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808B vs. 808B Clone - are both FW compatibel ?

I have read that custom FW for MK808B would not run on a MK808B clone.
a) how do you tell you only have a clone ?
b) does that mean the custom Roms for MK808B won´t run on it ?

At this point I think each require separate roms but roms are usually released for both together.
I even think they are starting to make a single rom for both. Development is picking up on it since the MK808 and MK808B and its fake are essentially the same aside from the radio chips.
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Hi,
Just got my MK808B yesterday. Last week, I purchased the SmartStick but was annoyed that it did not come with Bluetooth. I have a ton of bluetooth keyboards, didn't want to spend any more money on keyboards.
Anyway, the MK808B is by far the better of the two.
But of course, now I am also worrying that I might have a clone.
And I'm seeing these firmware upgrades to bring my MK808B from 4,1,1 to 4,2.2 (something from Geekbuying) MK808B Android 4.2.2 Beta.
And of course I'm looking to root, and I did find here on XDA a Tutorial and the drivers to be able to root your devices.
One thing I just found which is fantastic, is the inclusion of a piece of software called 'eHomeMediaCenter' which is a system app. And from the Play Store, I found the following app, MK802 III Remote (there is a MK802 II but it doesn't work). This MK802 III along with the eHomeMediaCenter (I renamed the broadcast name) allows you to remote control your MK808B with an Android Phone or Tablet, keyboard and everything. Total control, No need to purchase any of this special keyboards. It works perfectly.
And I have loaded all my apps that I have on my phone and my tablets with no issue so far.
Thanks!
Rob
PS If you can recommend the newest safe firmware and link, that would be appreciated. Just trying not to brick my $50 system.

rlanza1054 said:
Hi,
Just got my MK808B yesterday. Last week, I purchased the SmartStick but was annoyed that it did not come with Bluetooth. I have a ton of bluetooth keyboards, didn't want to spend any more money on keyboards.
Anyway, the MK808B is by far the better of the two.
But of course, now I am also worrying that I might have a clone.
And I'm seeing these firmware upgrades to bring my MK808B from 4,1,1 to 4,2.2 (something from Geekbuying) MK808B Android 4.2.2 Beta.
And of course I'm looking to root, and I did find here on XDA a Tutorial and the drivers to be able to root your devices.
One thing I just found which is fantastic, is the inclusion of a piece of software called 'eHomeMediaCenter' which is a system app. And from the Play Store, I found the following app, MK802 III Remote (there is a MK802 II but it doesn't work). This MK802 III along with the eHomeMediaCenter (I renamed the broadcast name) allows you to remote control your MK808B with an Android Phone or Tablet, keyboard and everything. Total control, No need to purchase any of this special keyboards. It works perfectly.
And I have loaded all my apps that I have on my phone and my tablets with no issue so far.
Thanks!
Rob
PS If you can recommend the newest safe firmware and link, that would be appreciated. Just trying not to brick my $50 system.
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My favorite firmware is the Minix Hybrid. It is prerooted. I don't think its 4.2.2 yet but he said he's working on it. Yea the eHomeMediaCenter is cool.
Ill check out that MK802 III app. Hows it work? Put the app on the phone or both? Does it work like an airmouse? That would be cool.
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player911 said:
My favorite firmware is the Minix Hybrid. It is prerooted. I don't think its 4.2.2 yet but he said he's working on it. Yea the eHomeMediaCenter is cool.
Ill check out that MK802 III app. Hows it work? Put the app on the phone or both? Does it work like an airmouse? That would be cool.
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The software is free, so just try it. No not like an airmouse, just a touchpad.
I at first purchased a Smartstick, but didn't like that it did not have Bluetooth.
But it contains the built-in TV Remote which works with what I thought was good, Google's Remote. You put Google Remote on your phone or tablet and then the TV Remote which came with the Smartstick. I liked that as well.
So I'm trying to find a way to install this TV Remote.apk package which I pulled off the Smartstick but was a system app and tried to install it on the MK808B. It didn't work, I wonder if it can even be done?
Rob
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Hi all,
Just wanted to post exactly what I purchased and still trying to determine if I have a Clone or the real thing?
I got this from Amazon:
Cozyswan New Arrival Mk808 with Bluetooth 8g Version Dual Core Mk808 Android 4.1 Ram: 1g Ddr3 Flash 8g Nand Flash Tv BOX Rockchip Rk3066 Cortex-a9 Smart Tv Stick Mini PC
Product Features
mk808 with Bluetooth
cs102 iii 8g verison MK808 CPU: Dual ARM? CortexTM-A9
Processor: RK3066 Up 1.6GHz
Memory and storage: DDR3:1GB Nand Flash:4GB
Networking: wifi:802.11 b, g, n
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Product Description
Product Features
cs102 iii 8g verison MK808 solved the wifi ,charger and high temperature problems perfectly.
Dual Wifi antenna,well signal enhancement.
Cooling SMT technology ,lower temperature when working
Better charger adaptor
Dual ARM? CortexTM-A9
Product Description
DDR3/8G ROM WIFI cs102 iii 8g verison MK808 android tv box
Compared with UG802,cs102 iii 8g verison MK808 solved the wifi ,charger and high temperature problems perfectly. Dual Wifi antenna,well signal enhancement.
Cooling SMT technology ,lower temperature when working
Better charger adaptor
cs102 iii 8g verison MK808 CPU: Dual ARM? CortexTM-A9
Processor: RK3066 Up 1.6GHz
Memory and storage: DDR3:1GB Nand Flash:4GB
Size & Weight: 4.0inches (L) 1.5inches (w)
Audio Type: Integrated
Graphics adapter: Integrated
GPU model: quad core Mali-400MP
Video outputs: HDMI
USB: USB2.0 and 5pin Mini usb
Networking: wifi:802.11 b, g, n
Memory card reader: microSD OS: android4.1 jelly bean
cs102 iii 8g verison MK808 Can connect to normal keyboard&mouse,or usb dongle,as well as air mouse.

