in the Apps and Themes forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1268796
It seems to be a nice roster, filled with good old RPG's to the brim (Arc the Lad, Alundra, Popolocrois, Wild Arms...) Just what we were asking for.
I wonder if they're still going to use the native 1.0.1 emulator. Or an improved one.
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I had just opened a thread in the Apps and Themes forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1268796
It seems to be a nice roster, filled with good old RPG's to the brim (Arc the Lad, Alundra, Popolocrois, Wild Arms...) Just what we were asking for.
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This is huge
We bought this device because it was a great android smatphone that provided us with the best gaming experience due to it's physical buttons, and now look what we've got!!
I mean this totally changes everything. People always dreamed of a real psp phone! And it's finally happening
Actually it isn't, I got mislead by Popolocrois. It's orignally a PSX game, but since it only got released outside of Japan in its PSP version, I thought it was a PSP title.
Sounds like a step in the right direction
This news is great, funny though, I couldn't tell if your wan was saying PS 3 SDK or PS Suite SDK, lololol!
I think they will release PSP Ports to us in the future.
Hmmm, definitely a step in the right direction, although a few of those games are already available on the Android store, and I haven't even heard of a handful of them (I'd have trouble even pronouncing the titles ), and some are obviously original titles. The linked article also suggests that these titles are for the Japanese market so the list may change when it's released everywhere else...we could get different games or we might just get a truncated list.
But I mean Magical Dice Kids? Really?
I think in the next round of updates it's time they brought some more well-known PSX titles to the market...stuff like ridge racer or gran turismo, some final fantasy titles, twisted metal, tekken, metal gear, god of war...they need to bring out some more Playstation recognisable titles for these Playstation certified devices. I'm not convinced people are buying these devices to play games like I.Q Intelligent Qube. They sound like games you'd buy for a DS, not a PS device.
This is a good start but the next step in what titles are released will be crucial. New games also need to be coming in regularly.
White_Pointer said:
Hmmm, definitely a step in the right direction, although a few of those games are already available on the Android store, and I haven't even heard of a handful of them (I'd have trouble even pronouncing the titles ), and some are obviously original titles. The linked article also suggests that these titles are for the Japanese market so the list may change when it's released everywhere else...we could get different games or we might just get a truncated list.
But I mean Magical Dice Kids? Really?
I think in the next round of updates it's time they brought some more well-known PSX titles to the market...stuff like ridge racer or gran turismo, some final fantasy titles, twisted metal, tekken, metal gear, god of war...they need to bring out some more Playstation recognisable titles for these Playstation certified devices. I'm not convinced people are buying these devices to play games like I.Q Intelligent Qube. They sound like games you'd buy for a DS, not a PS device.
This is a good start but the next step in what titles are released will be crucial. New games also need to be coming in regularly.
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Dude you have some strong points here, however, what's making me really positive about this whole thing is that the xperia play and the PS Vita will have access to the same store! Which means the future of the play is bright because we know as a fact that Sony will keep pushing great games for the Vita and since that's the case this means that both Sony and Sony Ericsson will keep optimising this device. While SE will keep updating the regular android software, hopefully till icecream. Sony on the other hand will keep working on bringing new games to the market + the fact that a lot of android games are being optimised for the play lately.
This device has huge potential and a brighter future. I seriously consider it one of the best android devices you could get today, it's a great package of both multimedia and gaming.
I don't regret for one second choosing the play over all these dual core phones which will be missing all the fun we play owners will have just to brag about a processor that's still not using it's full potentiol due to the lack of software support.
Cheers
Basharca said:
Dude you have some strong points here, however, what's making me really positive about this whole thing is that the xperia play and the PS Vita will have access to the same store! Which means the future of the play is bright because we know as a fact that Sony will keep pushing great games for the Vita and since that's the case this means that both Sony and Sony Ericsson will keep optimising this device. While SE will keep updating the regular android software, hopefully till icecream. Sony on the other hand will keep working on bringing new games to the market + the fact that a lot of android games are being optimised for the play lately.
