Will lollipop increase the chance of root? - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General

Do you guys think the lollipop update will help the chance of a root method being found? When the update comes out should I do it right then and there or wait to see if lollipop will completely ruin any chance

There was an article from ChainsDD saying that if anything lollipop is more locked down. My bet is, if their going to get root it's going to be on KitKat.

hackthis02 said:
There was an article from ChainsDD saying that if anything lollipop is more locked down. My bet is, if their going to get root it's going to be on KitKat.
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Wouldn't we have root by now then? I only say because KitKat doesn't seem that hard to root even though it varies depending on OEM. I would think since lollipop for the Droid Turbo isn't too far off (we hope) Then devs would just wait til then for root because most people will take the lollipop update. At least that's how it looks to me and this is my opinion

I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.

m4rk0358 said:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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Agreed.

m4rk0358 said:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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Curious what makes you say that? Info? From what I've read it seems like lollipop is going to kill root.

m4rk0358 said:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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Please explain I'm intrigued

To sum up what I think he means is he believes that root will be obtained in lollipop for the Droid Turbo ( Again just guessing)

I think reduces chances of root

I say helps. Because pretty soon all current moto phones will be on lollipop anyways
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I'm by no means a techie-guy, but I really miss root, so I can run Titanium Backup and have the free hot-spot.

DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you guys think the lollipop update will help the chance of a root method being found? When the update comes out should I do it right then and there or wait to see if lollipop will completely ruin any chance
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My opinion is that Kit Kat doesn't have root NOT because its impossible but because the lack of interest from the people that find these exploits, perhaps its just a matter of time before one of these guys gets a Turbo and works on it or so we hope.
Finding these exploits is not easy an requires insane amounts of personal time and resources, often with little reward. I understand that there's a bounty on this site but this site is just a star in a galaxy. Sometimes these exploits are found by Asian hackers not Americans therefore the audience is very limited on a Verizon exclusive device like our Turbo.
I do however believe, and this is just my opinion and perhaps wishful thinking, that Lollipop will shine a spotlight on this device and people will notice it even more and perhaps attract some of these guys willing to spend hours after hours finding that one vulnerability in that one line code where they can inject their own code to achieve root. Good luck to us!

m4rk0358 said:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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I bet the differ. No phone would come out with an update with root included. An exploit needs to be found. Even chainfire states that root access is going to be harder with lollipop. I dont think we will be seeing root anytime soon. Atleast for a year.

I hope he didn't actually mean the update would be rooted already.

Who do I need to donate/lend a Turbo to for this to happen?

black7 said:
Who do I need to donate/lend a Turbo to for this to happen?
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Currently there is only one person actively working on it and he already has a turbo. The ones that have done this before stated they dont have the time to do this. So no one.

the_rooter said:
Currently there is only one person actively working on it and he already has a turbo. The ones that have done this before stated they dont have the time to do this. So no one.
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Who said they are working on it? Did I miss something?

lafont28 said:
Who said they are working on it? Did I miss something?
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If you read through some of the threads there is one user working on it.

the_rooter said:
If you read through some of the threads there is one user working on it.
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A lot have said they are working on it. None seemed all that credible

lafont28 said:
A lot have said they are working on it. None seemed all that credible
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There is one user more than credible for this. Will he suceed? Idk but he is working on it.

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can someone explaine what going on? is there any way to root or still nothing??