I'm aware that this topic is rather outdated, but this update may stil be useful to someone
As far as I know, the only way to determine is your device original or clone is to take away plastic cover and look inside.
Detailed info with pics can be found at freaktab.com

[Q] Best Android Stick out there

I would like to buy the best Android TV Stick that is on the market..
I've searched the web and all the specs just looks the same.
Could you please mention the name of the best Android TV stick out there?

SaharLevi said:
I would like to buy the best Android TV Stick that is on the market..
I've searched the web and all the specs just looks the same.
Could you please mention the name of the best Android TV stick out there?
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Four threads down: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089407

scmobileman said:
Four threads down: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089407
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Thanks for replying.
I've seen the post everyone speaks about their own devices so I can't properly decide
And by any chance you've got an comparison chart for AnTuTu test or other benchmark apps?

SaharLevi said:
Thanks for replying.
I've seen the post everyone speaks about their own devices so I can't properly decide
And by any chance you've got an comparison chart for AnTuTu test or other benchmark apps?
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Looks like that thread is about as good as you will get at this point. Like you I'm trying to find out as well and so far not having a lot of luck. I'm actually waiting for FedEx to deliver my mk808B. I will be glad to give you a report on that after spending some time with it this afternoon.

scmobileman said:
Looks like that thread is about as good as you will get at this point. Like you I'm trying to find out as well and so far not having a lot of luck. I'm actually waiting for FedEx to deliver my mk808B. I will be glad to give you a report on that after spending some time with it this afternoon.
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Thanks for replying.
I've searched the web and I got to this one guy's channel on YouTube, he's reviewing Android PC and stuff
well just listen to this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0hyY6_9SPTo#t=287s
He's saying that MX1 is faster than the MK808 (and I read that MX2 is even better than MX1 because of the plastic shell)

MK808B Benchmarks
I've been benchmarking my MK808B using 4.1.1 ROMS. I just started testing 4.2.2 ROMS and things don't look as good. Stick with 4.1.1 until issues with 4.2.2 are resolved.
Benchmarks for MK808B
tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
Please post any benchmark results of other TV Sticks so we have an idea a baseline for comparison. For $50 I think the MK808B makes the best device.

cesar33 said:
I've been benchmarking my MK808B using 4.1.1 ROMS. I just started testing 4.2.2 ROMS and things don't look as good. Stick with 4.1.1 until issues with 4.2.2 are resolved.
Benchmarks for MK808B
tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
Please post any benchmark results of other TV Sticks so we have an idea a baseline for comparison. For $50 I think the MK808B makes the best device.
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Great! thanks for the info.:good:

MK908
Most of the dongles only have 1gb ram on it but the MK908 has 2gb ram so is much faster.
Android Mini PC (MK908)
Quad-Core A9 Processor
Running Android OS 4.2.2
Product Features
Google Android OS 4.2
Dual Heatsink
Dual Wifi Antenna
Cortex A9 Rk3188 Quad Core CPU
Quad Core Mali 400 GPU
2GB DDR3 RAM
8GB NAND FLASH ROM
Bluetooth v4.0
Wifi support 802.11 b/g/n
Technical Details
Brand Name: Mini PC
Model: MK809
Specifications
Model No: MK908
Operation System Google Android 4.2
CPU 28nm RK3188 Quad Core, ARM Cortex-A9, 1.6ghz, Max 1.8Ghz
RAM DDR3 2GB
Internal Memory Nand Flash 8GB
Memory External Support External Storage via TF card, Support up to 32GB
Networking Support 802.11 b/g/n
Graphics Type Integrated Graphics Mali400, Supports 1080P video (1920*1080)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
Input/Output Connectors
Support WIFI 802.1b/g/n.
Ports
1 X USB 2.0 Host for external drive/component
1 X OTG Mini USB port for wireless keyboard mouse device
1 X Mini USB for power
PS. There are other 2gb out there so have a look around before you buy.

xwestor signalman
i think you should go for k-r42 tv box.
its not a stick but the price is 83$
so its similar to sticks but you get beter device with spdif 2 full usb audio jack etc.