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Thing is due to hardware differences between the Play and the Vita we'll no doubt see games come out for the Vita that don't make it to the Play. That's what I'm a bit worried about. My point still stands that they need to get their arses into gear and release more recognisable Playstation games, and on a regular basis, for this service to have any hope of being remotely successful.
Still, a good point.
White_Pointer said:
Thing is due to hardware differences between the Play and the Vita we'll no doubt see games come out for the Vita that don't make it to the Play. That's what I'm a bit worried about. My point still stands that they need to get their arses into gear and release more recognisable Playstation games, and on a regular basis, for this service to have any hope of being remotely successful.
Still, a good point.
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id have thought the vita would also use the PSN and theres already 50 plus psone games on there for it.
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id have thought the vita would also use the PSN and theres already 50 plus psone games on there for it.
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Only time will tell how great the PS store for the xperia play store will really be! What makes me optimistic though is that since Sony included the play with their collection ( tablets + Vita) this for me is a very good sign that they will take care of it.
Fingers crossed

Sony Xperia Play 2 - Petition

Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
The Xperia Play was a flop in business yo Sony, they didn't make much from it, they were expecting millions and millions to be sold. Usually companies don't waste time on a successor if the original was not popular.
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KeiranFTW said:
The Xperia Play was a flop in business yo Sony, they didn't make much from it, they were expecting millions and millions to be sold. Usually companies don't waste time on a successor if the original was not popular.
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I'm with you on this one
I'm gonna start a petition to Nokia to get an N-Gage 2 /sarcasm
labbala said:
Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
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i'm with you man
VIVA xpeRia pLAY 2
quad core , tegra 3 ... i'll buy that , and don't care how much that will be
It's because people are greedy that XPlay hadn't the success Sony hoped for. People wanted XPlay to have from the beginning 500 optimised games, ability to play PSP games, Android 5, quad-core etc. But I'm happy that only smart people are owners of XPlay, the others still playing games with their thumbs covering 30% of the screen.
That's how customers are nowadays, they want everything to have the Apple logo, to be perfect, to be popular.
Also, about XPlay 2, Sony will surely do it in the future. It will be something big, a great gaming phone. Unfortunately, right now they have to sell PS Vita's before that.
Does anyone actually have sales data for the xperia play? I know it didnt exactly blow the walls of all known sales records, but I don't think it was a loss making flop like some make it out too be, but if anyone can say im wrong please present the evidence.
The play had a couple of drawbacks on release which really hampered its sales, im hoping sony is going to sort these out and try again, they may not, in that case i will be waiting for a high end slider.
According to this, in september 2011 sony said xperia play sales were meeting expectations. Hardly the flop its rumored to be, but also not a huge success. Truth is, it sold an expected quantity, so there's no reason to think that it won't get a successor. No strong reason to believe it will either.
Yes I think we need an Xperia Play 2. The Xperia play was very good but a little late with the tech inside and this led to a lot of hate from many reviewers. I would say if people at least gave it a try they would change their minds, I mean it is every bit as good as the Nexus S with the bonus of physical gaming controls.
xperia play 2...at least 4.0 AOS for x play.
labbala said:
Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
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I support this thread completely. If this phone came out tomorrow I would pre-order it. However, the biggest issue I haver with the first is its incompatibility with other sony devices, ps3 primarily. I understand this is an OS issue and would like to see a vita OS if possible. I know that is a legal issue. Although if it were done properly in the first place this phone would have been a significant flagship phone. Either should have "gone big or gone home". I would give them another chance. Possibly another one if they actually tried, moreover, if they don't try I'm gunna give them fewer chances. One last thing, samsung could have made a device more compatible with sony products.