i can't understand nothing from all the threads here
is there a way to realy root the phone?? or nothing?
if there is why isn;t there any guid for that?
i realy need it to let the phone support another languges
thanks for helping
still nothing....
please don't post without searching first. There's already a sticky thread for general queries on rooting..
MOD.. please delete this thread.
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no and won't be any root
hoss_n2 said:
no and won't be any root
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Why are all you comment pessimistic? Root is possible... sure... and I'm sure too that the Cleopatra's tumb it's there, in some place keep away to be like the bottom of a AA Battery be like the top.. positive!
@hoss_n2 - I'm with ondoteam.. most of your posts are really negative.. you need to get something good in your life man.. it's not healthy.
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im_iceman said:
@hoss_n2 - I'm with ondoteam.. most of your posts are really negative.. you need to get something good in your life man.. it's not healthy.
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i agree all we need is to wait and cross finger that 2.1 or 2.2 will coming soon and aim sure lots of different gesture and features will came....
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@hoss_n2 - I'm with ondoteam.. most of your posts are really negative.. you need to get something good in your life man.. it's not healthy.
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it is a big problem with me ,all my friens said that ,and it starts with me since htc promised wp7 for hd2 ,but microsoft refused because of the number of buttons it has i never trusts oem any more
I am not really familiar with rooting.
Does it actually mean we can install the plain android (2.1 or 2.2?) once someone figure how to root X10?
Sorry to be a pessimist but i truly doubt that there ever will or was root at the X10. Also the try via SETool i don't believe there ever was root archived (anyone seen proof for it ?). Sounds like a Fake to me. So after watching the whole "progress" it seems we have the first Android Device which cant be rooted. Means for us to wait in patient for SE updates and maybe we get 2.2 next Year in June. :-( so what i guess I'm going to sell my X10 as long i can still get some Money for it.
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Sorry to be a pessimist but i truly doubt that there ever will or was root at the X10. Also the try via SETool i don't believe there ever was root archived (anyone seen proof for it ?). Sounds like a Fake to me. So after watching the whole "progress" it seems we have the first Android Device which cant be rooted. Means for us to wait in patient for SE updates and maybe we get 2.2 next Year in June. :-( so what i guess I'm going to sell my X10 as long i can still get some Money for it.
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why are you being so negative in ever single root thread ? do you think the rubbish you are spouting is helping anyone ? well its not... so please stop. must the stuff you have been saying is total rubbish. like your ''it will never get root because it is not a popular phone'' comment in the other thread. its the top selling smartphone asia has ever had and it is selling amazingly well in the UK too
The motorola milestone has been out for AGES and it has not been rooted yet (technically, I think it's the bootloader that is locked...pretty much the same in terms of results).
So the X10 is not an isolated case.
What I don't understand is why these manufacturers don't realise that by making it so hard to root their phones they are actually hurting their own sales.
My only hope, regarding the X10, is that since the phone has sold 160k units in Jpana, someone might be able to root it over there.
nsane said:
The motorola milestone has been out for AGES and it has not been rooted yet.
So the X10 is not an isolated case.
What I don't understand is why these manufacturers don't realise that by making it so hard to root their phones they are actually hurting their own sales.
My only hope, regarding the X10, is that since the phone has sold 160k units in Jpana, someone might be able to root it over there.
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yes it has
nsane said:
The motorola milestone has been out for AGES and it has not been rooted yet (technically, I think it's the bootloader that is locked...pretty much the same in terms of results).
So the X10 is not an isolated case.
What I don't understand is why these manufacturers don't realise that by making it so hard to root their phones they are actually hurting their own sales.
My only hope, regarding the X10, is that since the phone has sold 160k units in Jpana, someone might be able to root it over there.
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motorolla is rooted ages ago
SETool!! the way forward...
hoss_n2 said:
no and won't be any root
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SETool!! its the way forward...

