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[Q] Does reinstalling stock firmware trip knox on Note 3?

I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?

What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:

Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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no it wont

markslo112 said:
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
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Tnx for the tip. Already tried that 2 times. No luck

Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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it won't trip Knox, i tried it several times as long as they are official roms

Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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long as they are official samsung roms you be ok....

I reinstalled my firmware and I can confirm that it indeed won't trip Knox.
As it might be useful I also want to share that updating using my Mac (with VMWare for Windows) gave me a lot of troubles. After using a native Windows laptop the update went fine.
Too bad it didn't solve my problem. Going back to the store to claim my warranty.

jaythenut said:
no it wont
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So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?

Medical HRH said:
So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
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You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...

ultramag69 said:
You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
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I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?

Medical HRH said:
I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
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You have to be rooted to flash the custom roms provided here and that will mostly be thru recovery. It will surely trip knox. To flash stock roms from sammobile you don't need root. That can be done thru odin.
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I would suggest however, if you are network locked to unlock 1st... If you need to flash a separate modem afterwards this can trip Knox as you aren't really using a "Stock rom"...
Also make sure re-activation lock is OFF.... If you go to Kitkat and you don't have a KK rom yet you are stuck with a softbricked phone until you do get the KK rom... You can't go back to JB after flashing KK rom due to a new bootloader...

[Q] Galaxy s4 official kitkat 4.4.2 knox-friendly root method

Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now

wootyv said:
Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
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No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.

Mandark52 said:
No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
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Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then

wootyv said:
Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
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Not any spywarez but many of them reported that they lost their IMEI number.If you are on kitkat ,wait for stability updates n then root. Hit thnx if helpd.

Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.

!SINGH! said:
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
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Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?

wootyv said:
Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.

!SINGH! said:
Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much

wootyv said:
It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
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Actually KNOX is very important for warranty issues. If you dont have warranty then I wouldnt worry about it. If you DO have warranty then do not mess with KNOX-tripping root methods.

[share] about knox , root and odin firmware [please read before posting]

Hey friends:
im a normal member and everything above is only sharing
So you may get upset because of this thread
but i'll make things clear, everytime i open Q&A forum i see repeated questions everywhere
so here ill put some repeated answers about those stuff above
1. knox: well when you buy a new galaxy s5 the knox state will be 0*0 , but when you root your phone, flash custom recovery,custom kernel or custom rom this will trip knox and the knox state will be 0*1 and your warrenty will be void.
P.S: flashing firmware via odin will not trip knox
- so if you want to root without tripping knox you can go to this website : http://www.towelroot.com install apk by pressing the sign.
you will be able to root your phone quick from the phone itself but only if your phone on firmware from 3rd june or less
or your phone will not be rooted, but you can also root it by chainfire method from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696537
you can also use mobile odin to flash firmwares but be carefull to be sure about your phone model.
you can install the app from playstore or from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
P.S: firmwares can be downloaded from here : http://www.sammobile.com
i hope you Moderators understand me and dont get angry or close this thread because im only sharing and thought it will help my friends and the new forum members.
and at last im a member and i have the right to post what it usefull to xda community
hope that i helped.

Is is possible to use any Odin (I have 3 or 4 on my downloads) to flash stock over unlocked O2?

swipermusic said:
Is is possible to use any Odin (I have 3 or 4 on my downloads) to flash stock over unlocked O2?
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to flash firmware you can use computer odin v3.09 and then extract the md5 file from the firmware zip and put it in AP in odin (and maybe different version of odin says PDA)

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What about "System Status", in recovery I have a "System Status: Custom", knox 0x0 though, I'm rooted and use Xposed, what does this mean? how can I reverse it to "OFFICIAL", is this important when it comes to warranty?
THANKS! :highfive: :good: :fingers-crossed:

aguarello said:
What about "System Status", in recovery I have a "System Status: Custom", knox 0x0 though, I'm rooted and use Xposed, what does this mean? how can I reverse it to "OFFICIAL", is this important when it comes to warranty?
THANKS! :highfive: :good: :fingers-crossed:
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well i think its not so important.
and look in settings>>about>>states
is it official or custom?

Galaxy_Guy said:
well i think its not so important.
and look in settings>>about>>states
is it official or custom?
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Custom

aguarello said:
Custom
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means your system has been modified and no OTA's will be available

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wajiman said:
means your system has been modified and no OTA's will be available
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I don't care about OTA's, but how does this impacts warranty? Can be reversed to "Official?
Thanks man I really appreciate your help.

aguarello said:
What about "System Status", in recovery I have a "System Status: Custom", knox 0x0 though, I'm rooted and use Xposed, what does this mean? how can I reverse it to "OFFICIAL", is this important when it comes to warranty?
THANKS! :highfive: :good: :fingers-crossed:
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Use Triangle Away by chainfire, the system status will be reverted to Official.

This Thread - Fully redundant

pda4g said:
This Thread - Fully redundant
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but its usefull for some new S5 users, its not necessary to be usefull for you.

