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One of the big problems with the iPad other than overheating and under charging is it's poor portability. If you want to use it outside the home then you need a big bag similar to a laptop bag to carry it. The 7.7 easily fits in ladies handbags and fits in jacket pockets making it very portable.
Because the iPad3 is mostly house bound then you need to compare it with other mostly house bound devices such as laptops, netbooks, ultrabooks etc. where it does not fare well.
What is the point of this post, may I ask? Preaching to the converted?
Thanks for your random op/ed.
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What is the point of this post, may I ask? Preaching to the converted?
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What right have you to question the appropriateness of other people's posts?
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Welcome to the internet!
I think he is just haring that the Tab7.7 has better portability and I agree with him, no other tablet can rival its portability.
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I think he is just haring that the Tab7.7 has better portability and I agree with him, no other tablet can rival its portability.
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Perhaps the GT 7.0?
Just joking no offence
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Perhaps the GT 7.0?
Just joking no offence
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Lol its a thicker device!
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Lol its a thicker device!
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I just saw somebody holding a GT 7.0, and yes, the 0.7" make a difference, especially in a case. However, I don't really mind the extra waist of my 7.7.
I too find anything larger than 7.7 to be a bit cumbersome.
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There can be little doubt that the 7.7 tab is more portable than the iPad and for me that was the main reason I got it over the iPad3. Not counting the size and form factor advantage the 7.7 has the iPad3 is the better device in most other areas.
Give me an 8.5 inch screen with 1920x1200 resolution in a package about the same size as the 7.7 and I'd be even happier. And, I'd even PREFER it to be about 1mm thicker for two reasons: first, room for an even bigger battery; and second, I think the 7.7 is a little TOO thin and being a bit thicker would make it easier to hold by the edges.
The iPad is too close in size to a small notebook so it's hardly any more portable than that. The 7.7 is smaller than a sheet of paper (8.5x11) folded in half -- or about the size of a paperback book.
Brian
I've got a cheap Chinese 7 inch tablet as well my 7.7 and i've got to say the .7 really does make a difference in terms of portability. The 7" one fits much more easily in a pocket anss is a lot lighter.
Oh, and the "cheapo" chinese tablet is on ICS and has much more flexible connections than the Sammy.
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I've got a cheap Chinese 7 inch tablet as well my 7.7 and i've got to say the .7 really does make a difference in terms of portability. The 7" one fits much more easily in a pocket anss is a lot lighter.
Oh, and the "cheapo" chinese tablet is on ICS and has much more flexible connections than the Sammy.
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flexible connections ? like what ? can i know the model number thingking of getting 1 as a remote for my htpc and whats the resolution ?
This 7.7 slides easily on my jeans front pocket lol
Everytime I pull it out, people are looking with a confused face 'where in the world thit that huge slab came from' = priceless
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This 7.7 slides easily on my jeans front pocket lol
Everytime I pull it out, people are looking with a confused face 'where in the world thit that huge slab came from' = priceless
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So true but the question I always get is "is that an ipad?" A bit anoying but I always tell them "no its better " lol!!!
Using Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800
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flexible connections ? like what ? can i know the model number thingking of getting 1 as a remote for my htpc and whats the resolution ?
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Hi, well the device i got was this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATPC-M009S-Capacitive-Gingerbread-Responsive/forum/Fx1DBIDSXCYCEJH/-/1/ref=cm_cd_f_h_dp_t?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B006M07X34 Not sure if you can get that where you are, it is a pretty generic android tablet. But it is surpisingly well made and works fine. It is slightly thicker than the 7.7 but noticeably lighter and narrower, which makes it easier to hold in one hand and put in a pocket.
In terms of the connections it has an easily reached microsd slot (no fiddly cover which feels like it is going to snap off any minute), a built-in HDMI (output to 1080), a mini-usb, 3,5 audio and a seperate power in.
The bit that I like is that I can use HDMI directly without having to pass-through the power cord. I can also use all the connections seperately. So in terms of your htpc question, it has actually replace mine. Bluetooth dongle for keyboard/mouse, hdmi to TV, power in or not, wifi connected streaming directly or from files on my PC.
The single proprietary IN on the 7.7 is a bind as far as I am concerned.
It came with 2.3.4 gingerbread on it but there are ICS 4.0.3 FWs to upgrade to - from the manufacturer.
The res is a "lowly" 800x480 but it works for me.
For £100 it is well worth the money, certainly compared to products from a certain company that thinks it sits somewhere on the right hand of whichever deity you might adhere to.
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Hi, well the device i got was this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATPC-M009S-Capacitive-Gingerbread-Responsive/forum/Fx1DBIDSXCYCEJH/-/1/ref=cm_cd_f_h_dp_t?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B006M07X34 Not sure if you can get that where you are, it is a pretty generic android tablet. But it is surpisingly well made and works fine. It is slightly thicker than the 7.7 but noticeably lighter and narrower, which makes it easier to hold in one hand and put in a pocket.
In terms of the connections it has an easily reached microsd slot (no fiddly cover which feels like it is going to snap off any minute), a built-in HDMI (output to 1080), a mini-usb, 3,5 audio and a seperate power in.
The bit that I like is that I can use HDMI directly without having to pass-through the power cord. I can also use all the connections seperately. So in terms of your htpc question, it has actually replace mine. Bluetooth dongle for keyboard/mouse, hdmi to TV, power in or not, wifi connected streaming directly or from files on my PC.
The single proprietary IN on the 7.7 is a bind as far as I am concerned.
It came with 2.3.4 gingerbread on it but there are ICS 4.0.3 FWs to upgrade to - from the manufacturer.
The res is a "lowly" 800x480 but it works for me.
For £100 it is well worth the money, certainly compared to products from a certain company that thinks it sits somewhere on the right hand of whichever deity you might adhere to.
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I have the 7.7 but would not mind it being a tad thicker if that meant an even bigger battery. I would like the bezels to be smaller making it easier to hold on the sides and, once again, I think being a tad thicker would help here as well. But 800x480 -- NO F'n WAY! Not interested.
The Android makers are in a bind with Apple at one end eating up the premium dollars and the Kindle/Nook and Chinese knock offs at the other end driving the price down to unprofitable levels. The 7.7 is expensive and will likely not sell well even though the display is top of the heap and the size and form factor make it more usable than the iPad. When Apple pushes out the 7.85 tab that will be the final nail in the Android tab coffin...
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But 800x480 -- NO F'n WAY! Not interested.