Tronsmart MK908 Google Android 4.1 Mini PC TV Box RK3188 Quad Core 2G/8G BT Black

i just ordered this from amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-MK9...&qid=1366656446&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=mk908
TronSmart™- Android TV Box
This is quad core TV box armed with with Quad Core Rockchip RK3188 and Quad Core Mali 400 GPU.
Specification
- OS: Google Android 4.1 (Flash 11.X?HTML5)
- CPU: Rk3188 Quad Core 1.6ghz, max 1.8Ghz(maximum data from manufacturer for CPU - only) (Cortex-A9)
- GPU: Quad Core Mali 400
- RAM: DDR3 2GB; ROM: On board NAND Flash 8G (Android system itself and other user data will take some space)
- Expand Micro SD: Micro SD Card/ T-Flash(Maximum support 32GB)
- Video Format: WMV/ASF/MP4/3GP/3G2M4V/AVI/MJPEG/RV10/DivX/VC-1/MPEG-2/MPEG-4/H.263/H.264/1280*720P HD 30 fps, 1080P/720*480 D1 30fps
- Audio Format: Support: MP3/WMA/APE/FLAC/AAC/OGG/AC3/WAV
- Picture Format: Support: Max.8000x8000 JPEG BMP GIF PNG
- WIFI: support 802.11 b/g/n
- Bluetooth: Bluetooth v4.0
- Output: MINI HDMI Port
- Dimension: 88mm * 31.5mm * 15.8mm
- DC: 5V 2A
- Weight: <50g - Storage environment: -20°C--60°C, 10%--90% Humidity
Ports
- 1*Mini USB,Support OTG/HOST ( USB port RJ45)
- 1*standard USB
- 1*Mini USB For charging
- 1*TF card slot
- 1*Blue LED(When connect to power
1*Physical botton(For upgrading software)
Package Includes
- 1*Tronsmart MK908
- 1*charger
- 1*hdmi cable
- 1*micro usb cable
- 1*otg cable
- 1*user manual

Let us know how it is when it comes! Really excited to see the RK3188 make its way to the TV sticks.

Ok will do sir
It's already rooted and preloaded with xbmc.
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Difference between MK908 and EU MK908
Hi,
Could anyway explain to me what the difference is between these products besides the price?
geekbuying.com/item/Tronsmart-MK908-Google-Android-4-1-Mini-PC-TV-Box-RK3188-Quad-Core-2G-8G-BT-Black-315155.html
geekbuying.com/item/EU-plug-Tronsmart-MK908-Google-Android-4-1-Mini-PC-TV-Box-RK3188-Quad-Core-2G-8G-BT-Black-315163.html
Couldn't see any noticeable differences, I'm assuming that they're the same product (MK908). Just curious where the 10 euro difference comes from..
Thanks!!

They are the same I bought it off USA amazon that's paying 10 dollars more. Geek buying is cheaper
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Review is available!
http://liliputing.com/2013/04/tronsmart-mk908-quad-core-android-tv-stick-performance-video.html
It seems like HW decoding isn't available yet for XBMC.

Has it arrived?
Is there much support for this device like ROM's or mods?

digweed4me said:
They are the same I bought it off USA amazon that's paying 10 dollars more. Geek buying is cheaper
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I actually was wondering about the "EU plug" version of the device. Both those items are sold on geekbuying and the "EU plug" version is about ten euro cheaper than the MK908 you started this thread about.

any updates on this yet? Are there any uk suppliers?

Just got this from geekbuying--going to pick it up next week. Psyched. This is my first android pc stick, finally took the plunge after seeing some preliminary videos and knowing that finless will come out for it eventually.
I'll let you all know how it goes!

mk 908 low score?
I get a score of 14000 in antutu which is low for a rk3188 at 1.6ghz i saw in no-frills cpu control in the view stats part shows that its only running at 1008mhz. Im guess its running some where in between 1.6ghz and 1008mhz because when i force a force clock of 1008mhz it only scores 11000 in antutu. I think this score of 14000 in antutu is low since tablets which run the rk3188 at 1.6hz get 18000 and at 1.8ghz get 20000. Is there any custom roms out there with cpu value controls? Will roms of other rk3188 devices work?

clone12100 said:
I get a score of 14000 in antutu which is low for a rk3188 at 1.6ghz i saw in no-frills cpu control in the view stats part shows that its only running at 1008mhz. Im guess its running some where in between 1.6ghz and 1008mhz because when i force a force clock of 1008mhz it only scores 11000 in antutu. I think this score of 14000 in antutu is low since tablets which run the rk3188 at 1.6hz get 18000 and at 1.8ghz get 20000. Is there any custom roms out there with cpu value controls? Will roms of other rk3188 devices work?
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Don't concern yourself with antutu scores just yet. Device just came out so firmware will have to get tweaked. Do you see any issues with the device rather than lower than usual antutu score?
If everything is working well I would suggest to wait a few months until this stick gets proper ROM support.

