The Verizon Droid Turbo and the Moto Maxx really should have separate threads. They are essentially two different phones; The Turbo is CDMA, and has a locked bootkloader, the Moto Maxx is GSM, and has an unlocked bootloader. Keeping the threads together increases the risk that someone, without reading thoroughly, will attempt to flash something they shouldn't to their Turbo. Although unlikely, it may cause some people to brick their devices.
I don't even see anything that says Moto Maxx anywhere. All Turbo here.
dbornack said:
I don't even see anything that says Moto Maxx anywhere. All Turbo here.
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uhh, the top two threads in General are for the the Moto Maxx and the development section is entirely for the Moto Maxx
BladeRunner said:
uhh, the top two threads in General are for the the Moto Maxx and the development section is entirely for the Moto Maxx
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from my understanding they wont. They are identical in specs. Basically the same device. Even though the moto maxx is gsm, the droid turbo is unlocked to do the same thing. It too can be used on other networks.
There is a separate thread in the Galaxy Nexus section for the Verizon Variant, so there is precedent.
There are plenty of devices where the carrier branded specifics have their own form section. I don't see why the DT should be any different. I'd rather not see posts about the Moto Maxx here, they just clutter up the feed.
Too bad XDA doesn't have better filters to weed out stuff you never want to see.
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BladeRunner said:
uhh, the top two threads in General are for the the Moto Maxx and the development section is entirely for the Moto Maxx
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I just meant the sections laid out. If people post in the Turbo forum about a phone that isn't the Turbo, they aren't smart. That said, I do understand they don't have their own forum, and that the phones are essentially the same. If the demand for a Maxx forum isn't high, then I guess I don't mind. But they should have their own forum as updates, root, issues, etc. are completely separate.
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from my understanding they wont. They are identical in specs. Basically the same device. Even though the moto maxx is gsm, the droid turbo is unlocked to do the same thing. It too can be used on other networks.
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Then make a sub-forum. There are separate forums for the different Note 4 carrier versions. This shouldn't be an issue.
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Droid Ultra, Droid MAXX, Droid Mini, and last but not least, the Moto X!
The Moto X won't be a Droid on Verizon, since Motorola wants to keep it as close to a Nexus as possible.
My Droid 4 has been a workhorse, but I think either the Droid Ultra or Moto X will be my next phone.
Any thoughts on this?
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Droid Ultra, Droid MAXX, Droid Mini, and last but not least, the Moto X!
The Moto X won't be a Droid on Verizon, since Motorola wants to keep it as close to a Nexus as possible.
My Droid 4 has been a workhorse, but I think either the Droid Ultra or Moto X will be my next phone.
Any thoughts on this?
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My only thought is "No hardware QWERTY keyboards".
Lol, probably should've expected that in this forum
I understand that a qwerty keyboard is amazing, but I understand why many OEM's are ditching them to get thinner phones
alex94kumar said:
Lol, probably should've expected that in this forum
I understand that a qwerty keyboard is amazing, but I understand why many OEM's are ditching them to get thinner phones
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I don't.
I don't see much in the moto lineup that is bringing anything new to the table in as far as the same sort of thing is available from Samsung, HTC, etc. If the Moto X could have a back cover you could remove, and attach a QWERTY keyboard slider instead, then I might be a bit more interested. Choosing the colour, or etching, or whatever? Big deal.
Well there are reports of Motorola dropping in a camera technology called 'Clear Pixel', something that's new to smartphones. If the Moto X doesn't impress, then I probably will be heading to the Droid Ultra
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what's this about the double locked bootlaoders? Also, where's the qwerty?
If you're prepared to lose the hardware keyboard, may as well just get an HTC One or Galaxy S4 or something.
Personally I don't see the need for thinner and thinner phones. Whenever I handle my GF's Galaxy S3 I'm always afraid it will snap if I'm not really really careful with it.
Also, thicker phone means bigger battery, and seeing how there is nothing in the near future that will allow us to squeeze more power into a smaller space, it would make sense
The battery is the biggest bottleneck in technology IMHO, whether it be phones, laptops, or even electric cars
I think with google buying motorola. I Dont feel like buy a new device anymore. So droid razr m and droid 4 are my last phone from them. It started in 2011 when google told motorola probably to lock the backdoor from their device with razr. Motorola took dedicated button for shutter camera unlike 2010. Last year it was probably because of google that moto choose to lock the sd card and micro sim card option in droid razr hd/maxx and m like the iphone like. Now this year no sd option.
Im not liking Google temparing with Moto as they are
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My only thought is "No hardware QWERTY keyboards".
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Sold that damn thing out, cannot live with boundaries.
Back on the Optimus G,
Exactly
I feel the same way and the reason I sold my razr m and was lucky enough to find a Razr HD Maxx with an unlockable bootloader. Freedom is a must. :good:
Thanks for sharing.
