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Does anyone know about Kitkat for our note3?

I see that the note 2 is getting it's first update!!!!....since it's been out ....and I am a little bit worried about the rollout of an official version of kitkat.
Also has any heard about current developers working on a kitkat rom?

chefb said:
I see that the note 2 is getting it's first update!!!!....since it's been out ....and I am a little bit worried about the rollout of an official version of kitkat.
Also has any heard about current developers working on a kitkat rom?
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Kitkat rom isn't possible without a leaked TW rom to begin with.

Why so eager? Touchwiz hardly resembles stock Android anyways. Flash player won't ever work with Kitkat. All our recent dev work would have to be redone.. right now is there one good reason we should be itching to get the 4.4 update?

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chefb said:
I see that the note 2 is getting it's first update!!!!....since it's been out ....and I am a little bit worried about the rollout of an official version of kitkat.
Also has any heard about current developers working on a kitkat rom?
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there are some out i heard from a couple of friends, i dont know where though, i am using kitkat on my htc inspire 4g from random blame and it looks cool so far, i like the change from blue to white

toddnbrown said:
Why so eager? Touchwiz hardly resembles stock Android anyways. Flash player won't ever work with Kitkat. All our recent dev work would have to be redone.. right now is there one good reason we should be itching to get the 4.4 update?
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I'm not itching for kitkat....In fact I don't know what the major update is(in kitkat). But the time it took for the last note to receive a update was a year. I've never been on one version of android that long.
So that prompts question are developsers working with the kitkat source on the note while keeping our touchwiz?

kitkat does not excite me that is all you need to know..

chefb said:
I'm not itching for kitkat....In fact I don't know what the major update is(in kitkat). But the time it took for the last note to receive a update was a year. I've never been on one version of android that long.
So that prompts question are developsers working with the kitkat source on the note while keeping our touchwiz?
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We can't flash kernels (yes I know you DE guys can but good luck seeing much development there) so there will be no kitkat without a Samsung leak. AOSP source does nothing for us at all.

I just want 4.4 for google wallet to actually work

akellar said:
We can't flash kernels (yes I know you DE guys can but good luck seeing much development there) so there will be no kitkat without a Samsung leak. AOSP source does nothing for us at all.
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tmobile kernels work that is all the development we need. they run great with no issues

slowz3r said:
I just want 4.4 for google wallet to actually work
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So the Google Wallet that I installed from the play store doesn't work? It seems to launch fine, there are very few places here for me to test it or though.
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kwinders said:
So the Google Wallet that I installed from the play store doesn't work? It seems to launch fine, there are very few places here for me to test it or though.
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There is no tap to pay on it on the note 3
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jbeitel said:
There is no tap to pay on it on the note 3
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that when I posted, I started to research it and I thought that's what I read too but haven't tried to use so didn't know fir sure.
I guess it's more of a Verizon thing that they blocked the function to make you use their service.
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jbeitel said:
There is no tap to pay on it on the note 3
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kwinders said:
Thanks, I wasn't aware of that when I posted, I started to research it and I thought that's what I read too but haven't tried to use so didn't know fir sure.
I guess it's more of a Verizon thing that they blocked the function to make you use their service.
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That's all changed now!!!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wallet-updated-with-kitkat-nfc-host-card-emulation/

sebastianraven said:
That's all changed now!!!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wallet-updated-with-kitkat-nfc-host-card-emulation/
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Nothing has changed. We don't have KitKat (4..4), at least us with consumer versions don't. Until we do, or someone figures out a work around, no "tap to pay" Google Wallet.