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Ha, ha, ha. Yes, it really makes a world of difference
Oh, and I happen to be in the electronic component distribution industry, I can tell you the final nail in the coffin will be when the manufacturers persist in ripping the public with their vastly inflated prices. Maybe people will fall off the Apple hype wagon ahd those trying to copy them will be forced to re-evaluate their business models. Bring on the kindles and Chinese 'knock offs' (knocking what off I don't know but hey, let's stereotype why not?).
I love my 7.7 but then I didn't pay for it...
The 0.7 inch does make a difference. I had the GT 7 for a year and waited for the 7.7 for a long time for its beautiful screen the thinness. Now that I have it, it is just a tad too big. It will fit in the pants pocket but not as comfortable as the GT7.
Now, all I need is the 7 with AMOLED screen andless than 7mm thick. Next year's Super GT 7 I guess
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Thats funny. As much as I like the iPad, I think the 7.85 form factor is going to be a tougher battle for Apple than the 10". I certainly won't be buying one. I tried the GT 10.1 and that is just too big, not comfortable at all.
To me between 7 to 10 (only in the 4:3 aspect ratio of the iPAD, not 16:9) is the ideal size for a tablet. And the Android devices certainly offer more choices in that range.
If Apple is smart they'd sell the 7.85 at cost to get a large percentage of the market. After all, they make 30% off of the apps and media they sell so they can sell the 7.85 at cost, kill Android in the process, and still make money from apps and media. They won't be able to so easily do this in the smart phone space, but tablets are another thing and Apple, if they play things smart, could kill Android in tablets and still profit.
When I say kill Android I'm not counting the Kindle or Nook and maybe some of the cheap Chinese ones but the major players looking to build quality tabs will not be able to do so AND make a profit...
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Seems simple as they are almost the same we should go for cheaper one...but...
is getting Samsung really a better deal?
Your thoughts? Which hybrid with Atom is the best choice and why?
I own the Samsung 500t. What I like about it besides being $200 cheaper, is the rotation lock button, full sized USB port, and a slot to store the s-pen. What I don't like is the glossy slippery plastic back, the weak speakers, and lack of second battery in the dock.
The TF810 looks like it has better build quality with mostly aluminum and some plastic, shouldn't be slippery, I think the "Quad-Speakers" are probably going to sound better. It's got a brighter Super IPS+ screen which helps if you need to use the tablet outside. And it has a second battery in the dock. Oh and it is just better looking too.
The Atom is okay, but it's video playback kinda sucks. It seems many of these Atom tablets have various driver quirks that are still being worked out. Things just don't seem to be quite ready yet and I'm already second guessing the wisdom of spending $750 on the Samsung. So I definitely wouldn't pay $950 for the ASUS (with dock).
I'm looking at the HP Envy X2 also. HP has it on sale for $750 (not sure how long this sale will last), that includes the dock. I really like the all aluminum build and the latch mechanism doesn't stick out as much as other tablets. It's also get a second battery in the dock, but has no stylus or a Wacom digitizer (apparently uses some cheaper digitizer). And some day the keyboard isn't that good either.
Seems like all the Atom tablets have some downsides that we have to figure out which ones we can accept.
I'm also thinking about just giving up on the whole keyboard docking thing and saving some money and getting a 10 inch ASUS VivoTab Smart. At least it'll make a better tablet being lighter and easier to hold. And I can prop it up in a stand and use a bluetooth keyboard. And lastly I won't feel so bad spending so much money to be a first generation Windows 8 tablet guinea pig.
Lenovo Lynx is looking pretty good too. $600 for the tablet, $150 for the dock.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tablet/ideatab/lynx-k3011/?menu-id=learn&ref-id=learn
Being a Lenovo that means the keyboard should be pretty good, and the keyboard dock has a battery. Built quality looks quite nice overall, and a textured back appears grippy and finger print resistant. It has no pen though. And what really makes me nervous is the specs say the micro SD slot supports up to 32GB. No SDXC in 2013, seriously? I'm really thinking that's got to be a mistake, but I'm not sure. It's definitely a deal breaker if it isn't a mistake.
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I own the Samsung 500t. What I like about it besides being $200 cheaper, is the rotation lock button, full sized USB port, and a slot to store the s-pen. What I don't like is the glossy slippery plastic back, the weak speakers, and lack of second battery in the dock.
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That is a true downside. I got Galaxy S3 and I have dropped it few times beacuse back has no grip at all , I suppose laptop/tablet will be less mobile than phone but still it should allow me to carry it in safety.
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The TF810 looks like it has better build quality with mostly aluminum and some plastic, shouldn't be slippery, I think the "Quad-Speakers" are probably going to sound better. It's got a brighter Super IPS+ screen which helps if you need to use the tablet outside. And it has a second battery in the dock. Oh and it is just better looking too.
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My thoughts exactly. So fat I have only seen 500t in reality as Vivo Tab is not in shops yet... but I just like the way it look.
One more downside of Asus in Poland is TERRIBLE warranty service. Services are being run by small companies that have agreement with Asus Poland and in most cases they blame user for everything - standard reply is "Seal was broken/tempered with - warranty void" even having pictures of it before send for repairs is not helping .
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The Atom is okay, but it's video playback kinda sucks. It seems many of these Atom tablets have various driver quirks that are still being worked out.
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What exactly are your issues?
This device that I will buy has to be able to play (smoothly) most video formats, most popular being .mkv 720p.
If this has similar problems to "old" Tegra 2 devices (remeber?) than it is a BIG PROBLEM.
On the other hand I used to have old Asus 1201n netbook with dual-core Atom 300 and first gen. Nvidia Ion onboard and it played everything without an issue (12" screen with 1366x768).
So... what is going on here?
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I'm looking at the HP Envy X2 also. HP has it on sale for $750
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Saw it... don't like it either. Had HP/Compaq in the past and always had problems with them.
Since hardware of HP and 500t is the same I would go with Samsung in this one (I guess).
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Seems like all the Atom tablets have some downsides that we have to figure out which ones we can accept.
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More details, please
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I'm also thinking about just giving up on the whole keyboard docking thing and saving some money and getting a 10 inch ASUS VivoTab Smart.
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I was considering it, but in my case size of screen matters . When I write texts I work with few windows an 10" is just to small .
What's the difference between the tf810 and the tf810c? Is there a tf810 with LTE or any cellular connectivity?
Also the Samsung device looks to be a afterthought device from Samsung. Avoid
If its possible, I'd say wait another season or two for more competition.
If not, go TF810.
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What's the difference between the tf810 and the tf810c? Is there a tf810 with LTE or any cellular connectivity?
Also the Samsung device looks to be a afterthought device from Samsung. Avoid
If its possible, I'd say wait another season or two for more competition.
If not, go TF810.
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Can't wait I am waiting last 2 year to replace iPad with something that will do what I need.