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Hello, i just wanted bring all of you together to read this thread. Ok so i know since you've been a Moto owner, you've heard or seen at least once insulting comment about your device or the Motorola company. For example, "Anything that Motorola makes sucks" "People only get them because they're cheap" "That phone is crappy". I know that those people are ignorant to other people's liking. I'm tired of hearing the same thing. A lot of people that own super expensive high end- flashy smartphones say things like that about devices like the Moto series. Well that really offends me, just because they might not be the most high-end smartphones or the most expensive smartphones doesn't mean they are worthless. We Moto owners take great pride in our device, we appreciate what we have and we value our smartphones.
If someone offered me a brand new Galaxy S6 and a brand new Moto X and said i could only pick one. I would pick the Moto X hands down without a doubt in my mind. Because I know, We know what matters in a smartphone. What is that? User experience and performance for the price. That's what a review comes down to at the end of the day. A company could make a super spec'd out smartphone but get the same review score as a phone a fraction of its cost. I know if i were to buy a $1000 smartphone it better be great in every aspect and i know if i bought a smartphone for half that price, i'm not expecting it to be perfect but i want to have a good performance. That's exactly what motorola does, it gives you a great performing phone for the price.
For example, the Moto G. It has a low price point but does everything you need it to do. If I want a super powerful gaming machine of a smartphone, I'm not going to buy the Moto G. Then give a bad review for not being able to do what i wanted it to. I'm gonna buy a smartphone with a powerful chipset. At the end of the day we Moto owners stand out. Other people don't seem to understand our taste in smartphones value. Im not saying if you own a super expensive phone you're a bad person or anything. I'm just saying you get what you pay for. All of you Moto owners, good job in picking a smartphone. It doesn't matter if you have a Moto E, a Moto G or a Moto X. We all are equal and unified. #Teammoto
Proof that price doesn't matter
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I have a Moto X 2013 and I had recently acquired a Samsung Galaxy S4. The S4 ran hotter, slower, and had screen issues. I ended up selling it for less than it cost for me to buy and repair the Galaxy S4. Custom rom support for the samsung galaxy S4 was amazing. I really look forward to seeing how the Moto X 2013 handles with lollipop.
Mods. Please ask the OP to change the title. This was simply wrong.
I would really like sd card slot.
This thread is full of win.
the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
andTab said:
the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
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You're just jealous you didn't have the idea to create a badass thread like this.
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andTab said:
the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
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You're just jealous you didn't have the idea to create a badass thread like this.
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Mods, please do everyone a favor and close this thread. While I truly appreciate someone trying to start something positive here about the Moto X, after the last couple of posts, I can see exactly where this thread is going and it's not a nice place. I'm all for people expressing their opinion but I think that it may be better for everyone that's on this forum to nip it in the bud. It's already starting to go downhill and this thread was started earlier today.
By the way, I do own a Moto X (2013) Developer Edition and think that it's a wonderful phone. The screen went black on the one that I owned all of a sudden a week and a half ago. I called Motorola and got a warranty replacement within one week. Thank goodness I had a Samsung Galaxy S3 that I could use as a backup but when I got my Moto X back, I realized the exact reason why I love the Motorola smartphones. Samsung Galaxy S3 drags when you compare it to the Moto X (2013) Developer Edition.
Glad to have my little speed demon back.
Coming from a proud Motorola Moto X owner.
Motorola is lame in case of updating moto x to lollipop while other phones are being updated as soon as new firmware is available.
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Motorola is lame in case of updating moto x to lollipop while other phones are being updated as soon as new firmware is available.
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That's odd. The only Android phones that I know of that get the updates as soon as the new firmware is available are the Nexus line of smartphones. All of the other ones, you do have to wait a little while before the update rolls out. You know, sometimes it is not the phone manufacturer's fault that the update is delayed. Sometimes it can be because of something on your wireless phone carrier's end. I know Verizon is famous for delaying the releases until all of their bloatware will work with the phone's update. I've experienced it on multiple phones with them (Samsung and Motorola) and that part is very frustrating. There is no need in throwing Motorola under the bus on this.
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That's odd. The only Android phones that I know of that get the updates as soon as the new firmware is available are the Nexus line of smartphones. All of the other ones, you do have to wait a little while before the update rolls out. You know, sometimes it is not the phone manufacturer's fault that the update is delayed. Sometimes it can be because of something on your wireless phone carrier's end. I know Verizon is famous for delaying the releases until all of their bloatware will work with the phone's update. I've experienced it on multiple phones with them (Samsung and Motorola) and that part is very frustrating. There is no need in throwing Motorola under the bus on this.
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As you see for moto x didnt get the update yet but my s4 got it. M not criticising moto i love my moto x but they are slow in contrast to updates..
