Hi! I got Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (Model SM-N910C). Im intrested in rooting my phone.
Before I do that, I wanted to know 1 thing:
If I root my Note 4, would I be able to upgrade it to andriod 5 when its realsed? From what I understood, I will have to delete all of my things in order to update (if i root it).
And if im still able to update it after I root it, Would i be able to do it from my device? (Without connecting it to a computer)
And one last thing: If all of what i asked above is possible, when I update to Andriod 5, my device would stilll be rooted? or will i have to do it again?
Im sorry for my ignorance, Im new with all the andriod stuff
And sorry for my poor english, its not my native language. If you didnt understood something that i asked please tell me and I will try to explain it better.
Yes you can upgrade
You will not be able to update through device,only computer
Android 5.0 is not rootable till now,if it is available you have to re root
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RISHI RAJ said:
Yes you can upgrade
You will not be able to update through device,only computer
Android 5.0 is not rootable till now,if it is available you have to re root
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Thank you for your answer!
But you didn't answer one of my questions, if I root it, do I have to format it before I update to andriod 5? (By format it I mean deleting everything in my phone except the operation system ( in this case it's andriod 4.4.4)
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shaked6540 said:
Thank you for your answer!
But you didn't answer one of my questions, if I root it, do I have to format it before I update to andriod 5? (By format it I mean deleting everything in my phone except the operation system ( in this case it's andriod 4.4.4)
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No you don't need to format it, but the apps that require root to work will became a bloatware that you can't use until you root it again..
ar216893 said:
No you don't need to format it, but the apps that require root to work will became a bloatware that you can't use until you root it again..
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Thank you very much!
dont root your note. you will lose a lot of stuff like knox.
shaked6540 said:
Hi! I got Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (Model SM-N910C). Im intrested in rooting my phone.
Before I do that, I wanted to know 1 thing:
If I root my Note 4, would I be able to upgrade it to andriod 5 when its realsed? From what I understood, I will have to delete all of my things in order to update (if i root it).
And if im still able to update it after I root it, Would i be able to do it from my device? (Without connecting it to a computer)
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It most likely you need a PC to update (using Odin), because once you have rooted, the OTA update update won't work anymore.
And one last thing: If all of what i asked above is possible, when I update to Andriod 5, my device would stilll be rooted? or will i have to do it again?
Im sorry for my ignorance, Im new with all the andriod stuff
And sorry for my poor english, its not my native language. If you didnt understood something that i asked please tell me and I will try to explain it better.
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You will loose root after updating.
You have to root it again.
zurkx said:
dont root your note. you will lose a lot of stuff like knox.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is Knox?
vndnguyen said:
It most likely you need a PC to update (using Odin), because once you have rooted, the OTA update update won't work anymore.
You will loose root after updating.
You have to root it again.
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But I won't lose any data, right?
Thank you all for your help!
shaked6540 said:
Sorry for my ignorance, but what is Knox?
But I won't lose any data, right?
Thank you all for your help!
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The short answer:
Knox is a security environment developed for Samsung's Android devices.
Afaik, you won't lose any data.
if you dont know what it is dont root until you do. once you root you cannot unroot even if you flash a stock rom. your phone is permanently rooted and the efuse is blown.
shaked6540 said:
Sorry for my ignorance, but what is Knox?
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Knox is a flag in your device that Samsung use to track your warranty status.
If you root or install custom rom or custom kernel, you MAY trip the Knox flag. That way Samsung MAY refuse warranty for your device.
You can check the Knox flag by booting into the Download mode (aka Odin mode).
Or the easier way is using Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app, look for Knox Warranty Void.
But I won't lose any data, right?
Thank you all for your help!
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yes.
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Hello, everyone,
my note 3 runs android 4.4.2, has 0x0 (since that it has not yet been rooted) and I'd like to keep it that way.
So, my question is: is there a rooting method that will not trip my knox?
Thanks in advance for help.
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n0t3 said:
Hello, everyone,
my note 3 runs android 4.4.2, has 0x0 (since that it has not yet been rooted) and I'd like to keep it that way.
