Hi,
I rooted Note 3 with towelroot recently and my knox is still 0 and would like to keep it that way. Would also like to keep all my settings and apps if possible too. I haven't flashed any roms or anything like that. Only thing I've done is grant some of my apps root access and downloaded an app that required root (which since then I've uninstalled). Now however I see a new firmware update is available for my Note 3 and would like to update to it. I'm sorta new to the Android scene, so don't know where to start to do this, so would appreciate any guidance.
Is there also anything I should do while on root before I unroot?
Thanks
@XLAAX you dont need to unroot to upgrade firmware. Use odin method to upgrade it.
You will find it on sammobile
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thahim said:
@XLAAX you dont need to unroot to upgrade firmware. Use odin method to upgrade it.
You will find it on sammobile
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So what will happen when I unroot using this? Will the phone be unrooted again or will it keep root? Also will knox be tripped using this method?
XLAAX said:
So what will happen when I unroot using this? Will the phone be unrooted again or will it keep root? Also will knox be tripped using this method?
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Do you want to unroot or do you want to upgrade firmware?
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thahim said:
Do you want to unroot or do you want to upgrade firmware?
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Hmm, I was under the impression that you need to unroot your phone to upgrade the firmware. If this isnt the case, then no real need to unroot I suppose.
What about Android L? Will I need to unroot for that? (Realise you can't predict such a thing, but has there ever been a case where you needed to unroot for an android firmware?)
EDIT: Oh and for future knowledge, how should I handle OTA updates? Should I not update that way if I'm rooted?
XLAAX said:
Hmm, I was under the impression that you need to unroot your phone to upgrade the firmware. If this isnt the case, then no real need to unroot I suppose.
What about Android L? Will I need to unroot for that? (Realise you can't predict such a thing, but has there ever been a case where you needed to unroot for an android firmware?)
EDIT: Oh and for future knowledge, how should I handle OTA updates? Should I not update that way if I'm rooted?
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I dont know about towel root I used cf auto root and I upgraded to 4.4.2 after rooting.
But I am sure there is no need to unroot in any case.
Android L ia not yet been out for note 3.
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I have galaxy s4 running 4.3, i have never rooted any android phone, so do let me know is it important to backup data to root my phone, will root makes all the data on my phone vanish?
Also tell me if i root my phone will I still be getting future OTA updates?
and also tell me the easiest way to root my phone
re: rooting
thahim said:
I have galaxy s4 running 4.3, i have never rooted any android phone, so do let me know is it important to backup data to root my phone, will root makes all the data on my phone vanish?
Also tell me if i root my phone will I still be getting future OTA updates?
and also tell me the easiest way to root my phone
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Rooting your phone will not delete or touch any of your data, music, videos, photos or anything else.
There is no need to backup anything at all just for rooting purposes.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
Rooting your phone will not delete or touch any of your data, music, videos, photos or anything else.
There is no need to backup anything at all just for rooting purposes.
Good luck!
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Thanks for repling and will it effect ota updates in future? And please let me know the easiest way to root i9500 galaxy s4 international
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thahim said:
Thanks for repling and will it effect ota updates in future? And please let me know the easiest way to root i9500 galaxy s4 international
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The easiest way is to do a search and then read the results. That way you take responsibility for the outcome
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re: rooting
thahim said:
Thanks for repling and will it effect ota updates in future? And please let me know the easiest way to root i9500 galaxy s4 international
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If you root your phone you will no longer be able to get OTA updates
but you will be able to use kies for updates or simply odin flash the official
stock firmware for your phone which can be found at http://sammobile.com
Good luck!
Thanks guys ill do a search and later will root my phone
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Wanting to root my brothers phone for him...but can't find any solid details on how or if its safe for those who are already on official 4.4. He upgraded via phone OTA from 4.3...and all post I find are in reference to 4.3 rooting to 4.4 ...and since root has been accomplished prior to official being rolled out...is there a method to it for those who werent game enough to try it on a nee device???
You can root but will trip knox, so no warrenty. If thats cool check out CF-auto root method and pick the apropriet 4.4 version..
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NOZX said:
Wanting to root my brothers phone for him...but can't find any solid details on how or if its safe for those who are already on official 4.4. He upgraded via phone OTA from 4.3...and all post I find are in reference to 4.3 rooting to 4.4 ...and since root has been accomplished prior to official being rolled out...is there a method to it for those who werent game enough to try it on a nee device???
