Just got my Z3 compact yesterday and realized that it was the D5833 version which doesn't support T-Mobile band's for LTE in my area (US). I am having to return my package along with waiting for a D5803 version and my refund. Just be careful because this D5833 variant can give you trouble. It supported up to HSPA+ no problem by the way. Might work in other countries but not in the US for me. GL!
You can check the bands for the two Z3 Compact variants here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php
2G bands
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 (D5803 / D5833)
3G bands
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - D5803
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - D5833
4G bands
LTE 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - D5803
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - D5833
LTE 2300 TD-LTE - D5833
As a side note... the D5803 carries the bands for Verizon, but there is confirmed issues with using it on their system. The thread is in the Q&A section.
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Just as the question say:
TMo SGS2 Qualcomm vs. SGS2 siblings (AT&T/Sprint) Exynos... Is it worth it?
Found this on the other forum that I found interesting, and could be a debatable topic:
The AWS (1700) bands are supported only by a handful of carriers. It doesn't exist at all in Europe and Asia. There's little reason for manufacturers to include it on their global phones as so few people use it. It's the reason the T-Mobile SGS2 has a Qualcomm chip instead of Exynos like the rest of them. After the merger, it won't even exist in the U.S. any longer as AT&T plans on using it (1700) for LTE. If you want versatility and the ability to use unlocked phones, change to AT&T.
^Even international version doesn't support T-Mobile 3g/4g (HSPA+) network.. Not many phones support their network. Or maybe it will.. but not everywhere
AT&T SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
T-Mobile SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
International SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
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I iz da XDA usah! Vibrant baby!
I just bought a Xperia Arc S (LT18a) Unlocked on Amazon.com, and I was wondering if there's anyway to get 3G on my phone, according to GSMArena this are my phone capabilities:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100 - LT18i
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800 - LT18a
Orange Dominicana is 900/1900Mhz on 3G
EDGE on Orange is so slow.. Is there anyway to make it work at least on HSDPA?
Thanks
What if I flashboot my LT18a to a LT18i Kernel & Baseband??
They probably use both 1900/900. Doubtful.
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So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
gee2012 said:
Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
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Thanks bud, but that doesnt answer my question, I dont need to know what coverage is in my area, but more what phone is capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+
Yes it will. T-Mobile used 1700 and 2100 for HSDPA.
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gee2012 said:
Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
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El Daddy said:
Yes it will. T-Mobile used 1700 and 2100 for HSDPA.
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Thanks EL Daddy! So if a phone lists those bands 1700/2100 that means it'll work with HSPA?
I ask because I am also looking at this phone the Xperia S and those bands are :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LT26i
Jess813 said:
Thanks EL Daddy! So if a phone lists those bands 1700/2100 that means it'll work with HSPA?
I ask because I am also looking at this phone the Xperia S and those bands are :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LT26i
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That one will probably not work as I believe you need both the 1700 & 2100 to work ( up & downlink connection).
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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3G or UMTS is as follows;
2100 refers to Band I / IMT and is used in Europe and Asia
1900 refers to Band II / PCS and is used by AT&T in cities, and by T-Mobile (1900 migration).
1700 refers to Band IV / AWS and is used by T-Mobile (most HSPA service is still here).
850 refers to Band V / CLR and is used by AT&T in rural areas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
T-Mobile is slowly moving HSPA from 1700 to 1900 to support unlocked iPhones and free up 1700 for LTE deployment.
I would look for a phone that supports both (1700 now, 1900 future) or it may have a short life span.
Rod3 said:
That one will probably not work as I believe you need both the 1700 & 2100 to work ( up & downlink connection).
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Awesome! I see now, so in order for the phone to work on HSPA it needs both 1700/2100 bandz. AAHHHHHH SWEET! Thanks guys I made sure to hit the thanks button on both of you!
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Nexus 4 works great on T-mobiles HSPA+ . I regularly get 20.8 mbps down/2.5 mbps up.. and this is in a 1700/2100 mhz AWS area .. PDX area has not been refarmed to 1900mhz yet - and Nexus 4 supports both 1900 mhz HSPA+ and AWS HSPA+ - so no worries.
Jess813 said:
Awesome! I see now, so in order for the phone to work on HSPA it needs both 1700/2100 bandz. AAHHHHHH SWEET! Thanks guys I made sure to hit the thanks button on both of you!
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Just to clear up one thing. T-Mobile often refers to 2100 as the Download Frequency of AWS (Band IV), while most hardware manufactures reference 2100 as IMT (Band I). See column 2 in the wikipedia link I posted earlier.
I get both bands here in NYC (mostly AWS) and the speed is about the same on both (20 Mbps / 2.5 Mbps), but ping results are quite a bit lower on PCS.
SpookyTunes said:
Just to clear up one thing. T-Mobile often refers to 2100 as the Download Frequency of AWS (Band IV), while most hardware manufactures reference 2100 as IMT (Band I). See column 2 in the wikipedia link I posted earlier.
I get both bands here in NYC (mostly AWS) and the speed is about the same on both (20 Mbps / 2.5 Mbps), but ping results are quite a bit lower on PCS.
