This was a classic "let the kid use it at a restaurant". This was the first time this phone was dropped. It was bumped and slid off a dinner table on to a wood floor (nothing particularly hard like concrete or tile) and it landed face down. Must have been the perfect impact! I'm glad we get the one screen assurance replacement, but I wish I hadn't had to use it so soon!
Ouch. Sorry about your phone.
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Looking at it, its hard to tell where the origin of the crack is.
It was most likely a perfect flat.
Better luck next ...screen
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This was a classic "let the kid use it at a restaurant". This was the first time this phone was dropped. It was bumped and slid off a dinner table on to a wood floor (nothing particularly hard like concrete or tile) and it landed face down. Must have been the perfect impact! I'm glad we get the one screen assurance replacement, but I wish I hadn't had to use it so soon!
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motorola never once stated their screen is unbreakable?
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This was a classic "let the kid use it at a restaurant". This was the first time this phone was dropped. It was bumped and slid off a dinner table on to a wood floor (nothing particularly hard like concrete or tile) and it landed face down. Must have been the perfect impact! I'm glad we get the one screen assurance replacement, but I wish I hadn't had to use it so soon!
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Was it with a TPU case?
Good question. Was it cased or naked?
There is no phone with unbreakable glass yet.... they all break.
It was naked. And, yes, I know Motorola never said it was unbreakable - no way they'd do that. It's just a word that was used in many reviews. And when in the store, the Verizon folks said they were so confident the screen wouldn't break they were offering the Screen Assurance. I never really thought it was, but with all of that talk about it, I didn't expect it to go so soon from a drop much gentler than many my "lesser" phones have had. But, we should all know it's not really just the impact speed and what it hits, but also random chance of where it impacts. I just got unlucky with it.
Anyway, to answer another comment, I do think it landed perfectly flat. It was an interesting break pattern.
Btw...was it still functional?
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It was naked. And, yes, I know Motorola never said it was unbreakable - no way they'd do that. It's just a word that was used in many reviews. And when in the store, the Verizon folks said they were so confident the screen wouldn't break they were offering the Screen Assurance. I never really thought it was, but with all of that talk about it, I didn't expect it to go so soon from a drop much gentler than many my "lesser" phones have had. But, we should all know it's not really just the impact speed and what it hits, but also random chance of where it impacts. I just got unlucky with it.
Anyway, to answer another comment, I do think it landed perfectly flat. It was an interesting break pattern.
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Can you give a link to a review that says the screen is unbreakable?
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Can you give a link to a review that says the screen is unbreakable?
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https://lockerdome.com/6901050204626241/7103121369476372
http://www.tablat.in/motorola-droid-turbo-launch-us/
Really, it was more of what they told me at the Verizon store. Honestly, I never really thought it would be unbreakable, I just found the fragility amusing.
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https://lockerdome.com/6901050204626241/7103121369476372
http://www.tablat.in/motorola-droid-turbo-launch-us/
Really, it was more of what they told me at the Verizon store. Honestly, I never really thought it would be unbreakable, I just found the fragility amusing.
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So you bought into marketing speak.
ALL phones are subject to the glass breaking if impacted in the right place, even ruggedized ones.
https://starmen.net/forum/General/Tech/Screen-Broken-on-Cat-B15-Android-Phone
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It was naked. And, yes, I know Motorola never said it was unbreakable - no way they'd do that. It's just a word that was used in many reviews. And when in the store, the Verizon folks said they were so confident the screen wouldn't break they were offering the Screen Assurance. I never really thought it was, but with all of that talk about it, I didn't expect it to go so soon from a drop much gentler than many my "lesser" phones have had. But, we should all know it's not really just the impact speed and what it hits, but also random chance of where it impacts. I just got unlucky with it.
Anyway, to answer another comment, I do think it landed perfectly flat. It was an interesting break pattern.
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If it were perfectly flat, the landing impulse would have spread across the entire area. This would significantly reduce stress concentrations and more than likely not have surpassed the material's ultimate failure stress. Brittle materials, such as the tempered glass used in phone screens, don't yield well causing a very small amount of strain to create large amounts of localized stress. When this happens any small defect, usually not visible, will further increase localized stress and create a crack. Brittle materials propagate quickly due to a very small yield area at the crack tip.
The only "unbreakable" screen would be liquid in nature and drip when the phone is tilted...
