Hi folks,
avid Android user here (mobile phone Samsung Galaxy series) for over 10 years.
I am now looking to buy an Android 10 head unit for my car.
I don't want to do anything fancy – or RAM heavy ? – (just Radio, Navigation via igo or maps, reverse and front camera, maybe torque) but I'm yet unsure whether to buy
Option A: Quad-Core, 2 GB RAM, 32 GB storage
Option B: Octa-Core, 4 GB RAM, 64 GB storage
My only reference point is that I've been using a 3 GB RAM phone for the past 6 years and it has always worked like a charm.
I wouldn't want the device to be heavy on the car battery either.
What would you recommend I get?
Option B, of course, has more RAM, but I've read contradictory information on how much battery quad-core vs. octa-core draw, sometimes that quad-core draws less and sometimes that octa-core draws less.
Also, let me ask: Option A comes with in-built carplay. Do I really need that to connect my Android phone? Would it not suffice to use the Screen Mirroring option?
Help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have a unit with quad core and 2 GB RAM( rockchip px3) It's damn slow especially if I'm downloading apps. Download speeds are okay but the installation takes forever.
If I were you I'd take the 4gb ram ( rock chips px5) version. Better performance. There's the 6gb ram as well ( rockchip px6).
Get the best one you can afford.
Do some research on the carplay/android auto features. Some are in built some you can buy a usb dongle to add the feature.
Thanks for the reply and recommendation!
Option A is an 8277L with Cortex A7 operating at 1.2 GHz, the amplifier is an IC 7388, radio chip ST7708.
Option B is a PX5 with Cortex A53 up to 1.5 GHz, amplifier IC 7851, radio chip TDA 6686.
I was looking to buy the one with more RAM, but hesitated, because
1) Option A supports video output
2) Option A has integrated carplay
and that alone had me wonder whether – even with lower RAM, ROM, and set of cores – this unit was the better one in terms of being tried and tested.
Now if you say, I should definitely take option B, I can get a dongle on top for android auto. Yet I was wondering if it's necessary at all because the head unit supports screen mirroring?
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I am looking to buy an android head unit. I've found a few with different specs and screen sizes. I am wondering if someone with some experience with these units can help.
I'm trying to choose between these 3 units.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-Quad-C...For-Toyota-Highlander-2011-2014-/181834823295
This one is 10 inches (good), runs android 4.4.4 (good), all the latest specs...but it says it only works on 2011-2014 toyota highlander models. I have a 2009. It doesnt make sense because all of the other ones are made for Highlanders from 2008-2013, which is the 2nd gen and this looks like it is an exact replacement for my head unit. Not sure I want to gamble on that, otherwise this would be my first option.
http://www.carjoying.com/quad-core-...ouch-screen-1024-600-resolution-double-d.html
This one is only 8 inches, but it gets good reviews from some users on the Toyota Highlander forum. IT has all of the latest specs, like the one above. And it is made for my model year.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pure-Androi...n-/181738329265?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
This one is 10 inches, but it has an older dual-core processor and is on android 4.4.2. It is also made for my model year.
There are so many options and they all look a little different. I dont know how to choose!!! I am mostly planning to use this for navigation, bluetooth audio/calling, and FM/AM radio. Of course, all of the android functionality is great, but those core functions are the most important for me. Anyone have any ideas?
I do not have a highlander, but have been doing days and days of research and cannot decide. I am on the market for a generic 7in double din unit. Hopefully some people who have lots of experience with these HUs can chime in to provide guidance/input.
I have been looking at joying, but they seem to only provide HUs with 1GB memory only. Is the 1GB memory enough? Most units these days have 2GB options.
Most units these days have 2GB options.
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Actually most of the units ARE 1GB units. Pretty much every single android head unit on the market uses the exact same small CPU/memory integrated sub-board that plugs into the main board on their unit. In fact the same motherboards are used between the dual and quad core, 8gb and 16gb flash models, only that small internal pluggable cpu board is different. It is also possible that these units will be able to be upgraded to faster CPU's with more ram in the future by swapping out the CPU boards.
All of the 2GB units right now appearing on the market, are usually a totally different design of having an entirely separate android pizza box(I am guessing they are repurposed TV boxes or something) which you have to figure out how to install somewhere and also a separate screen unit that you also have to install in the dash. The 1GB RAM head units are all a single integrated unit that installs in the regular double din location. I personally like the traditional single unit designs myself and chose not to use a 2GB unit because of that.