G8orDroid said:
Nothing has changed. We don't have KitKat (4..4), at least us with consumer versions don't. Until we do, or someone figures out a work around, no "tap to pay" Google Wallet.
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The whole point was that Google Wallet didn't support the new secure SIMs, Now they do and its just a matter of time before someone ports it over.

sebastianraven said:
The whole point was that Google Wallet didn't support the new secure SIMs, Now they do and its just a matter of time before someone ports it over.
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sebastianraven said:
The whole point was that Google Wallet didn't support the new secure SIMs, Now they do and its just a matter of time before someone ports it over.
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I may be wrong, I'm no Dev, but the way I understand it. It's not so much Wallet supporting it as it is the OS itself. 4.4 supports the host card emulation ability and Wallet was updated to use that ability. I hope I'm wrong, but that's my understanding for what it's worth.
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Samsung hinted to a kit Kat update for the Note 3 scheduled for January of 2014... It's definitely coming
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117micc said:
Samsung hinted to a kit Kat update for the Note 3 scheduled for January of 2014... It's definitely coming
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I hate to be the guy who keeps raining on the parade, but I wouldn't count on our VZW variant getting updated in January. The international version, maybe, but the only way we'll get KitKat by then is if Hashcode or someone cracks the boatloader or Hash gets Kexec working. Just my opinions, of course.

Will lollipop increase the chance of root?

Do you guys think the lollipop update will help the chance of a root method being found? When the update comes out should I do it right then and there or wait to see if lollipop will completely ruin any chance

There was an article from ChainsDD saying that if anything lollipop is more locked down. My bet is, if their going to get root it's going to be on KitKat.

hackthis02 said:
There was an article from ChainsDD saying that if anything lollipop is more locked down. My bet is, if their going to get root it's going to be on KitKat.
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Wouldn't we have root by now then? I only say because KitKat doesn't seem that hard to root even though it varies depending on OEM. I would think since lollipop for the Droid Turbo isn't too far off (we hope) Then devs would just wait til then for root because most people will take the lollipop update. At least that's how it looks to me and this is my opinion

I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.

m4rk0358 said:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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Agreed.

m4rk0358 said:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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Curious what makes you say that? Info? From what I've read it seems like lollipop is going to kill root.

m4rk0358 said:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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Please explain I'm intrigued

To sum up what I think he means is he believes that root will be obtained in lollipop for the Droid Turbo ( Again just guessing)

I think reduces chances of root

I say helps. Because pretty soon all current moto phones will be on lollipop anyways
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I'm by no means a techie-guy, but I really miss root, so I can run Titanium Backup and have the free hot-spot.

DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you guys think the lollipop update will help the chance of a root method being found? When the update comes out should I do it right then and there or wait to see if lollipop will completely ruin any chance
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My opinion is that Kit Kat doesn't have root NOT because its impossible but because the lack of interest from the people that find these exploits, perhaps its just a matter of time before one of these guys gets a Turbo and works on it or so we hope.
Finding these exploits is not easy an requires insane amounts of personal time and resources, often with little reward. I understand that there's a bounty on this site but this site is just a star in a galaxy. Sometimes these exploits are found by Asian hackers not Americans therefore the audience is very limited on a Verizon exclusive device like our Turbo.
I do however believe, and this is just my opinion and perhaps wishful thinking, that Lollipop will shine a spotlight on this device and people will notice it even more and perhaps attract some of these guys willing to spend hours after hours finding that one vulnerability in that one line code where they can inject their own code to achieve root. Good luck to us!

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I'm pretty sure Lollipop will come with root.
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I bet the differ. No phone would come out with an update with root included. An exploit needs to be found. Even chainfire states that root access is going to be harder with lollipop. I dont think we will be seeing root anytime soon. Atleast for a year.

I hope he didn't actually mean the update would be rooted already.

