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What are benefits of CyanogenMod?

I am new to Android (been an iPhone user for years), and am loving the Nexus 4 so far. I'm rooted the phone and installed a custom kernel (franco), and I've been thinking of possibly putting a custom ROM on my device. I see a lot of people using CyanogenMod but I don't see much info on what the benefits of this mod are.
I checked out http://www.cyanogenmod.org/ but it looks like there's only a few addons that are in there (theme support, dsp equalizer). Are there other benefits of this that I'm missing?

Check out the features of the ROM. Their website isn't very informative because it isn't updated to date with what's in the ROM nowadays.
When switching to another Rom I recommend using titanium back up to back up your apps so you can restore them afterwards and keep your settings.
Some highlight features,
- battery percentage
- notification tiles are more beneficial rather than shortcuts it actually toggles them on and off
- navigation bar changes. Customizable to your liking
- quiet hours
- wake phone using volume rocker
- lock screen tweaks. Add shortcuts, show battery percentage.
Etc etc. I recommend downloading the unofficial version of cm named jellybro found in android development as it contains commits not in the official build just yet.
Just download it you won't be dosappointed. Plus in older phones, cm is faster than stock and most of the times their manufacturer hasn't updated their stock Rom to Android 4.2 where cm has. That's why it's popular because of its maintenance of the project
Note: you need to flash gapps with cm. It contains Google apps. Can't be packaged with roms, is illegal.
Flash Franco kernel as well as cm
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zephiK said:
Check out the features of the ROM. Their website isn't very informative because it isn't updated to date with what's in the ROM nowadays.
When switching to another Rom I recommend using titanium back up to back up your apps so you can restore them afterwards and keep your settings.
Some highlight features,
- battery percentage
- notification tiles are more beneficial rather than shortcuts it actually toggles them on and off
- navigation bar changes. Customizable to your liking
- quiet hours
- wake phone using volume rocker
- lock screen tweaks. Add shortcuts, show battery percentage.
Etc etc. I recommend downloading the unofficial version of cm named jellybro found in android development as it contains commits not in the official build just yet.
Just download it you won't be dosappointed. Plus in older phones, cm is faster than stock and most of the times their manufacturer hasn't updated their stock Rom to Android 4.2 where cm has. That's why it's popular because of its maintenance of the project
Note: you need to flash gapps with cm. It contains Google apps. Can't be packaged with roms, is illegal.
Flash Franco kernel as well as cm
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Awesome thanks for the information, I really appreciate it!!!

dmorand said:
Awesome thanks for the information, I really appreciate it!!!
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Anytime! Enjoy. If you have any questions or whatever, don't be afraid to reply back in this thread or pm me. Try and figure it out on your own first though, if all else fails I'm here.
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zephiK said:
Anytime! Enjoy. If you have any questions or whatever, don't be afraid to reply back in this thread or pm me. Try and figure it out on your own first though, if all else fails I'm here.
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Where can I find the Jellybro? I assume it's more risky going with this rom seeing how those commits aren't in the nightly build version? The normal nightly build has an updater in it to pull down the most recent build right? Does Jellybro have the same?
Thanks again for your help, some people on here haven't been quite as kind

dmorand said:
Where can I find the Jellybro? I assume it's more risky going with this rom seeing how those commits aren't in the nightly build version? The normal nightly build has an updater in it to pull down the most recent build right? Does Jellybro have the same?
Thanks again for your help, some people on here haven't been quite as kind
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Never mind sorry about that, I found the thread in the forum, I was in the Original Development forum which is why I couldn't find it.

