question about KNOX - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was just wondering has anybody tried useing factory mode with the usb plug/dongle that we used on the s2 to reset custom rom counter? or tried flashing in factory mode? will this reset knox or allow custom bootloader without tripping knox. I've not seen any mention of using said usb dongle or trying it.
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garymeg said:
I was just wondering has anybody tried useing factory mode with the usb plug/dongle that we used on the s2 to reset custom rom counter? or tried flashing in factory mode? will this reset knox or allow custom bootloader without tripping knox. I've not seen any mention of using said usb dongle or trying it.
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AFAIK, all means have been tested including JIGS/Exploits via USB etc, the Note 3 doesn't carry a custom ROM counter it was replaced by KNOX which runs 0x0 for in place and 0x1 for tripped. Currently there is no known way except replacing your motherboard..
There is a JIG option on some random forum (link is around somewhere) which claims it can reset it, however this is untested as of now or at least what I am aware of.

*claims to be reseted on exynos devices only = useless
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is knox needed ?
just a quick question about knox:
I'm in the UK i have the note 3 (SM-N9005)
do i need knox what is it for ?
will my N3 update to the network update 4.4.2 even if it's tripped 0x1 ?
I had Rooted my N3 before i had seen or read anything about knox.
thanks in advance
oldyin =] :cyclops:

Killberty said:
*claims to be reseted on exynos devices only = useless
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Well, I would not say 100% useless if that would be applicable with no cost to all N9000 international devices - the problem is that you still need a special JTAG gizmo and special software for it - which costs more than a new Note 3

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Help on rooting my note 3 9005

Can I root my note 3 9005 not sure what the knox means and will that mess my phone up any help much greatful. Here's my phones details
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denny1970 said:
Can I root my note 3 9005 not sure what the knox means and will that mess my phone up any help much greatful. Here's my phones details
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I rooted my n9005 running 4.3 a few days a go. I just flashed cf root by odin.
I have heard it trips knox and warranty is voided.
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denny1970 said:
Can I root my note 3 9005 not sure what the knox means and will that mess my phone up any help much greatful. Here's my phones details
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Yes you can root it but you will trip knox to 0x1 from 0x0 meaning you lose warranty in some countries, the UK for certain
OK thanks for the reply s done that also mean I can no longer unroot after knox has be tripped!
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denny1970 said:
OK thanks for the reply s done that also mean I can no longer unroot after knox has be tripped!
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Correct no going back as of today ...the future who knows
Rooted for like not a bad thing is it lol
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denny1970 said:
Rooted for like not a bad thing is it lol
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I havent rooted yet amd im still on 4.3. Which is the best method to root without tripping? I just tried Kingo and it gave me a prompt about voiding warranty so i didnt go ahead. However, i was told that kingo does it fine with 4.3 and doesn't trip knox. So now i'm left conused :/
Yeah I was gonna try kings but read a bit 1st on there Facebook page they say kit kat 4.4.2 not supported! So gonna have to read up to do it manually fc-auto root looks OK but I need to know before I dive in and go ahead with it!
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denny1970 said:
Yeah I was gonna try kings but read a bit 1st on there Facebook page they say kit kat 4.4.2 not supported! So gonna have to read up to do it manually fc-auto root looks OK but I need to know before I dive in and go ahead with it!
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Just to clarify, you can unroot but you can't reset Knox warranty void to 0x0...
If you are on KK then make sure you use the LATEST cf-autoroot or you will get a soft brick... If you use ODIN 3.09 you put the cf-autoroot file in AP, if you use any lower then put the file in PDA...
Cheers don't suppose you got the fc-auto root link not sure if you can put up a link in here cheers
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Or do you no wait the latest FC - auto root?
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denny1970 said:
Or do you no wait the latest FC - auto root?
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U can get cf autoroot from his thread at note 3 original android development.
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So cf auto root by chainfire, on kitkat 4.4.2, doesnt trigger knox? in the cf root thread it says it does. Im confused!
lvnatic said:
So cf auto root by chainfire, on kitkat 4.4.2, doesnt trigger knox? in the cf root thread it says it does. Im confused!
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It will trip. No safe method in kitkat. At least yet. Dunno future
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From what people say. There is an e-fuse for the knox switch. Once you Flash, the switch goes from 0x0 to 0x1. The e-fuse apparently cannot be reset.
But there has been instances where rooting has not toggled the knox switch
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LiMz said:
From what people say. There is an e-fuse for the knox switch. Once you Flash, the switch goes from 0x0 to 0x1. The e-fuse apparently cannot be reset.
But there has been instances where rooting has not toggled the knox switch
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On newer bootloader, if I m not wrong mj3 nd above on n9005, confirm it will trip. No possibilities for not triggering knox 0x1.
I have tried on several devices.
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Knox flag 0x1