I need Windows to work, I need mobile device to work away from home during weekends ( yes I know)
And I dont want just laptop as I has to be entertainment device as well.
Why do you say: Samsung device looks to be a afterthought device...?
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Can't wait I am waiting last 2 year to replace iPad with something that will do what I need.
I need Windows to work, I need mobile device to work away from home during weekends ( yes I know)
And I dont want just laptop as I has to be entertainment device as well.
Why do you say: Samsung device looks to be a afterthought device...?
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In terms of the Samsung device, its build quality looks to be just as bad as it's phones. Samsung laptops are probably the best in the world (Series 9) To see the ATIV coming from them is a clear sign that they didn't really put much thought into it, especially when you compare it to DELL and ASUS' hybrids.
Looks like we're in the same situation. I cannot wait either :-/
I just posted this so maybe you'll find some help alongside of me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2093981
Thanks for link.
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I have a TF810C and it's beautiful, the battery life is quite incredible. I consider this device perfect, except for the downsides:
-Slightly visible pixels at normal viewing distance, due to lowish resolution screen
-The pen bugs out when drawing 1cm near the edges of the screen
-The pen lacks drivers, and so does not work for Photoshop or nearly anything else. It works with some Windows 8 apps and both desktop & metro OneNote. When it does work, it works really well.
-Tinny speakers that are situated at the back of the tablet. They get a little bit distorted.
-No complex gestures for the touchpad. I like to tap on the right click area instead of pressing down, but the drivers for the tablet don't allow this!
-Dodgy, dodgy chipset drivers. Expect a BSOD every 2 days, sound that completely breaks until you reboot once a day, stability problems, unresponsive touchpad when waking from sleep, etc. These can happily be fixed by installing Samsung/HP/Acer drivers.
-No ASUS support at all. Drivers are not being updated, and the website doesn't even list the device correctly.
-The CPU can't handle fast-moving 720p 10bit .mkv files in VLC Player. Media Player Classic works, but it breaks for complex subtitles. Thankfully, a kickstarter for Windows 8-style VLC Player has been funded, and may offer better performance.
...And that's pretty much it for the problems. Every last one of them.
The tablet is thin, light, shiny, has a colourful and bright display, well-balanced with the keyboard dock, brilliant in every other way.
I can definitely recommend it, and hope that ASUS will eventually get around to fixing these problems rather than making users depend on other devices' drivers.
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What exactly are your issues?
This device that I will buy has to be able to play (smoothly) most video formats, most popular being .mkv 720p.
If this has similar problems to "old" Tegra 2 devices (remeber?) than it is a BIG PROBLEM.
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It's fortunately not as bad as the Tegra 2. I'm not sure if it's a hardware issue or maybe just a driver issue. I have trouble playing back some 1080p videos, there are noticeable frame drops. Stream HD video from Amazon Prime or YouTube gets choppy sometimes (not referring to buffering issues) as it's dropping frames. The ABC Player app in the Windows Store also drops frames. The Netflix app however seems to work flawlessly. And if I download 1080p YouTube videos and play them back with VLC that seem to work fine usually. 720p MVK files work most of the time, think I've had some higher bit rate ones that got choppy sometimes.
I have a smoother and more reliable video playback experience with my Kindle Fire HD. I'm hoping this is just a driver issue and things will get smoothed out soon.
Other driver issues...
Wireless sometimes has trouble reconnecting to an access point with bluetooth is being used. Some have also mentioned dramatic slows with wifi using bluetooth, though I haven't done any file transfers while using my bluetooth mouse yet, so haven't seen that first hand yet. If I disable the bluetooth the wireless never seems to have trouble reconnecting, only with bluetooth on.
The keyboard/trackpad don't seem to go to sleep when the tablet does. With the tablet in the keyboard dock, if I close lid this often causes the tablet to wake back up, even the screen will come back on. And it make stay on. I've also found that apps I didn't open will open up after I close the lid. I the tablet coming within close proximity of the trackpad while it's close is causing it to register clicks or interaction and wake up and run apps. I now have to manually press Fn-F5 to disable the track pad before closing the tablet lid on the keyboard. This seems to help a lot and now the tablet will go to sleep most of the time. Hopefully a driver update will make the keyboard/trackpad also sleep at some point.
However I don't think the keyboard/trackpad is the only issue preventing the tablet from going to sleep. Seems like if I have some applications running it has trouble sleeping as well. So if it doesn't sleep I may need to close some apps or go back to the Windows Start screen.
The audio is inconsistent. Sometimes the volume sounds good and sufficient and other times I have a real hard time hearing it. It's different on an app by app basis. Hopefully this can be improved through drivers.
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I seem to run into big cons with each tablet I look at...
Samsung 500T, slippery back, no secondary battery.
ASUS TF810, expensive, no pen silo.
HP Envy X2, No pen, poor keyboard.
Acer W510, Too small, poor keyboard.
Lenovo Lynx, No pen, 32GB SD limitation.
Lenovo Tabet 2, No keyboard dock.
Dell Latitude 10, No keyboard dock, too small.
Pick your poison. I'd prefer a keyboard dock that converts the tablet into a clamshell laptop design (so I'm not a fan of the Surface kickstand and type cover design). 10 inch tablets mean the keyboard is going to be too cramped, so the W510 is too small (and the Dell is too if it had a keyboard).
Originally I didn't care about a pen, however after using the Samsung 510T for a while, I'm starting to realize the pen is pretty nice to have. It helps with desktop apps, such as when I want to highlight some text in the browser, which seems to be impossible to do by finger. I don't ink on my tablets, so the pen is just to make working with the desktop apps easier. And I need to be able to store the pen in the tablet otherwise it'll be hugely inconvenient. This is probably the one con I can overlook, I think I could live without the pen, it's just something I'd really like to have.
Seems like on the Lenovo Lynx has the 32GB micro SD limitation. I already own a 64GB microSD card and I got to be able to use this with my tablet. 64GB is going to already be cramped on the tablet (only about 32 to 40GB is available depending on the size of the recovery partition). I'm hoping the 32GB limit is an error in the specs list, but it's mentioned more than once in different places.
Lack of secondary battery is more an annoyance. So far I've been able to get through an entire tablet with my Samsung 500T despite not having a second battery. I'm also not using the tablet constantly all day long, but I do use if frequently through out the day. And the battery life of the Atom is already impressive. So it's disappointing there is no second battery, but it's not a deal breaker.
A slippery back on a tablet almost is a deal breaker. While I don't feel like there is any danger of dropping it, it's so huge, so it won't slip out of your hands that fast. But it does make holding it even more awkward than the weight and size already make. Fortunately this potential deal breaker issue is somewhat solved with a skin I put on the back from Decalrus. The skin is smooth, but it is still a decent improvement than the glossy plastic of the tablet. It doesn't feel slippery anymore.