dmorand said:
Where can I find the Jellybro? I assume it's more risky going with this rom seeing how those commits aren't in the nightly build version? The normal nightly build has an updater in it to pull down the most recent build right? Does Jellybro have the same?
Thanks again for your help, some people on here haven't been quite as kind
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Most people assume that it's more risky. But it really isn't, it's a very stable Rom and is pretty much what it is. It's cm + early commits aka cherry picks. These early commits are not yet approved or merged by cm but they are pending.
Jellybro does not have it. It updates every day or every couple of day, when I used my galaxy Nexus it updated everyday. It all depends on who compiles it and when he does. You have to check for it using goo manager (not sure if still supported) or by the website. I just do it from the site and follow the guy on twitter and it's posted when it's up.
The kangers don't put random early commits either, they assure its working before it's uploaded. Not saying it's 100% perfect but I'd say it's perfect all the time. Never have any problems using it for a year and more.
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zephiK said:
Most people assume that it's more risky. But it really isn't, it's a very stable Rom and is pretty much what it is. It's cm + early commits aka cherry picks. These early commits are not yet approved or merged by cm but they are pending.
Jellybro does not have it. It updates every day or every couple of day, when I used my galaxy Nexus it updated everyday. It all depends on who compiles it and when he does. You have to check for it using goo manager (not sure if still supported) or by the website. I just do it from the site and follow the guy on twitter and it's posted when it's up.
The kangers don't put random early commits either, they assure its working before it's uploaded. Not saying it's 100% perfect but I'd say it's perfect all the time. Never have any problems using it for a year and more.
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Thanks that explains it. I'm going to download it and check it out. Thanks!

dmorand said:
Thanks that explains it. I'm going to download it and check it out. Thanks!
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Enjoy

I would really recommend Cyanogenmod with faux's kernel. I would also use system tuner or faux's app to tweak the kernel settings. I've tried a lot of ROMs/kernels and this is by far the best set up for me
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Floating Multiwindows

I found this THREAD in Note 1 and VIDEO with floating multiwindows using the stock multiwindow bar as launcher. Check it out, Guys. Do you think it is possible on Note 2?
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THREAD LINK

Nice !
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So badly want that!
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This would be sweet!

Awesome
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246488
For what it's worth Have fun! Couldn't get it to work on mine, but yeah.

tuxonhtc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246488
For what it's worth Have fun! Couldn't get it to work on mine, but yeah.
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Your link shows people are working on it at least for those rooted. Now if we could get it for those that are not rooted it would be great.

donec said:
Your link shows people are working on it at least for those rooted. Now if we could get it for those that are not rooted it would be great.
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Yeah don't think that's gonna happen, unless Samsung miraculously decides to offer us it sometime (i.e. never). Why would you not root your phone though? I mean you could always triangle away and revert to stock if you're claiming warranty or something. If you need those extra goodies, rooting is a must.

tuxonhtc said:
Yeah don't think that's gonna happen, unless Samsung miraculously decides to offer us it sometime (i.e. never). Why would you not root your phone though? I mean you could always triangle away and revert to stock if you're claiming warranty or something. If you need those extra goodies, rooting is a must.
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I don't root mostly because I can't afford the possibility that the device could be bricked due to my not understanding or doing the wrong thing even though I am quite computer literate having worked on computers professionally and as a hobby since the mid 70's and have built and sold computer systems over the years.

Who is Waiting and going to use CyanogenMod?

Just wondering if you all are going to flash CM when they make it or another AOSP?
I know it will come soon especially since the Nexus 5 will have similar specs as with the 9005
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jetbruceli said:
Just wondering if you all are going to flash CM when they make it or another AOSP?
I know it will come soon especially since the Nexus 5 will have similar specs as with the 9005
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I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.

Amdathlonuk said:
I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.
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My first was the original galaxy i7500 but my cm experience was on the milestone 2 then g2x.
I really like cm when a device is no longer supported by their respective companies.
When I had the nexus 4, I used the latest cm 10.2 nightlies because to me the stock AOSP was lacking a few functions.
The note 3 has its own set of functions that I don't think we will ever see on CM.
However, would be very nice to have a dual booting system so I could flip flop between the two.
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Would be nice having on n900

fethi2 said:
Would be nice having on n900
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If the s4 has it, I am sure the note 3 900 will get it too.
One the biggest reasons for getting the 9005 was because I wanted to stick with a SOC that is easier for devs to work with.
Especially about a year from now when Sammy releases the note 5 and forgets about the note 3, we can at least update to the latest Android with CM
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me me me! pick me! xD