How can I rest knox guys and binary pin plz
Would Tringal away works?
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soqrates666 said:
How can I rest knox guys and binary pin plz
Would Tringal away works?
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Nope, you can reset the status to official with Triangle Away but NOT reset the KNOX warranty void flag atm.
Someone told me just flash stock rom and everything will reset is it truth if now how can I claim warranty back plz
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soqrates666 said:
Someone told me just flash stock rom and everything will reset is it truth if now how can I claim warranty back plz
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You cannot reset the knox 0x1 flag, once tripped your warranty is gone mate
Ok tell me how can I root without trading my knox I didn't root yet but my question if there is anyway to root without flag knox
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you are already flagged, so it doesn't matter any more, choose the root which goes with your android build
I did t flaged it yet I didn't root but I want to root without flag knox is it possible
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You said Knox is already flag, so how you do not want to flag it ?
I didn't root yet Bro but I want to know how to root without flaging the knox I was to use dongol over otg and it need rooted device so I want to root my device without flaging my knox is there is anyway to do that mate
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soqrates666 said:
I didn't root yet Bro but I want to know how to root without flaging the knox I was to use dongol over otg and it need rooted device so I want to root my device without flaging my knox is there is anyway to do that mate
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If you are on 4.4.2 MJ4 or newer you cannot root without KNOX beeing tripped. Period It will remain 0x1 wether you flash once or 50 times.
Well I'm on old kitkat version
Now can I root without getting flag
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soqrates666 said:
Well I'm on old kitkat version
Now can I root without getting flag
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Where i live the N comes after the M alfabeticaly so you will get flagged.
URDLV http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850 :
What devices are supported?
Just about every Samsung device with KNOX! (Excluding Exynos based devices)
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
Is there is any way to make my 3g dongol over otg work without rooting
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gee2012 said:
Where i live the N comes after the M alfabeticaly so you will get flagged.
URDLV:
What devices are supported?
Just about every Samsung device with KNOX! (Excluding Exynos based devices)
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
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when u r flag, u r flag , and will stay flag
Man I Been telling u I'm not flaged knox yet man I didn't root yet man !!!
Was question if knox 0x1 flaged a possible way to rest it I didn't flaged my phone yet
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Yes,Root without knox is possible
Hi newbie,
I was new like you once and its daunting to read through tons of posts to root your phone.
This link here will help you with rooting,it updated all the time so you don't have to worry about outdated root methods.
http://tinyurl.com/y8ufsnp
Hope this helps
soqrates666 said:
Man I Been telling u I'm not flaged knox yet man I didn't root yet man !!!
Was question if knox 0x1 flaged a possible way to rest it I didn't flaged my phone yet
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Look here for something usefull https://www.google.com/search?q=usb...#q=usb+over+otg+without+root&safe=off&spell=1, you might have found that too if searched a bit.
U give me YouTube music like I brat lol
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But all in all, what you are asking is posted on xda and on the web a million times already.
I don't get it why do people even respond to such questions.
My advice, don't even try rooting and flashing.
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[Q] Note 3 ROOTING and KNOX

Hi Guys,
I have a new Note 3 (SM-9005) and wanted a definitive answer about triggering KNOX 0x1.
Is it possible for me to root without triggering KNOX?
I am not bothered about Custom ROMS at the moment or Recoveries. Just want ROOT.
My FW\SW details are;
AP: N9005XXUFNF4
CP: N9005XXUFNF2
CSC: N9005OXAFNF4
Any help greatly appreciated.
www.Towelroot.com - but not sure if it works on NF4, worth a try tho, as it wont trip your Knox in either way
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Killberty said:
www.Towelroot.com - but not sure if it works on NF4, worth a try tho, as it wont trip your Knox in either way
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Ok will have a look at that. Thanks. I believe it is geohotz version. I want to make sure it doesn't trip Knox before I try and will update this thread if I am successful as it may help others.
RAF_SHC said:
Ok will have a look at that. Thanks. I believe it is geohotz version. I want to make sure it doesn't trip Knox before I try and will update this thread if I am successful as it may help others.
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100% no knox trip, confirmed by geohot on s5, confirmed by >me< on s4 and note 3
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I rooted my n9005 and lost knox and reflash using odin but still dont have knox access
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bouyhy said:
I rooted my n9005 and lost knox and reflash using odin but still dont have knox access
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So is Knox showing as 0x1?
Killberty said:
100% no knox trip, confirmed by geohot on s5, confirmed by >me< on s4 and note 3
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Tried it and not working i'm afraid. If I find anything useful i'll try and post.

Mobile Odin Pro, Galaxy Note 3 and Knox counter

Hi !
I wanted to try the method to keep root after the NF4/NG2 update, and I get the Mobile Odin app for that.
But, while I launched the app, a message surprised me : launching Mobile Odin on my Note 3 will void my warranty ?... For now, my knox counter is at 0x0.
Is this true or is this only a misunderstanding ?
Thanks for your feedback.
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encyclo06 said:
Hi !
I wanted to try the method to keep root after the NF4/NG2 update, and I get the Mobile Odin app for that.
But, while I launched the app, a message surprised me : launching Mobile Odin on my Note 3 will void my warranty ?... For now, my knox counter is at 0x0.
Is this true or is this only a misunderstanding ?
Thanks for your feedback.
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Like how the Samsung website claims the Note 3 only supports up to 64gb of external storage.
It's a precautionary method that developers use so that they don't get complaints if it doesn't work.
KNOX 0x0 with MOP was a miracle procedure discovered by normal users. But Chainfire can't warranty it because if it does trip KNOX, well...he already stated it.
i falshed both update zips and firmwares (tar.md5) back in my 0x0 times with MOP and kept 0x0.
Remember you can either use MOP or Safstrap or you will be in trouble (backscreen after boot) - if you don't know what safestrap is, ignor this ^^
Okay
So launching this app won't void my warranty if I well understand.
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Knox Counter Question?

Aside from losing the waranty.
What other issue of tripping knox counter many times.
For example we already flash cwm/custom rom more than 10x or 20x on our device.
**admin kindly close this thread once answered**
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Its only issue is that initial first time voids the warranty. Its considered to be an e-fuse so once its tripped its physically tripped. (whether there is some software way of reversing this and it isn't a real physical change I don't know). But no, there isn't any issue with flashing multiple times. I am not sure if there is a flash counter on the S5, there certainly was on the S3 but then again that didn't have an e-fuse.
The higher the flash counter the cooler you are, obviously.
Admin please close or delete this thread.
Thanks
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