Who do I need to donate/lend a Turbo to for this to happen?

black7 said:
Who do I need to donate/lend a Turbo to for this to happen?
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Currently there is only one person actively working on it and he already has a turbo. The ones that have done this before stated they dont have the time to do this. So no one.

the_rooter said:
Currently there is only one person actively working on it and he already has a turbo. The ones that have done this before stated they dont have the time to do this. So no one.
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Who said they are working on it? Did I miss something?

lafont28 said:
Who said they are working on it? Did I miss something?
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If you read through some of the threads there is one user working on it.

the_rooter said:
If you read through some of the threads there is one user working on it.
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A lot have said they are working on it. None seemed all that credible

lafont28 said:
A lot have said they are working on it. None seemed all that credible
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There is one user more than credible for this. Will he suceed? Idk but he is working on it.

at&t rolling out note 4 lollipop

Seen it on twitter people are recieving at&t lolipop for note 4 come on t mobile you have to be joking.. At&t gets out before you, you kno you suck!!!!! But i know sprints variant is not the same as ours the at&t version might be another story, this might be good for us

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on AT&T finally receiving its Lollipop update
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-att-finally-receiving-its-lollipop-update

that means our tmobile will get it soon.... dont even get sad.. att phone cant be root.

neofreek01 said:
Seen it on twitter people are recieving at&t lolipop for note 4 come on t mobile you have to be joking.. At&t gets out before you, you kno you suck!!!!! But i know sprints variant is not the same as ours the at&t version might be another story, this might be good for us
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We need the att update for real, it will work for us, I need to check, I have to, but no one has come forward yet with the files....

AxAtAx said:
We need the att update for real, it will work for us, I need to check, I have to, but no one has come forward yet with the files....
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It's not on sammobile? ? ?

philliman said:
It's not on sammobile? ? ?
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nope! no where to be found.

I am excite.

I'm in no rush for LP. Take your time T-Mobile.

This is horse****.
Every device I own gets the shift with updates, no matter what carrier.
ATT Moto backflip, moto Atrix, LG Optimus G, and sgs4...
Now this crap. How in the hell is att rolling it out before us?

gregk232 said:
This is horse****.
Every device I own gets the shift with updates, no matter what carrier.
ATT Moto backflip, moto Atrix, LG Optimus G, and sgs4...
Now this crap. How in the hell is att rolling it out before us?
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I knew it, we had a jinx on us....YOU! lol, just messing around. I know it's crazy..

philliman said:
It's not on sammobile?
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Sammobile doesn't have any firmwares for the At&t note 4. Probably because they don't have root yet.

karmandk said:
Sammobile doesn't have any firmwares for the At&t note 4. Probably because they don't have root yet.
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You don't need root to flash official factory images.

T-mobile note 4 has an unlocked bootloader. That's greater than android Z on a locked bootloader device.
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all we need is their update, we are not going to run that pathetic rom, I am going to pull some files out of the update, and we will run the intl bob4 rom, that I have ready....I will flash those files, and see if we have data, and if we do, I will post us some lollipop 5.0....I am getting no help from anyone in the att area that will give us these files....

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all we need is their update, we are not going to run that pathetic rom, I am going to pull some files out of the update, and we will run the intl bob4 rom, that I have ready....I will flash those files, and see if we have data, and if we do, I will post us some lollipop 5.0....I am getting no help from anyone in the att area that will give us these files....
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Sad to see this community the way it is now, I remember when I 1st got here back in the HTC Evo days and it was custom everything thing galore and help out the wazoo, now it's just mess and a few left here that still help, so I appreciate you
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I put my Note 4 up for sale. Nothing but short of miserable with it for the past few weeks. s6 or iPhone 6+ here I come?

nviz22 said:
I put my Note 4 up for sale. Nothing but short of miserable with it for the past few weeks. s6 or iPhone 6+ here I come?
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Ok bye [emoji2]

nviz22 said:
I put my Note 4 up for sale. Nothing but short of miserable with it for the past few weeks. s6 or iPhone 6+ here I come?
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Thanks for sharing.

nviz22 said:
I put my Note 4 up for sale. Nothing but short of miserable with it for the past few weeks. s6 or iPhone 6+ here I come?
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Yeah, the N4 w/ KK is so miserable right....LOL!

nviz22 said:
I put my Note 4 up for sale. Nothing but short of miserable with it for the past few weeks. s6 or iPhone 6+ here I come?
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Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you ✌?

