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[ROOT] Rooting MJ7 on SM-N9005 possible?

Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400

cool400 said:
Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
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If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7

Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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At this time - No.

I think the only safe way of rooting MJ7 at this point is if you're coming from MJ1 and can root MJ1 first. If I remember correct, MJ3 and above installs a new bootloader which has been patched to prevent RDLV and similar to get around knox. Android 4.4 KitKat is almost here, so I wouldn't worry about it.. I rooted mine just to disable knox but apart from that it's not that much else to do with it.. A few mods with Wanam Xposed if you want, but there's not that much in there that is needed for the Note 3 in my opinion..

Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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antt00 said:
What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?

Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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the answer is YES but only if you are on an non-rooted ROM. basically you don't get updates only if you are rooted

Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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Getting ota is related to the phone being in official status not knox. Even if you have issue with ota you can just download the official rom and flash with odin. There is no way tripping knox is going to prevent future rom upgrading.
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Should I upgrade from MJ7 to KitKat?
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?

Alex_007 said:
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
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KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
If you still want to stay at MJ7, and root it, I can only tell you, up to now I write this, there's still no method for a safe tripping root method for MJ7, because this firmware has a new bootloader for 4.3 which has a samsung patch. And don't ever think to downgrade to earlier 4.3, coz this is also impossible.
If you want to safe your KNOX flag, at the moment, don't root. If you want to root, you have to let go your KNOX flag.
You can wait, but nobody knows how long you should wait. because at the other end, samsung also keep on updating its bootloader.
Choice is yours, mate.
Cheers.

antique_sonic said:
KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
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Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? I guess my data won't be deleted and knox won't be affected.
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.

Alex_007 said:
Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? Will my data be lost after firmware update through Odin?
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
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Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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antique_sonic said:
Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
Sent from N7105, powered by DittoNote3 v.3.2 with AGNi PSN purestock v3.9.3 OC
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Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).

Alex_007 said:
Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
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Not trying to scare u. But u better backup ur contacts, sms, or other stuff from ur internal storage.
My last bad experience was... yes device nver ask to factory reset after update. But after few weeks of usage, it suddenly freeze until very hot, and reboot, and voila... all gone.
This happen to note 2 when upgrade via ota from 4.1.2 to 4.3. and device belongs to my boss, and I m the one who did the ota update. So happy when don't need to factory reset, but I got Fcuk when his data all suddenly gone.
Anyway... no harm back up ur important data.
Sent from N7105, powered by DittoNote3 v.3.2 with AGNi PSN purestock v3.9.3 OC

[Q] Stock installation with Knox 0x1

Hello everyone
I am now on CyanogenMod and I'm kinda sick of this "clean Android" and would like to go back to Samsung's TouchWiz.
The problem is I tripped Knox to 0x1 when I moved to CyangoenMod.
Can I go back to Stock or the Knox won't allow?
What procedure do I need to do to go back to stock?

Meyhemg said:
Hello everyone
I am now on CyanogenMod and I'm kinda sick of this "clean Android" and would like to go back to Samsung's TouchWiz.
The problem is I tripped Knox to 0x1 when I moved to CyangoenMod.
Can I go back to Stock or the Knox won't allow?
What procedure do I need to do to go back to stock?
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Download your Stock firmware from here base from your country and flash it via odin. Have a nice day.

Repulsa said:
Download your Stock firmware from here base from your country and flash it via odin. Have a nice day.
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Just download and flash regularly? Without any TriangleAway or things like that?
And what about this Knox?

Meyhemg said:
Just download and flash regularly? Without any TriangleAway or things like that?
And what about this Knox?
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Yup Just flash the stock rom and you should be fine and about Knox , dont worry about it because your phone is already voided , nothing else you can do about it until someone figure it out to reset it..and about the triangle away you can use this once you rooted your phone so that your Binary will be reset.

Repulsa said:
Yup Just flash the stock rom and you should be fine and about Knox , dont worry about it because your phone is already voided , nothing else you can do about it until someone figure it out to reset it..and about the triangle away you can use this once you rooted your phone so that your Binary will be reset.
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So after I install the stock I don't need to use Triangle Away?
Will I be able to receive OTA updates even though my Knox is 0x1?

Hi,
forget OTA updates,
and use always Odin for the updates.
It's better and faster

Yeah I know about it but anyway, will I be able to get OTA updates? And do I need to use Triangle Away after stock installation?

Newbie needs your help.