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Btw...was it still functional?
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Oops, sorry, missed that. Yes, it still worked fine! A little painful on the fingers, but that's it.
probably by unbreakable they should have meant very scratch resistant...
i bought the otterbox defender so at least its more dificult to break...!!!
I know what you mean about using that screen replacement so soon. I got a few scratches on my screen from dropping my turbo between my car seats, but I'm holding off on getting the screen replaced.
I just put a case on my turbo - that I love. I got the Cimo Clear Premium Slim Wave for ~ $10 on Amazon. It's light & provides much better grip. http://goo.gl/TRXS5T
It just occurred to me that with the 5.2" screen, and the added surface area dedicated to the capacitive buttons, I wonder if the length of the glass span to its thickness is an issue. I'm an engineer, but I only studied materials briefly. The shorter the span, for the same thickness, the more strength. I wonder if some of the larger phablets use a thicker glass? Just pondering.
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It was naked. And, yes, I know Motorola never said it was unbreakable - no way they'd do that. It's just a word that was used in many reviews. And when in the store, the Verizon folks said they were so confident the screen wouldn't break they were offering the Screen Assurance. I never really thought it was, but with all of that talk about it, I didn't expect it to go so soon from a drop much gentler than many my "lesser" phones have had. But, we should all know it's not really just the impact speed and what it hits, but also random chance of where it impacts. I just got unlucky with it.
Anyway, to answer another comment, I do think it landed perfectly flat. It was an interesting break pattern.
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I broke one already too. Same deal, slipped out of my pocket in the garage onto a wooden stair. Landed perfectly flat, shattered all over, couldn't even see a break point. My screen wouldn't even light up afterward. More than anything just sad that I used my screen assurance so quickly and now have to put a case on it. I carry TEP but would rather not pay 150 bucks for a questionably refurbished phone.
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He never stated that Motorola said it was. Stop trolling.
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Also, pretty sure Verizon replaces them for the first year free of charge. That's what they told me, anyways.
Hmm.. Well I accidentally drop tested mine getting out of my truck at a restaurant. I was damn proud of it.
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
Another reason why I wont be having kids...
Hi, I rang Vodafone today and I think they have a few replacement unitsleft, as they said they'd bee shipping me out one in the next few days... see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611939
I hope its actually a HD2 they are shipping me and not another phone, fingers crossed!!
The direct replacement number they gave me was 08448540430 but I'm not sure if thats the right one for insurance but you can try it. Let me know how you get on
Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
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Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
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If I could I'd cover it in adamantium...
This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
Strange, dropped mine 6 feet onto a tile floor yesterday, i was like nooooooooooooo!, picked it up, still perfect, must have been lucky.
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This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
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Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
You were extremely fortunate, either that or I was extremely unfortunate. Ive been reading about the HD2 apparently theres alot of internal stress so although the screen is pretty much scratch proof its not so good on when struck. Very annoying as Ive been very protective of this phone
its actually pretty tough
in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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Being intoxicated whilst using this phone is what I fear the most...
lude219 said:
Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
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I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
Seems like the phone is a bit like an egg. Squeeze an egg from the top and it won't break. Squeeze from the middle however...! So some drop the phone and it shocks the "middle" while others drop it and it shocks the "top". Some are lucky, some are not. Hey ho, them's the breaks! (No pun intended)
HTC HD2 very fragil
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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I recall at list 7 users in this forum having broken screen and so on, so it seems to be taken in consideration >> a hard protector box be highly recommended.
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in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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Seriously. I let it drop like every god damned day from the 24th to the 1rst, and it's still pristine. no scratches. I even let it drop from my height (6 feet 2) while drunk and playing with a girl who tried to snap it out of my hands, my heart skipped a beat, but when I took it up, again, no scratches. I was like, God exists!
But neverthless, I ordered three different cases. I don't want to run out of luck.
Dropped mine from 1,5 meter on a stone floor, nothing happend....
Thank god!
I've dropped my HD2 more than 6 times already (usually from holding height, so about 4 feet) sometimes with the leather case sometimes without. It is still in perfect condition. Come to think about it, it think it always landed on the ends so that may prove the egg theory. I do not have it insured so I'm not gonna go prove that theory just yet
It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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Friday afternoon unit maybe!