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As you see for moto x didnt get the update yet but my s4 got it. M not criticising moto i love my moto x but they are slow in contrast to updates..
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Well, that's just an anomaly. Normally, Samsung is slow as molasses about their updates. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 Wi-Fi model and it hasn't received the Lollipop update yet. My sister has the S5 and she got her Lollopop update fairly quickly but her phone doesn't work as well as my Moto X does now. Wonder if Samsung pushed it out too quickly and didn't get all of the bugs out. Some of my friends have the Samsung phones that got the Lollipop update and while it runs okay, they also have issues with this new update.
Something to ponder. Maybe we ought to be patient and wait for the parties involved to get all the little kinks worked out of this update before they roll it out to everyone.
Really disappointed with my LG G4.
It took months to get root, there are 10 variants each with different software and only 1 has an officially unlocked boot-loader. There are virtually no custom ROMs for my phone.
What do you guys predict this phone will be like within the modding community? Hardware wise this would be a step down for me, but if that means a decent trade-off software wise I think it would be worth it. And maybe what do you guys think about posing my question towards the 2015 Nexus 5?
Hardware wise the g4 and the style are almost identical. What's a step down? If root and romming are high priorities for you, I'd look for the nexuses
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Well the camera on the G4 is a bit nicer, the removable battery is nicer, larger expandable storage, barometer, ect. Compare on phonearena. Theres no debating the G4 is a better phone, but software wise it's not the phone for me. I think I can stick it out till October. Sucks waiting while my G4 drops in value.
I'll give you the camera ? Being that the X pure will be sim unlocked I think most of us are assuming the bootloaders will be easily unlockable. On the other hand, the dev community is always the best for nexus phones.
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I think the main reason that the dev community sucks on the LG G4 (I almost got it earlier in the year until I was following the root debacle) is that only one model (the international 815 variant) had an unlockable bootloader and root took forever to achieve. With the Moto -- being a "pure" or "dev-like" non-carrier chained model, there is a large assumption that the bootloader will be easily unlocked and if this is the case, root should be no harder than flashing the latest SuperSU.
The recently released Moto G has an unlockable bootloader, as do previous non-carrier linked Moto X's -- so there is no reason to believe ours won't be as well: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
And if/when the bootloader if opened, you should start to see a healthy dose of deving -- although many people have raved how "pure" Moto's implementation of Android is, so you may find you may not need to flash a new ROM, but instead maybe just root and a few key utilities like Xposed to get what you want. I flashed custom ROMs on almost every phone I've had, with the exception of the Nexus 5 -- because there really wasn't a need to. But it's nice to have choices
It seems to me that there is less available for the Moto X 2014 in terms of ROMs, kernels and such than I'd have expected. That's good reason for a lot of us to pin our hopes on the Huawei Nexus. I was figuring that there would be heavy development for the Pure. But now, I'm not quite so sure. Will Motorola release the source code?
I agree that Xposed can cover a bunch of things that ROMs would. I don't always use them, either. But as pinoymutt says, it's nice to have choices.
Guys remember we cannot predict the dev community for this device yet. I think this will attract a lot of attention because it is a uncarrier version and cheap. If you compare to the moto x 2014 it isn't exactly the same situation because they had carrier versions and what not. The price for this device is also attractive so I think the dev community will explode. From day one we can all have our bootloaders unlocked and as soon as someone converts TWRP we will be off to the races. One thing is certain, this will have a lot more support over the G4. I'm excited to see what will happen
I would lay decent odds that this device will see more than adequate support. No carrier limitation, unlocked and cheap with great specs is going to draw people in.
Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
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Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
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It's probably a boot animation that can be adjusted. I've never had a moto device but I bet there are tools out there
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Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
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On the previous Xs there was an option to delete it when you did a factory reset.
I think this phone will have an excellent community following here. There are a lot of posts here considering nobody has the phone yet. The critics will always do their thing but I'm thinking we have a winner here. I'm looking forward to it.
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I think this phone will have an excellent community following here. There are a lot of posts here considering nobody has the phone yet. The critics will always do their thing but I'm thinking we have a winner here. I'm looking forward to it.
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+1 oh how I hope so.
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I hope so. I am coming from nexus 5 and expect this to have a large development community
Are there any devs with this phone that would like to formulate ideas and code to try to root this at the very least? It's too good of a phone to have completely locked down by Verizon. Is there anyway to Port roms onto this like they did the Droid turbo?
there was brief discussion here https://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/root-verizon-t3507253 but nothing came of it.
honestly i think this phone hardly sold vs the samsung galaxy line... so due to the low user-base theres not as much interest. which is a shame b/c it is a really great phone.
Still using my ole Droid Turbo with lollipop. Kinda hoping for a newer Droid we can root.