I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:

markslo112 said:
I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:
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On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).

xclub_101 said:
On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).
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Are you suggesting that I should stay on my stock ROM and wait for 4.4? I've read things about 4.4 and a lot of people say it's a lot better than 4.3, faster, etc. I'm really tired of waiting, my carrier sucks.

If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.

Spoon feeding at it's finest...
Sent from my N9005

nlatifolia said:
If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.
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Alright, but do I need to be rooted or do I need to have a custom recovery before flashing via Odin? Will flashing an official ROM trigger Knox to 0x1 or will it leave it unchanged because I don't want my garrancy void?

@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
Sent from Note 3 Superphone!

ione2380 said:
@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
Sent from Note 3 Superphone!
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Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!

I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.

markslo112 said:
Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!
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You will be able to install custom recovery/rom but it will trip your knox.
It is safe but do some reading maybe even watching a video or two on youtube to familiarize yourself on which files goes to which slot. Also, you won't be able to roll back to 4.3 at this time once you go to 4.4.

nlatifolia said:
I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.
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Well I've actually rooted and installed custom ROMS on almost every other phone I had, but the Note 3 is far the best mobile I've had and I really don't want to screw anything up. I do have experience with Odin, but I've never had any experience with Knox as no other phones had it. But I will go ahead and read stuff up.
Thanks to everyone that helped though! :fingers-crossed:

UPDATE:
Alright, so I tried flashing an official 4.4.2 firmware for my region onto my Note 3 with 4.3 via Odin 3.09. It started perfectly, but then gave me an error which said "invalid ext4 image". After a long search I did manage to find a PIT file for my phone. I then tried flashing again, but this time with the PIT file that I downloaded. It flashed fine, had to factory reset and wipe cache also. :victory:

[Q] Question about KNOX (god I hate it)

I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to the OTA 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,

nexxusty said:
I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine

jaythenut said:
knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
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Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.

nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Yes your be fine but you will loose root

nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Also, any idea how to reset the flash counter after flashing 4.4.2? Or will it be ok considering I only rooted?
Not sure on this either.

jaythenut said:
Yes your be fine but you will loose root
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NP losing root.
Thanks!

Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.

nexxusty said:
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
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No issues, back to Official status.
I actually have major flashlighting on the left side of my screen. Only visible with white is anywhere BUT the left side of the screen (Best way I can explain it). Anyone know if Samsung will repair this?
Not interested in defective hardware, it's obvious this Note 3 is a one off and needs a new screen. Hoping Samsung is not going to deny me.
Just need to pick up my replacement HTC One on my actual plan (Bought this one straight up, HTC One I had was lost, have insurance.).
REALLY would like to know about the flash counter before I send this off. It has been rooted with Root De La Whatever it is (LOL) then unrooted via SuperSU, then I Odin'd the 4.4.2 update. There was a checkbox ticked called "F.Reset Time", is that it?
I'll look a bit before making my own thread on this one if no has a quick answer.
Thanks again, XDA never lets me down.

[Q] CWM recovery removal with out tripping Knox Counter??

I recently purchased a SM-N900W8. Love this device, just retired my S2 which i messed around with for a few years and never had issues...
I neglected to do research on XDA (Big mistake) before rooting it and had no idea about the repercussions of this KNOX issue.
I used this method to root it (http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-3/)
I successfully installed CWM recovery and SuperSu and the phone is rooted. I had no intentions of installing Custom Roms just yet just wanted to be able to use some of my favorite apps that require rooting. The phones Current Binary and Phone status have both been tagged custom but my KNOX Warranty Void is still tagged at 0X0. Needless to say maybe I got lucky?
I was hoping to Revert to Stock and Unroot so I could follow this method instead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850)
Is there anyways to Accomplish this without tripping the KNOX counter? I've been scouring the forums for several hours trying to find a concrete answer but cannot.
I have downloaded my stock firmware (http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26653)
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have included a screenshot of my device info. I apologize in advance if this issue has already been addressed.
Thanks,
-Rob

For device info and Knox warranty status, you can use my app Phone INFO ★Samsung★ to get more detailed info.
Download link in my signature.

Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005

Dejan Sathanas said:
Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005
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Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.

SSJ3Rob said:
Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.
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Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
Sent From My SM-N9005 To All You Wonder Nobodies!!

Khizar said:
Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
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I will leave as is for now until more info on the subject surfaces. As much as I want to try to flash back to stock recovery and test your theory I will hold out and not mess around with CWM or mess with apps requiring root to much incase it decides to trip the counter.
Thanks.