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Root is always possible. If firmware is 4.3 MJ3 & above, you are not able to have a safe rooting without tripping the KNOX. Don't worry, this trip is only for warranty. No other issue other than warranty is voided.
The easiest way to root, is always chainfire method, which is mentioned earlier ==> CF-Autoroot.
Just grab the latest file from his thread (under Note 3 original Android development). Choose a correct device for you. N9005 must use N9005, N900 must use N900, and vice versa.
Read carefully on the instructions on how to root (easy to follow and to understand).
Good luck.
Ok beauty. Thanks for your help. Not worried bout warranty. Cheers
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Just make sure reactivation lock is OFF...
I hope that you guys have an answer for me....
3 days ago i rooted my S4 I9505 with towelroot https://towelroot.com/. KNOX was not tripped.
i there any way to unroot in the same way, without tripping KNOX, to upgrade it to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
christty31 said:
I hope that you guys have an answer for me....
3 days ago i rooted my S4 I9505 with towelroot https://towelroot.com/. KNOX was not tripped.
i there any way to unroot in the same way, without tripping KNOX, to upgrade it to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
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Yeah. Download the latest firmware 4.4.2 for ur phone in Sammobile.com and flash it through ODIN. Done :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
Yeah. Download the latest firmware 4.4.2 for ur phone in Sammobile.com and flash it through ODIN. Done :highfive:
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And after that it will 4.4.2 unrooted, with the KNOX intact? No operating system or warranty affected?
christty31 said:
And after that it will 4.4.2 unrooted, with the KNOX intact? No operating system or warranty affected?
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on my i9056 i flashed 4.4.2 stock from 4.3 rooted by towelroot throught ODIN and i have KNOX intact now :good:
Official firmwares never trip knox.
It is always safe to flash the OFFICIAL firmware.
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and after 4.4.2 official will be on my I9505 can i root again without tripping KNOX or other problems?
christty31 said:
and after 4.4.2 official will be on my I9505 can i root again without tripping KNOX or other problems?
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No problems buddy.
Towelroot you phone again
But before rooting dont upgrade to knox 2.0. People cant root with towelroot after that update.
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DeepankarS said:
No problems buddy.
Towelroot you phone again
But before rooting dont upgrade to knox 2.0. People cant root with towelroot after that update.
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good
but, if I want to unroot it for different reasons, re-flash again 4.4.2 with Odin if safe?
thanks!
christty31 said:
good
but, if I want to unroot it for different reasons, re-flash again 4.4.2 with Odin if safe?
thanks!
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Why unroot again and again if you have to flash a stock rom?
Just flash a stock rom and youre unrooted
But remember. Knox 2.0 wont let you use towelroot.
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DeepankarS said:
No problems buddy.
Towelroot you phone again
But before rooting dont upgrade to knox 2.0. People cant root with towelroot after that update.
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If knox 2.0 is in 4.4.2 then how can you avoid it when updating to 4.4.2?
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If knox 2.0 is in 4.4.2 then how can you avoid it when updating to 4.4.2?
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Knox 2.0 is not in 4.4.2 it is an update that rolled out a few weeks ago.
Not sure if once in 2.0 it can be downgraded by flashing a previous 4.4.2 rom.
It has many new updates like the pattern lock and simplified method of transfer of data from our phone to the knox containers.
It looks like this now
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DeepankarS said:
Knox 2.0 is not in 4.4.2 it is an update that rolled out a few weeks ago.
Not sure if once in 2.0 it can be downgraded by flashing a previous 4.4.2 rom.
It has many new updates like the pattern lock and simplified method of transfer of data from our phone to the knox containers.
It looks like this now
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I've only updated to 4.4.2, never updated or run knox-i have the app disabled-but it's listed as being 2.0.0 in Manage Apps, with no updates to uninstall as I've not updated it., yet it's still already 2.0.
Bingley said:
I've only updated to 4.4.2, never updated or run knox-i have the app disabled-but it's listed as being 2.0.0 in Manage Apps, with no updates to uninstall as I've not updated it., yet it's still already 2.0.
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Well i call it knox 2.0 because when i had a 100mb upgrade, it stated that your phone is going to upgrade to 2.0 with a kids mode functionality.