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I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
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Condescending? Poorly thought out? Like how you're comparing dropping your brick of a phone with plastic screen to a thin one with GLASS screen? LOL. I'm not even going to vilify that judging by your lack of common sense and logic.
Of course it's taken into account during the construction of the phone. Some people enjoy the finer things in life, and that means sacrificing some structural integrity for form factor. I'm sure being as naive as you are, you probably didn't think about that. You see, Syphon, the HD2 is like a Ferrari F430 comparing to your Civic of a Touch Pro. It has carbon fiber exterior mated with 490 ponies strapped to the back, and like any other cars out there, it has been crash-tested. It's expensive because of lightweight material, because of exquisite engine design, and because of engineering. All this to ensure that the driver gets the most thrill and satisfaction out of driving it. These cars are well maintained and pampered due to the common sense that these owners have and to be able to understand that these toys are expensive and you'd take the utmost precaution to enjoy them. Now the majority of the people who own these cars are smart, successful people who take pride in taking care of their valuables...the kind of stuff that you lack.
Your Civic, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen...and are the stuff that junkyards are made of. They're cheap, easily to get thrown around and can be easily fixed. The fact of the matter is, your civic is nothing more but a rolling scrap metal that attracts door dings, bird poo, and a variety of things that happen to a car with as much of a presence as a piece of rock. In case you're still clueless, your touch pro should never be compared to an HD2. It's a giant slab of plastic that doubles as a door stop.
Now, I was going to stop but you made another grand of a post. In case you haven't noticed, most car key FOBs are PLASTIC. Yep. Quite a shocker huh? You know what else is a shocker? It doesn't have a screen. All it is, is a small PCB board with a round battery attached to it. Though I wouldnt expect you to understand that based on your inane inability to understand what plastic is and what glass is. I suggest having a running start and smashing your head through your car window so you'll know what the difference is.
....I should aso tell you to put on a helmet to protect that smart brain of yours.
This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
jkhouw1 said:
This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
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Might aswell just root it, you have nothing to lose now
May I suggest something more appropriate for you?
check this....
http://www.zshare.net/image/74921981ee0d03f5/
Stea1thmode said:
Might aswell just root it, you have nothing to lose now
May I suggest something more appropriate for you?
check this....
http://www.zshare.net/image/74921981ee0d03f5/
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50 seconds to see a 14kb image? I feel like I've been rickrolled.
jkhouw1 said:
This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
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several 5 foot drops on asphault? [joke] Thats fitting because it sounds simular to you're an ass and its your fault, jk. [/joke]
Seriously though, the n1 should not be about to handle that kind of drop. Yes the outside is metal, but its very thin and therefore a shock wave will pass right through it. If it is incased in some type of rubbery material which would absorb the shock it would of been fine, but it doesnt have that.
Thats why I bought a thin rubbery silicon case. When it falls the case absords the whole impact shock with little energy being transfered to the actual n1. Hard cases add more thickness to the phone and therefore more material can help absorb the shock, but something that deforms a little is the only real way to protect something from a hard fall. Even with a hard case, a 10+ drop on concrete and you can most likely say good bye to your n1. With a silicon case there is a good chance it will be perfectly fine.
I can get into really techinal terms, but I'm trying not to do that because I understand not everyone is a material science engineer.
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several 5 foot drops on asphault? [joke] Thats fitting because it sounds simular to you're an ass and its your fault, jk. [/joke]
Seriously though, the n1 should not be about to handle that kind of drop. Yes the outside is metal, but its very thin and therefore a shock wave will pass right through it. If it is incased in some type of rubbery material which would absorb the shock it would of been fine, but it doesnt have that.
Thats why I bought a thin rubbery silicon case. When it falls the case absords the whole impact shock with little energy being transfered to the actual n1. Hard cases add more thickness to the phone and therefore more material can help absorb the shock, but something that deforms a little is the only real way to protect something from a hard fall. Even with a hard case, a 10+ drop on concrete and you can most likely say good bye to your n1. With a silicon case there is a good chance it will be perfectly fine.
I can get into really techinal terms, but I'm trying not to do that because I understand not everyone is a material science engineer.
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Oh my gawd, thanks for the common sense lessons!!!
Jk'ing.. kinda, but people (should know) know most of what you said already. Well, at least I did.
A covered phone is always better than a naked one :/
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Oh my gawd, thanks for the common sense lessons!!!
Jk'ing.. kinda, but people (should know) know most of what you said already. Well, at least I did.
