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About to buy (another) S4 tonight, please help!

Hey guys, well I'm back in action! After dumping my S4 a few months ago, I am getting another one tonight. Ever since I saw the 4.3 update on my gf's S4, I saw that things have smoothed out and things are the way they should be!
Long story short, I want to see if the one I'm getting can be rooted. It is on 4.2.2 and the baseband is I3373CUFCMF3. Am I good to root it? I've been out of the S4 game for a while, so I don't know. If I can root it, can I run 4.3?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

I'd try to get a MDL one so you could just flash a 4.3 custom ron
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Most, if not all current S4's will have MF3 firmware preinstalled. I doubt any store would have MDL firmware. Those devices would have had to be sitting there since early summer.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, well I'm back in action! After dumping my S4 a few months ago, I am getting another one tonight. Ever since I saw the 4.3 update on my gf's S4, I saw that things have smoothed out and things are the way they should be!
Long story short, I want to see if the one I'm getting can be rooted. It is on 4.2.2 and the baseband is I3373CUFCMF3. Am I good to root it? I've been out of the S4 game for a while, so I don't know. If I can root it, can I run 4.3?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Yes, with MF3 you can root. You can then install safestrap and do some roms.
However if you take the 4.3 update you lose the ability to safestrap and use some roms, but you should still be able to root. I am not 100% as I just kept mf3 and put a 4.2.2 rom on it.

Ok, thanks for the responses. Can I flash any ROM with Safestrap or just some? Can I flash a custom 4.3 ROM for example?
Thanks!

You cannot install anything that's not touchwiz and anything above 4.2.2
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Ok, thanks for the responses. Can I flash any ROM with Safestrap or just some? Can I flash a custom 4.3 ROM for example?
Thanks!
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Your very limited with roms using safestrap. Even then, the ones that work, might not work all the way. If you had MDL, you could use any rom if you flash loki-doki.
Just ask if they have one with MDL firmware. Doesn't hurt to ask, right?

Thanks for the responses guys! I will see if I can get a hold of a MDL phone.
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Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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No.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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Get a device that isn't as locked down as the s4 or note 3. Maybe nexus 5? Unless you can live with safestrap or just root. Which I can. If your a ROM flashaholic than stay away.
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Thanks guys, I just scored a MDL on swappa. I will be back soon to root and rom!
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Nice!
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Confused on rooting

First off sorry if I have missed something but I have been doing some reading but am slightly confused.
I am looking at a Verizon Note 3 on ebay to keep unlimited data since I just sold my Note 2 which was rooted and running a custom rom which is kinda a must for me. Where I am confused is I see tutorials on how to root the note 3 but I also see a petition to have verizon unlock the bootloader. When I hear locked bootloader I think no rooting and custom roms. So did verizon just recently lock the note 3 down like they did with the note 2 4.3 update? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Basically I just want to be able to root my Note 3 but am not worried about voiding any warranties with verizon since I'm buying it on ebay or something. Feel free to post links to this answer since I'm not opposed to reading just kinda overwhelmed right now.
Thanks for answering my stupid question and have a great weekend!!!

Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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ContractorDude said:
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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Ok so it looks like I should be able to root it no problem. Whats big deal with the locked bootloader then?
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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ContractorDude said:
Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Ahhhh ok thank you for the quick response!!!
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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ContractorDude said:
The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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Oh I don't doubt it for a second!! That's why I was confused saw plenty of custom ROMs but didn't really pay attention to tw or not. Not really an issue since I've been having crazy battery draining issues on everything I put 4.4.2 on. Haven't done my research but I'm sure it won't be long till 4.4 tw hits the note 3 anyways.
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Ya, Sprints already getting it.
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What is "locked" on the retail device is the recovery and boot partitions. They are crypto-signed and verified early in the boot sequence. Until the phone is hacked, it means it is impossible to boot a non-Samsung kernel or non-Samsung recovery. Even if you intentionally blow the Warranty flag on the phone, this behavior will not change.
So, while you can root, whatever "ROM" you want to try and use must play nice with a STOCK kernel (& ramdisk). So, no CM for example.
Also - because of "version upgrade locking", if you upgrade a stock kernel (let's say MJ7 -> MJE), you might not be able to use Nandroid restores of previous ROMs you formerly used any longer... depending on how tightly the ROM depends on kernel & ramdisk behaviors.
And one more thing - the Safestrap "psuedo-recovery" actually boots the beginning of a stock ROM (or whatever you have in the "stock slot"). One consequence of this is that you no longer have a separately bootable recovery to fix up mistakes or restore backups from. If you wedge the primary OS somehow, the consequence of that will be a loss of all data on the phone which is not backed up, and a trip to Odin to restore a pure stock firmware ... and starting all over from square 1.
(If you buy a Note 3, you might want to consider a BIG removable SD card - then you will have room for media/backups/etc that is not vulnerable to an Odin flash)
So basically, you have a limited form of rooting available.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49758703&postcount=5

[Q] Root method for NC1 update?

So before I go any further I would just like to quickly note that I have tried to do some research on this question before posting it and have came up empty handed.
Now for the question: My Samsung Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 updated to NC1 the night that the update was released and I was wondering how I could currently achieve root on NC1?
Specs:
Model: Samsung SGH-I337
Android Version: 4.4.2
Baseband: I337UCUFNC1
Currently running 100% stock and would like root.
Thanks in advance for any and all help!