Rest even I have never noticed the version no. Just many UI changes from knox 1.0 to 2.0.
Plus Even samsung calls it 2.0. It was stated on the samsung's website that it knew about towel root exploiting the linux kernel and it shall resolve this in an update.
Rest idk what that update was. I clearly remember samsung calling it knox 2.0 upgrade update.
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DeepankarS said:
Well i call it knox 2.0 because when i had a 100mb upgrade, it stated that your phone is going to upgrade to 2.0 with a kids mode functionality.
Rest even I have never noticed the version no. Just many UI changes from knox 1.0 to 2.0.
Plus Even samsung calls it 2.0. It was stated on the samsung's website that it knew about towel root exploiting the linux kernel and it shall resolve this in an update.
Rest idk what that update was. I clearly remember samsung calling it knox 2.0 upgrade update.
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So you had a 100mb non-4.4.2 update? I'm sure you mean knox 2.0 was in the ota for 4.4.2, which I think can be rooted. Are you sure 2.0 can't be towelrooted?
Bingley said:
So you had a 100mb non-4.4.2 update? I'm sure you mean knox 2.0 was in the ota for 4.4.2, which I think can be rooted. Are you sure 2.0 can't be towelrooted?
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Well yes. I am already on 4.4.2. Received the uodate 2 days back.
PURELY KNOX 2.0 update.
Well many people,including my sister did that upgrade and towelroot stopped rooting. And many are complaining now that towelroot has stopped working.
That is why I blame the update.
I cannot use towelroot altogether as it does not work on i9500.
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DeepankarS said:
Well yes. I am already on 4.4.2. Received the uodate 2 days back.
PURELY KNOX 2.0 update.
Well many people,including my sister did that upgrade and towelroot stopped rooting. And many are complaining now that towelroot has stopped working.
That is why I blame the update.
I cannot use towelroot altogether as it does not work on i9500.
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Ok. I can't find any update info you're talking of, especially saying knox uodatebwas 100mb was it an ota or play store update? I didn't think apps updated in such a weird way, no mention of this anyone else that I can find :/
Bingley said:
Ok. I can't find any update info you're talking of, especially saying knox uodatebwas 100mb was it an ota or play store update? I didn't think apps updated in such a weird way, no mention of this anyone else that I can find :/
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OTA update.
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s4_i9505_gets_an_update_with_kids_mode_and_knox_20-news-8585.php
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OTA update.
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s4_i9505_gets_an_update_with_kids_mode_and_knox_20-news-8585.php
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Brilliant, thanks. I've been on xxugne8 4.4.2 build date May 21st since I got this phone in the uk about 2 weeks ago but can't find it listed on sam, perhaps I just had an early update? I guess no way to root without typing knox on post-june kernels as towelroot now @google :/
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Brilliant, thanks. I've been on xxugne8 4.4.2 build date May 21st since I got this phone in the uk about 2 weeks ago but can't find it listed on sam, perhaps I just had an early update? I guess no way to root without typing knox on post-june kernels as towelroot now @google :/
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Well maybe. Because samsung was keen on stopping towelroot anyhow. They patched the linux kernels.
You can read samsungs take on towelroot on www.samsungknox.com
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DeepankarS said:
Why unroot again and again if you have to flash a stock rom?
Just flash a stock rom and youre unrooted
But remember. Knox 2.0 wont let you use towelroot.
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ok, so:
upgrade to 4.4.2 with Odin will update it without tripping KNOX, just no to upgrade KNOX to 2.0 when receive this update, and the towelroot will work.
If necessary, for warranty reasons, re-install 4.4.2 with Odin will unroot it and have stock ROM as brand new.
Correct?
Is it possible to unroot my galaxy note 4 canadian variant get it back to stock and reverse knox counter
Unroot and back to stock.... Sure.
But once knox has been tripped that's it.. Not going back
No one has cracked this yet to perform the knox counter rollback on these newer phones
Note 4 also...but n-910G
ditchqueen1952 said:
Is it possible to unroot my galaxy note 4 canadian variant get it back to stock and reverse knox counter
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Hi I like to know if you did get back to unrooted stock ROM? I alos have a rooted Note 4.4.4. I would like to get OTA 5.0.1 when it finally does come out for the sm-n910G varient. I just dont know how to get back to stock. Any help is good, & thx in advance.