A covered phone is always better than a naked one :/
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Judging by the OP, I felt what i said was approate even if it should be common knowledge.
Seriously? don't get a phone this expensive if you still drop your phone.i haven't dropped a phone since I had a razor. As I said, don't buy a $600 that has a glass screen and drop it. Take anything made of glass and drop it 5 feet and it will shatter .
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shonanthebarbarianTP2 said:
Seriously? don't get a phone this expensive if you still drop your phone.i haven't dropped a phone since I had a razor. As I said, don't buy a $600 that has a glass screen and drop it. Take anything made of glass and drop it 5 feet and it will shatter .
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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Very very true.. cellphones are simply prone to be dropped.
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This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
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3 or 4 drops on concrete??? note to jkhouw...hide your nexus one when hitting the bottle!
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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See the drop test videos - it is designed to stand some drops.
To expect a glass screen to successfully withstand multiple 5+ ft drops onto a very hard surface (concrete) is a bit extreme. Glass is still glass and will break if there's enough of an impulse imparted on it.
From the testing videos they demoed they appear to have tested common drops, ~3 ft or more from the appearance, and it looks fairly robust at that point.
I don't think it's a common scenario to take it out of your pocket and have it fall 5 ft unless we have a high percentage of giants here at XDA who have big, clumsy hands.
While it is unreasonable to expect someone to never drop their phone, from what Google has shown, the testing for structural integrity appears to have been done for "common" falls (slips coming out of pocket, knocked off of table/counter, etc.) based on the fall height. Falls of 5+ feet are likely pretty uncommon for most users and I think you'd be hard pressed to come up with a slim solution (housing material/thickness) for a glass screen that would consistently withstand falls from that height. Unless.....
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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they are designed to be dropped some, but you also have some things you can't design for.
For example we were just talking about a 5 ft drop on asphault. If I design it to be dropped from there, what angle contact angle am i talking about? Obviously a fall straight on its back will be different than a corner hit. Does manufactoring it to survive both drop types interfer with eachother? How much more does it cost? How much size will it add? Maybe I could use better materials, but then that also comes with added cost.
Also, it doesnt matter how many safety meetings you have, people will find a way to mess up there n1's in some new way.
So alot of this comes down to cost, and there becomes a point where you say the end user should have some responsibility.
so wait...you guys are telling me that dropping glass on a hard surface like concrete from 5 or more feet off the ground isn't a good idea? who are the ad wizards that came up with this one?!
The phone is sturdy indeed! I have dropped it several times by now (more than I have dropped any other phone, anyway) and it has always withstood the falls like a champ. Last week I dropped it on asphalt from 5 / 6 feet: time slowed down as I watched it fall and bounce, both the battery cover and the battery itself jumping out while the phone finally slid face down on the concrete for 2 or three feet. I don't know how long I stood there staring at it before picking it up, all while thinking what a good phone it had been.
You know what? The screen was perfectly fine, and only the soft part at the bottom had a very obvious dent where it had first hit the floor. The phone might not be invulnerable, but it's definitely tougher than it looks.
Not everything's good though. From my experience this phone is very prone to falling. It's so thin and wide that gripping it firmly is difficult, and can you guys explain why it doesn't have a hole or something to fix a lace on it or something?
Seriously, I feel that's the one thing the N1 is sorely lacking.
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The phone is sturdy indeed! I have dropped it several times by now (more than I have dropped any other phone, anyway) and it has always withstood the falls like a champ. Last week I dropped it on asphalt from 5 / 6 feet: time slowed down as I watched it fall and bounce, both the battery cover and the battery itself jumping out while the phone finally slid face down on the concrete for 2 or three feet. I don't know how long I stood there staring at it before picking it up, all while thinking what a good phone it had been.
You know what? The screen was perfectly fine, and only the soft part at the bottom had a very obvious dent where it had first hit the floor. The phone might not be invulnerable, but it's definitely tougher than it looks.
Not everything's good though. From my experience this phone is very prone to falling. It's so thin and wide that gripping it firmly is difficult, and can you guys explain why it doesn't have a hole or something to fix a lace on it or something?
Seriously, I feel that's the one thing the N1 is sorely lacking.
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the mock n2 pictures have one, but I for one think its FUGLY. Seriously, just get a thin silicon rubbary case and the grip issue is gone.