But really the choice comes down to price, specs (quad core, 16gb space, 1024x600 screen is what seems to be the best specs), and the features, button layout, if you want a DVD slot, or one without so you get a bigger screen, etc.. and then of course if you care about who you purchase it from and support etc..
nixfu said:
Actually most of the units ARE 1GB units. Pretty much every single android head unit on the market uses the exact same small CPU/memory integrated sub-board that plugs into the main board on their unit. In fact the same motherboards are used between the dual and quad core, 8gb and 16gb flash models, only that small internal pluggable cpu board is different. It is also possible that these units will be able to be upgraded to faster CPU's with more ram in the future by swapping out the CPU boards.
All of the 2GB units right now appearing on the market, are usually a totally different design of having an entirely separate android pizza box(I am guessing they are repurposed TV boxes or something) which you have to figure out how to install somewhere and also a separate screen unit that you also have to install in the dash. The 1GB RAM head units are all a single integrated unit that installs in the regular double din location. I personally like the traditional single unit designs myself and chose not to use a 2GB unit because of that.
But really the choice comes down to price, specs (quad core, 16gb space, 1024x600 screen is what seems to be the best specs), and the features, button layout, if you want a DVD slot, or one without so you get a bigger screen, etc.. and then of course if you care about who you purchase it from and support etc..
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Nixfu - thanks for the prompt response...this is very helpful information! What about the screens? Are they also similar across the board? I do not mind paying more money for a reliable/stable unit...I am more concerned about the risk of purchasing a HU plagued with software/hardware issues. One of the things I would like is having the ability to configure the HU to go into suspend when the power is switched off. I have seen several units that can be configured up to 2 hours suspend, but would like to be able to increase that up to potentially 24/48 hours or maybe more. You may have talked me into purchasing a CarJoying HU with your post/review of it Can that unit be configured to go into suspend longer than 2 hours when car ignition is switched off? Thanks again!
skange01 said:
Can that unit be configured to go into suspend longer than 2 hours when car ignition is switched off? Thanks again!
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No. I think they all have a min of 30secs and max of 2hours in the settings menu. Maybe that is something that Malaysk could add in his custom firmware.
Hello,
does anyone have experience with the different from octa cores and Quad Cores. From Joying I can get a radio with quad core, 2 GB Ram and Intel Processor for 15% discount from normal price. On other platforms like Amazon or ebay I see some units with octa core. Is it worth to buy an octa core? Thanks!
Example 8-core: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/HD-1...pel-Vectra-C-D-Vivaro-Meriva/32783218407.html
Example 4-core: https://www.carjoying.com/head-unit...touchscreen-navigation-multimedia-system.html
8 core probably more heat to dissipate.
it's a car headunit you're looking after, not a bitcoin mining box....look for other criteria, like: screen size, OS maturity and configuration options, best UI out of the box, amp chip quality, etc....
zerozoneice said:
8 core probably more heat to dissipate.
it's a car headunit you're looking after, not a bitcoin mining box....look for other criteria, like: screen size, OS maturity and configuration options, best UI out of the box, amp chip quality, etc....
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Do you know a good one? FOr me it's important, that I have a fast radio. I used at the moment with my old radio a custom rom.
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Do you know a good one? FOr me it's important, that I have a fast radio. I used at the moment with my old radio a custom rom.
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Please define "fast".
Fast booting, fast operation, fast app switching, fast benchmarks...?
From the 2 you posted above, the Ownice C500 is better because it has a better AMP chip than Joying, it has physical buttons, a cd/dvd player and you can use a 3/4G data SIM without a stupid special working USB adapter that is hard to find. Note that i did not mention the 4 extra cores, because....they're not worth mentioning
They both boot fast, much faster than old models. But to me personally the FM radio app interface looks like a joke, even compared to Joying...
2nd that, I think the sound quality on my octa c500 is pretty good.
iam looking at android headunits and not alot of them are offered for my car wich is a honda accord 2008 Ex-l (no navi)
ive eyed this one wich is a px5 8 core 4gb ram 32gb rom
OTOJETA Android 8.0 car DVD octa Core 4GB RAM 32GB rom multimedia player for honda ACCORD 8 2008-2011 stereo head units gps map i cannot post link its on aliexpress
is this unit good?
should i purchase this unit?ive seen allwin t8 units.. i was readding around but i dont quite get the difference except the deep sleep but in some threads they says it work on other they say is not activated in fw...
yes i could buy a trim for the middle and remove my old radio and install a double dim universall radio but i dont want to lose xm radio and the wiring and the old screen on top would become useless, i find this fitting more convenient and looks uptodate(like bmw and benz they have it up there.
i was looking at this seicane too but it looks like the same type of unit but older build with old specs..