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Luckzao said:
Use Triangle Away by chainfire, the system status will be reverted to Official.
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Will this be permanent or the status will be just "faked"?
thanks! :victory:

aguarello said:
Will this be permanent or the status will be just "faked"?
thanks! :victory:
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AFAIK it will be fake, the only way to officially convert it to original is, uninstall root reboot and then reinstall root and SuperSU to user directory, not to system. This method worked for Roms prior to 3rd June.

wajiman said:
AFAIK it will be fake, the only way to officially convert it to original is, uninstall root reboot and then reinstall root and SuperSU to user directory, not to system. This method worked for Roms prior to 3rd June.
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Ughhhh should have know that before updating and installing SuperSU to system... So no way to revert it if ROM is posterior to 3rd June? Even flashing official ROM again without root? :crying:
THANKS!

aguarello said:
Ughhhh should have know that before updating and installing SuperSU to system... So no way to revert it if ROM is posterior to 3rd June? Even flashing official ROM again without root? :crying:
THANKS!
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Yes you can downgrade, i downgraded from NG2 to NE2 myself without problems. Just flash the NE2 rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Then use TR to root again.

gee2012 said:
Yes you can downgrade, i downgraded from NG2 to NE2 myself without problems. Just flash the NE2 rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Then use TR to root again.
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Downgrade is possible without tripp knox,without problems?

AEkiz said:
Downgrade is possible without tripp knox,without problems?
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Yes, KNOX is still 0x0 for me after the downgrade and the bootloader is downgraded to the NE2 one.

gee2012 said:
Yes, KNOX is still 0x0 for me after the downgrade and the bootloader is downgraded to the NE2 one.
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Thanks for your reply
maybe I'll try tomorrow

gee2012 said:
Yes you can downgrade, i downgraded from NG2 to NE2 myself without problems. Just flash the NE2 rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Then use TR to root again.
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THANKS! To downgrade you just have to flash the NE2 rom? No more files? Sorry I'm kind of a noob

aguarello said:
THANKS! To downgrade you just have to flash the NE2 rom? No more files? Sorry I'm kind of a noob
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Yes, i only flashed the older firmware without a extra PIT file or bootloader file. Make sure to untick Auto Reboot first in Odin, after the flash pull the battery, wait for 10-20 seconds, boot into recovery and do a data factory reset and then the phone should boot normal and both the firmware and bootloader are downgraded to NE2 and KNOX remains 0x0. At least it worked for me this way and i expect it to work for others the same way

[Q] How securly remove root??

Can someone tell me how to remove ROOT from s5 securly(do not trip KNOX flag), because my s5 need go to warranty???? Please help

Anyone?

Pegaz-7 said:
Anyone?
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Yep, there is!
For some reason I can't post outside links.
Search this: how to unroot galaxy s5
And select a website called wonderhowto

Pegaz-7 said:
Anyone?
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Dude realy, to get to full stock unrooted first use Triangle Away to reset the system status and the binaries. Then unroot from within the superSU app and after that flash a stock rom and data factory reset.

Here's the link
http://gs5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/unroot-your-galaxy-s5-other-android-device-0156117/http://gs5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/unroot-your-galaxy-s5-other-android-device-0156117/

gee2012 said:
Dude realy, to get to full stock unrooted first use Triangle Away to reset the system status and the binaries. Then unroot from within the superSU app and after that flash a stock rom and data factory reset.
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I know. Noobs question. But first time in life I work with KNOX. My device need go to warranty and I dont wanna trip KNOX to 0x1.
I just uninstall ROOT with SuperSU. KNOX still 0x0.

Can i Root my not 3 Running lollipop without tripping knox.

Hi, I am new to this forum. I want to know, if i can root my Note 3 without tripping knox counter. Here are the details of my phone and software. screen shot also attached.
Lollipop 5.0.
AP:N9005XXUGBOK9
CP:N9005XXUGBOD3
CSC:N9005OJVGBOI1
If it can be rooted, please describe each step. Thanks

No. Some apps claim to but don't believe them.

Yes, it is possible but you will have to downgrade to 4.4.2 first and you will probably lose your data in the process.
Link to topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/root-guide-note-3-lte-sm-n9005-lollipop-t3093183
Note: It is possible knox may still trip, so do it at your own risk.
Hope I helped!

Downgrading to stock kk may still trip Knox. I downgraded two s4 phones to stock kk from stock LP and Knox was changed to 1 from 0.

grwalker said:
No. Some apps claim to but don't believe them.
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nedvire said:
Yes, it is possible but you will have to downgrade to 4.4.2 first and you will probably lose your data in the process.
Link to topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/root-guide-note-3-lte-sm-n9005-lollipop-t3093183
Note: It is possible knox may still trip, so do it at your own risk.
Hope I helped!
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audit13 said:
Downgrading to stock kk may still trip Knox. I downgraded two s4 phones to stock kk from stock LP and Knox was changed to 1 from 0.
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OK. got it. thank you all. So, there is no 100% guarantee.
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