I usually run Paranoid Android on all my devices, but my experience with stock/rooted Note 3 so far has been fantastic, so I'm probably just going to run with things as is for the time being. Once PA releases I'll probably have to reevaluate though ;p

Amdathlonuk said:
I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.
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I kinda feel the same, I bought a few apps recently because it's not rooted. and these apps I'm happy to support because I use them on a daily baisis, like business calendar, poweramp, mx player etc. but I do find root useful for ntfs micro sdcard, especially when a file is bigger than 10GBs.
but what I really liked about a custom rom was editing minor things, having 8 icons along the screen horizontally. instead of what right now, 4? also all apps are HUGE dpi. I feel like when I load my mail. every mother fcker can read it from 5 metres away from me lol..

Ill Probably try it but wont stay with it. Lately on my s4 ive been preferring modded TW roms and will probably continue that with the N3
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Not Cyano itself, but I'm waiting for an AOSP derivate, SlimBean.
I don't want to even see Samsung's bloatware ever again.

I'm done with rooting and adding ROMs. I've rooted just about every phone I've owned, and they've never ran 100%. Something always had an issue and not running properly. Today's phone are almost perfect anyway. The Note 3 is bad ass just the way it is! If I do anything to it, it's maybe using Themer to give it a fresh look, but that's it?

elevul said:
Not Cyano itself, but I'm waiting for an AOSP derivate, SlimBean.
I don't want to even see Samsung's bloatware ever again.
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+1

I have been pretty impressed with the performance of the GN3 even after rooting. I am also using the s-pen functionality a lot more than i anticipated. I doubt there is any need to go the CM route.
A little off point, but someone mentioned they hadnt rooted yet. I had gone a week without rooting and was fine, but i had to root for tethering (havent installed an app yet though). So far, i have also included quite a bit of additional apps for the Pen Window - VERY handy.

I just need a ROM that will allow tethering.
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I will just to try it out but touch wiz has a lot of useful features that are too give to pass up. I will end up switching between the two.
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lm that guy said:
I will just to try it out but touch wiz has a lot of useful features that are too give to pass up. I will end up switching between the two.
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what are these features?
I really hope Samsung implements LG KnockOn gesture though... to save me from pressing the hardware buttons again and again

Maybe a stupid question, but why are we not seeing any AOSP roms at this time ? With other devices they appeared much faster. Dont get me wrong, no trolling on ETA. Cant wait to see this beast (snapdragon 800) run stock android

I'm just waiting to be able to root my phone without voiding its warranty due to KNOX :/

wilflare said:
what are these features?
I really hope Samsung implements LG KnockOn gesture though... to save me from pressing the hardware buttons again and again
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multi window, pen window, air view, S note to name a few. And I generally like the look of touchwiz as well.

lm that guy said:
multi window, pen window, air view, S note to name a few. And I generally like the look of touchwiz as well.
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hmm does multi-window work with all apps?
hmm I do like Air Command though.
never used/tried S Note or Scrapbooker

AOSP Rom

Was able to get a ROM built and running based on LRX21V straight from source. Just trying to get a feel on how many people would want to run AOSP. There are some bugs present such as video recording causing the camera to stop working. I think there are binaries missing that Google didn't include in the binaries that are available. Same problem happened on the Nexus 5. Didn't test it much as I just purely wanted to see if it booted.
Also there is a lack of gapps available so I won't be rushing to get anything out. Let me know what y'all think and I'll try to tackle this to get some other options out for us.
Here is the test build for those that want to have a look. This is just a test build so bugs are to be expected. Video recording does not work. Haven't tested it completely as I need a fully working device this weekend. This is for those that have free time to just nit pick and find all bugs in this. Please report back after you are done and let me know what else you may have found that is broken or not working right.
Stock Google kernel (so if you flashed the kernel image to remove encryption your phone WILL be encrypted again)
Built off 5.0.0_r7 from AOSP
Flash ROM, flash gapps and flash SU that is linked below. This will allow root access on the stock kernel.
You can also optionally flash the custom boot image after flashing the ROM, gapps and SU by rebooting to bootloader and fastboot flash boot the custom encryption kernel. That is optional. Be sure to go back in to recovery after flashing the kernel to reflash the SU to make sure it was not overwritten.
Download Rom:AFH Mirror
Download Gapps for Lollipop:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56810851#post56810851
Download latest SU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133