10.1 inch 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 Honda accord 8 Android 7.1 Radio GPS Navigation( i cannot post link )
thank you in advance (
Any luck finding one? Same car here.
Don't get hung up on a px5 board. My head unit came with a px3 board, 16GB flash and 2GB RAM, so I also bought a px5 board with 32GB flash and 4GB RAM because I wanted to make sure I had a responsive OS but the difference between px3 and px5 is hardly noticeable (both are fast enough to offer negligible lag in actual use) and I ended up sticking with the px3 board simply because I liked the launcher and apps it came with better, so I do have a px5 board for sale
Keep in mind that you typically will not tinker with a car head unit as much as you tinker with a phone. After the novelty wears off, you are going to set the unit to play what you want and get to the business of driving the car, as you should, so if it takes an additional fraction of a second to load an app, you won't even notice it.
Its 50$ difference... for 2gb extra and a px5... u say i should skip px5? But software.. i heard u can put the custom rom on it.. forgot the name but you could flash same on both
Goldy, the one you linked will not work unless you had factory navigation
(i asked them a lot of questions since i have the same car)
did you have factory navigation?
I'm also looking to buy same product. However it's 2 DIN base concerns me if it'll fit or not. Were you able to install it ?
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Don't get hung up on a px5 board. My head unit came with a px3 board, 16GB flash and 2GB RAM, so I also bought a px5 board with 32GB flash and 4GB RAM because I wanted to make sure I had a responsive OS but the difference between px3 and px5 is hardly noticeable
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1 remark here: You had a 2GB RAM PX3 which is exceptional.
Almost all PX3 models have only 1 GB RAM. This 1 GB RAM versus 2 GB RAM is really the big qualifier when it comes to performance, and indeed more than the CPU.
Going from 2 GB to 4 GB is hardly noticable.
So when going from a 1GB PX3 to a 2GB PX5 you will definitely notice a difference!
Next to that: Some apps, especially navigation apps, can be rather heavy on your CPU/GPU. There you will notice the difference as well, if only in (re)calculating your route. Some allow even for more/less details (like games do). More power means more details, if that is what you want.
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1 remark here: You had a 2GB RAM PX3 which is exceptional.
Almost all PX3 models have only 1 GB RAM. This 1 GB RAM versus 2 GB RAM is really the big qualifier when it comes to performance, and indeed more than the CPU.
Going from 2 GB to 4 GB is hardly noticable.
So when going from a 1GB PX3 to a 2GB PX5 you will definitely notice a difference!
Next to that: Some apps, especially navigation apps, can be rather heavy on your CPU/GPU. There you will notice the difference as well, if only in (re)calculating your route. Some allow even for more/less details (like games do). More power means more details, if that is what you want.
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I'm also looking to buy same product. However it's 2 DIN base concerns me if it'll fit or not. Were you able to install it ?
surfer63 said:
1 remark here: You had a 2GB RAM PX3 which is exceptional.
Almost all PX3 models have only 1 GB RAM. This 1 GB RAM versus 2 GB RAM is really the big qualifier when it comes to performance, and indeed more than the CPU.
Going from 2 GB to 4 GB is hardly noticable.
So when going from a 1GB PX3 to a 2GB PX5 you will definitely notice a difference!
Next to that: Some apps, especially navigation apps, can be rather heavy on your CPU/GPU. There you will notice the difference as well, if only in (re)calculating your route. Some allow even for more/less details (like games do). More power means more details, if that is what you want.
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I agree, the 2GB of RAM is what makes the big difference with most off-the-shelf px3 boards. In my case, navigation is quite good with the built-in maps but internet (through my 4G phone or directly through the house WiFi router) is terrible. The px5 board was considerably faster at downloading apps and maps. That was the only difference I noticed but it is significant. Since this is not something I do on a regular basis, I kept the px3 board simply because it came with a more recent Android version (7.1.2 instead of 6.0) and a better launcher.
Hi, last year i have bought HU with following specification:
SYSTEM (Android 6.0.1) 1GB/16GB
Allwinner QUAD-CORE T3 p3,
Mali-400MP2 .
Unfortunatelly it turns out horribly slow - I have rooted it and tried to speed it up, but without success.
Now I'm considering to buy another one (cheap), I need HU to normal use (google maps + music app + radar warning application) .