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Ok cool thanks for the clear up....
i think i am going with this one for T-mobile, so I should be good right?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-4899.php
I was recently told by a senior member of this forum that all snapdragon LTE support the same bands, and the bands are activated based on the sim card inserted.
is this true?
i went on samsung's website to compare the g900f and the canadian version of the s5, the supported bands listed are different.
i'm contemplating on buying the g900f, european version but i'm concerned with not being able to get on the 4g network here in Canada with the euro variant.
thanks for any input.
kl25 said:
I was recently told by a senior member of this forum that all snapdragon LTE support the same bands, and the bands are activated based on the sim card inserted.
is this true?
i went on samsung's website to compare the g900f and the canadian version of the s5, the supported bands listed are different.
i'm contemplating on buying the g900f, european version but i'm concerned with not being able to get on the 4g network here in Canada with the euro variant.
thanks for any input.
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No, they don't. Hence the multitude of variants.
drakester09 said:
No, they don't. Hence the multitude of variants.
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is the difference in the hardware or what region modem is on the device?
Hellscythe said:
is the difference in the hardware or what region modem is on the device?
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On the chipset side of things there's only one difference: Exynos (G900H) and Snapdragon (the rest of models).
All Exynos carry an Intel baseband (of dubious power efficiency IMHO)
The modem as you mentioned and the carrier variants are responsible for the multitude of Snapdragon variants.
drakester09 said:
On the chipset side of things there's only one difference: Exynos (G900H) and Snapdragon (the rest of models).
All Exynos carry an Intel baseband (of dubious power efficiency IMHO)
The modem as you mentioned and the carrier variants are responsible for the multitude of Snapdragon variants.
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So essentially my 900I can be turned into a 900F with a modem flash?
drakester09 said:
On the chipset side of things there's only one difference: Exynos (G900H) and Snapdragon (the rest of models).
All Exynos carry an Intel baseband (of dubious power efficiency IMHO)
The modem as you mentioned and the carrier variants are responsible for the multitude of Snapdragon variants.
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does that mean i can flash a 900w8 modem onto a 900f?
oops sorry didnt realize poster above asked similar quesiton
Hellscythe said:
So essentially my 900I can be turned into a 900F with a modem flash?
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kl25 said:
does that mean i can flash a 900w8 modem onto a 900f?
oops sorry didnt realize poster above asked similar quesiton
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Nope, I think. The baseband must be different I would assume, they support different bands.
Just a little sample of what I mean:
3G Network:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900H (Exynos, no 4G)
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900V, SM-G900P (CDMA)
4G Network
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
LTE 700 MHz Class 13 / 1700 / 2100 - SM-G900V (CDMA)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900R4 (CDMA)
LTE 850 / 1900 / 2500 - SM-G900P (CDMA)
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drakester09 said:
Nope, I think. The baseband must be different I would assume, they support different bands.
Just a little sample of what I mean:
3G Network:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900H (Exynos, no 4G)
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900V, SM-G900P (CDMA)
4G Network
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
LTE 700 MHz Class 13 / 1700 / 2100 - SM-G900V (CDMA)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900R4 (CDMA)
LTE 850 / 1900 / 2500 - SM-G900P (CDMA)
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Hi! I have a similar question. I bought a GS5 (G900F Version, imported from Asia), In my country (Chile) it works on 4G LTE 2,6GHz, but the lower band of 4G is 700MHz, which apparently is not supported by this model (it supports 800MHz).
The official model here is the G900M, so my question is if I can flash the "modem.bin" from a G900M to my G900F, with Odin, but without rooting my device (to avoid Knox tripping or Imei problems)? Is it possible? or I simply waste my money?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks for your help!!!
Allaann said:
Hi! I have a similar question. I bought a GS5 (G900F Version, imported from Asia), In my country (Chile) it works on 4G LTE 2,6GHz, but the lower band of 4G is 700MHz, which apparently is not supported by this model (it supports 800MHz).
The official model here is the G900M, so my question is if I can flash the "modem.bin" from a G900M to my G900F, with Odin, but without rooting my device (to avoid Knox tripping or Imei problems)? Is it possible? or I simply waste my money?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks for your help!!!
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No it wont work on many accounts, basically you cant flash a different CSC firmware etc to an alternate CSC device unless you change the CSC of that device or root(and of course the lte modem may not be supported). (an app called Phone INFO is available on Play Store to check, use at your own risk). That doesnt mean it is impossible, however, it is highly unlikely. I hope that cleared things up
Hello! I have just unlocked my phone from mobileincanada.com/
Is my phone compatible with wind?
I have the Rogers SM-G900W8 is wind also the same?
Rogers:
Connectivity GSM/EDGE Bands:850/900/1800/1900 MHz HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850 / 1900 / 2100 MHzLTE Bands:700 / 850 / 900 / AWS / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 MHzDevice Speed (LTE):Up to 150 Mbps1
Wind Mobile:
CONNECTIVITY
Frequencies / Bands2G 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
3G 850, AWS, 1900, 2100 MHz
Help greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
100% positive it'll work with wind or mobilicity