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the mock n2 pictures have one, but I for one think its FUGLY. Seriously, just get a thin silicon rubbary case and the grip issue is gone.
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True. I don't really like cases though, someone once said they're like making Angelina Jolie wear a fat suit and I agree. Might buy one anyway in order to stop dropping the goddamn phone.
By the way, do you guys know if it's possible to replace the soft bottom part? It hurts to look at it so dented and damaged.
That is rediculous.i have yet to drop my N1, G1, MT3g, blackberry 9700,or my HD2.It's about making a conscious thought of "I'm taking this $600 phone out if my pocket. I should be careful".
Seriously? don't get a phone this expensive if you still drop your phone.i haven't dropped a phone since I had a razor. As I said, don't buy a $600 th
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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shonanthebarbarianTP2 said:
That is rediculous.i have yet to drop my N1, G1, MT3g, blackberry 9700,or my HD2.It's about making a conscious thought of "I'm taking this $600 phone out if my pocket. I should be careful".
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I haven't dropped my N1 yet either, but I know it will happen. You're acting as if you have some inhuman ability of never dropping things that are expensive - I'm going to assume you rarely take your phone out of your pocket when outside, and when you do you most likely pay too much attention to it as if its a baby. I can imagine you over gripping a phone in order to prevent a dent or 2, watching it carefully as if its a life or death situation..
I'm probably exaggerating, but I really don't see how you do it. You must be a very carefull individual.
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Very very true.. cellphones are simply prone to be dropped.
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Yes, there are two kinds of nexus one (or any other model) owners. Those who have dropped their phones and those who are going to drop their phones.
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Yes, there are two kinds of nexus one (or any other model) owners. Those who have dropped their phones and those who are going to drop their phones.
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In Soviet Russia, the Nexus One drops you!
The screen impacted the floor squarely and the phone was naked. Bottom panel popped out of alignment, though thankfully it could be popped back in. There's a new scratch at the bottom of the front. FFFFUUUUUUUU.
I mean sure, it still functions as normal--and to this I must testify for HTC's build quality--but ****ing **** ****. It'd be one thing if I was the one clumsy enough to drop it, but it's a co-worker's clumsiness which sent me into quite a rage. I was this close to demanding that he either buys me a replacement or gives me the money to buy one, because honestly ****ing **** is it so hard to be mindful of other people's belongings, especially expensive belongings?
God.
Yea, it really sucks to drop a naked N1. I remember walking out of the gym once and I pulled my keys out of my pocket. My N1 decided to go along for the ride and jumped right out and landed on the ground. I was so pissed at myself. After noticing the scratches, I cried a little inside. But it's okay though, I just remind myself that it's just a phone and I will be getting a new one in less than a year.
I've dropped my nexus so many times I've lost count.
It really does suck though, it's so damn expensive that it's almost a part of you.
I have dropped my phone also, not a N1 but a Droid and the first time i almost wanted to cut off my clumsy hands, but as DOHCtor says i remember it's just a phone and if by any chance was broken i could do nothing but buy another (Although at that moment i didn't have enough money to do it right away).
Fortunately my droid keeps working
Yeah, I'm glad it's still working and come some time next year I'll be getting a new phone, but grrrrr. Right now I don't really want to change yet because the phone's nice and I like it, and even if I managed to squeeze the dude for a new-phone fund, I'd have been quite heartbroken.
My next phone's going to be aluminium.
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Yea, it really sucks to drop a naked N1. I remember walking out of the gym once and I pulled my keys out of my pocket. My N1 decided to go along for the ride and jumped right out and landed on the ground. I was so pissed at myself. After noticing the scratches, I cried a little inside. But it's okay though, I just remind myself that it's just a phone and I will be getting a new one in less than a year.
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So you have your phone in your pocket with your keys? Seriously?
I dropped my phone once onto road, chipped a small bit off the top right, i felt terrible about it. Im very careful with it these days, i still haven't got any idea what a replacement phone would be like, the N1 is still the best imo.
noooooo you people are insane. or i am just OCD about chit like that. yes its just a phone if you look at it. however, that one scratch, nick or dent will haunt you til you get a replacement. I remember my first real cell phone back in the days. "NOKIA 8900" yes the slider. i cradled that thing like my first born. one day my friend asked to see it and she decided to close the lid by slamming the phone to the table. I nearly killed her. ever since then, when they ask, i say no and say its just a phone. LOL.