At this moment I'm probably going to end up keeping my Samsung 500T. If the Lenovo Lynx supported 64GB micro SD then I'd be highly tempted to switch to that. However if the sleep issues with the Samsung keyboard keeps bothering me, it's possible I just may give up on a tablet+keyboard=laptop dream and just go with a pure 10 inch tablet without keyboard and get an ASUS ME400 (VivoTab Smart) and save myself $250. And wait for the Bay Trail tablet at the end of the year.
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One positive thing about the 500T. Despite some driver issus with the wireless, it seems like Samsung has been doing a good job with driver updates. And the tablet has been quite stable. I've never had a bluescreen of death and don't need to reboot it.
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A slippery back on a tablet almost is a deal breaker. While I don't feel like there is any danger of dropping it, it's so huge, so it won't slip out of your hands that fast. But it does make holding it even more awkward than the weight and size already make. Fortunately this potential deal breaker issue is somewhat solved with a skin I put on the back from Decalrus. The skin is smooth, but it is still a decent improvement than the glossy plastic of the tablet. It doesn't feel slippery anymore.
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It seems a couple people posted about the slippery back of the Samsung ATIV 500T. I have owned this tablet for about 3 weeks now and I have had no issues at all with the material on the back of the tablet. Honestly I dont even feel like it is slippery. Its not like my fingers glide across the back when I am gripping it. Or I have never set it on a surface and feared that it would glide to the other end and fall to the ground. Just my opinion.
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It seems a couple people posted about the slippery back of the Samsung ATIV 500T. I have owned this tablet for about 3 weeks now and I have had no issues at all with the material on the back of the tablet. Honestly I dont even feel like it is slippery. Its not like my fingers glide across the back when I am gripping it. Or I have never set it on a surface and feared that it would glide to the other end and fall to the ground. Just my opinion.
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The back is smooth glossy plastic. When your hands are perfectly dry there is no issue. Unfortunately for us humans, up to 60% of our body is water and most of us have a little bit of moisture that forms in our palms. So unless you are constantly rubbing your hands dry and wiping the back of the tablet with a cloth, it's going to get slippery for most people.
I have no fear it's going to just pop out of my hands like a wet bar of soap. But it's difficult to hold in the palm of one hand while interacting with the screen, because it keeps slipping.
This back is one of the big reasons I'm returning mine. It's just too much of a hassle.
In all those devices with 64GB SSD - how much space is left for user?
A base Win8 64-bit install will use ~15GB, counting pagefile, hiberfile, etc. (size highly variable on the amount of RAM installed, among other things). Adding things like Office and the legacy .NET frameworks will drive that up somewhat. Realistically, If there's a recovery partition (likely), it'll probably be at least 5GB and possibly as much as 15GB (if there's a ton of pre-loaded crap) but that just depends on where you get it from, and you can create external recovery media (flashdrive or similar), nuke the recovery partition, and extend the main partition into the space. Realistically, I'd say you should expect to have 30-40GB of fully usable free space - you can go higher than that, especially if you disable hibernate, but it will slow things down if the storage gets too full.
Thanks for the info - that is all I needed to know.
As far as I understand there will be no problem in moving recovery partition to USB drive/NAS disk/ or even to cloud (Skydrive) just for storage?
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Thanks for the info - that is all I needed to know.
As far as I understand there will be no problem in moving recovery partition to USB drive/NAS disk/ or even to cloud (Skydrive) just for storage?
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You can move it to a USB flash drive, it needs about 8GB of space. I probably wouldn't put it in a cloud drive since if you actually need it it'll need to be on a USB flash drive anyway.
BTW, with my Samsung 500T, I sometimes had to reboot twice before it would recognize the USB recovery drive (USB boot is weird on this thing).
Hi Guys, I had both the Ativ 500t and now the TF810. For me the 500t seemed slower and seemed to freeze. so I returned it and last week I got the TF810 for my Bday. It is so much better quality and performance. I also had a huge problem with the keyboard disconnecting on the 500t. The keyboard is soo much better with the TF810 and the battery adds atleast an additional 8hours. All this aside I ended up winning a contest at work and will receive the surface pro when released so I will probably sell the TF810 and throw in the Keyboard for free. It turns out we just missed out on the extended return with Amazon holiday because Adorama is only 15days into the new year.
Out of the 2 the TF810 for me was the far better machine. Granted I have only used it for a week but everything from the Pen on is so much better.
Great to hear that my decision to spend more and get Tf810 was/is a good one
Before you sell the TF810, it would be interesting to observe your comparison with the Surface Pro. I have the Surface RT and love it, but I'd like to see some comparisons of the x86 options. The Surface is very tablet-y; it can be used as a laptop (I have the Touch Cover, which works but is not perfect) but even with the kickstand and all, it feels a bit more natural as a tablet. I'm worried that Surface Pro may try a little too hard to be a tablet (despite its disadvantages in weight, thickness, etc.), and end up being good at neither.
If I still have it when the Pro comes I will do the comp video. But right now it is on EBay with keyboard included for only $799 so I doubt it will last long. As it is priced to sell.
Hi all
Please help me. I am getting really confused with ME400 specification.
Especially with those few listed below:
- Does it have Wacom stylus support?
- Does it have Gorilla glass?
- Does it have full GPS?
Additionally what exactly is in the box?
Mini USB to USB adapter? Any other cables?
How does it compare to Dell Latitude 10 Essential? Is it worth considering?
I am almost ready to buy it (if only stylus is supported), will it be a good choice in this price range? I am looking for iPad replacement not laptop replacement so docking station is not essential for me.
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- Does it have Wacom stylus support?
- Does it have Gorilla glass?
- Does it have full GPS?
Additionally what exactly is in the box?
Mini USB to USB adapter? Any other cables?
How does it compare to Dell Latitude 10 Essential? Is it worth considering?
I am almost ready to buy it (if only stylus is supported), will it be a good choice in this price range? I am looking for iPad replacement not laptop replacement so docking station is not essential for me.
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No, you want the Vivotab 11.6" version.
No, scratch resistant but not Gorilla, or else they would proudly advertise it. Most likely, it is a corning glass like what Nexus 7 got but not Gorilla.
Yes, full GPS but good luck figuring out what app that uses it. I haven't found one.
You get the tablet, USB-AC power adapter, Micro USB to USB cable, and I got some small documentation. That's it.
Dell Latitude is only 32GB (which is probably about half usable out of the box) compared to the Asus 64GB (half usable). Dell has gorilla glass. I don't know if the Asus is 5 touch multi or 10 touch multi but Dell states there's is 10 touch.