Ingram0421 said:
So before I go any further I would just like to quickly note that I have tried to do some research on this question before posting it and have came up empty handed.
Now for the question: My Samsung Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 updated to NC1 the night that the update was released and I was wondering how I could currently achieve root on NC1?
Specs:
Model: Samsung SGH-I337
Android Version: 4.4.2
Baseband: I337UCUFNC1
Currently running 100% stock and would like root.
Thanks in advance for any and all help!
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The same way you root NB1. This has been asked, you proceed with the downgrade as normal. It may help to go to NB1 first and then MK2.
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Here is how to root NC1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52289782
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All noobs should take a look at the general forum before making questions other had made. There are several guides there that can help you.
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I'm not exactly sure who you're calling a "noob", but if I would like to make a new thread that someone has already asked then I will damn sure do as I please. I appreciate your link in your first reply but the word noob isn't exactly a friendly one and some people take offense to it whether or not it is intended to do so.
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Anyone know anything new about bootloader unlock?
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dpwguenther said:
Anyone know anything new about bootloader unlock?
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nope, still locked
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That blows, I thought about perpously bricking my phone , sending it to a pay service from eBay and requesting they put 4.2 on it so many times now
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Ingram0421 said:
I'm not exactly sure who you're calling a "noob", but if I would like to make a new thread that someone has already asked then I will damn sure do as I please. I appreciate your link in your first reply but the word noob isn't exactly a friendly one and some people take offense to it whether or not it is intended to do so.
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At one point we all were and called ourselves like that. What bothers is that we see the same questions on new threads over and over. A forum was design to read and search. Once you don't find your answer you post a new thread. Some moderators will suggest the same to avoid clogged our forum. That's how we should treated and care for. I don't feel it's offensive and if it is apologize to those who feel that way.
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I remember when I had my GS3 I had to flash stock 4.3 (which if I'm not mistaken still has a locked bootloader) and then I flashed a custom stock 4.1 rom and was able to flash the latest CM 11 plus a modem/bootloader combo zip from 4.3 and it worked fine. Is that even in the realm of possibilities with the GS4?
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dpwguenther said:
I remember when I had my GS3 I had to flash stock 4.3 (which if I'm not mistaken still has a locked bootloader) and then I flashed a custom stock 4.1 rom and was able to flash the latest CM 11 plus a modem/bootloader combo zip from 4.3 and it worked fine. Is that even in the realm of possibilities with the GS4?
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I had the GS3 also and it was great you could flash anything Ubuntu and more, but now AT&T tied our hands because the war it's having with Samsung we pay. Others phones like the HTC it's reported to be bootloader unlocked. You can flash cm 11 without any problem.
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Sph-l720 Not Rooting With Towel Root

My warranty just ended and i wanted to try a one click root method. I saw a lot of samsung users on youtube using towelroot so I decided to try that. I downloaded the app, the first time i clicked make it rain, it read, phone is not currently supported. In the video discription it gave a different modstring for sprint model s4's. So i tried that, and i got the same message. None of the modstrings seem to work and ive tried many other root apps but i prefer towelroot. I dont have a computer on hand to use odin and i really want to use a one click method. How far away will the next update be to fix towel root and if not any other one click apps??
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If you took the NG2 update, Towelroot won't work. That loophole is currently closed.
And don't ask when something will be updated. The devs here do this for free and have personal lives to worry about. They'll get updates out when they get updates out.

Ok man chill. Thanks for the response
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why bother with towelroot? flash twrp. flash supersu.. disable knox.. profit..

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Ok man chill. Thanks for the response
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I am chill. You're new and probably didn't realize that asking for update etas is a big no no.
bryguy9021 said:
why bother with towelroot? flash twrp. flash supersu.. disable knox.. profit..
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Because he doesn't have a computer to Odin in a custom recovery at the moment.

Sorry man i diddint realize the devs were so busy. Thanks for the insight
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Aee there any other one click apps that work with the new update???
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Rooting note 3 questions?

Hello everyone. From what I've ready, Samsung has a way of knowing when you root your phone thanks to the Knox counter. I understand people have ways around it, but frankly, I understand why Samsung does it and don't mind losing my warranty.
I do wonder this though: does the insurance cover a bricked phone from root?
Also, if I do root, can I get stock Android 5.0?
And lastly, there's so many sites that claim to know how to root a note 3, but a lot of them don't seem legit. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you!
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Anyone?
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If you rooted nc2 or NC4 Verizon won't know and you can go back to stock unrooted. Rooting your phone won't trip KNOX. If you take the 4.4.4 update it's a wrap as far as we know. If you root you won't get 5.0 unless it's a OTA probably. I know Hsbadr is working on some things but for the most part Big Red is trying to kill the Note 3. At least from a rooting and development standpoint.

Really? So there's no way I can get 5.0 custom rom?
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fatesalign said:
Really? So there's no way I can get 5.0 custom rom?
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I doubt it on this device but you never know.

It depends on how your root to not trip Knox amd some other things can trip it from what I've read even improper unroot. I cannot confirm I've never experienced this, but Samsung is who you shouldn't worry about verizon insurance is different. Samsung a is only one year verizon is paid but yes they are right they won't know. Towel root is the only way I know how to not trip knox. To sum up other posts verizon is trying to stop root of note 3 and Samsung isn't helping either. This may be as good as it gets when it comes to development for the note 3 which is still incredible imo due to the bootloader and such. As always hope this helps and shout out to all the devs and others that work on note 3 v
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