Someone hurry & root this official Sprint 2.1

I'm tired of looking at this bloatware!!!
I'll donate $20 to the first guy who nails it.
Peace.
Be patient grasshopper! It will happen in due time.
Why dont you root it if you want it so bad.
Hate to be a ****, but its your own damn fault. Hundreds of times it was posted NOT to update the phone and wait for a ROM based off the official release or wait until root was achieved. Didnt read em? TFB. I hope no one EVER achieves root this time.
Darkshneider said:
Hate to be a ****, but its your own damn fault. Hundreds of times it was posted NOT to update the phone and wait for a ROM based off the official release or wait until root was achieved. Didnt read em? TFB. I hope no one EVER achieves root this time.
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So i got one with root and one thats rooted and I gotta say this yes all these posts whining need to stop. But I do want to say why not? There aren't any roms as fast as this right now and everytime that there is a good one it gets ****ed up or forgotten before its done. The only thing that has any hope is the froyo thing right now because all the devs are working on it together.
I hate to admit it but I agree one hundred percent with dark shnieder. A million times we all said dont install the new signed 2.1 releAse and this shows that ignorance is the downfall for those who do not listen. Do yourselfs a favor all u ppl who installed stock 2.1... when the community tells you not to do something don't ****ing do it. Now deal with your ignorance until 2.1 is rooted.
I don't care one way or the other, I've had working 2.1 for months and I am very happy with it. If you were dumb enough to flash a ROM without researching it first, you get what you deserve. I've been running damages ROM's since they came out and have had little to no issues. I am currently running 2.08.1 and have no problems at all. So, if they come out with another update to DC or not, I'm am very happy with the ROM I have.
Hell, Ive been running ports of Android versions since Donut started to get ported (it wasnt a daily for me since I couldnt get SMS working) then played around with early 2.1 builds. I can say I was one of the few that actually saw all these 2.1 ROMs evolve from pretty basic stuff, kinda like what Froyo is right now.
I learned my lesson back with the PSP: "do not update to the latest and greatest if you know the community will come up with better stuff in days if not hours of that release".
Not everyone flashed the 2.1 RUU. I took my phone in for service and it was deemed hardware failure. They gave me a brand new phone and installed 2.1 on it without asking me if I wanted it. I asked for another phone with 1.5 and they said no LOL. So I am stuck with 2.1 stock until someone figures out how to root it. And I can't wait, because some of the ROMs I have been reading about sound real nice.
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Hell, Ive been running ports of Android versions since Donut started to get ported (it wasnt a daily for me since I couldnt get SMS working) then played around with early 2.1 builds. I can say I was one of the few that actually saw all these 2.1 ROMs evolve from pretty basic stuff, kinda like what Froyo is right now.
I learned my lesson back with the PSP: "do not update to the latest and greatest if you know the community will come up with better stuff in days if not hours of that release".
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Anyone who runs windows should have learned to NEVER update without research. I learned that one the hard way when automatic updates fubar'd my windows. Never let it update without research since......................
chfields said:
Anyone who runs windows should have learned to NEVER update without research. I learned that one the hard way when automatic updates fubar'd my windows. Never let it update without research since......................
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Lol, Ive never had any problems with Windows, Im a black belt 3rd dan in Google Fu.
I too had a problem with my phone and took it in to sprint repair center....they updated it to 2.1 and didnt ask me and told me the problem was fixed.....but i want to root my phone again...is it possible for me to flash the leaked version of 2.1 and root that one or has nobody found a root to that one yet?
So $20 to me and $20 to Regaw, or $10 each?
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So $20 to me and $20 to Regaw, or $10 each?
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So you guys finally did it?
Darkshneider said:
Hate to be a ****, but its your own damn fault. Hundreds of times it was posted NOT to update the phone and wait for a ROM based off the official release or wait until root was achieved. Didnt read em? TFB. I hope no one EVER achieves root this time.
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I didn't update. My phone was stolen last week & the replacement I got on Saturday already had 2.1 installed.
So who's the **** now, ****?
I said "hate to be a ****", implying that I was actually being one... /end
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We're getting close.
So $20 to me and $20 to Regaw, or $10 each?
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So you guys finally did it?
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I would wait on the root and keep it private until froyo gets released, the rooting process you guys do come up with might get heard by the wrong person and they could patch it in froyo. this is a common practice when it comes to hacking devices that i have seen, once exploits are found generally the dev waits for the next update that way it can be rooted as well. Just my opinion...
Powers16 said:
I would wait on the root and keep it private until froyo gets released, the rooting process you guys do come up with might get heard by the wrong person and they could patch it in froyo. this is a common practice when it comes to hacking devices that i have seen, once exploits are found generally the dev waits for the next update that way it can be rooted as well. Just my opinion...
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Usually, root is device specific (I think). If Google releases Froyo after our "2.1 root", it most likely wont be patched since the Hero is not on the list to get that upgrade.