So, my question is: is there a rooting method that will not trip my knox?
Thanks in advance for help.
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There is not a way to root it without tripping KNOX, it's possible only for Jelly Bean
And downgrading is not possible either, so I'm kinda stuck for now, huh...
Well, anyway, thanks for the quick reply!
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I'm on KitKat too... I don't care about tripping KNOX, is there a guide to root the stock KitKat ROM?
Lieu10ant said:
I'm on KitKat too... I don't care about tripping KNOX, is there a guide to root the stock KitKat ROM?
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Probably atleast 10 guides. It will take less than 5 minutes to root.
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Lieu10ant said:
I'm on KitKat too... I don't care about tripping KNOX, is there a guide to root the stock KitKat ROM?
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CFautoroot.
3 mins to read, 1 min to download, less than 1 min to flash via odin.
Sent from N7105, DN3 with AGNi kernel.
I was hesitating to root or not to root, but I don't like Android without root, so I have rooted it with CFautoroot and we are both happy with tripped KNOX so I suggest to root
Hi
I used CF auto root. It works fine ..
Now, I´ve got the following status:
current binary: custom
system status: custom
know warranty void: 0x1
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I dont care about the the knox status, but I want to change the custom status to update my phone with Samsung updates. I downloaded TriangleAway v3.26 but I cant choose the option (see attachment). As I understand I can use the App to block the status but it doesnt work. And I have no idea what "System executable needed to implement workaround not found" means. Where can I find the workaround and where shall I store it on my device ?
The second message I dont understand too. I dont find another version in the play store... I think its the same version like in the board?
Maybe someone could help me
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Hi
I used CF auto root. It works fine ..
Now, I´ve got the following status:
I dont care about the the knox status, but I want to change the custom status to update my phone with Samsung updates. I downloaded TriangleAway v3.26 but I cant choose the option (see attachment). As I understand I can use the App to block the status but it doesnt work. And I have no idea what "System executable needed to implement workaround not found" means. Where can I find the workaround and where shall I store it on my device ?
The second message I dont understand too. I dont find another version in the play store... I think its the same version like in the board?
Maybe someone could help me
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Yeah, but you need to uninstall the version you have and pay for the google play version..... It is a paid app on google play store...
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Yeah, but you need to uninstall the version you have and pay for the google play version..... It is a paid app on google play store...
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And after that I can reset the modified status and install the offered Samsung updates?
And what about: "System executable needed to implement workaround not found"
fL!p said:
And after that I can reset the modified status and install the offered Samsung updates?
And what about: "System executable needed to implement workaround not found"
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You can also install xposed framework and use the cosmetic system normal mod. This will make it look "Official" in settings...
I don't know if this will allow OTA, most people just use ODIN to flash what they want - but you most definitely will loose root doing an OTA.
fL!p said:
And after that I can reset the modified status and install the offered Samsung updates?
And what about: "System executable needed to implement workaround not found"
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If the device is rooted. I would never suggest OTA updates. Odin is the way to go.
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hello guys! i want to find out a way to root easy my note 3 at 4.4 android ver.
that micro-sd permision is giving on my nerves ...i dont care about [email protected] knox..i need to root my device without factory reset or something is that possible?thanks in advance!!!
marios.blythe said:
hello guys! i want to find out a way to root easy my note 3 at 4.4 android ver.
that micro-sd permision is giving on my nerves ...i dont care about [email protected] knox..i need to root my device without factory reset or something is that possible?thanks in advance!!!
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Factory reset is not necessary to root your device, serach in XDA for guide how to root.
jdomadia said:
Factory reset is not necessary to root your device, serach in XDA for guide how to root.
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i allready found cf-auto root but i don't know how wto use it..where can i find a guide?
marios.blythe said:
i allready found cf-auto root but i don't know how wto use it..where can i find a guide?