Dell has slightly bigger battery, and a 802.11 dual band card. Asus is single band (2.4ghz) wifi card.
Dell looks to have proprietary power charger. Asus chargers over the Micro USB port.
Asus is plastic build, Dell looks to have better build quality.
Asus has micro SDXC slot, Dell is full SD.
Dell is slightly heavier (80g) than the Asus.
Dell removed the mini HDMI port, Asus has this
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices, Dell has a full size USB port.
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No, you want the Vivotab 11.6" version.
No, scratch resistant but not Gorilla, or else they would proudly advertise it. Most likely, it is a corning glass like what Nexus 7 got but not Gorilla.
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As far as i know, all vivotabs are corning, no matter which version.
Even the vivotab 11.5" which has the stylus is corning.
Just did some research, Corning is Gorilla Glass.
Hmmm the highest model the normal vivotab advertises that.
According to this the smart is also corning, but cannot verify.
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/answers/...-black-questions-answers/questions.htm?page=2
Thank you very much for your answers. it seems that Dell is quite good choice.i need to check if they they offering it with 64gb as well.
One more thing how about Wacom stylus support withMe400? For example styluses from Samsung Note would they work? I found on Asus Web page that Wacom Styluses would but it was mentioned in Smart Note description so I am asking for first hand experience as on their page it could be copy /paste from 810 description for example,
In terms of Vivotap11,6 do you mean TF810? If so, I was looking at it and if ME400 is supporting stylus there is nothing tempting for me. I don't need docking station and already have bluetooth keyboard. 9.5h is more than enough for me. and price is 1.5 time of Me400 I really look for iPad replacement and laptop experience is not my requirement especially if this drives price up. on the paper both devices share similar specs processor, memory storage.
Can you advise what else beside docking station and larger display TF810 has to offer?
Wacom stylus are active, ME400c only can use passive stylus. There are some that are fine tip (JotNot comes to mind) that are passive.
TF810 is the one I was referring to, yes.
TF810 has active stylus (Wacom) support.
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Wacom stylus are active, ME400c only can use passive stylus. There are some that are fine tip (JotNot comes to mind) that are passive.
TF810 is the one I was referring to, yes.
TF810 has active stylus (Wacom) support.
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Is this confirmed information? Did you or anybody checked ie Samsung Note styluses? As this suggest that there is error on Asus page:
http://uk.asus.com/Tablet/VivoTab/ASUS_VivoTab_Smart/
SuperNote
SuperNote is a versatile multimedia note taking app that allows users to input & share through a variety of options: use your finger to draw, the Wacom stylus to sketch and the mobile dock to type. Include photo and video captures, or even audio notes.
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Please can anybody who has this device to confirm this in use. I have to be 1000% sure as this would be a deal breaker for me
Send me a wacom active stylus and i'll test it for you.
As it is, it does not have a digitizer so the active stylus won't work. Wacom does make stylus for capacitive screens without a wacom digitizer installed (which the 810FC has)
If you look here, the specs for the 810 show a wacom digitizer, the ME400c does not
http://www.asus.com/vivo/en/vivoTab.htm
@caudex
Corning makes Gorilla glass but also makes glass that is not Gorilla. Simply associating any glass made by Corning to be Gorilla glass is incorrect. That's equivalent to saying that since Chrysler makes Hemi, that all cars Chrysler makes have Hemi.
The Corning glass used by Asus in the Vivotab RT and the Nexus 7 are Corning Fit Glass. They are advertised as scratch resistant, but not as Gorilla glass.
Asus advertises the Vivotab 810C as having Corning Fit, not Corning Gorilla Glass. ME400c only advertised as scratch resistant.
11.6“ Ratio: 16:9 ( 1366x768 ) LED Backlight screen with IPS
Scratch resistant Corning® Fit Glass, anti-fingerprint, Super IPS+
Thank you guys for all answers. Now I have to decide if I can live without active stylus.. I will need it only for note taking and some sketches so this Jot stylus could do the trick.
What are your opinion on Acer W510 vs ME400 as price is almost the same (if you add keyboard and cover to ME400).
Also is there a point waiting until MWC 2013 to see what premieres will take place?
Is there any technological revolution just behind corner worth waiting? Any new atom processors sooner than Bay Trial? As if I got it correct this one is due to be released late 2013 so devices with this chip will hit market early 2014.
Thanks for helping.
I just got an ASUS vivotab smart tablet
Are you sure that the ASUS micro-USB port would work with an OTG adapter and it is not just for charging the tablet? THANKS
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices
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No, you want the Vivotab 11.6" version.
No, scratch resistant but not Gorilla, or else they would proudly advertise it. Most likely, it is a corning glass like what Nexus 7 got but not Gorilla.
Yes, full GPS but good luck figuring out what app that uses it. I haven't found one.
You get the tablet, USB-AC power adapter, Micro USB to USB cable, and I got some small documentation. That's it.
Dell Latitude is only 32GB (which is probably about half usable out of the box) compared to the Asus 64GB (half usable). Dell has gorilla glass. I don't know if the Asus is 5 touch multi or 10 touch multi but Dell states there's is 10 touch.
Dell has slightly bigger battery, and a 802.11 dual band card. Asus is single band (2.4ghz) wifi card.
Dell looks to have proprietary power charger. Asus chargers over the Micro USB port.
Asus is plastic build, Dell looks to have better build quality.
Asus has micro SDXC slot, Dell is full SD.
Dell is slightly heavier (80g) than the Asus.
Dell removed the mini HDMI port, Asus has this
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices, Dell has a full size USB port.
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Thank you guys for all answers. Now I have to decide if I can live without active stylus.. I will need it only for note taking and some sketches so this Jot stylus could do the trick.
What are your opinion on Acer W510 vs ME400 as price is almost the same (if you add keyboard and cover to ME400).
Also is there a point waiting until MWC 2013 to see what premieres will take place?
Is there any technological revolution just behind corner worth waiting? Any new atom processors sooner than Bay Trial? As if I got it correct this one is due to be released late 2013 so devices with this chip will hit market early 2014.
Thanks for helping.
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The Acer is pretty nice, not a whole lot different than the Asus, though they are slightly different prices here ($100 more for the W510, no dock). The $100 price difference in favour of the Vivotab is the main reason I bought one over the Acer.
You could wait but if you think you're going to get a faster processor for this with the same battery life, it won't be until closer to q3/q4 if anything when they release Bay Trail, the upgrade to the current CPU. Don't expect Haswell to be it, at more than 4x the TDP for the lowest power chip. Same with AMD. The main thing I would like to see is either more storage space for the same price (possible) or a faster drive (mSATA or the like, not eMMC). I suppose USB 3.0 could come but that is probably for Bay Trail as well.