I'm tuned in!
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The development section is kind of depressing me right now (no offense to devs) so bring it!

the.emilio said:
Was able to get a ROM built and running based on LRX21V straight from source. Just trying to get a feel on how many people would want to run AOSP. There are some bugs present such as video recording causing the camera to stop working. I think there are binaries missing that Google didn't include in the binaries that are available. Same problem happened on the Nexus 5. Didn't test it much as I just purely wanted to see if it booted.
Also there is a lack of gapps available so I won't be rushing to get anything out. Let me know what y'all think and I'll try to tackle this to get some other options out for us.
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Any gapps should work. It can be downloaded from the nexus 5 section
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Its only been a couple days. And the phone is really scarce. Give it time

estallings15 said:
The development section is kind of depressing me right now (no offense to devs) so bring it!
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That is pretty offensive. It is a new device and isn't in the developers hand so releasing work without testing their work leads to quality problems.
I don't see you doing any development work and developers don't owe anyone anything as they do all this work as a hobby pretty much.
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zephiK said:
That is pretty offensive. It is a new device and isn't in the developers hand so releasing work without testing their work leads to quality problems.
I don't see you doing any development work and developers don't owe anyone anything as they do all this work as a hobby pretty much.
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I know the reasons behind it, which was the point of the "no offense." I wasn't whining. I was trying to help motivate and encourage OP. He, as well as others, are working on making things happen and I'm excited for it and waiting eagerly for the kernel source to drop.
You took what I said the wrong way, so step off of your soap box, zephiK.
Edit: That reminds me. If any devs need testers, PM me. I'll be happy to help the community out.

Smallsmx3 said:
Any gapps should work. It can be downloaded from the nexus 5 section
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Lol. I know this. Just came from the N5 I guess what I meant is that there isn't a complete package yet. There's a minimal yes that does work. But I prefer the full. Just lazy and hate downloading apps or pushing apps lol

the.emilio said:
Lol. I know this. Just came from the N5 I guess what I meant is that there isn't a complete package yet. There's a minimal yes that does work. But I prefer the full. Just lazy and hate downloading apps or pushing apps lol
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Ha! That's funny. does r 7 have any significant commits over our revision

Smallsmx3 said:
Ha! That's funny. does r 7 have any significant commits over our revision
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No. Minor bug fixes for the particular device it was made for but that's it. I did notice on the N5 that there was a significant "miscellaneous" battery drain on r7. Might roll back to r3 if its present since r3 is the one for us (its also the same build for the N5).

zephiK said:
That is pretty offensive. It is a new device and isn't in the developers hand so releasing work without testing their work leads to quality problems.
I don't see you doing any development work and developers don't owe anyone anything as they do all this work as a hobby pretty much.
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We are working on something [emoji6]

the.emilio said:
No. Minor bug fixes for the particular device it was made for but that's it. I did notice on the N5 that there was a significant "miscellaneous" battery drain on r7. Might roll back to r3 if its present since r3 is the one for us (its also the same build for the N5).
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Miscellaneous bug again? I wonder if they broke the same thing they already fixed, or if this is something else that is just falling into miscellaneous as well.
Thanks for the work on this!