Its funny, if a phone doesn't get close to iPhone sales figures then its considered a flop. Since there is a zillion different android phones you can consider all of them a flop as androids market share is split between countless manufacturers. The curse of the open os.
If you think about it, xplay is no more a flop than android is.
There are far to many android models. You need a company to make a gaming phone and only a that. Sony has at least 10 different models competing with its on xplay.
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Its funny, if a phone doesn't get close to iPhone sales figures then its considered a flop. Since there is a zillion different android phones you can consider all of them a flop as androids market share is split between countless manufacturers. The curse of the open os.
If you think about it, xplay is no more a flop than android is.
There are far to many android models. You need a company to make a gaming phone and only a that. Sony has at least 10 different models competing with its on xplay.
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Seems we have an ifanboy.. haha.. I like options. Unlike the iphone which is..one phone..and no, not all android phones are "flops", but hey you should look at some sales figures and then see actual sales then come back and reply until then, don't assume.
lol I am anti apple, just telling it the way it is
Geez you either can't read very well or you took my post the wrong way.
Now-a-days it isn't the phone that's selling its the specs. If you see a new android on the market then you would also see heavily advertised specs about the phone. Bottom line and common sense would tell Sony that higher specs in the worlds only gaming phone would sell through the roof. Also maybe if the touch pads weren't such a big deal to configure for development and games then half the complaints and lost sales would not be what it is today. It doesn't take a genius to know what the ppl want so why is it so hard to put more effort and ambition in this device to make it more successful and up to date. Its simple you gonna sell seedless grapes instead of grapes with seeds in them because you know what ppl want and that's without the headache of spitting out seed after every grape. Stupid analogy but think about it it does make sense
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i am a teenager (13) and i love y rooted and bootloader unlocked xperia play (i did it by myself) and all my friends say that it is a great phoone and that they want to have one. i think it should be continued, but made cheaper so more people between 13 and 18 can afford it (my parents are moderately rich and i got it within the first 6 months of release)
I don't see it happening. It treads too much on the toes of the Vita and was probably Ericsson who pushed for it to happen before. So either Sony is going to see that the future of mobile gaming is integration with smartphones or they're going to continue down the dead end road with the likes of the Vita, in which case the Xperia PLAY 2 won't see the light of day.
The Xperia PLAY didn't do as well as it could have because it was released with 1 year old specs and reviewers are generally unforgiving of that. For an Xperia PLAY 2 to be a success, it would need following:
- Dual/Quad core GPU
- 1GB RAM
- 720p resolution display
- Tegra GPU (not as powerful as others but nvidia is and will continue to buy the market with exclusives)
- 8GB internal memory with expandable memory.
- PSP games - the vita can emulate PSP games, so I don't see this as being unrealistic.
- Better gamepad integration for devs with built in touchscreen to button mapper.
I just don't see it happening any time soon, especially while the Vita is still in play.
I think the future of mobile gaming will be integration with smartphones but sony isn't there yet. When they are, if they can develop the vita into an xperia play shell, they will have the market sewn up (they already have the decent game developers on-board).
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I don't see it happening. It treads too much on the toes of the Vita and was probably Ericsson who pushed for it to happen before. So either Sony is going to see that the future of mobile gaming is integration with smartphones or they're going to continue down the dead end road with the likes of the Vita, in which case the Xperia PLAY 2 won't see the light of day.
The Xperia PLAY didn't do as well as it could have because it was released with 1 year old specs and reviewers are generally unforgiving of that. For an Xperia PLAY 2 to be a success, it would need following:
- Dual/Quad core GPU
- 1GB RAM
- 720p resolution display
- Tegra GPU (not as powerful as others but nvidia is and will continue to buy the market with exclusives)
- 8GB internal memory with expandable memory.
- PSP games - the vita can emulate PSP games, so I don't see this as being unrealistic.
- Better gamepad integration for devs with built in touchscreen to button mapper.
I just don't see it happening any time soon, especially while the Vita is still in play.
