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[Q] hltetmo vs hltecan. Also question about bootloaders.

What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:

jtl999 said:
What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
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you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now

jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know

jtl999 said:
Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
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I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.

radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
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Please try with Telus firmware please. Currently on MJ1

radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
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The harm in trying is a hardbrick.

Well yes there is that, however I am not overly fussed about it, as most HB's can be revived. I am aware of all the risks, so will be my fault 100% if I brick myself.

I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
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Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
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Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?

Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
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CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader

radicalisto said:
CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
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Sorry. Can't understand exactly. What exactly means what versions you can run with a new bootloader?

MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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radicalisto said:
MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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I know how bootloaders work. Isn't there a way to omit bootloaders from Odin tar.md5 updates? Once I/Someone figures that out I'm golden staying with my old bootloader. Currently on MJ1.

jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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hi, can you elaborate?
i always thought samsung doesn't let you downgrade to an older bootloader. but if you install CM (not samsung official updates) the bootloader doesn't get updated so you can downgrade in the future.
unless you upgrade to 4.4.2 official samsung ROM and update the bootloader, then you'll never be able to downgrade again?

jtl999 said:
Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
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No, if you want to try out kitkat i recommend you to use a cyanogenmod based 4.4 like probam, it doesn't update your bootloader and you can just downgrade back to jellybean
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Returning to stock australian 9505

Hey guys was hoping to get a little help. I am currently running foxhound 4.1 on my S4. The baseband version is I9505XXUFNA5. Its OS 4.4.2. In the process of flashing this rom according to the instructions on the dev thread said i had to flash a different bootloader and modem before flashing the rom. This process worked fine and i have been running without issue. Work has now decided that they want everyone on Android 4.3 so we can use apps they made to make our job easier so i need to go back to 4.3. I attempted this last night and when i try to flash a 4.3 rom via cwm it returns an error saying that the bootloader is the incorrect one and fails and i have to reinstall foxhound again to make the phone usable. Any one know how i go about getting back to 4.3 or where to get the correct bootloader and modem so i can flash them via odin and then install Androind 4.3? Any help would be very much appreciated.
Cheers Jeff

Nobody can downgrade from 4.4.2

WTF really?? Cant i flash 4.3 bootloader and modem and then go back to 4.3?

Artriel said:
WTF really?? Cant i flash 4.3 bootloader and modem and then go back to 4.3?
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Nope not at this stage cannot downgrade to older bootloader, sorry.
The best you can do is install a 4.3 custom rom. Try an echoe rom, version 12.1 the final bean I think should do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372286
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Throwing in the towel, I need help.

Hey all, I just acquired the SGH-I337 as an upgrade to my Galaxy S3. I can not for the life of me get a custom ROM running on it. My goal is SlimKAT because I like the ROM and have been using it on every phone since my Samsung Vibrant. Any time I'm flashing something in ODIN that has anything to do with ABOOT, it fails, soft bricks the device, and I have to reflash in ODIN all over again.
Please let me know what information I can provide to help with this. I've never had so much trouble with a phone before.

zeusakatkm said:
Hey all, I just acquired the SGH-I337 as an upgrade to my Galaxy S3. I can not for the life of me get a custom ROM running on it. My goal is SlimKAT because I like the ROM and have been using it on every phone since my Samsung Vibrant. Any time I'm flashing something in ODIN that has anything to do with ABOOT, it fails, soft bricks the device, and I have to reflash in ODIN all over again.
Please let me know what information I can provide to help with this. I've never had so much trouble with a phone before.
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Please tell us the firmware of your phone (baseband, modem, etc..)
I337 has locked bootloader if your firmware is MF3 and above (MK2, NB1, NC1). You have to use the safestrap as a recovery if you want to flash the custom roms. If you want to flash SlimKAT you have to the SlimKAT safestrap version if they have one.