I don't know i am maybe little insane but i just cant over look the damage. i prob replace it or change out the casing. i done that many times. however, if you were looking to replace it no biggie.
PS. I know somebody who can take care of your coworker if you want.
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PS. I know somebody who can take care of your coworker if you want.
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How much are we talking about?
Not much..... lol.
Plus its different when others drop your phone. When you do it you can shrug it off but others.... i don't know I'd I can handle it.....
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Bummer! Hope u can fix it up. I keep mine in a bank safe
yeah i'm terrified of damaging my N1 that i just got and the guy i bought it from had dropped it once and it has a few dings on 1 side at the corners from it.
this is probably the first phone i've had that will stay in a rubber case most of the time. its just too thin and small in my clumsy hand to use without it i'm certain i would drop it and these screens break even easier than older phones did because the glass is so close to the edge of the housing.
my G1 however took many falls and the screen stayed intact. i was surprised how well it has held up. i used it for 2 years straight with no case.
to the guy who keeps his N1 in the same pocket as his keys, thats a recipe for disaster. remember glass is hard and brittle. when objects that are as hard or harder than glass touch, press or hit glass like a key or a rock the glass is more often than not going to break and at the very least get scratched and scratches if good enough can develop into a crack pretty easily.
i always have and always will keep my phone with screen facing my thigh in my pocket opposite of the pocket i keep my keys in
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My next phone's going to be aluminium.
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Aluminum scratches and dents worse than plastic! I'd choose plastic over aluminum. But that Liquidmetal material (a special patented alloy of titanium and other stuff that has no ordered crystal structure) looks pretty good; it might be tough enough. Hopefully more manufacturers will start using it.
Yall dont use cases?????
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yeah i'm terrified of damaging my N1 that i just got and the guy i bought it from had dropped it once and it has a few dings on 1 side at the corners from it.
this is probably the first phone i've had that will stay in a rubber case most of the time. its just too thin and small in my clumsy hand to use without it i'm certain i would drop it and these screens break even easier than older phones did because the glass is so close to the edge of the housing.
my G1 however took many falls and the screen stayed intact. i was surprised how well it has held up. i used it for 2 years straight with no case.
to the guy who keeps his N1 in the same pocket as his keys, thats a recipe for disaster. remember glass is hard and brittle. when objects that are as hard or harder than glass touch, press or hit glass like a key or a rock the glass is more often than not going to break and at the very least get scratched and scratches if good enough can develop into a crack pretty easily.
i always have and always will keep my phone with screen facing my thigh in my pocket opposite of the pocket i keep my keys in
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Actually, no, the nexus screen doesnt scratch easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74
I don't usually put my keys and phone in the same pocket, it just happen to be in the same pocket at that time. And besides, my keys only consist of a car key and house key. It's not like I'm a janitor.
You could be the most careful guy in the world, but it just takes one bad drop and your phone could be done. I haven't seen it happen with the Nexus, but that's because no one I know has one. I've seen it with a handful of iPhones and other touch screen phones though.. It's well worth the investment to protect a $600 device
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Plus its different when others drop your phone. When you do it you can shrug it off but others.... i don't know I'd I can handle it.....
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Exactly. You can't very well punch someone over a phone, people'd think you are a complete lunatic. But the urge is there. Oh, how it is there.
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Actually, no, the nexus screen doesnt scratch easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74
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Good god, you think this video is real? It's faked, he's not pressing hard at all.
Besides, it's not the "one time" that'll necessarily get you, it's the "every day" stuff that gets you. The screen will get dull, the paint will start dulling.. There's zero chance I'll ever put my phone in my pocket with keys, coins, etc. In fact I rarely put it in my pocket at all, 99% of the time it's in my Krussel case.
Yeah I work in the glass industry the thinner the glass is the harder it is to scratch but the easier it is to break.
My nexus has a hand full of scratches on the screen
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So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
Wow, that's sux
How in the world the drop tests are fairly good from waist and head level high, but unbelievable bad at real life accident.
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It's glas....it cracks.!?! " I am not paying"..."I am fed up"...better don't drop it lol)
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Pretty unfortunate seeing as the screen has been tested over and over again in videos of dropping it. That's what insurance is for, though. I imagine it won't be cheap to repair!