In for the long haul! Tired of the plethora of gapps on this phone. Somehow I managed to break photos once by removing some google app... Weird.
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I uploaded the ROM for testing purposes. Please re-read the OP for more info. :good:

the.emilio said:
I uploaded the ROM for testing purposes. Please re-read the OP for more info. :good:
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Sweet, thanks.
What the Christ is this new file layout?! System.new.dat o.0
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Rauch said:
Sweet, thanks.
What the Christ is this new file layout?! System.new.dat o.0
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That's lollipop for ya..

the.emilio said:
That's lollipop for ya..
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As I wanted to attempt to pre-root and make some changes... Ugh.
Simply installing the SuperSU apk is enough for root, correct? I don't have to re-run CF... Especially since I'm not near a PC
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Rauch said:
As I wanted to attempt to pre-root and make some changes... Ugh.
Simply installing the SuperSU apk is enough for root, correct? I don't have to re-run CF... Especially since I'm not near a PC
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Yes just use the one I linked to. Be sure to flash it in the same session so you don't lose the custom recovery.

Rauch said:
As I wanted to attempt to pre-root and make some changes... Ugh.
Simply installing the SuperSU apk is enough for root, correct? I don't have to re-run CF... Especially since I'm not near a PC
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Remember its just a test so I recommend waiting until you have access to a PC. Just in case lol

Well, I bit the bullet. Only lost a few downloads.... But anyway.
Sound quality seems.... Different? Also network says its connected to LTE, but its beyond slow. Not sure why exactly.
I'm on the correct APN.
Closing apps, I hear a slight buzz/tap three tomes when hitting the home button.
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carloscibrian4 said:
Did anyone's storage decreased afterwards? My nexus says that there is only 23gb of storage despite being a 64 gb
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I have a 32gb and that's what I have.... I didn't check before.... Anyone have any idea what storage should be out of the box?
Rauch said:
Well, I bit the bullet. Only lost a few downloads.... But anyway.
Sound quality seems.... Different? Also network says its connected to LTE, but its beyond slow. Not sure why exactly.
I'm on the correct APN.
Closing apps, I hear a slight buzz/tap three tomes when hitting the home button.
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I was getting weird audio sounds at first... I don't know if it was the update when I got home that fixed it but it's been non existent since the first couple of hours I had the phone

Just switched from the m8

Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way... Swapping ROMs improve it though.
Welcome to the Note 4, I'm sure you'll love it!

Let us know how your experience goes.
I really love my Note 4. I am currently running Infamous ROM 2.8 and the performance is incredible. It blows the stock ROM out of the water.

Welcome to a real camera

I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.

keasey said:
I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.
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Go a week or more and then decide which apps you'd like to freeze or leave alone.
Should be enough time to get a feel for it and decide which apps you like.

I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Rayan said:
Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way...
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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.

Towle said:
Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.
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Oh I know that, but I meant rooting alone does not degrade the experience. As you rightfully said, the experience can be improved drastically while rooted even on stock firmware.
Cheers ?
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tommason1968 said:
I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Take a look around the Q&A and General sections. Most questions you have, already have been asked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/google-s-voice-t2910499

i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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The battery has no problem lasting all day
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I would definitely root and flash a ROM asap. Stock rom is ok but any of the TouchWiz ROM for T Mobile will flat out just feel snappier.

Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.

tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Where did you hear that the battery life isn't good?
I typically get 2.5 days per full charge with between 4.5 and 6 hours of screen on time per charge depending on if I am reading, or doing media (games, youtube).
If anything I would wait for the Note 5, but that will be a while. I'd suggest getting the Note 4 because it's quite simply a very amazing beast of a phone and then using JUMP to upgrade in 6 months if you so desire.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Roflmao lag ok
fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Battery is great I got 2 days or more with 7 to 9 hours of screen time

Android_Monsters said:
Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.
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Compared to the process of rooting a htc how difficult is it to root the note 4
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It's way easier to root the note 4:
You're in in 5.
Here are the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
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Had to do one at my parents house.
It took me 10 minutes because I was downloading a rom, at the same time, and my parents internet sucks.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Which Best Buy? From what I've seen at nearly all my local Best Buy they only have dummy phones and none of them carry t mobile phones