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Search for cf auto root thread in note 3 original android development
Rosli59564 said:
Search for cf auto roo
t thread in note 3 original android development
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Thanks guys but I have 2 questions. .1st will I be able to unroot if I want it? 2nd it will delete any files do I have to do a clean install of the os? And at last can I be able to use triangle away?
marios.blythe said:
Thanks guys but I have 2 questions. .1st will I be able to unroot if I want it? 2nd it will delete any files do I have to do a clean install of the os? And at last can I be able to use triangle away?
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1. U can unroot. And in the future if u flash stock firmware, root will be gone too.
2. Rooting won't delete any files. It will just open root access and inject supersu.
3. Triangle away I never used. But u can just read its thread. If written a support for ur device, means can. BUT, triangle away won't reset ur knox status.
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Hi,
I rooted Note 3 with towelroot recently and my knox is still 0 and would like to keep it that way. Would also like to keep all my settings and apps if possible too. I haven't flashed any roms or anything like that. Only thing I've done is grant some of my apps root access and downloaded an app that required root (which since then I've uninstalled). Now however I see a new firmware update is available for my Note 3 and would like to update to it. I'm sorta new to the Android scene, so don't know where to start to do this, so would appreciate any guidance.
Is there also anything I should do while on root before I unroot?
Thanks
@XLAAX you dont need to unroot to upgrade firmware. Use odin method to upgrade it.
You will find it on sammobile
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thahim said:
@XLAAX you dont need to unroot to upgrade firmware. Use odin method to upgrade it.
You will find it on sammobile
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So what will happen when I unroot using this? Will the phone be unrooted again or will it keep root? Also will knox be tripped using this method?
XLAAX said:
So what will happen when I unroot using this? Will the phone be unrooted again or will it keep root? Also will knox be tripped using this method?
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Do you want to unroot or do you want to upgrade firmware?
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thahim said:
Do you want to unroot or do you want to upgrade firmware?
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Hmm, I was under the impression that you need to unroot your phone to upgrade the firmware. If this isnt the case, then no real need to unroot I suppose.
What about Android L? Will I need to unroot for that? (Realise you can't predict such a thing, but has there ever been a case where you needed to unroot for an android firmware?)
EDIT: Oh and for future knowledge, how should I handle OTA updates? Should I not update that way if I'm rooted?
XLAAX said:
Hmm, I was under the impression that you need to unroot your phone to upgrade the firmware. If this isnt the case, then no real need to unroot I suppose.
What about Android L? Will I need to unroot for that? (Realise you can't predict such a thing, but has there ever been a case where you needed to unroot for an android firmware?)
EDIT: Oh and for future knowledge, how should I handle OTA updates? Should I not update that way if I'm rooted?
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I dont know about towel root I used cf auto root and I upgraded to 4.4.2 after rooting.
But I am sure there is no need to unroot in any case.
Android L ia not yet been out for note 3.
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Hi gurus. first off, bought my first note 4 some days ago.. always thought the note series would be too big a phone for me.. what have i been thinking??? this is hands down the best phone i have ever had.. cant remember the last time a phone gave me this feeling..
but I am at a crossroad here.. i really REALLY miss root, but a little hesitant regarding tripping the e-fuse/knox/warranty. havent had a Samsung since the S4 was newly released.
I do not want to flash custom roms, just root stock and debloat and titanium backup, xposed, ad blocking etc..
in this regard, towelroot, stumproot is genius i think, and still able to receive OTA. but does not work on the note 4 of course.
but what happens when Lollipop arrives, seem to remember that the L would be different regarding root? should i wait to root until the Lollipop update arrives, should be here soon for our devices..
do you think there will be a workaround for the e-fuse trippin?
in general, whats your thoughts about this..?
my phone is the Snapdragon, SM-N910F.
Don't hold your breath for a root that doesn't trip Knox, and don't worry about it unless you work for a corporation that requires the use of Knox.
Chainfire had already proven root on devices with LP; I don't see any reason to wait. Being rooted doesn't often seem to be a problem regarding warranty.
Thanks for your reply rcobourn. Would one be able to receive ota with Chain fire auto root? What's the preferred rooting method when only going stock.?