Bootloader And Android 2.4

Hello,
I am planing on the Atrix for august when I will be in the US,
And I wonder- do you think the Bootloader will be cracked untill then?
Or Motorola Unlock it/ update to- 2.4?
Thank You,
Daniel
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
Diviance said:
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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I wanted to know as well...
Sigh, August is way to long...
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
Not really pessimistic, just neutral. We can make guesses but there is no way to be certain the loader will be broken or whether motorola will give up and unsign it. They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
danielel said:
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
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Well thats sucks.
2.3 doesn't bring any important changes, and it does take time to make the update.
waste of time..
well it just means that if the devs here won't get to bootloader hacked the milestone story will be back.
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they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
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Ya what happened to them, that thread was booming with new posts every day and randomly it just stopped
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Diviance said:
They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
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Who cares about 2.3? 2.4 is what everyone's after...
GPU-accelerated UI and Browser
Built-in Gtalk video chat support
Multi-language browser support
And as Matias Duarte implied, all the Honeycomb design changes will be in 2.4
So who cares about 2.3? Not me. If the Atrix isn't released unsigned in Canada, and unless the XDA hacks it, I will be going for the Nexus S, and sticking with the Nexus line for the next few years...
Hard to speak about 2.4, as we don't have much of a clue about it. But loading custom kernels and the like is really making me re-think the decision about buying the Atrix...
Not to be a downer in this thread, but I wouldn't hold your breath for the unlocked bootloader, but it is nice that some fresh minds are going at it.
With that said, the devs for the D2 and DX have been able to set the users up with a good amount of customization.
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oh man I will be in Canada for 4 days...I hoped maybe it would be unlocked there.
well I guess I'll just have to check it later...
thank you every one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992326
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?!
HE GOT A WAY TO PASS THE BOOTLOADER!!!!
HOPE HE WILL PUBLISH A WAY TO PASS IT SOON!!!
Its still being tested but DA G has had some success. No one else has posted anything else. I think the reason the bootloader thread has been quiet is because there in an irc were they can talk easier. We prob wont hear anythkng new until they have made some progress. I'm just glad we have the sbf file. That's a big step. Ill be happy if we can get motoblur removed.
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Now Verizon Note4 is getting Lollipop?!? WTF!

Oh man say it ain't so T-Mobile.......
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/04/0...tting-lollipop-starting-today-includes-volte/
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Oh man say it ain't so T-Mobile.......
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/04/0...tting-lollipop-starting-today-includes-volte/
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So is Bell and most other carriers in Canada are scheduled to release within days
I have to ask... What is it that you're expecting to gain from Lollipop? Is there something you're not able to do on KK? Are there apps that you can't use? Sure, I'm waiting for Lollipop too... But I'm waiting patiently because I know ours is going to take a little longer due to WiFi-Calling. It's not as simple as taking what Samsung gives to the carriers and they just slap their software on it. So, seriously... why everyone is crying over Lollipop taking so long?
Plus we cant use xposed still right? So i guess ill be staying on kk
knarfies said:
Plus we cant use xposed still right? So i guess ill be staying on kk
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We can. Wanam xposed isn't ready yet tho if thats what you mean.
Airtioteclint said:
We can. Wanam xposed isn't ready yet tho if thats what you mean.
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I'm pretty sure Xposed still doesn't work on Samsung ROMs.
Consider the tmo version has root and the vzw version hasn't have root until today. It's more lucky to be on this side than there.
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Oh man say it ain't so T-Mobile.......
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You should switch to Verizon to enjoy that lollipop update. yeah, sayb ye to your unlocked bootloader. I don't understand why you complaint.
I dont get it
There is almost nothing in Lolipop thats different. I'll take unlocked bootloaders, root and wifi calling any day.
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We can. Wanam xposed isn't ready yet tho if thats what you mean.
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Plus we cant use xposed still right? So i guess ill be staying on kk
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Xposed doesn't work with Lollipop TouchWiz ROMs. It only works with AOSP/CM based 5.0+ ROMs.
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Xposed doesn't work with Lollipop TouchWiz ROMs. It only works with AOSP/CM based 5.0+ ROMs.
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See thats what i thought so i have to stay on kk. Do they plan on making it work in the future?
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See thats what i thought so i have to stay on kk. Do they plan on making it work in the future?
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I'm sure they're working on it friend. I agree though... Without xposed, I could give two rat turds about lollipop
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See thats what i thought so i have to stay on kk. Do they plan on making it work in the future?
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I'm sure they do. We'll just have to sit back, relax, and wait for it to be released. Until then I'm sticking with good ol' tried and true KitKat.
Verizon lol
Verizon locked bootloaders and stone age cdma technology...... No thanks.
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I'm sure they do. We'll just have to sit back, relax, and wait for it to be released. Until then I'm sticking with good ol' tried and true KitKat.
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Same here man, and thank you for answering my question. Hope you guys have a great weekend!
not too concerned about verizon considering it's still locked in terms of bootloader.
I ain't too worried about LP either.... KK is just fine.
I do wish we had more kernel options though (real kernel options)
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Verizon locked bootloaders and stone age cdma technology...... No thanks.
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I really like trusted devices in lollipop. Yeah you can probably concoct a tasker recipe to do the same thing but it's not as convenient. That being said I can wait on lollipop, however you shouldn't dismiss it as an unimportant update. Tmobile won't be far behind.
The fact that Verizon...............VERIZON got the lollipop update before T-Mobile is very ****ed up on T-Mobile behalf.
The Note 4 has gotten no love since release. Pretty sad for a next gen device.
Lmfao. Might I ask what do you plan on getting when you get lollipop. What is so special about it that a themer can't do.
BAD ASS NOTE 4