A shame that it cracked from such a low drop, but this much isn't Samsung's fault:
So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
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There are safer places to put an expensive electronic device while rearranging furniture.
I don't think it's about whose fault this is, accident happens, sometimes people aren't careful enough, sometimes **** just happened.
On the drop tests, it's rated pretty good, which should reflect on real life in theory. But again, another factor also matters, angle of drops, whether the screen itself has a drop before or not, or maybe a dud, we don't know.
It's just under normal circumstances, it shouldn't crack at 6 inched drop, period, especially for gorilla glass 4, that supposedly to be as strong as superman, except the only weakness is to its kryptonite, its own clear view case from Samsung... Cough cough
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So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
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Your phone fell on a tile floor and you're expecting to get it replaced for free? good luck with that
Samsung never claimed it cracked or break resistant!
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It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
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First of all, if you're referring to the Spigen Ultra Hybrid case, it frankly probably helped it break. There's too much play in the case, so the device itself already moves around and some drops would result in somewhat of a secondary impact. That's why I can't wait to get rid of mine. The Neo Hybrid/CC is a better bet if you don't mind the design.
Secondly, there's no such thing as a "mini drop with no impact" when you're talking about a device weighing nearly half a pound (with case) encased in glass hitting one of the hardest surfaces (marble) it could possibly fall on. Not to mention I doubt it was only 6 inches (which you stated was 7 inches initially) from the ground; unless your mattress was on the floor, and it wasn't at all lifted when you were moving it.
Finally, glass hitting from a side or corner is never minor. The only drops that qualify as "minor" are flat drops onto soft surfaces. Other than that, you should be expecting a break unless you have a proper case (meaning one that -entirely- encases the device). Will it always break? Of course not. But you should expect that it will nonetheless.
There's nothing unusual that occurred here. This accident is entirely your fault. Gorilla GLASS is still glass, and glass tends to break when it hits something. Especially other hard surfaces.
It's pretty humorous how unrealistic people's expectations of glass has become just because somebody put the word "gorilla" in front of it. If Corning starts selling Gorilla Paper, I'm betting somebody would probably cover themself in it and expect to be bulletproof.
Corning I expect 5% of the profits if you use that for an idea.
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So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
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You need to learn how physics works. You dropped your phone. It's your fault. Samsung should not, and will not, replace this phone for free. You ****ed up. You pay for it. It could have happened with any phone.
sorry to hear that man. maybe you just got unlucky because i dropped mines from about 6 feet high onto concrete without a case... and literally didnt have a scratch on it. overall ive had a great experience with this phone (even though i still liked my s5 better...)
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So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
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I predict a ton of people with this complaint. I have the Edge, the large curved screen seems particularly vulnerable. I fear the day I drop mine.
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A shame that it cracked from such a low drop, but this much isn't Samsung's fault:
There are safer places to put an expensive electronic device while rearranging furniture.
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I agree, partially my fault.
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Your phone fell on a tile floor and you're expecting to get it replaced for free? good luck with that
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Alright, chill. Most of you going all defensive on Samsungs side, wait for it to happen to you. Sure I placed it somewhere I shouldnt have but it was NOT that high. It should be able to deal with that small a drop, period.
i cracked mine week 2 of owning and been running naked for many years with my other phones and never cracked a screen. just thought i would let you know your not alone and i got an insurance replacement.
it was my fault and only angry at myself but i will say that i have dropped many other phones with no issue so maybe its an easier phone to crack or maybe i hit it just right.
i read a post from a guy that dropped his from his moving 18 wheeler tractor and with no case and it barely had a scratch so who knows.
I dropped mine from about 5 feet height last week and there is not a single scratch. . Luckily it landes on the bottom speaker grills side.. screen would have been a different story...phew.. I would still not use a duly case.. This phone is too hot to put a case on.. if the screen shatters, I would get it replaced. .lol
You really need to understand what hardened glass means, it does not - by any measure - mean it's harder to breaks, as a matter of fact it might actually be easier to break than regular glass. However hardened glass is harder to scratch - which is also the main focus.
So please don't blame either Samsung or Corning for the glass to behave exactly as expected...
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I never used Samsung because they Use cheap quality,After see good product comes in market they slightly price down the product
Mainaharen said:
I never used Samsung because they Use cheap quality,After see good product comes in market they slightly price down the product
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[emoji58] this thread needs to die. OP needs to be a big boy and get over it. "Stuff" happens, deal with it.