Will root make Private Mode unusable?
I don't care about voiding warranty with knox 1 or 0x1, but I want knox Private mode to work on a Rooted exynos.
Any one knows if rooted knox still works or it must disabled with Titanium Backup?
SJGSM said:
Will root make Private Mode unusable?
I don't care about voiding warranty with knox 1 or 0x1, but I want knox Private mode to work on a Rooted exynos.
Any one knows if rooted knox still works or it must disabled with Titanium Backup?
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i am rooted and using private mode just try xsecurestorage by wanam and your good to go
just folder mount breaks the private mode
buljo said:
Thanks for your reply rcobourn. Would one be able to receive ota with Chain fire auto root? What's the preferred rooting method when only going stock.?
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SJGSM said:
Will root make Private Mode unusable?
I don't care about voiding warranty with knox 1 or 0x1, but I want knox Private mode to work on a Rooted exynos.
Any one knows if rooted knox still works or it must disabled with Titanium Backup?
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CF breaks OTA as I found out the hard way, it tried to auto install and soft bricked itself last night. Easy fix, just flash the latest firmware from sammobile.
As for private mode that is only broken if you use Xposed without Xsecurestorage
Can we use kies for updates? Or do we have to flash roms all the way?
buljo said:
Can we use kies for updates? Or do we have to flash roms all the way?
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Not if it's rooted. Flash using ODIN, dunno what it's like now but in the S2 days Kies was an awful piece of crap, whereas ODIN always worked perfectly.
buljo said:
Can we use kies for updates? Or do we have to flash roms all the way?
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I highly doubt Kies will work properly, although it does tell me when there is an update for my phone when rooted so it might but I personally wouldn't try it as it most likely will do the same thing as letting it install the OTA automatically and soft brick it
Fuzzi99 said:
I highly doubt Kies will work properly, although it does tell me when there is an update for my phone when rooted so it might but I personally wouldn't try it as it most likely will do the same thing as letting it install the OTA automatically and soft brick it
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Worked for me when the last update came out, I just updated via Kies while I was rooted. Everything went good.
Did you keep root while using kies?
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Did you keep root while using kies?
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I was rooted while I used kies to update, after the update the root got removed and I had to root it again with the same method I used to root it before the update.
Hello,
I have a galaxy s4 on 4.4.2 that I rooted using kingroot a while back. It is a US Cellular SCH-R970. Knox has not been tripped. Under device status it says the phone is custom. This means I cannot update to 5.0.1.
My question is, how would I return the phone to official status without 1. Tripping knox, and 2. Keeping all of my data. Also, do you know if I can root with kingroot once I get on 5.0.1.
Baseband is R970TYUFNK1.
Thank You!
Hi,
Flash a proper complete stock firmware via ODIN. Firmware for R970TYUFNK1 is R970TYUFNK1 (itself).
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krasCGQ said:
Hi,
Flash a proper complete stock firmware via ODIN. Firmware for R970TYUFNK1 is R970TYUFNK1 (itself).
Sent from my GT-I9500
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Would you happen to know where I can find a download for that? Also wouldn't flashing that delete everything?
Thanks for all the help!
BeastMode6 said:
Would you happen to know where I can find a download for that? Also wouldn't flashing that delete everything?
Thanks for all the help!
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SamMobile, Samsung Updates, or via SamFirm app. I usually rely on SamFirm.
Edit: As long as Re-partition and NAND Erase All is unticked on Odin, it should be fine.
PS Note: You can install newer firmware over your current firmware via Odin, too.
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krasCGQ said:
SamMobile, Samsung Updates, or via SamFirm app. I usually rely on SamFirm.
PS Note: You can install newer firmware over your current firmware via Odin, too.
Sent from my GT-I9500
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This won't delete anything on my phone though, right?
BeastMode6 said:
This won't delete anything on my phone though, right?
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It would be wise to backup and wipe data before flashing. Otherwise you might encounter problems.
And do not use kingoroot to root lollipop. It used to not work or cause problems. Use cf autoroot method, if your device is supported.