I think the future of mobile gaming will be integration with smartphones but sony isn't there yet. When they are, if they can develop the vita into an xperia play shell, they will have the market sewn up (they already have the decent game developers on-board).
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i'll buy that , for any price
I would buy it in a heartbeat
At launch the Xperia Play wasn't too bad, the MSM8255 is still a fine performer.
As much as I hope for you guys a newer Xperia Play will arrive, a petition of any sorts will absolutely not help. Creating and releasing a phone requires months, if not one or two years of work. Especially something that would require so much extra development, new partners, extra quality control, content at launch, ... It's very hard to get all the cycles in the development process up to speed since a phone is something completely different from a console.
I'm in for the Xperia Play 2...
So far My perfect phone will be a Xperia Play with the 32GB Galaxy Nexus Screen and Guts... It's not that difficult Sony.
I will jump to the Galaxy Nexus while I wait...for it
It's all obvious. The Play was launched with old specs for a phone at the time, never mind a phone that should have been cutting edge to be a gaming phone. It's been said many times, but a phone that is up-to-date spec-wise with a gamepad would sell unbelievably.
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Letters to Sony about ICS PLAY

Hey everyone, I know a lot of us are disappointed about the ICS update cancelled for the PLAY, but I'm encouraging us all to show our concern and support for Sony. The worst thing we can do is lash out against them. That will only discourage them.
I have emailed Sony, and I am encouraging you all to do the same. Perhaps, we can show them that there is still hope, and spark innovation for a true Playstation/Phone union in the future. We should look forward to a true Playstation Phone, and not a low-spec hybrid. Below is a copy of my email. I know it's not perfect, but hope your letters may be even more helpful:
"I just read the news on the Xperia Play ICS Update being cancelled. I must first say that I am thankful to Sony for such good communication concerning this issue. Communication is one of the highlights of Sony and it has reflected in your devices' UI interfaces and features.
I have been using the R800i for almost two years now and it is quite an enjoyable device. One of the things that made me skeptical about buying it was the low RAM, Processor, and internal memory. When I first got it, these problems weren't big, but as a used it as a devoted gaming device I found it to be more and more disappointing. I honestly must say that I think it was very irresponsible for you all to make this device so weak when it was obviously made for hardcore gaming. Even as purely a phone, it is weak. Other phones released in its time were considerably more powerful and this device's expanded capability should have merited more processing power. My experience with this devices was only made better when I unlocked the bootloader, voiding the warranty, rooted the phone, and began to add customizations. This has made my current experience not only bearable but enjoyable.
I know that as a company, the Xperia Play has not been the most profitable, but that is very much the fault of Sony. It’s a weak device. If it had more processing power, internal memory, and RAM, I tell you the truth that it would not be comparable to any other mobile device! It truly has the potential to combine the best of both worlds. What has hindered it’s marketability is the non-integration of true Playstation Network functionality, weak specs, and second-rate games. It may be a “Playstation Certified” device, but people want a true Playstation Phone. The Xperia Play does not live up to those expectations. I used to want there to be an Xperia Play 2, but that is not going to solve the problem.
There needs to be a completely new device with full Playstation Network integration and full Android modernization. It must be powerful like the Vita but still have the full functionality of the Android experience. Or perhaps, Sony could take from the Android OS and develop a completely new Xperia OS. If developers on XDA can come up with their own custom ROMs that take advantage of the the PLAY, I am sure that Sony could do the same, and even more, and have even greater results.
In closing, please do not be discouraged at combining the mobile phone world with the Playstation gaming world. The new Sony Mobile has the resources to do this and many of us your customers are truly willing to support you in any capacity that we can. I really hope the company continues in innovation and success.
In sincerity and concern,
Justin "
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A trail of broken promises

First the betamax fiasco, then the removal of the ps3 linux and backward compatibility, and now this.
