I was recently told by a senior member of this forum that all snapdragon LTE support the same bands, and the bands are activated based on the sim card inserted.
is this true?
i went on samsung's website to compare the g900f and the canadian version of the s5, the supported bands listed are different.
i'm contemplating on buying the g900f, european version but i'm concerned with not being able to get on the 4g network here in Canada with the euro variant.
thanks for any input.
kl25 said:
I was recently told by a senior member of this forum that all snapdragon LTE support the same bands, and the bands are activated based on the sim card inserted.
is this true?
i went on samsung's website to compare the g900f and the canadian version of the s5, the supported bands listed are different.
i'm contemplating on buying the g900f, european version but i'm concerned with not being able to get on the 4g network here in Canada with the euro variant.
thanks for any input.
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No, they don't. Hence the multitude of variants.
drakester09 said:
No, they don't. Hence the multitude of variants.
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is the difference in the hardware or what region modem is on the device?
Hellscythe said:
is the difference in the hardware or what region modem is on the device?
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On the chipset side of things there's only one difference: Exynos (G900H) and Snapdragon (the rest of models).
All Exynos carry an Intel baseband (of dubious power efficiency IMHO)
The modem as you mentioned and the carrier variants are responsible for the multitude of Snapdragon variants.
drakester09 said:
On the chipset side of things there's only one difference: Exynos (G900H) and Snapdragon (the rest of models).
All Exynos carry an Intel baseband (of dubious power efficiency IMHO)
The modem as you mentioned and the carrier variants are responsible for the multitude of Snapdragon variants.
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So essentially my 900I can be turned into a 900F with a modem flash?
drakester09 said:
On the chipset side of things there's only one difference: Exynos (G900H) and Snapdragon (the rest of models).
All Exynos carry an Intel baseband (of dubious power efficiency IMHO)
The modem as you mentioned and the carrier variants are responsible for the multitude of Snapdragon variants.
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does that mean i can flash a 900w8 modem onto a 900f?
oops sorry didnt realize poster above asked similar quesiton
Hellscythe said:
So essentially my 900I can be turned into a 900F with a modem flash?
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kl25 said:
does that mean i can flash a 900w8 modem onto a 900f?
oops sorry didnt realize poster above asked similar quesiton
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Nope, I think. The baseband must be different I would assume, they support different bands.
Just a little sample of what I mean:
3G Network:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900H (Exynos, no 4G)
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900V, SM-G900P (CDMA)
4G Network
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
LTE 700 MHz Class 13 / 1700 / 2100 - SM-G900V (CDMA)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900R4 (CDMA)
LTE 850 / 1900 / 2500 - SM-G900P (CDMA)
Other (same?) question
drakester09 said:
Nope, I think. The baseband must be different I would assume, they support different bands.
Just a little sample of what I mean:
3G Network:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900H (Exynos, no 4G)
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900V, SM-G900P (CDMA)
4G Network
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
LTE 700 MHz Class 13 / 1700 / 2100 - SM-G900V (CDMA)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900R4 (CDMA)
LTE 850 / 1900 / 2500 - SM-G900P (CDMA)
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Hi! I have a similar question. I bought a GS5 (G900F Version, imported from Asia), In my country (Chile) it works on 4G LTE 2,6GHz, but the lower band of 4G is 700MHz, which apparently is not supported by this model (it supports 800MHz).
The official model here is the G900M, so my question is if I can flash the "modem.bin" from a G900M to my G900F, with Odin, but without rooting my device (to avoid Knox tripping or Imei problems)? Is it possible? or I simply waste my money?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks for your help!!!
Allaann said:
Hi! I have a similar question. I bought a GS5 (G900F Version, imported from Asia), In my country (Chile) it works on 4G LTE 2,6GHz, but the lower band of 4G is 700MHz, which apparently is not supported by this model (it supports 800MHz).
The official model here is the G900M, so my question is if I can flash the "modem.bin" from a G900M to my G900F, with Odin, but without rooting my device (to avoid Knox tripping or Imei problems)? Is it possible? or I simply waste my money?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks for your help!!!