GDReaper said:
It would be wise to backup and wipe data before flashing. Otherwise you might encounter problems.
And do not use kingoroot to root lollipop. It used to not work or cause problems. Use cf autoroot method, if your device is supported.
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Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
BeastMode6 said:
Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
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Yes, but backup is mandatory. About Kingroot, see again previous post.
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BeastMode6 said:
Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
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Having knox triggered is just a bunch of crap from Samsung to scare you. Unless you actually use knox. Or if you are afraid from losing your warranty. Which is also crap, because, whilst reading the warranty file, I saw that it won't cover water damage, it won't cover a broken screen and a bunch of other stuff. The only thing it covers is actual hardware failure. And if the phone is new, that's pretty unlikely. Even if it does fail, Samsung has no way to see if knox has been triggered until they change your hardware and are able to boot up the phone. At that point they can't refuse to take it into warranty service anymore.
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Having knox triggered is just a bunch of crap from Samsung to scare you. Unless you actually use knox. Or if you are afraid from losing your warranty. Which is also crap, because, whilst reading the warranty file, I saw that it won't cover water damage, it won't cover a broken screen and a bunch of other stuff. The only thing it covers is actual hardware failure. And if the phone is new, that's pretty unlikely. Even if it does fail, Samsung has no way to see if knox has been triggered until they change your hardware and are able to boot up the phone. At that point they can't refuse to take it into warranty service anymore.
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Wow, that warranty is a load of ****. Also the phone is over a year old so I'd doubt it's still under warranty anyway.
What would you recommend to make a backup? I don't have fast Internet at all (300 kbps down), so I think a local backup would be more efficient.
Thanks for all the help! Have a good Christmas!
BeastMode6 said:
Wow, that warranty is a load of ****. Also the phone is over a year old so I'd doubt it's still under warranty anyway.
What would you recommend to make a backup? I don't have fast Internet at all (300 kbps down), so I think a local backup would be more efficient.
Thanks for all the help! Have a good Christmas!
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Since it is rooted I suggest titanium backup to backup apps and data.
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Since it is rooted I suggest titanium backup to backup apps and data.
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OK I flashed 5.0.1 successfully, all my data carried over. Now I need to root. Do you know where I can download the cf autoroot files for jflteusc or sch-r970 on 5.0.1?
There is a cf auto root thread in the general section. Or you could simply google "cf auto root s4".
Make sure to read the thread.
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There is a cf auto root thread in the general section. Or you could simply google "cf auto root s4".
Make sure to read the thread.
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I got it, now on 5.0.1 rooted. Would it be safe to install cwm via odin?
BeastMode6 said:
I got it, now on 5.0.1 rooted. Would it be safe to install cwm via odin?
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cwm is outdated. Use twrp. And yes, you can install it via odin or other methods.
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cwm is outdated. Use twrp. And yes, you can install it via odin or other methods.
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OK I have that installed now. I'm looking for some new roms and found that there are practically none for the sch-r970. Could I just use roms for the gt i9505 (jflte) or would this not work at all? I'm looking for a 6.0 rom.
JDCTeam AOSP has your device model on the support list. They have Lollipop and Marshmallow.
But you should be able to use other GT-I9505 roms too.
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JDCTeam AOSP has your device model on the support list. They have Lollipop and Marshmallow.
But you should be able to use other GT-I9505 roms too.
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Under their downloads section they have 2 untagged files (doesn't say GSM or cmda) and one GSM (won't work). Will one of the untagged roms work?
BeastMode6 said:
Under their downloads section they have 2 untagged files (doesn't say GSM or cmda) and one GSM (won't work). Will one of the untagged roms work?
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Marshmallow roms have been split into gsm and cmda, due to changes in the radio. You have a cmda device.
The initial build of aosp marshmallow was for both cmda and gms devices. The newest build (the december 24th build) is split into two. Gsm version has been released but cmda version needs more work.
So you will have to download the 6th december build which was unified. Or the lollipop builds.
Lollipop builds have a different thread and a different link.