Yeah. I agree with FluffyR.
What's the purpose of this thread? The OP damaged the thing and want to blame Samsung for it? I don't get it...
@Mainaharen. The so called cheap quality /plastics that Samsung used till the S5 prevented even such damages....
You cannot change the physics of glass/metal....
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Hi All,
Haven't broken a screen in 4 years -first week with a bigger device slipped out of my hand when going into my pocket and the screen cracked. Weak as **** in my opinion but what are you going to do.
I contacted googlefi about nexus protect. They said they are going to be rolling out their own protection plan but could not tell me a launch date. Does anyone know anything about this?
I really can't believe this phone is that weak..
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srs731 said:
Hi All,
Haven't broken a screen in 4 years -first week with a bigger device slipped out of my hand when going into my pocket and the screen cracked. Weak as **** in my opinion but what are you going to do.
I contacted googlefi about nexus protect. They said they are going to be rolling out their own protection plan but could not tell me a launch date. Does anyone know anything about this?
I really can't believe this phone is that weak..
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It must have hit just right. The other night I was reading in bed and nodded off for a second while holding the 6p. It hit the side table, then the hardwood floor. I'm not using a case, just a Skinomi full body and screen Tech Skin, but there wasn't a scratch. (phew!) As far as Fi offering protection, I gave up on that route and bought a Square Trade warranty instead.
Yes! Horrible phone because the OP doesn't handle it properly. Shame on Gorilla Glass and Huawei! /s
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It must have hit just right. The other night I was reading in bed and nodded off for a second while holding the 6p. It hit the side table, then the hardwood floor. I'm not using a case, just a Skinomi full body and screen Tech Skin, but there wasn't a scratch. (phew!) As far as Fi offering protection, I gave up on that route and bought a Square Trade warranty instead.
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It did hit on the corner, the aluminum bezel bent right in which caused the glass to break - I have read many threads about the phone bending, I am a bit disappointed, I went with the 6p for the aluminum over plastic however this has only seemed to hurt me rather than help. Google told me their pricing options $5 / month and a $99 deductible however no idea when the plan was rolling out. They did advise I was eligible for when it comes out so now I guess I just have to wait. Phone works fine, just bothers me, I like my devices clean.
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Yes! Horrible phone because the OP doesn't handle it properly. Shame on Gorilla Glass and Huawei! /s
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Wow, someone is a bit full of themselves aren't they? Correct, I do believe that a phone SHOULD NOT break with one drop from pocket height, I've owned countless smart phones in the past 4 years, none of which I broke the screen in that time; while I do not drop my device often and I take care of them mistakes happen. (My galaxy S4 still looks brand new). Therefore I am critiquing the build quality of this phone.
Amazon tweeted this perfectly
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Amazon tweeted this perfectly
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I'm not really sure what your point is, or why you are trolling. You are of no help to my thread. As I said mistakes happen, I made one, and dropped my phone. I'm not saying it is anyone's fault other than mine. I did however state I was DISAPPOINTED in the build quality as I do not believe one drop should crack a screen, especially from pocket height.
Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinions does not make them a troll. That word is thrown around WAY too many times around the here. I am not arguing with you, bud. But your bad luck doesn't mean that the phone is faulty. Glass shatters at different rates depending on speed, force, and angle. All of these phones you dropped did not drop at the same rate for these variables each time you dropped them. When the anger subsides, (and yes I get mad at myself also when i break something...human nature), just be an adult about it and chalk it up to a bad accident. Unless of course you are younger than an adult. In that case, I apologize and carry on
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I'm not really sure what your point is, or why you are trolling. You are of no help to my thread. As I said mistakes happen, I made one, and dropped my phone. I'm not saying it is anyone's fault other than mine. I did however state I was DISAPPOINTED in the build quality as I do not believe one drop should crack a screen, especially from pocket height.
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One drop on the corner will break a screen.
I have seen iPhones, Android of various brands break from pocket height.
All you need it the right location, angle, etc.
There is nothing wrong with the phone, you dropped it and it broke.
You can get it replaced right now. Project Fi offering one time replacements for $100 bucks
Problem Solved -
Bought my phone with AMEX they have 90 day protection against broken devices. I can file a claim with them and they will refund my purchase price.
Glad it worked out well for you...