Grrr lol, oh well i will still enjoy my snes phone
also before anyone says "amg sony didnt promise anything"
i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...
Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again
And please spare me the they clearly couldnt manage it its not sonys fault...
why make that statement literaly around 3-4 days ago...
swebosdev said:
First the betamax fiasco, then the removal of the ps3 linux and backward compatibility, and now this.
Grrr lol, oh well i will still enjoy my snes phone
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To not forget that they sued George Hotz, also called GeoHot.
And then the reason why they took OtherOS-function away, they stated that it was a "security risk to not have a anti virus" and that everyone perhaps wasn't "aware" of that and yeah, everything is just lies when it comes to Sony, no wonder they have to cut down on their TV-selling and produce less number of TVs and more on.
And they don't have any nice support at all.
And what is ridiculous is that they took the most bad hardware-specs they could have found for an 2011-device for Xperia Play and the fact that Xperia Play has the most limited RAM in the 2011 Xperia-line is laughable for sure.
And they have never been that nice to us customers, and I believe this is the last nail in the coffin for me with Sony and me, it's not just working to have sale arguments that hang loose and playing with customers.
And to not forget the Playstation SDK that was in beta-stage for a long time ago that isn't stable yet, it disturbs me, the community for Playstation-certified devices was dead before it even was born as it seems according to how Sony are threating their customers as we are just a playground for their market and nothing that they see as that important.
And I have give up on Sony about that they are making improvements in their relation to the market that they are selling their products to, since I still feel that it was a bad move for Sony and their lawyers to totally turn the hacking-scene for PS3 upside down since I never had as an intention to get games for free, but I liked the feature of not have to run signed code and that you was free to do other stuff as well, and you could run Linux on it and have XBMC on it and have own themes, have a backup-manager and load the games without an ISO if you have a bunch of games for the console and everything I wanted and was given from Sony, they just took it away just like that, assuming that everybody's intention was to get everything for free.
And it's much more that I dislike about Sony, just look at this sound-curve
(From Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray compared with iPhone 3GS):
http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/se-c901/gsmarena_a001.png
And it's just so many faults that Sony has done that I dislike them for, and I won't contribute with buying something more from them as a customer, since they give us products that has potential, but instead of working with that potential and take benefit of those potentials, then they instead take the potentials away and kill their own creations, time after time, and I have really liked them, and I liked their PS1, I have PLENTY of games for it, and I liked their PS2 as well and I have even more games to that, and I really liked them and was sure for having the PS2 when it was released, but then the PS3 came, my thoughts went like "It's so expensive, should I buy it or should I go for an XBOX 360" and I thought that I had to buy the PS3 since I used to like Sony's Playstation-concept, but it turned out that my bet was on the wrong machine, I should had go for the XBOX 360.
And after giving Sony their 2nd try now with a product that I thought would fall between the chairs, it turned out that I was right, and after those experiences with the whole Playstation-certification, overpriced hardware-specs and the very to late Playstation Suite SDK, that will make me not to choose Sony ever again, the focus on the customers seems to be equal with zero.
And this is just another sad chapter in Sony's history according to me.
To not forget that all the Xperia Play development-devices that Sony had at shows had an HDMI-port that could mirror the display to the TV, and was later on removed duo to, according to Sony/Sony Ericsson themselves it was laggy, well, I don't think they spooked the whole truth, since the device had the ports at other positions compared to todays devices that we have, those development devices must had another SoC, GPU, amount of RAM and more with way higher specs and I think Sony took lower performing parts with an meaning and for reasons.
Like one reason about the fact that it would had been to expensive to produce in larger scales with a good profit as well per sold device.
And yeah, I could go on like this forever, but I think it's 'nuff said, I'm no longer loyal to Sony as they have spitted me among many other customers in our faces too many times before, and yeah, I see this as an end of an book called "my life with Sony"
Dont forget what they did to graf, they went gang busters on him
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