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Are you sure that the ASUS micro-USB port would work with an OTG adapter and it is not just for charging the tablet? THANKS
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices
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Yes, it works, as I use it with USB drives all the time. I have only a cheap $1 USB OTG from ebay and no problem.
Hi all
Thanks to all your replies I made my decision. Knowing all of the above I know way to expect and hopefully I will not be disappointed. I am going to buy ME400
Is there any case you can recommend? How about Vivo RT cases? Will they fit? Dimensions are almost identical. How the rest? Ports? Cameras? Speakers?
Are there any issues or problems you have faced?
Dead pixels? Yellowish spots? Rattling noises? Bad speakers or anything else to pay attention for?
Thanks guys
I haven't found any problems with it. Windows capacitive button can
I normally use headphones but my son has used it for his videos and no problems with the audio. I'm not listening to them for audiophile reasons, they are just tinny speakers after all.
I have'nt found a case yet, which is frustrating. Amazon is showing moko cases coming out in 2 weeks.
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I haven't found any problems with it. Windows capacitive button can
I normally use headphones but my son has used it for his videos and no problems with the audio. I'm not listening to them for audiophile reasons, they are just tinny speakers after all.
I have'nt found a case yet, which is frustrating. Amazon is showing moko cases coming out in 2 weeks.
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I was looking at this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/IVSO®-TF600...OMAW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360184082&sr=8-2
It's for tf600 but its dimensions are almost identical to me400.
Now waiting for me400 to be back in stock. Btw I ordered screen protector for tf600
My ME400 arrived home yesterday and today is going back. It has a flake or dust under the glass. Looking closely you can see that it's kind or shard pressing screen itself.
Do you have any problems with Me400 screens?
No problems with my screen. Opened a white/black powerpoint presentation in slideshow mode to check for stuck pixels or anything under the screen.
Soon I will have "faulty-LCD-Fobia" this is second ME400 I have. First has the dust under glass and now second has sligh light leak in the left bottom corner (but I could still live with it) but the two bright spots I won't tolerate.
They are actually much more visible in reality than on the photo. I cannot really explain what they are. They are invisible on black background. White or bright background make them visible.
You can call me Mega-jinx but I have been replacing my iPad 2 nine times due to dead pixels. The 9th is perfectly fine.
With ME400 I hope NOT to break this record.
Keep the fingers cross.
Guys,
I'd like to know if someone can share the drivers and BIOS (newer) that received by Asus Live Update?
I'm trying a lot of times to get the update but the asus live update can't work anymore.
Thank you!
I got my 3rd tablet this time (touch the wood) is perfect
Regarding to bios - its updated itself via asus update but I have no idea if or where it saves those files. Tried to find it without sucess. Sorry
I have a Galaxy Note and Galaxy Note 2.
The stylus DOES NOT work with the ME400. Like previous posters have mentioned, this is not a wacom digitizer tablet. Passive stylus is the way you have to go.
OTG cables work, waiting to confirm that Micro SDXC works in this device. However, posters in another thread have confirmed this.
In my opinion, Vivotab RT cases should work fine with this device. Nearly identical with minor differences. If anything, the RT has more things to consider regarding cases. Keyboard doc, additional speaker, dock lock slider switch etc.
LOVE my 400. Had it about a week. Use Onenote (Home and Student edition) which syncs perfect on Skydrive across my other machines, Got a free Outlook 2013 from my exchange server carrier, and the battery is fabulous. I bought the Moko Slim case and Ink pen/stylus on Amazon which now comes for the 400 for a perfect fit.
Only suggestion I have for new users is to go to Display setting and turn the percentage up to 140 - 150 so your fingers will work on the Desktop mode easier, and better on the eyes.
Pefect cross over machine for me for business and casual media reader.
USB works perfect with the dongles, even a USB hub. Only wish it could charge through the hub, won't work.
I'll leave photoshop my my nice fast desktop with the 26" monitor.
How does the Duo 11 compare with the rest of the current Windows 8 tablets/ultrabooks?
From all the reviews that I have read, it seems to be a very capable machine with a lot more ports and features than anything else available in the market.
Any one has any experience with it ?
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After looking at Lenovo then waiting for surface pro to come out, I bought a duo 11, had it over a month now and I am very satisfied.
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After looking at Lenovo then waiting for surface pro to come out, I bought a duo 11, had it over a month now and I am very satisfied.
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Surprisingly there is not a whole lot of talk about Duo 11 anywhere, even though it a full featured tablet/ultrabook.
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Surprisingly there is not a whole lot of talk about Duo 11 anywhere, even though it a full featured tablet/ultrabook.
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Early reviews wrote it off for cramped keyboard and no trackpad. They basically disregarded the form factor entirely for this model. All reviews said it's an awesome machine, with bad battery life, and heavy, difficult to type. Some dinged it for always having the screen exposed. Nice looking machine though, I looked very closely at that one.
I ended up ordering one. Lets see how it turns out.
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I have one. Battery life is only about 3 hours unless you get the additional sheet battery which doubles it.
I like it a lot. I use it as a desktop most of the time (with 4 monitors and wireless keyboard and mouse) and as a laptop or tablet occasionally. As a tablet it is heavy but powerful. The keyboard is cramped but fine for on the go use.
The form factor is fantastic on planes.
They have apparently brought out a new version in Japan with better battery life, bigger hard drive and faster processors.
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I received my Duo 11 on Friday and I like it a lot so far. It is the latest version with 1.8 Ghz i5. I have not tested the battery yet but it does seem a lot less than my Acer W700 (which easily lasts around 6-7 hours). I plan on picking up the sheet battery and case but it seems like both items are out of stock everywhere, specially the case.
In my little use, I have found that I have absolutely no use of the pen and having no place to put it in the tablet makes it even worse. I already lost it couple of times so I just ended up putting it back in the box. Hopefully, once I get the case or sheet battery, I will take it out.
Has anyone found any good case of the tablet (other than the Sony one) ? On another forum, people mentioned that we should be able to use Macbook Air 13" cases but I have not test that.
The sheet battery has a slot for the pen. The Sony case doesn't seem to have space for the power supply nor a shoulder strap so I returned it without opening it. I ended up with a targus 13" case that is OK without being flash.
Be wary if planning to do any photo editing etc the pen drivers are not compatible with apos like Photoshop etc
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Be wary if planning to do any photo editing etc the pen drivers are not compatible with apos like Photoshop etc
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fixes have been promised for that.