Sit_RP said:
Don't concern yourself with antutu scores just yet. Device just came out so firmware will have to get tweaked. Do you see any issues with the device rather than lower than usual antutu score?
If everything is working well I would suggest to wait a few months until this stick gets proper ROM support.
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The wifi signal seems pretty weak even though im right beside my router and it still cuts out all the time, but I am waiting for a micro usb to rj45 adapter to hard wire it anyways.

Is it possible to use Netflix
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Yes, netflix works.
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Can you get the play store on this?
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Settings erased
Hi
i got this device a couple of days ago. I noticed that when you reboot it or shut it down, the settings are reset to default. Is there a way to maintain android settings for this device even after reboot? Thanks

RADLOUNI said:
Hi
i got this device a couple of days ago. I noticed that when you reboot it or shut it down, the settings are reset to default. Is there a way to maintain android settings for this device even after reboot? Thanks
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I wanna know this too, it reset time and everything to default. The date reset back to 1971. I did check on carrier set time and it helped on date but not on time.
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Maybe try a factory reset? Might order one of these as well

Dont buy this thing... Its rather underwhelming.
It does not ship with xbmc and you cant use the current stable version because it crashes... you have to get a mirrored link for a special build from geekbuying via email which takes a week.
There are two OTG cables in the box... I can report that at least one of them is not suitable for flashing roms. I had to use an old moto cable.
its not 1080p yet.
even if they do release an update to make it push 1080, the processor doesn't seem to have the gonads to decode 720p content without at least some chop so I cant imagine 1080 ever looking good.
the stock netflix looks like crap even with solid wifi connection. the xda HD hack might fair better though I have not tried it yet
yes the play store works. yes it is rooted with SU out of the box.
Overall, I kinda think it sucks.

MK812

I found this stick called MK812 ( http://miniandroidpc.com/shop/mk812-dual-core-a9-mini-pc-with-camera-microphone-bluetooth) with AV port which can be used with my old TV.
Can someone tell a similar stick with Quad Core CPU, 2gb RAM AV, Bt & Cam?
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newbie looking to buy an Android 10 head unit

Hi folks,
avid Android user here (mobile phone Samsung Galaxy series) for over 10 years.
I am now looking to buy an Android 10 head unit for my car.
I don't want to do anything fancy – or RAM heavy ? – (just Radio, Navigation via igo or maps, reverse and front camera, maybe torque) but I'm yet unsure whether to buy
Option A: Quad-Core, 2 GB RAM, 32 GB storage
Option B: Octa-Core, 4 GB RAM, 64 GB storage
My only reference point is that I've been using a 3 GB RAM phone for the past 6 years and it has always worked like a charm.
I wouldn't want the device to be heavy on the car battery either.
What would you recommend I get?
Option B, of course, has more RAM, but I've read contradictory information on how much battery quad-core vs. octa-core draw, sometimes that quad-core draws less and sometimes that octa-core draws less.
Also, let me ask: Option A comes with in-built carplay. Do I really need that to connect my Android phone? Would it not suffice to use the Screen Mirroring option?
Help would be greatly appreciated.
RT

I have a unit with quad core and 2 GB RAM( rockchip px3) It's damn slow especially if I'm downloading apps. Download speeds are okay but the installation takes forever.
If I were you I'd take the 4gb ram ( rock chips px5) version. Better performance. There's the 6gb ram as well ( rockchip px6).
Get the best one you can afford.
Do some research on the carplay/android auto features. Some are in built some you can buy a usb dongle to add the feature.

Thanks for the reply and recommendation!
Option A is an 8277L with Cortex A7 operating at 1.2 GHz, the amplifier is an IC 7388, radio chip ST7708.
Option B is a PX5 with Cortex A53 up to 1.5 GHz, amplifier IC 7851, radio chip TDA 6686.
I was looking to buy the one with more RAM, but hesitated, because
1) Option A supports video output
2) Option A has integrated carplay
and that alone had me wonder whether – even with lower RAM, ROM, and set of cores – this unit was the better one in terms of being tried and tested.
Now if you say, I should definitely take option B, I can get a dongle on top for android auto. Yet I was wondering if it's necessary at all because the head unit supports screen mirroring?