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No it wont work on many accounts, basically you cant flash a different CSC firmware etc to an alternate CSC device unless you change the CSC of that device or root(and of course the lte modem may not be supported). (an app called Phone INFO is available on Play Store to check, use at your own risk). That doesnt mean it is impossible, however, it is highly unlikely. I hope that cleared things up
Hi everyone,
I've done some searches in regards of,
Do we have a "3G'd" Z3?
No, Basically all 4 / 5 variants of the Z3 is going to pack a LTE capable with it,
D6603: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 :UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
Below you can add which carrier is for each model, thanks in advance.
Sources: Z3 Documentation White Paper By Sony
GSMArena's Z3 Specs Page.
Xperia Z3 Dual GSMArena's Specs Page
Every phone support 3G
Sent from my C6903 using XDA Free mobile app
All have quad band 2G
D6603, D6633, D6643, D6616 have penta-band 3G.
D6653 and chinese models (L55t, L55u) only have quad band 3G(1/2/5/8), missing the AWS 1700mhz band 4.
LTE, you'll have to look at your network and see which bands are more important and are supported
The 6603 has more bands than this! For LTE that is.
electrash said:
Every phone support 3G
Sent from my C6903 using XDA Free mobile app
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Yup of course every 4G phone has a 3G band but i meant that i found a multiple model numbers and they all support 4G.
paperWastage said:
All have quad band 2G
D6603, D6633, D6643, D6616 have penta-band 3G.
D6653 and chinese models (L55t, L55u) only have quad band 3G(1/2/5/8), missing the AWS 1700mhz band 4.
LTE, you'll have to look at your network and see which bands are more important and are supported
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If you look at the manual it says 4G.
Jhon998 said:
If you look at the manual it says 4G.
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(if you are saying 4G = LTE, then yes)
but LTE is a lot more fragmented than 3G (penta band will cover almost all networks), 2G (quad band will cover almost all networks)
that's why it makes sense to say: quad-band 2G & penta-band 3G support = cover most people
paperWastage said:
(if you are saying 4G = LTE, then yes)
but LTE is a lot more fragmented than 3G (penta band will cover almost all networks), 2G (quad band will cover almost all networks)
that's why it makes sense to say quad-band 2G & penta-band 3G support = cover most people
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Thanks for info, but i say 4G i mean LTE but i feel there is some difference.
Jhon998 said:
Hi everyone,
I have a simple answer to a question,
Do we have a 3G'd Z3?
No, Basically all 4 / 5 variants of the Z3 is going to pack a 4G capable with it,
D6603: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600
D6643: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
D6653: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 700 / 800 / 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
D6616: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 1700 / 1900 / 2100
D6633: Dual SIM / The same Bands as D6603.
I would be appreciated if someone could tell me what carriers is for every model, thanks in advance.
Sources: Z3 Documentation White Paper By Sony
GSMArena's Z3 Specs Page.
Xperia Z3 Dual GSMArena's Specs Page
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The specs you listed is not accurate. I have posted the correct ones which I copied directly from the white paper.
D6603 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
Sango2 said:
The specs you listed is not accurate. I have posted the correct ones which I copied directly from the white paper.
D6603 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
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OP Updated, btw i like the new design of xda.
Jhon998 said:
OP Updated, btw i like the new design of xda.
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Much better.
Oh yes, I like it the design too; much more optimized.
Could anyone confirm bands from 6653?.
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That screenshoot is from te very Z3 6653
Thanks.
awsome
caqo71 said:
Could anyone confirm bands from 6653?.
That screenshoot is from te very Z3 6653
Thanks.
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Just an FYI. I have D6653 flashed with D6603 rom and it kept all of the same bands
Brendo said:
Just an FYI. I have D6653 flashed with D6603 rom and it kept all of the same bands
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Does'n it affect anything else?, I know the bands are hardware related, so it could be nice to flash a 6603 rom. I'll try that. thanks :good:
caqo71 said:
Does'n it affect anything else?, I know the bands are hardware related, so it could be nice to flash a 6603 rom. I'll try that. thanks :good:
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Nothing that I've noticed. Just a change in model number
Brendo said:
Nothing that I've noticed. Just a change in model number
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Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to unlock LTE band 4 on D6653? I need to use that band with my carrier and the phone doesn't include it.
Thanks
Santis7 said:
Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to unlock LTE band 4 on D6653? I need to use that band with my carrier and the phone doesn't include it.