SeanX said:
The sheet battery has a slot for the pen. The Sony case doesn't seem to have space for the power supply nor a shoulder strap so I returned it without opening it. I ended up with a targus 13" case that is OK without being flash.
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Which Targus case did you get?
Good to know but time will tell. Its the one thing that put me off it as i do photography
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Which Targus case did you get?
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This one (I think)
You could probably go a bit smaller so long as you have space for the power supply.
Currently using mine at the moment while writing this post. I have small hands and so the keyboard does not feel very cramped at all to write on. Another thing I would like to mention is that this machine is very capable of running almost everything I've thrown at it, from editing software to video games. It probably wont run crysis 3 or anything, but handles Skyrim fine at 30fps on low settings. My girlfriend owns the Microsoft surface pro and side by side the Sony duo 11 is slightly thicker and of course a bit larger (11.6 vs 10.6) but not to where it's a monster compared to the surface. The duo does have a slightly thicker bezel which makes the length a bit longer but this gives my hands ease of use without the fear of accidently touching the screen while handling it in different positions. Another huge plus is that the windows key is an ACUTAL button unlike other tablet/pc devices so your hands don't accidently graze the bezel and get sent to the start screen (a problem my girlfriends surface has). In terms of weight between the two devices is pretty small and not noticeable at all. Although the surface is about 1.8gs and the duo is 2.8gs the weight distribution is much better on the duo and causing it to feel almost lighter then the surface.
So if your trying to decide what to get, the question you first must ask yourself is what do you want more; portability, or functionality? The surface gives you the same specs but in a smaller package(plus the totally awesome touch/type covers) vs the Sony duo which offers a larger screen estate and more ports (2x usb 3.0, vga, hdmi out, SD/pro duo slot, Ethernet port) Performance they are very similar in processing power and battery life, however the Sony duo does offer a sheet battery option that will double the life of your device, at the cost of weight, and portability. For all you graphic artist out there who are wondering about the pens that are included in both devices, the surface pro uses Wacom tablet pen vs the Sony's N-Trig pen. There is much debate about which is better but overall they have their pros and cons. Wacom tablets have more pressure sensitivity, but the screen tracking on the surface is horrid (gets especially worse near the edges), while the N-Trigs have more accuracy but lacks pressure sensitivity. Neither has wintab drivers for pressure sensitivity on adobe software, and both promises further support but that has yet to be seen.
Ps. Did I mention the Sony has a gorgeous backlit keyboard
I bought a I7 Duo, the latest version Sony came out with. The battery life is better, and I like the laptop. Very powerful, and I have big hands. The keyboard is fine to me. As for the mouse, I bought a bluetooth fold mouse for that. Worked fine. I have a 256 drive, and a 1tb passport. Works well. Hell I may even load WoW to see how it runs.
Just need to get use to windows 8.
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I bought a I7 Duo, the latest version Sony came out with. The battery life is better, and I like the laptop. Very powerful, and I have big hands. The keyboard is fine to me. As for the mouse, I bought a bluetooth fold mouse for that. Worked fine. I have a 256 drive, and a 1tb passport. Works well. Hell I may even load WoW to see how it runs.
Just need to get use to windows 8.
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Which mouse did you get?
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Currently using mine at the moment while writing this post. I have small hands and so the keyboard does not feel very cramped at all to write on. Another thing I would like to mention is that this machine is very capable of running almost everything I've thrown at it, from editing software to video games. It probably wont run crysis 3 or anything, but handles Skyrim fine at 30fps on low settings. My girlfriend owns the Microsoft surface pro and side by side the Sony duo 11 is slightly thicker and of course a bit larger (11.6 vs 10.6) but not to where it's a monster compared to the surface. The duo does have a slightly thicker bezel which makes the length a bit longer but this gives my hands ease of use without the fear of accidently touching the screen while handling it in different positions. Another huge plus is that the windows key is an ACUTAL button unlike other tablet/pc devices so your hands don't accidently graze the bezel and get sent to the start screen (a problem my girlfriends surface has). In terms of weight between the two devices is pretty small and not noticeable at all. Although the surface is about 1.8gs and the duo is 2.8gs the weight distribution is much better on the duo and causing it to feel almost lighter then the surface.
So if your trying to decide what to get, the question you first must ask yourself is what do you want more; portability, or functionality? The surface gives you the same specs but in a smaller package(plus the totally awesome touch/type covers) vs the Sony duo which offers a larger screen estate and more ports (2x usb 3.0, vga, hdmi out, SD/pro duo slot, Ethernet port) Performance they are very similar in processing power and battery life, however the Sony duo does offer a sheet battery option that will double the life of your device, at the cost of weight, and portability. For all you graphic artist out there who are wondering about the pens that are included in both devices, the surface pro uses Wacom tablet pen vs the Sony's N-Trig pen. There is much debate about which is better but overall they have their pros and cons. Wacom tablets have more pressure sensitivity, but the screen tracking on the surface is horrid (gets especially worse near the edges), while the N-Trigs have more accuracy but lacks pressure sensitivity. Neither has wintab drivers for pressure sensitivity on adobe software, and both promises further support but that has yet to be seen.
Ps. Did I mention the Sony has a gorgeous backlit keyboard
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You did not mention the Sony keyboard.
I've just bought Sony vaio duo 11 with Core i5 and 128G SSD and I have some comments.
First, although the keyboard is quite small, so sometimes i feel annoy but by the time i feel more comfortable.
Second, I have Galaxy Note 10.1 and i ensure that writing on Note 10.1 by Wacom stylus is more likely than Duo 11.
Furthermore, When surfing on the internet, Wifi suddenly disconnect...
Finally, with duo 11 screen, if I use a brown colour background, I can see the screen is waving like a low refresing rate on an old screen, although I set it to 60Hz. Does anyone try it? using a brown colour.
But i feel satisfied with it. I hope that in the future Sony will upgrade it
Just ordered a duo 11
I was browsing for a suitable sleeve, and found that Elecom make a Zeroshock that should be the perfect size - the model reference is ZSB-IBUB03 (then BK for black or WH for white). The only place I've been able to find one is ebay (coming from Japan), price in the £20 to £25 range, so I now have one on the way
got one of these today. Great machine but i need out how to enable the pen scrolling?
I got an i5 4gb ram 128ssd vaio duo last week. Absolutely love it. one question:
Which ram do I need to upgrade this beast!?
