Aside from losing the waranty.
What other issue of tripping knox counter many times.
For example we already flash cwm/custom rom more than 10x or 20x on our device.
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Its only issue is that initial first time voids the warranty. Its considered to be an e-fuse so once its tripped its physically tripped. (whether there is some software way of reversing this and it isn't a real physical change I don't know). But no, there isn't any issue with flashing multiple times. I am not sure if there is a flash counter on the S5, there certainly was on the S3 but then again that didn't have an e-fuse.
The higher the flash counter the cooler you are, obviously.
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Guys got the phone 2 days ago(earlier xperia s).Want to root it.But I got the info about counter.Also I knew triangle away doesn't work.Ive got a few questions
1.I wont get official updates?
2.Is there any other way of resetting counter?
3.Ive a knox app in my phone (what does it states about bootloader)
4.Which roms can I flash(Im using 4.3 android xuemj5 with kernel 3.4.5-187500 se.infra
Thanks if anyone can solve my queries
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Plz anyone
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If you want to keep your warranty intact then do not root or flash anything. Keep it completely stock.
If you don't really care about the warranty then you can install any custom ROMs, kernels, recovery. etc
Oh and its impossible to reset the knox counter once you trigger it which voids your warranty. Even flashing stock firmwares with old bootloaders without knox while trigger the Knox flag so be very careful!
Hi so I rooted my phone and super user asked me to disable Knox so I did. But I use Knox frequently and now I can't get access it just says device not authorised. Is there away to enable it without a full reset?
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Bad news bro. You have voided the warrantly.
Check knox flag is now 0x1
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Warranty doesn't matter, second hand. I actually use knox lol but I've disabled it somehow
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bobbycarver said:
Warranty doesn't matter, second hand. I actually use knox lol but I've disabled it somehow
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By rooting your phone and assuming you ended up with Knox 0x1, you can no longer use Knox.
You can use KNOX, it just isn't classed as *secure* -- Superuser has disabled KNOX on you, you'll have to find KNOX stuff in either TiB or in Application manager and re-enable it again. If that doesn't fix, then you'll have to unroot (if you choose to re-root don't agree to freezing KNOX when prompted)
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If knox counter is triped....it will not work anymore. ..no way to reverse besides a change of main board
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Oh so once knox is tripped you can no longer use it? I thought it was just a warranty thing
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Well this is a bit of a bummer. There has to be some way to turn it back. I didn't know it couldn't be reenabled. Oh well. I don't need the warranty.
I was just wondering has anybody tried useing factory mode with the usb plug/dongle that we used on the s2 to reset custom rom counter? or tried flashing in factory mode? will this reset knox or allow custom bootloader without tripping knox. I've not seen any mention of using said usb dongle or trying it.
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garymeg said:
I was just wondering has anybody tried useing factory mode with the usb plug/dongle that we used on the s2 to reset custom rom counter? or tried flashing in factory mode? will this reset knox or allow custom bootloader without tripping knox. I've not seen any mention of using said usb dongle or trying it.
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AFAIK, all means have been tested including JIGS/Exploits via USB etc, the Note 3 doesn't carry a custom ROM counter it was replaced by KNOX which runs 0x0 for in place and 0x1 for tripped. Currently there is no known way except replacing your motherboard..
There is a JIG option on some random forum (link is around somewhere) which claims it can reset it, however this is untested as of now or at least what I am aware of.
*claims to be reseted on exynos devices only = useless
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is knox needed ?
just a quick question about knox:
I'm in the UK i have the note 3 (SM-N9005)
do i need knox what is it for ?
will my N3 update to the network update 4.4.2 even if it's tripped 0x1 ?
I had Rooted my N3 before i had seen or read anything about knox.
thanks in advance
oldyin =] :cyclops:
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*claims to be reseted on exynos devices only = useless
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Well, I would not say 100% useless if that would be applicable with no cost to all N9000 international devices - the problem is that you still need a special JTAG gizmo and special software for it - which costs more than a new Note 3
Hi !
I wanted to try the method to keep root after the NF4/NG2 update, and I get the Mobile Odin app for that.
But, while I launched the app, a message surprised me : launching Mobile Odin on my Note 3 will void my warranty ?... For now, my knox counter is at 0x0.
Is this true or is this only a misunderstanding ?
Thanks for your feedback.
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Hi !
I wanted to try the method to keep root after the NF4/NG2 update, and I get the Mobile Odin app for that.
But, while I launched the app, a message surprised me : launching Mobile Odin on my Note 3 will void my warranty ?... For now, my knox counter is at 0x0.
Is this true or is this only a misunderstanding ?
Thanks for your feedback.
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Like how the Samsung website claims the Note 3 only supports up to 64gb of external storage.
It's a precautionary method that developers use so that they don't get complaints if it doesn't work.
KNOX 0x0 with MOP was a miracle procedure discovered by normal users. But Chainfire can't warranty it because if it does trip KNOX, well...he already stated it.
i falshed both update zips and firmwares (tar.md5) back in my 0x0 times with MOP and kept 0x0.
Remember you can either use MOP or Safstrap or you will be in trouble (backscreen after boot) - if you don't know what safestrap is, ignor this ^^
Okay
So launching this app won't void my warranty if I well understand.
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Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAFE STRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
Marc
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No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
Marc
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Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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androidfine16 said:
Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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Everything I have read suggests no known avenue of exploit. I think this is a permanent and irrevocable thing that our wonderful devs have been unable to crack. Sigh.
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Of I'm not mistaking the s5 also had a locked bootloader. So will an exploit in that aid here.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Yeah but there's no point in doing that if I can't load a custom recovery afterwards. Man f**Ck Samsung and att
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