Android Marshmallow Discussion

In case you didn't know, T-Mobile has just confirmed via their support page the list of devices - Note 4 included- receiving Android 6.0 in the upcoming weeks/months.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
Thanks,

Awesome. So we'll probably get it by 2017.

Probably about the same time as Android Nougat is released.

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Probably about the same time as Android Nougat is released.
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Don't you mean Android Zeppole?
Wait... So 5.1.1 was/is being slipped over?

Wow, so really when did T-Mobile fall way behind Verizon as the worst carrier for getting out updates? It used to be Verizon was far worse then all the carriers for getting out updates. I wish Sammy would just make there phones with Vanilla Android and the Spen and features work on those Kernels. Imagine CM with a working Spen suit?

How soon can we expect to see custom Marshmallow ROMs for our devices based on the ASOP Nexus Marshmallow ROMs?

So another 6ish months before we can hope to have an update. Skipping the one we know works. Hopefully Marshmallow isn't nearly as bad as when lollipop 5.0 landed. T-mobile is just about worthless for updates.
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Which version though? the original or the newer T3?

chodaboy19 said:
Which version though? the original or the newer T3?
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I'd imagine it would be both the T and T3
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chodaboy19 said:
Which version though? the original or the newer T3?
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Yoshi1221 said:
I'd imagine it would be both the T and T3
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Yes, my understanding is that both will receive the update.

Its in Phase-1. T-mobile will take 4-5 months to test the software with their crapware, then it will be ready for us .

mtatohin said:
Its in Phase-1. T-mobile will take 4-5 months to test the software with their crapware, then it will be ready for us .
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If the CEO truly wants to be the uncarrier he should get updates to us much faster. ;p

Eric214 said:
Wow, so really when did T-Mobile fall way behind Verizon as the worst carrier for getting out updates? It used to be Verizon was far worse then all the carriers for getting out updates. I wish Sammy would just make there phones with Vanilla Android and the Spen and features work on those Kernels. Imagine CM with a working Spen suit?
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It happened when i moved from verizon to t-mobile

masri1987 said:
It happened when i moved from verizon to t-mobile
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lol I feel your pain. I feel that way. But I'm actually one of those guys that hates battery drains and such so i never ever take a major update untill its been out awhile and i know there aren't issues. That's why I'm still on 4.4.4 running Hyperdrive RLS3 cause 5.0.1 i constantly hear the battery is noticeably worse on 5.0.1 then Kit Kat.
So Updates aren't crazy important to me, it's easy for me to just sit back and wait.

Says it's not in testing anymore

king3opobn said:
Says it's not in testing anymore
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king3opobn said:
Says it's not in testing anymore
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It's in manufacturer development. That is phase 1. Still a long run for testing. [emoji30]
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king3opobn said:
Says it's not in testing anymore
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It never was in testing.

BaHumBug! We, Tmobile customers, should have already learned the lesson by now that this only means a 6-7 month wait for 6.0 (possible bugs too) and most will move on to different phones/carriers by then. I love my Note 4, I think it is still a great overall phone but Tmobile sucks with updates.
Also can't wait for those that will come to this thread lets say about 2-3 months from now that will ask "so did 6.0 come out yet?" or "Any news on 6.0?".

If this article is to be believed, there seems to be a certain Note 4 missing from development by Samsung....
I'll give you a hint... It starts with a T and ends with a Mobile.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-is-working-on-marshmallow-for-these-devices-648189/

Maybe stupid question - maybe not

As many know Sprint S5'S are getting marshmallow.
Would it be possible to port it to Verizon?

Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
As many know Sprint S5'S are getting marshmallow.
Would it be possible to port it to Verizon?
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Just wait it out, it'll come eventually

ldeveraux said:
Just wait it out, it'll come eventually
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I'm worried Verizon will require a bootloader update and make it impossible to root.