If he had to use Safestrap he can't use Slimkat as it's AOSP and he can't change the kernel. Chances are if he was getting issues flashing aboot then he's on a newer version. Confirm it in the about phone section of the settings though.
Sent from my SGH-I337 running GPE

I believe when I got the phone, it was updated all the way. Although I'm not entirely sure what the latest firmware is. I tried using Odin to go back, which worked sort of
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zeusakatkm said:
I believe when I got the phone, it was updated all the way. Although I'm not entirely sure what the latest firmware is. I tried using Odin to go back, which worked sort of
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You can't go back to older bootloaders ever. Sounds like you are updated to something that you can't flash custom anything to. So safestrap is the only way to go with modded touchwiz based roms.
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drock212 said:
You can't go back to older bootloaders ever. Sounds like you are updated to something that you can't flash custom anything to. So safestrap is the only way to go with modded touchwiz based roms.
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I was able to successfully unbrick the phone by using Odin to get it to MK2, although Wifi didn't work. Now I'm trying to get it back to the latest firmware so that I can sell it.
UPDATE!
Phone had been successfully reflashed to firmware NB1, with everything seemingly working. This phone seems so much more complicated than the S3 was, thanks locked bootloader.

zeusakatkm said:
I was able to successfully unbrick the phone by using Odin to get it to MK2, although Wifi didn't work. Now I'm trying to get it back to the latest firmware so that I can sell it.
UPDATE!
Phone had been successfully reflashed to firmware NB1, with everything seemingly working. This phone seems so much more complicated than the S3 was, thanks locked bootloader.
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use this to get to the NB1 firmware then take the NC1 OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674223

shamelin73 said:
use this to get to the NB1 firmware then take the NC1 OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674223
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Does it matter if I use the rootable version?

I would use the non root one then let phone take the NC1 OTA update.
That shod give you a clean slate to sell the phone or you can root NC1 with towelroot
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I've already flashed the stock one, but it says there is no software update available

I've already flashed the stock one, but it says there is no software update available
UPDATE!
Success! I am successfully running this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026

[REQUEST]I9505 4.2.2 custom rom bootloader modified for downgrade from 4.4.2

Hii all, i have a I9505 where i must go back from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2. I know this is no simple cause bootloader is locked but i listen someone have modified the stock rom for fix the bootloader problem. Someone have this rom allredy cooked? I hope you can solve this

I would need this hack too. There is a mayor sound problem with bluetototh on 4.3 and 4.4.2.
On 4.2.2 there was no problem, so will be very good to possible downgrade
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maybe if we are more people asking the same thing someone will care us

This will never happen. No developer is interested in downgrading their firmware to 4.2.2.
What you could try is to find an old custom 4.2.2. rom and flash that on your phone. Maybe it works and maybe it doesn't.

I found old 4.2.2 but the wifi isnt working. I am noob in modem versions
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46rossi46 said:
I found old 4.2.2 but the wifi isnt working. I am noob in modem versions
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Try flashing the KT-SGS4 kernel kernel and let me know if that fixes the WiFi.

Thanks for reply. Will test tomorrow and let you know the info.
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46rossi46 said:
I found old 4.2.2 but the wifi isnt working. I am noob in modem versions
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you downgraded to stock 4.2.2? Cause i get the bootloader error in odin everytime, i can only downgrade via the Aroma revolution HD custom rom by phyl recovery but when i check the firmware version it show me again the 4.4.2 version.

oh'neill said:
you downgraded to stock 4.2.2? Cause i get the bootloader error in odin everytime, i can only downgrade via the Aroma revolution HD custom rom by phyl recovery but when i check the firmware version it show me again the 4.4.2 version.
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You can't downgrade stock 4.2.2. You can only try to downgrade with a custom rom.

Lennyz1988 said:
You can't downgrade stock 4.2.2. You can only try to downgrade with a custom rom.
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right but modem-firmware version will remain that of 4.4 the same when downgrade to 4.2

Hi.
Finally managed to test. I installed prerooted stock 4.2.2 via custom recovery. Then installed mobile odin and via this installed official stock 4.2.2. After that installed kernel link from upper posts and wifi (and everything else) works perfect. The only thing i need to do is reset counter with triangle away. It does not restart counter. It goes ok with reboot and confirm resetting, but when i check the counter still persist custom binary. If anyone can suggest me what to it would be perfect.
Later tonight i will post links which firmwares i installed.

sm900l kitkat rom on lollipop bootloader

I am having trouble finding a kitkat custom rom for korean note smn900L that works with the lollipop bootloader. Please give me the link of such a rom or its name. Will appreciate your help.....

munirshah77 said:
I am having trouble finding a kitkat custom rom for korean note smn900L that works with the lollipop bootloader. Please give me the link of such a rom or its name. Will appreciate your help.....
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Why not downgrade to KitKat boot loader?
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jisoo said:
Why not downgrade to KitKat boot loader?
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Lollipop roms are unstable with kitkat bootloader. When you restore the backup with twrp they don't boot first time. I want to use note 5 rom and switch to kitkat when gps is required using twrp. So, I require a kitkat custom rom working with lollipop bootloader