Thanks
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Give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
I have a D6653 as well, wanted to flash to D6603 so I can us a AWS carrier (and root)
Santis7 said:
Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to unlock LTE band 4 on D6653? I need to use that band with my carrier and the phone doesn't include it.
Thanks
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weliyt said:
Give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
I have a D6653 as well, wanted to flash to D6603 so I can us a AWS carrier (and root)
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NO, bands are not unlockable, they are HARDWARE, so, wichever rom that you flash, they will keep you the same bands.
caqo71 said:
NO, bands are not unlockable, they are HARDWARE, so, wichever rom that you flash, they will keep you the same bands.
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I don't see why not.
D6603 and D6653 have exactly the same hardware. Bands restriction can be lifted if those restrictions are by software.
Edit:
Flashing another ROM might not lift bands restriction, but manually editing system props might do the trick.
Have a read of the link I posted.
Can anyone confirm if unlocked AT&T models of the Galaxy S 4 and S 4 mini would be compatible with networks in South Korea? Thanks in advance.
jooniloh said:
Can anyone confirm if unlocked AT&T models of the Galaxy S 4 and S 4 mini would be compatible with networks in South Korea? Thanks in advance.
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You'll have to compare which radio frequencies the phone is compatible with and what the carrier uses. I know the first can be found on Wikipedia, and possibly the carrier frequencies also.
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DeadlySin9 said:
You'll have to compare which radio frequencies the phone is compatible with and what the carrier uses. I know the first can be found on Wikipedia, and possibly the carrier frequencies also.
Sent from my SGH-I337
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I did that, and then I ran into this chart and kinda freaked out. Do only the frequency bands matter?
The ATT S 4 seems to definitely have 850 MHz for LTE which SK has in Korea. I couldn't find as reliable information for the S 4 Mini though. Wikipedia also lists SK as having a UMTS/HSPA network at 2100 MHz and according to GSM Arena, the S 4 supports HSDPA on 2100 MHz. So does that mean it's compatible?
jooniloh said:
I did that, and then I ran into this chart and kinda freaked out. Do only the frequency bands matter?
The ATT S 4 seems to definitely have 850 MHz for LTE which SK has in Korea. I couldn't find as reliable information for the S 4 Mini though. Wikipedia also lists SK as having a UMTS/HSPA network at 2100 MHz and according to GSM Arena, the S 4 supports HSDPA on 2100 MHz. So does that mean it's compatible?
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Wikipedia has the international S4 Mini listed with the same frequency bands, and if the I337 has them then I can only assume the Mini would. So as far as I know it should be compatible. However, if you're talking about SK Telecom, their wikipedia page also says things about CDMA, and I don't know if that'll work at all.
DeadlySin9 said:
Wikipedia has the international S4 Mini listed with the same frequency bands, and if the I337 has them then I can only assume the Mini would. So as far as I know it should be compatible. However, if you're talking about SK Telecom, their wikipedia page also says things about CDMA, and I don't know if that'll work at all.
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:/ I was hoping for SK since that had the most matches with bands. Also, I don't think that's necessarily true because when I was looking at S4 specs on either Phone Arena or GSM Arena, they had listed some bands that the AT&T model didn't have that the others did. I assume the same would be the case for the S4 Mini but I don't recall seeing AT&T specific specs regarding the bands for it.
Here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9505_galaxy_s4-5371.php
and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Telecom#Services
GSM Arena has this:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SGH-i337
No 900 on AT&T.
and
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17) - SGH-i337
No 800, 900, and 1800 on AT&T.
Wikipedia lists SK Telecom as having UMTS/HSPA on 2100 and LTE on 850. Wouldn't that work with the i337?
jooniloh said:
Here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9505_galaxy_s4-5371.php
and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Telecom#Services
GSM Arena has this:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SGH-i337
No 900 on AT&T.
and
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17) - SGH-i337
No 800, 900, and 1800 on AT&T.
Wikipedia lists SK Telecom as having UMTS/HSPA on 2100 and LTE on 850. Wouldn't that work with the i337?
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I suppose it should then, I've just known CDMA and GSM phones not to cross. My friend tried a Verizon SIM in my S4 and it seemed not to work, but I'm not knowledgeable about the differences of GSM and CDMA and whether or not all service will work correctly.