Here are my selections:
Android 8.1 1GB/16GB
quad-core T3 K2001M
GPU: Mali-600MP4
Android 8.1 1GB/16GB
quad-core MT8227L "1.3-1.5"
GPU: Mali-600MP4
Most units which I'm interested have these two processors some have also 2GB RAM. Which is better selection? Maybe i should choose someting with 8-core or 2GB ram?
Regards.
The processor is not the only thing that affects the speed, the amount of RAM matters too. Everything you listed has a gig of RAM, that is just too low for today's Android with all the services running in the background. Look for something with at least 2 GB, 4 would be better. The processors you're looking at are no powerhouses either. First they're all 32 bit and very obsolete. Also Allwinner is barely a decent processor for the money. Something from Rockchip or Intel would cost a bit more but you'd get more enjoyment out of it. If you have to keep it cheap maybe a PX30 with at least 2 GB RAM would be a good choice.
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If you have to keep it cheap maybe a PX30 with at least 2 GB RAM would be a good choice.
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The man is completely right. Nothing with 1GB will perform.
2GB is enough. 4 GB is better.
I agree that 1GB is not enough for todays Android, but this is still car device, not phone. I don't really want to spend lot of money . How about this ?
OS: Android 8.1 Go 1GB/16GB
CPU: Intel 8-core 1.872GHz Intel IA processor
GPU: with Mali-T820 8-core GPU
OS: Android 8.1 2GB/32GB (i think they will be able to install GO version too.)
CPU: High quality MT8227L Quad-core 1.3-1.5 GHz Cortex-A7 processor
GPU: with Mali-600MP4 Quad-core GPU
both fit to my limit 150 $ .
spewaq said:
I agree that 1GB is not enough for todays Android, but this is still car device, not phone. I don't really want to spend lot of money . How about this ?
OS: Android 8.1 Go 1GB/16GB
CPU: Intel 8-core 1.872GHz Intel IA processor
GPU: with Mali-T820 8-core GPU
OS: Android 8.1 2GB/32GB (i think they will be able to install GO version too.)
CPU: High quality MT8227L Quad-core 1.3-1.5 GHz Cortex-A7 processor
GPU: with Mali-600MP4 Quad-core GPU
both fit to my limit 150 $ .
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a bit stubborn? The first is 1GB. If 2 persons advise to go for at least 2GB: what more advise do you need? If you had searched this forum in advance, you would have seen that everybody advises against 1 GB.
choose and suffer, or choose and enjoy.
That's a really low budget. A $150 will buy you a nice Pioneer or Kenwood traditional stereo or if you want more features get a cheapie Dual or other low end brand. At any rate you will enjoy your choice better then. Those Chinese Android radios have always been a bit of a kludge. It's only in the last couple years that they've been getting almost decent and that's from having a proper amount of RAM and better processors. The one thing that hasn't improved is build quality, they work ok but there's no telling for how long. OTH they're a lot of fun if you can afford it.
The second option you listed is definitely low end but might work good enough. Like Surfer63 said do your research! Don't expect someone else to tell you what to buy. For that HU you can start here. On that first page there's a link to 4PDA too.
Believe me 150$ for car radio is quite a lot in my country To be honest initially I thought 100$ will be enough for my modest needs... I know 4pda I have studied most topics regarding Allwinner and partially this mentioned above . I have some experience with such devices (with 1) I could try to flash it but I have no time for that. In the mean time I have found that there are HU which are fitted to car steering panel better than universal one so decided to buy another. I did not expect that someone tell me what should I buy, however all yours remarks are very valuable for me. Ok I'll read a bit more and buy something, and maybe give some feedback.
Looking to get an android head unit. Visited a couple of local shops and ran CPU-Z on the android units. They're both same price (quite cheap) but I'm not sure about underlying hardware quality and future update possibilities/mods?
First: 8227L (ac8227l), Android 8.1 Go, Cortex A7-1.12 Ghz (quad), 1 GB Ram, 12 GB Rom, 5 band Equalizer
Second: AllWinner A23 sun8iw11p1, Android 9, Cortex A7-1.6 Ghz (quad), 1GB Ram, 12 GB Rom, full-band Equalizer
Apparently second one is better, however, I checked online and allwinner a23 is quite old hardware (from 4-5 years ago), but it is faster. Also, its running Android 9 but not the "Go" version, so it might be more taxing on the memory. I like everything about second, except that the Home screen has icons with white rectangle background so there is a lot of white on the screen and I fear it will be too bright to use at night.
First one has slower cpu and android 8.1 go, however, a lot of the posts I see on this forum are related to 8227L.
Which one should I go for? Is one better than the other in audio quality?