ROot or No ROot?

Now i have been reading many and i mean many posting about galaxy s7 edge with 7.0 having root or not... Please can someone tell me with a yes or a no, Does the t-mobile version of the galaxy s7 WITH 7.0 has root?
samsung all can root.
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samsung all can root.
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So is that a yes or a no? I'm curious as well
not sure what samsung all is but i'm sure it's like kingroot which when used it puts the s7 in a bootloop.. wow i can not believe noone has an answer....
The thread directly below yours has the dude who gave us the engboot for MM saying he has it for N, and wants money to release it. Or, it looks like he's saying that at least? Aside from that, no there's no root for our phone on Nougat yet.
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The thread directly below yours has the dude who gave us the engboot for MM saying he has it for N, and wants money to release it. Or, it looks like he's saying that at least? Aside from that, no there's no root for our phone on Nougat yet.
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I call bs on that guy. No proof from him that it works right?
If an ENG kernel exists for N (7.0) it will surface, I don't think that 9 post guy is legit asking for donations.... I call bull shirt. LMAO.
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If an ENG kernel exists for N (7.0) it will surface, I don't think that 9 post guy is legit asking for donations.... I call bull shirt. LMAO.
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Sure as heck not gonna let him do it remotely like he said lol
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Sure as heck not gonna let him do it remotely like he said lol
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OH GOD... he does it remotely!? Yeah that's the ticket
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OH GOD... he does it remotely!? Yeah that's the ticket
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First he mentioned donations, then he mentioned doing it remotely
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First he mentioned donations, then he mentioned doing it remotely
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JusMEJOSE claimed the same thing on the Note 7 forums when the Note 7 came out. Everyone was excited to think it would have root right away and when everyone asked him to release it, he disappeared. People tried to contact him for weeks and he acted like a prick and would not even answer their messages. With that kind of record, Good luck. Only a demented person would believe that if he had it, he would release it. He lies and expects people to not remember? I think he does it for the attention. My memory is pretty good and I remember deceiving people very well. How about releasing it and then asking those who benefited to donate instead? That's what a decent person would do.
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JusMEJOSE claimed the same thing on the Note 7 forums when the Note 7 came out. Everyone was excited to think it would have root right away and when everyone asked him to release it, he disappeared. People tried to contact him for weeks and he acted like a prick and would not even answer their messages. With that kind of record, Good luck. Only a demented person would believe that if he had it, he would release it. He lies and expects people to not remember? I think he does it for the attention. My memory is pretty good and I remember deceiving people very well. How about releasing it and then asking those who benefited to donate instead? That's what a decent person would do.
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Ah OK, so he's got less than zero credibility so far, he has negative credibility lol
Once he said he would do it remotely, that was a dead giveaway lol. Theres no root for N just yet
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71273440&postcount=19
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Root nougat
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3567502

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