Some Doubts regarding I9500 - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guys got the phone 2 days ago(earlier xperia s).Want to root it.But I got the info about counter.Also I knew triangle away doesn't work.Ive got a few questions
1.I wont get official updates?
2.Is there any other way of resetting counter?
3.Ive a knox app in my phone (what does it states about bootloader)
4.Which roms can I flash(Im using 4.3 android xuemj5 with kernel 3.4.5-187500 se.infra
Thanks if anyone can solve my queries
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Plz anyone
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If you want to keep your warranty intact then do not root or flash anything. Keep it completely stock.
If you don't really care about the warranty then you can install any custom ROMs, kernels, recovery. etc
Oh and its impossible to reset the knox counter once you trigger it which voids your warranty. Even flashing stock firmwares with old bootloaders without knox while trigger the Knox flag so be very careful!

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[Q] How do i know my device is knox secured?

Hey Xda,
I wan't to go custom again on my phone, i went back to stock for rma. But i've updated my phone...
how do i know i have knox installed?
I've added a picture with my phone status..
Greets,
Tunes
Yep...your bootloader is secured...knox will trigger 0x1 if you root it and/or flash custom rom or mods and you loose warranty
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GNoteAnte said:
Yep...your bootloader is secured...knox will trigger 0x1 if you root it and/or flash custom rom or mods and you loose warranty
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AAh shame.
Yeah...updating to 4.3 with knox was the worst thing i've done to my phone haha
I didn't know about knox until i rooted it and triggered 0x1 :/
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Is there anyway to un-knox a phone?

Does anyone know if its possible to remove the knox bootloader from a phone that applied the update?
Why can't we just odin an older stock tar? Will that not work?
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Not currently possible to rollback the bootloader, however there are a number of "un-knox'd" ROM's available.
You have some reading to do.
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Would running an un knoxed rom trip the warranty fuse knox enables? Are there any aosp/cm un knoxed roms out that u know of?
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All aosp/cm roms are unknoxed. That has nothing to do with the bootloader. Once an S4 has been upgraded to MJA or newer software you have the knox enabled bootloader and the only way not to trip the knox warranty flag is not to root it. This flag is pretty useless and means nothing to most users. It has no affect on your phone usage or modding ability. All it does is let Samsung know that you rooted the phone if you send it in to them for warranty work. They may or may not choose to work on your phone under warranty. It doesn't affect your ability to go to Sprint and have them fix your phone. It only matters if you are going to ship your phone to Samsung to fix. If you have insurance (TEP), best buy, square trade, or any other program than you are good, Just use your damn phone and enjoy it!
Oh good to hear thanks
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Knox flag 0x1

How can I rest knox guys and binary pin plz
Would Tringal away works?
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soqrates666 said:
How can I rest knox guys and binary pin plz
Would Tringal away works?
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Nope, you can reset the status to official with Triangle Away but NOT reset the KNOX warranty void flag atm.
Someone told me just flash stock rom and everything will reset is it truth if now how can I claim warranty back plz
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soqrates666 said:
Someone told me just flash stock rom and everything will reset is it truth if now how can I claim warranty back plz
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You cannot reset the knox 0x1 flag, once tripped your warranty is gone mate
Ok tell me how can I root without trading my knox I didn't root yet but my question if there is anyway to root without flag knox
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you are already flagged, so it doesn't matter any more, choose the root which goes with your android build
I did t flaged it yet I didn't root but I want to root without flag knox is it possible
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You said Knox is already flag, so how you do not want to flag it ?
I didn't root yet Bro but I want to know how to root without flaging the knox I was to use dongol over otg and it need rooted device so I want to root my device without flaging my knox is there is anyway to do that mate
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soqrates666 said:
I didn't root yet Bro but I want to know how to root without flaging the knox I was to use dongol over otg and it need rooted device so I want to root my device without flaging my knox is there is anyway to do that mate
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If you are on 4.4.2 MJ4 or newer you cannot root without KNOX beeing tripped. Period It will remain 0x1 wether you flash once or 50 times.
Well I'm on old kitkat version
Now can I root without getting flag
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soqrates666 said:
Well I'm on old kitkat version
Now can I root without getting flag
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Where i live the N comes after the M alfabeticaly so you will get flagged.
URDLV http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850 :
What devices are supported?
Just about every Samsung device with KNOX! (Excluding Exynos based devices)
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
Is there is any way to make my 3g dongol over otg work without rooting
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gee2012 said:
Where i live the N comes after the M alfabeticaly so you will get flagged.
URDLV:
What devices are supported?
Just about every Samsung device with KNOX! (Excluding Exynos based devices)
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
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when u r flag, u r flag , and will stay flag
Man I Been telling u I'm not flaged knox yet man I didn't root yet man !!!
Was question if knox 0x1 flaged a possible way to rest it I didn't flaged my phone yet
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Yes,Root without knox is possible
Hi newbie,
I was new like you once and its daunting to read through tons of posts to root your phone.
This link here will help you with rooting,it updated all the time so you don't have to worry about outdated root methods.
http://tinyurl.com/y8ufsnp
Hope this helps
soqrates666 said:
Man I Been telling u I'm not flaged knox yet man I didn't root yet man !!!
Was question if knox 0x1 flaged a possible way to rest it I didn't flaged my phone yet
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Look here for something usefull https://www.google.com/search?q=usb...#q=usb+over+otg+without+root&safe=off&spell=1, you might have found that too if searched a bit.
U give me YouTube music like I brat lol
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But all in all, what you are asking is posted on xda and on the web a million times already.
I don't get it why do people even respond to such questions.
My advice, don't even try rooting and flashing.
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Custom ROM on official 4.3

Good day guys., I am now ready to void my knox warranty and I wanted to have a custom rom. Is it possible? I read somewhere that only the old bootloader is allowed to have custom rom. Am I stuck in this unfortunate rom?
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ChrissyCostanza said:
Good day guys., I am now ready to void my knox warranty and I wanted to have a custom rom. Is it possible? I read somewhere that only the old bootloader is allowed to have custom rom. Am I stuck in this unfortunate rom?
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There is only two ways:
1. Change conclusively Knox 0x1 and have root and custom ROM. Of course loose waranty.
2. No root no change knox 0x0 and have a stock
Yeah it's okay for me to have 0x1 knox. I just want to make sure cause I thought I read somewhere you cant flash custom rom on knox bootloader
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So last question im a little bit paranoid, is it possible to flash a custom rom given I had a knox bootloader?
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Warranty void

Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAFE STRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
Marc
Frankenscript said:
No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
Marc
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Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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androidfine16 said:
Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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Everything I have read suggests no known avenue of exploit. I think this is a permanent and irrevocable thing that our wonderful devs have been unable to crack. Sigh.
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Of I'm not mistaking the s5 also had a locked bootloader. So will an exploit in that aid here.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Yeah but there's no point in doing that if I can't load a custom recovery afterwards. Man f**Ck Samsung and att
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