I originally wanted to buy the g pad，but I find the Xperia Tablet Z is much cheaper than before，now I am hesitant。。
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I originally wanted to buy the g pad，but I find the Xperia Tablet Z is much cheaper than before，now I am hesitant。。
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Between the two the biggest consideration for me would be the size. I lusted after the Z when it first came out, but I was hesitant due to the price. But really I did not want a tablet that large. If I did then the more likely choice for me would have been the Note 10.1 2014. When the G Pad was announced it was THE perfect form factor for me - the biggest screen possible (for my eyes) in a form factor which can still fit in a jacket or even trouser (cargo pants) pocket. The G Pad is a decent enough machine, although not without faults, but there is also nothing quite like it to met my needs. I've had mine for about a month. It does everything I need it to. BTW, as I also have Galaxy Note phablet something like the Nexus 7 would simply not be a big enough leap in screen size, but 10" is too much for my pockets.
There is a brand new and quite detailed/technical review of the G Pad here....
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-LG-G-Pad-8-3-Tablet.108906.0.html
I've only skimmed the article, but the bits I read seem quite accurate and honest.
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I originally wanted to buy the g pad，but I find the Xperia Tablet Z is much cheaper than before，now I am hesitant。。
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I have quite enjoyed the size of my G Pad. I had an original Galaxy Tab 10.1, and then tried out a Nexus 7 (2013) for a while. Size and handling, I like the G Pad the best, it is not too small to remotely control my desktop and not too big to hold for a few hours while reading a book. On technical issues the field skews some, as the Nexus kicks butt in screen clarity and brightness. I couldn't really tell a difference in processing speed between my Nexus 7 and G Pad. I have the GPE verision which is nice because it has 4.4, however it is missing some features like the IR blaster.
I'm not sure how the Xperia stacks up to the others, but I don't think I will ever own a 10in tablet again, I'll stick to 8in and a laptop.
I love the size of G pad , really i cant go back to 7 '' and 10 '' for my daily usage.
Very portable with very nice big screen , all the money !
vatis24 said:
I love the size of G pad , really i cant go back to 7 '' and 10 '' for my daily usage.
Very portable with very nice big screen , all the money !
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G Pad - the "Goldilocks" of tablets. Not too big; not too small; just right. :victory:
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I originally wanted to buy the g pad,but I find the Xperia Tablet Z is much cheaper than before,now I am hesitant。。
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AVOID the Xperia Tablet Z!!
I bought it one soon after it came out thinking I had finally found the perfect 10" tablet...
Yeah, it was extremely light (the lightest at the time), had a nice rubberized/soft touch back (HATE metal cases), an FHD display, 2GB RAM and it was pretty fast... BUT it has a F-ing STUPID plastic film screen-protector (the same kind people used to put on the screen before there was good scratch resistant glass) which is part of the design and makes the display hard to swipe onto (it's not as "slick" as glass), very scratch-prone, it is very reflective and the worst part is that if you remove it the glass has not an oleophobic treatment so it will get smudged very easily and is hard to clean. UNBELIEVABLE...
And NONE of the reviews of the so-called "tech-media" or the YouTube "tech" channels mentioned it!!
I took it back for a refund after a couple of days and resumed my quest for a good 10" tablet for me (a quest which is still ongoing as I haven't found one yet and am using the G Pad which, while very good, is not a 10" tablet which is the size I would really want).
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AVOID the Xperia Tablet Z!!
I bought it one soon after it came out thinking I had finally found the perfect 10" tablet...
Yeah, it was extremely light (the lightest at the time), had a nice rubberized/soft touch back (HATE metal cases), an FHD display, 2GB RAM and it was pretty fast... BUT it has a F-ing STUPID plastic film screen-protector (the same kind people used to put on the screen before there was good scratch resistant glass) which is part of the design and makes the display hard to swipe onto (it's not as "slick" as glass), very scratch-prone, it is very reflective and the worst part is that if you remove it the glass has not an oleophobic treatment so it will get smudged very easily and is hard to clean. UNBELIEVABLE...
And NONE of the reviews of the so-called "tech-media" or the YouTube "tech" channels mentioned it!!
I took it back for a refund after a couple of days and resumed my quest for a good 10" tablet for me (a quest which is still ongoing as I haven't found one yet and am using the G Pad which, while very good, is not a 10" tablet which is the size I would really want).
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I can imagine these..Mabye you can wash it:laugh:
tdodd said:
Between the two the biggest consideration for me would be the size. I lusted after the Z when it first came out, but I was hesitant due to the price. But really I did not want a tablet that large. If I did then the more likely choice for me would have been the Note 10.1 2014. When the G Pad was announced it was THE perfect form factor for me - the biggest screen possible (for my eyes) in a form factor which can still fit in a jacket or even trouser (cargo pants) pocket. The G Pad is a decent enough machine, although not without faults, but there is also nothing quite like it to met my needs. I've had mine for about a month. It does everything I need it to. BTW, as I also have Galaxy Note phablet something like the Nexus 7 would simply not be a big enough leap in screen size, but 10" is too much for my pockets.
There is a brand new and quite detailed/technical review of the G Pad here....
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-LG-G-Pad-8-3-Tablet.108906.0.html
I've only skimmed the article, but the bits I read seem quite accurate and honest.
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Yes,the size of g pad is perfect,maybe most of you gays choose the g pad because of the size
eliccs said:
Yes,the size of g pad is perfect,maybe most of you gays choose the g pad because of the size
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Ooooo I say Ducky !!!!!
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For me, the perfect size for a tablet is probably 8.9", but with the same narrow bezel as the G Pad 8.3. My Nook HD+ looks like a monster next to the G Pad, but it's mostly due to the enormous bezel rather than the screen. Until such a device appears, though, the G Pad is a great option!
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For me, the perfect size for a tablet is probably 8.9", but with the same narrow bezel as the G Pad 8.3. My Nook HD+ looks like a monster next to the G Pad, but it's mostly due to the enormous bezel rather than the screen. Until such a device appears, though, the G Pad is a great option!
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I was considering the Kindle HDX 8.9
Felt it in store it is light brilliant screen and superb battery life.
If there was a way to hack it to run stock android I would sell my GPad for it. It is a bit larger but still less than a pound and much brighter higher res screen with close to double the battery life.
Canadoc said:
I was considering the Kindle HDX 8.9
Felt it in store it is light brilliant screen and superb battery life.
If there was a way to hack it to run stock android I would sell my GPad for it. It is a bit larger but still less than a pound and much brighter higher res screen with close to double the battery life.
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Yup, I totally agree, though only if there was an AOSP-based ROM that was absolutely rock solid. One of the reasons I went with the GPE over the LGE with something like CM11 is that in the past I've found custom ROMs to be less stable than I want out of a daily driver even well into their maturity cycle. I know that may not reflect others' experiences, but it is the experience I've had across a number of devices (Nook Color, HP Touchpad, Nook HD+).