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Hi I like to know if you did get back to unrooted stock ROM? I alos have a rooted Note 4.4.4. I would like to get OTA 5.0.1 when it finally does come out for the sm-n910G varient. I just dont know how to get back to stock. Any help is good, & thx in advance.
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Go to sammobile and download a firmware for you variant, use ODIN to flash it from your PC.
Ashatar said:
Go to sammobile and download a firmware for you variant, use ODIN to flash it from your PC.
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did it wipe my data? should i install all apps new?
i'm on 501 and want back to get OTA updates.
creonx said:
did it wipe my data? should i install all apps new?
i'm on 501 and want back to get OTA updates.
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I would recommend wiping your data before you flash your firmware again since you are rooted.
Oh man -,- i think it's possible with not losing my data
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I was wondering how to go about downgrading my N900v - I downloaded the Stock Kitkat Firmware and tried to flash with odin, keep getting a SW REV CHECK FAIL - [aboot] Fused 4 > Binary 1 error. Not sure what this means or what I am doing wrong. I want to go back to root, install a custom recovery, and then put a rooted Lollipop rom on. PLEASE HELP! I used the search function and no answer is clear cut. Now, I used Odin and all I am getting upon boot is: Your device didn't update successfully, use the verzon software repar assistant. Sorry for posting twice, posted in generic Note 3 thread and didn't know how to delete. Thanks in advance!
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I was wondering how to go about downgrading my N900v - I downloaded the Stock Kitkat Firmware and tried to flash with odin, keep getting a SW REV CHECK FAIL - [aboot] Fused 4 > Binary 1 error. Not sure what this means or what I am doing wrong. I want to go back to root, install a custom recovery, and then put a rooted Lollipop rom on. PLEASE HELP! I used the search function and no answer is clear cut. Now, I used Odin and all I am getting upon boot is: Your device didn't update successfully, use the verzon software repar assistant. Sorry for posting twice, posted in generic Note 3 thread and didn't know how to delete. Thanks in advance!
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If you have android 5.0 on the phone you are stuck, you can't downgrade. Try flash 5.0 with Odin again maybe you'll be lucky and phone will start working again.
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If you have android 5.0 on the phone you are stuck, you can't downgrade. Try flash 5.0 with Odin again maybe you'll be lucky and phone will start working again.
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This is incorrect. You can downgrade back to 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/general/to-4-4-4-lollipop-t3090936
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This is incorrect. You can downgrade back to 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/general/to-4-4-4-lollipop-t3090936
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This. Are you trying to flash NJ6? They're both 4.4.4 builds but NJ6 is blocked. Flash NK1. That will get you back to 4.4.4.
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Thank you. Bottom line I can't get root right?
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Thank you. Bottom line I can't get root right?
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That's correct.
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So if you are on 5.1.1, you can downgrade, but rooting is a lost cause at that point?
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This is incorrect. You can downgrade back to 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/general/to-4-4-4-lollipop-t3090936
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If this is true, then can we downgrade to 4.4.4; root and then go back up to 5.x?
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If this is true, then can we downgrade to 4.4.4; root and then go back up to 5.x?
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You can downgrade to 4.4.4, but 4.4.4 can NOT be rooted. So no...you have no way to get root for 4.4.4 or higher.
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You can downgrade to 4.4.4, but 4.4.4 can NOT be rooted. So no...you have no way to get root for 4.4.4 or higher.
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This is more locked down than an iPhone 6s Plus! (just jailbroke my wife's). I can't believe that no one has figured out how to root this phone in 5.0. I'd really like to start taking advantage of some of the great features on a rooted Note 3, and I don't care if it trips the Knox. I don't care about the warranty. Does anyone have any ideas about rooting this stock device that is on 5.0?
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This is more locked down than an iPhone 6s Plus! (just jailbroke my wife's). I can't believe that no one has figured out how to root this phone in 5.0. I'd really like to start taking advantage of some of the great features on a rooted Note 3, and I don't care if it trips the Knox. I don't care about the warranty. Does anyone have any ideas about rooting this stock device that is on 5.0?
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Of course tons of really smart people have tried rooting 4.4.4 and above. With or without tripping Knox. No one has been able to break the locked bootloader by any method. For all intents and purposes...it can't be done.
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i was on OF1 and odin stock NJ6 but ticked on nand erase
can downgrade to nk1 from of1 too
where is root for 4.4.4?